#brad kern

[nerds-yearbook]

The last episode of Brisco County Jr. aired on May 20, 1994. The series ran for 1 season of 27 episodes. After faking their deaths with the assistance of Professor Albert Wickwire (John Astin), Brisco County Jr. (Bruce Campbell) and Lord Bowler (Julious Carry) sought to clear their names and expose the plans of General Quarry (Michael Fairman). The episode also featured the very Elvis like Sheriff Aaron Viva (Gary Hudson) and a posse played by ex-NFL players (Terry Bradshaw, Ken Norton Jr, Jim Harbaugh, and Victor Rivers). ("High Treason Pt 2" The Adventures of Brisco County Jr., TV Event)

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 2002 Charmed S4 finale Kern interview

"I am very tired," says "Charmed" executive producer Brad Kern. "I masochistically wrote and directed the season finale. I don't know what I was thinking. I'm actually in the editing room right now, looking at it. We're almost there." The Thursday-night drama about the Halliwell sisters, good witches in San Francisco, has been in a rebuilding phase all year. Last season's finale set up the death of eldest sibling Prue, played by Shannen Doherty, who left the show. To fill the gap, Kern introduced indie-film actress Rose McGowan as Paige, the long-lost half-sister of surviving witches Piper and Phoebe (Holly Marie Combs, Alyssa Milano).

Much of the season focused on the integration of Paige into her new family -- and her efforts to cope with her newfound magical powers -- along with the romantic and supernatural complications of Phoebe and her half-demon lover, Cole (McMahon). At the same time, Piper has been dealing with the travails of married life with Leo (Brian Krause), the sisters' "Whitelighter," or supernatural guide. Despite all the ups and downs, Kern promises the family remains intact through the final episode. "I think it's safe to say that this season ends on a positive note," he says. "I think we owe that to the fans. It was pretty dark last year, so all the sisters survive this year." Near as Kern can tell, the audience likes the new addition. "The audience seems to be reacting favorably to Paige. I feel like, with all the darkness we've had to deal with through the middle and end of this season, with the Cole-Phoebe saga, Rose's wacky, fun, bright-light personality helps keep the show in balance." "I've been very happy with her. I think she's integrated very well with Alyssa and Holly, both on and off the set." Off-camera, McGowan had to adjust to the demands of series television, including working more hours per day for more months out of the year. "She was limping and spewing oil and crawling last November," Kern says. "She and I had a long conversation when we hired her. I told her it's a marathon, not a sprint, and that's the biggest difference." "I was a little concerned about her in November, because she was exhausted, beat. But she found a way to figure it out. I think one of the reasons why her performance has improved steadily each and every episode is because of her pacing herself emotionally and physically."

"She ends the season no more tired or exhausted than the other two girls, so she's done a miraculous job." As far as the Cole-Phoebe romance goes, the witch and the demon have faced almost every kind of natural and supernatural challenge over the course of the season, including facing down (or giving in to) ultimate evil. "We've honored the Cole-Phoebe love story," Kern says. "Our mantra is always the same -- no matter what happens between the two of them or separately, their love shines through everything. Love, we hope, will conquer all, and that's that we've held true to."

"I'm a big romantic. The Cole-Phoebe story is one of my favorite parts of the show. It's a tragic love story, but love stories are. It's sad that he's got this evil DNA that keeps him from being able to shed it completely to fully realize and have a normal love life with Phoebe, but that's the tragedy."

"He loves her, and she loves him, and they keep trying to find a way, and they will keep trying to find a way. They'll just have to be a different way."

Despite the big wedding episode, don't expect happily ever afters. "You can't stay married to a demon for very long," Kern says. "There will be a parting of the ways. That doesn't mean that they love each other any less, and that's the tragedy."

"As we move toward the end of the season, Phoebe will have tried it every way possible. She will have tried it with him not having [demon] powers, tried it with him having powers, tried it on the good side, and tried it on the dark side. There won't be another way to try it. She's going to have to move on with her life, and that means without Cole."

"Cole's going to have other ideas about that."

As to whether this means supernatural divorce proceedings, Kern says, "Without giving too much away, Cole won't be coming from that place next year, but that's where the surprise will be. He will be coming from a different place, a new place. There's good, there's evil and then there's a third way."

After last year's cliffhanger finale, Kern decided to call on an old friend for a little help in getting through this year's closer. As a former supervising producer on the short-lived FOX cult series "The Adventures of Brisco County Jr." he turned to that show's star -- also the star of the "Evil Dead" feature films -- to play an FBI agent in the May 16 episode.

"I called Bruce Campbell up to guest-star in the episode I wrote and directed. He's great. Bruce rocks. We're going to let him direct an episode next year as well. Alyssa and he did a movie together several years ago, so they knew each other. It was just a riot on the set. We all had a lot of fun."

Regarding next year, Kern says, "With Paige having been fully embraced by her sisters, and with a whole year of being a witch under her belt, and with Cole and Phoebe's relationship being somewhat resolved, [and now that] Piper and Leo have something to look forward to, we look at next year as a rebirth."

"Though there are some looming questions and looming evils, I really wanted to end the season on a positive note. It was time to get back to the light and use that as a springboard for next year." https://www.antoniogenna.net/streghe/stampa/estera/zap2it-s4.htm

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To be completely honest I feel the writers biggest mistake with Phoebe was the whole Cole storyline. From there it just got from bad to worse. Seasons 1 and 2 were the best of the best for her.

i mean this is kinda true i feel like i want to argue that they kept phoebe authentic at the start of their relationship i just don't even know if that's true. like phoebe fell weirdly in love with cole weirdly quick which like can honor her go gettem side but the time in which she became hopelessly in love with him really would not make any sense for season 1-2 phoebe. and it's weird bc they're kind of the charmed it couple!! like they are kind of the romance of the show if you watched the show sure piper and leo but every regular joe who just tuned in when their cousins were watching it just remember alyssa milano and her sexy demon boyfriend. and i think that's why i can kind of vaguely like the concept of phole while also honestly not really caring about phole. because the writing on the show? was a flop. why is she so in love with him okay she's faking his death sure okay now he's human and really whiny and now he's the source of all evil great now she's a bridezilla and he's a gaslighter but no he's not it's the source but he's the source but no he's not now phoebe's queen of hell now he's dead now he's back now they've divorced and now he's crazy. boo. but the concepts??? The Concepts?? delicious, actually. I Should Stab You Through The Heart But I Can't? eats. and yet misogyny would not let us see the true glory that could have been because what phoebe was was not the kind of girl who was allowed to be at the center of romance plots. no, if you were a fun carefree spirit, you were allowed to have flings, as a punchline. you don't get to be a love interest until you stop being a slut. like i feel like a lot of phoebe's quirkiness and honestly, her edge, went away whenever there were defining cole scenes because they were trying to push her into this Romance Protagonist role where's she's awkward and clumsy around her love interest and she falls in love with him immediately and she also really doesn't get any one episode love interest plots the whole time she's with cole. let's recall bane was introduced while in the jack era. and phoebe was fun, cool, sexy! she could have totally gotten a bane. but New Phoebe was different. was this coherent at all?

[darklighters]

this mermaid outfit. brad kern is not seeing the kingdom of heaven

[buckybarnesss]

Getting to Know You

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Three ships: Sterek (Teen Wolf), RebelCaptain (Star Wars), Stucky (MCU)

First Ship: Piper/Leo from Charmed. I was in middle school and I had investment. I never forgave Brad Kern for him breaking them up at the end of s5 and for putting Leo on ice in s8 (season 8 was a mistake).

Last Song: Colder Weather by Zac Brown Band

Last Movie: I don't really watch movies very often so I think it's Rogue One from a few months ago.

Currently Reading: The Dawn of Yangchen

Currently Watching: Teen Wolf, always and Ashoka.

The Last Thing I Wrote: Working slowly on a Paige and Stiles post but I'm deep in Baldur's Gate so eventually I'll get there.

low key tagging: @lunapascal @youhavereachedtheendofpie @sterek-unhinged @eevylynn @staticwaffles @jynersq

[zalrb]

I really HATE Phoebe. And man do I hate her more with each season. I often wonder how this show would’ve turned out if Alyssa Milano (and Brad Kern tbh) was the one who left. I really love the growth Piper had and how she adapted to being the eldest, but I’m really curious how a Prue Piper Paige P3 would’ve been. What would’ve become of Cole? (Tbh he probably would’ve gotten a better arc without Phoebe). How would Prue react to a long lost younger half-sister? Would Piper be more accepting of Paige in this timeline while Prue is the aloof angry one? What do you think?

I definitely think Paige and Prue would clash because they have the same qualities but it would also be wrapped up in Phoebe, like I could absolutely see a scene where Paige takes the book of shadows and causes the havoc with it and Prue getting on her case and being like, "How could you be so irresponsible, Phoebe??" and then realizing what she's done and then there's tension and awkwardness and grief around that and either Leo or Piper telling her that Paige doesn't remind her of Phoebe, she reminds her of herself. I could also see them getting close later on because again, they have the same qualities and the same desire to learn as much about magic as they can and protecting innocents.

I think Piper could still act as the bridge while also dealing with the fact that it's a new sister she has to do this for and I think Phoebe's death could've still had a similar influence on her development as Prue's in that I could see her being the quiet strength, keeping Prue together and also being there for Paige.

Cole's storyline is conceptually interesting, like trying so hard to be good and trying to fight the forces that make him evil and it could be interesting navigating that without the Phoebe's obsession.

[bramblewatchescharmed]

The thing that gets me about male Charmed fans pushing for a male version of the Charmed Ones is that, AFAIK, there wasn't as much of an obsession with the idea until Joey Falco came out on social media with his plans for a hypothetical fifth season of Charmed (2018) that would have introduced a "triquetra-verse" where one universe was that of the Halliwells', the second was the Vera/Vaughn/Dansos' universe, and the third was for a universe where the Charmed Ones were male witches . . . only they would be college frat dudebros and exist solely to prove Falco's point that men can't handle magic.

(Weird take, considering the reboot he was a writer on since season 1 and then showrunner for season 4 went out of its way to show that male witches don't exist in its universe, but okay. The only male magic users in the reboot are Whitelighters, demons, and whatever the hell Jordan is by the end of the show with his healing ability.)

Plus, if people are that desperate for male!Charmed Ones:

The original series already had this concept with the Rowe coven of warlocks, with each generation of the Rowe line becoming stronger and stronger, culminating in the arrival of three brothers who would inherit an evil version of the Charmed Ones' Power of Three.

Season 5 under Brad Kern changed the sex of Piper's unborn child from a daughter to a son, and to top this all off, Wyatt was born on Imbolc (a Wiccan Sabbat) + was the never-before-mentioned prophesized Twice-Blessed Child with super-powerful magic potentially greater than that of the Charmed Ones. To make things worse, Season 6 reveals that he eventually inherits Excalibur and is basically the next King Arthur.

Fanboys wanting male Charmed Ones, to me, completely undermines and misses the whole point of why the original series (and even the 2018 reboot) has the Charmed Ones being female, and why the 1998 series based its witchcraft in Wicca.

Charmed (1998) was created by Constance M. Burge, who based the lead characters of Prue, Piper, and Phoebe on herself and her two sisters. The Craft came out two years earlier in 1996 & Practical Magic was also released in 1998: Hollywood riding on the sudden wave of popularity of Wicca in the United States now that the Satanic Panic from the previous decade was over. Teenage girls and young women were very much into exploring witchcraft / Wicca as a counterculture to the dominant mainstream religion/culture of Christianity.

Through using magic and witchcraft as an allegory, Charmed was able to explore real-life issues women face through its female leads: sexual harassment, work-life balance, mistreatment in the workplace, stalking, kidnapping, domestic violence, murder, religious & gender discrimination. It didn't shy away from the fact that women can, in fact, be abusers, murderers, and sexual predators. It also was not afraid of its female leads showing sexual interest in men and pursuing their desire on their terms, something not even Buffy the Vampire Slayer did: Buffy was punished by the narrative for having consensual sex with her vampire boyfriend Angel by him losing his soul and becoming Angelus.

All this, while having powerful female leads, and still including male characters who are powerful in their own right: Leo Wyatt, Cole Turner, Darryl Morris, Andy Trudeau, Victor Bennett, Sam Wilder. Charmed (1998) has its heroines being the most powerful good witches on Earth, saving Innocents and helping other witches, while allowing for the existence of male witches (in fact, it's stated in the pilot that all warlocks were once good witches who killed another witch to steal his/her power, making Jeremy, Rex, Nicholas, and all the other male warlocks seen on-screen former male witches--at least, those who became warlocks by killing other witches to steal their powers). The first male witch explicitly identified as such that we meet is Max, a thirteen-year-old boy who inherited his power of psychokinesis from his witch mother. (Max, his father, and his mother are all Black --- this is something not even the 2018 reboot did, by the way, despite two-thirds of that show's heroines being Afro-Latina.)

I could do without a male version of the Charmed Ones, because, frankly, men are not lacking in that sort of representation in other media: John Constantine, Doctor Strange, Tony Stark/Iron Man, Marvel Comics' take on Thor and Loki. Powerful male characters with superpowers (supernatural or scientific) are a dime a dozen. The Charmed Ones themselves are undermined in the later seasons with the introduction of Wyatt, whom one of the Whitelighter Elders conspires to kill in season 6 because they are so scared of his power level: that it's too much for one person to have. More, that he's the son of a Charmed One and a Whitelighter born on a Wiccan Sabbat, and the Warren line of witches was destined to become more powerful. This is also after Brad Kern, a straight cisgender man, took over the position of showrunner and executive producer from Constance M. Burge, the woman who created the series.

Charmed does not need a male version of the Charmed Ones, and fanboys pushing for it after coming into a female-led, female-created show, in a fandom primarily dominated by women and LGBTQ+ people (both, even!) have missed the point entirely.

[dxsturbia]

You’re not following Brad Kern they absolutely knocked that shit out of the park and you can’t touch it unless you take it all the way there you don’t have us

That’s the bottom line cult mentality or not

You don’t have the audience so maybe your network should listen to the original players

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Charmed drama Mega-Post

Mid 2000: Per Jason Priestley

Shannen talks Charmed and the joy she gets from working with Holly/Alyssa:

2001:

2.6.01 - Wanda at E!Online reports that there is definitely something a-brewin' regarding the rumors about Alyssa Milano leaving the show. A source close to the set has told her that there is some not-so-charming tension between Alyssa and her onscreen sibs. Apparently it's stemming from jealousy over better storylines and Shannen's more expensive wardrobe, which is full of Chloe and Versace and has created a few budget problems. Link

2.28.01 - E! Online's Wanda reports that things are getting really ugly on the set of "Charmed." Doherty acts like a primadonna all the time, demanding the best clothes and to be in the middle of all the publicity shots, and Milano is sick of it and threatening to leave. Meanwhile, Combs has managed to pretty much stay out of it.

5.10.01 - This week's Soap Opera Weekly interviews Executive Producer Brad Kern in an effort to confirm the rumors behind Alyssa's said departure from the series in her on-the-set battles with co-star Shannen Doherty. "Nothing I've been told from the people that I work for indicates whatsoever that anybody's leaving the show," Kern says of the rumor that Milano wants off and that her character will be killed. "Alyssa and Shannen are professionals. Are they best friends? No. Do they have to be? No. Do they work well together? Yeah. They're sisters in character only. They come in and do their job well. That's all that matters to us."

TVGO: After all the rumors about why you leftCharmed— including backstage feuding with covenmateAlyssa Milano— would you like to take this chance to clarify things for the record? Doherty: You know, I don't really want to be given the opportunity to clear the record. I have absolutely nothing to say. Details magazine will be out in August — that's probably the most honest interview that you'll ever read with me. I picked one magazine to tell the true story in and... if somebody wants to read it, then great. My opinion is, it really doesn't matter. I moved on, they moved on and who cares? You know, everything gets so blown out of proportion by the press that after awhile, you just gotta bury your head in the sand and go, 'I'm done talkin' about it.' TVGO: Any parting advice for your replacement, Rose McGowan? Doherty: [grinning mischievously] No, I think Rose will do a fine job, actually. I think Rose can hold her own and she's very sexy and beautiful — and I think it's actually going to make for a very interesting show, to be honest with you. I wish them all the luck.

 "I think my passion for my work was too overwhelming," says Doherty of the fur-fly that became the Charmed set. Doherty claims the issue was one colleague's work ethic. "I mean, what do we do?" she continues. "Say a few lines, sit in our trailers, and get paid a fortune. That's really rough. And yet there was a person there that bitched about her job, day in, day out." According to Doherty, a "mediator" was brought in to diffuse all the poisonous estrogen. To this diplomat she said, "Are you supposed to be my shrink? Because I've already got one." Exchanges like these apparently so riled Milano, Doherty says, that the comely newcomer announced that she would not return to the show if Doherty stayed on. Doherty insists that she was the more politic star; to settle things, she took the matter up with the serge suits at Paramount, threatening to quit unless "changes" were made, though she says she wanted Milano to stay. "I would never wish another actor out of a job," she adds. "I think it's terrible karma." (Milano's reps did not return phone calls.) Six months later, at the end of the season, came a frilly pink slip. Though Doherty claims that she actually wanted to leave the show, she remains bitter that she's yet to hear from Spelling and that no one sat down with her to explain what happened. "You know what?" she says. "The lack of appreciation he's showing for me as a human being and as an actor is overwhelming." (Spelling's office issued a terse "No comment.") Others believe Doherty has her charms. "I worked with her for three years," says Charmed witch No.3, Holly Marie Combs. "I don't think she's difficult at all."

But trouble was undeniably brewing between Doherty and Milano by the time production started on the third season last summer. The fawning quotes to the press had stopped, as had the costars' time together away from the set. As Milano puts it, "I wasn't going to call [Shannen] on the weekend to go hand out." Rumors quickly swirled that Doherty was resentful of Milano's growing popularity, which had translated into several endorsement deals, including one with MCI. But those close to the situation claim it was more complicated than that. "There were no angels," Combs says. "We all had our bad days. We all [got] stressed out."

That's hardly surprising, says executive producer Kern. "People on a TV set work together 12 to 14 hours a day, five days a week. Rarely have I seen cast members stay, or even become, best friends." Adding to the friction, says Combs, was the stars' growing frustration with the show's direction. "We were in [a] rut, where we felt like we were doing the same episodes over and over again," she says. Doherty, in particular, "wanted to make the show bigger and better and stretch her boundaries," says Combs, who has been friends with the actress for eight years, and still speaks frequently with her. "I'd see her in the morning and she'd be like, 'OK, how are we going to fix this scene?' She was really dedicated and she didn't have a lot of patience for anyone [she felt] wasn't."

Whatever broke the spell, "we definitely didn't get along," admits Milano. "Shannen and I are very different people, and I think it's almost like a roommate. If you spend that much time with someone and there are differences anyway, you're not always going to get along.

Both Milano and Combs deny tabloid reports that Doherty would only speak to them when the cameras were rolling. But Milano acknowledges that she and her former costar could get downright witchy: "There were times when I'd come in and say 'Good morning, Shannen,' and she didn't say anything to me. And there wer times when she'd come in and say 'Good morning, Ayssa,' and I wouldn't say anything to her."

"The problems we had weren't things some big company mediator could fix," Combs adds quietly. "They needed to be fixed between us [by] going into [each other's] trailers and saying, 'All right, I don't like it when you do this.' Or 'I didn't like it when you said this.'"

That apparently never happened. Doherty has contended that Milano eventually got fed up and issued producers an ultimatum--either Doherty walked or she would--but Milano insists that isn't truel "I never even thought about doing that," she says. "I couldn't sleep knowing I backed out of something I'd committed to."

Doherty's eventual dismissal, then, came as a surprise. And the form Combs says it took--a phone call to Doherty's lawyer after the embattled actress had flown to Winnipeg, Canada, to start shooting Another Day, USA's upcoming Francis Ford Coppola TV-movie--still clearly angers her. "How do you go from directing the season finale to being [given] a pink slip over the phone, when [you're] in another country, at eight at night?" Combs says. "it was really a tacky way to go about it.

While no one's officially saying why doherty was ultimately cut loose, a series insider says, "It eventually became clear that [either Doherty or Milano] had to go." And Doherty may have been the safer choice, according to Stacey Lynn Koerner, an industry analyst with Initiative Media: "Alyssa is just as popular, if no more so, than Shannen. And when Shannen left 90210, the series did just fine."

While answering questions at the TCA press gathering in Los Angeles, a number of WB's own addressed what happened this last year on CHARMED regarding Shannen Doherty's exit. The network's Jordan Levin spoke of the matter, saying, "We knew last year that there were some decisions that probably had to be made in the best interest of Aaron Spelling and his company, our company and Shannen. And everybody came to the decision that they felt was mutually beneficial for all parties involved." When asked if the season finale was geared crafted in order to set up the entrance of a replacement for Doherty, Levin says, "We had an idea that we wanted to give ourselves some flexibility." More specifically regarding the addition of Rose McGowan to the cast, Levin adds, "There's a history within the mythology that there could be another sister because of the Lighter. We're still sort of hammering that out, and we haven't heard the full pitch yet and how that's going to work. But we're looking to bring in someone who could provide some conflict within the group and someone who could bring a younger audience into the show. We feel like Rose does that for us."   

Early/Mid 2001

Alyssa claims that Shannen is out to destroy to her and it caused her to gain weight. Upon Shannens termination, Alyssa secures a substantial raise for S4

”I think it’s hard when you put…[long pause]…two very different people together. I’m very laid-back and passive. I have my Buddha,” Milano says, gesturing to a small shrine at the back of her trailer. ”I come in here and meditate. [Shannen’s] got a lot of energy, she’s very headstrong, she wants to get the job done…. I think it’s unfortunate that she left, and that she needed to bad-mouth everyone involved and the audience,” continues Milano, alluding to the former 90210 star’s recent dismissal of Charmed as ”a show for 12-year-olds.” (Doherty declined to comment for this story.) ”She sounds really angry. I just hope I didn’t contribute to that anger.”Shannen’s not the only one who’s miffed. ”It was done very poorly, in my opinion,” says Holly Marie Combs (Piper) of the producers’ postseason decision to allow Doherty to leave the coven. ”We should have had an opportunity to have her character, Prue, make a graceful exit and have our story writers properly plan for that.” Instead, writers were compelled to turn last season’s standard-issue cliff-hanger — Prue and Piper get thrown through a wall by a cranky demon — into a makeshift tragic send-off. ”Now,” adds Combs, ”we’re scrambling to explain why I live and she doesn’t.”

That stuff's hard to wash out. You're even more famous for those MCI commercials. Oh, yeah. Little kids only know me from those spots. They don't know from Who's the Boss? and aren't allowed to watch Charmed. It's a great night job, especially if Charmed doesn't last. Speaking of which... Shannen Doherty? You know, if you remember the way Shannen left Beverly Hills, 90210, it's almost exactly the way it happened on Charmed. She left for personal reasons, then it started coming out that she didn;t get along with the other cast members. It seemed she was so angry and upset over leaving another hit show that she had to lash out at me. Suddenly it's my fault. I think she did the right thing by leaving, but once she left she attacked many people—not only me, our audience, too, and almost everyone on the show. She lost credibility. She was like a bad roommate. There was a lot of tension on the set. I have a fear of confrontation, and she can be aggressive, so I was afraid of her. Shannen doesn't hate you—she hates herself. I haven't been able to figure it out, and I might die not knowing. And that's OK. OK. You and Shannen Doherty in a celebrity death match: Who wins? Sarah Michelle Gellar.

2004: Alyssa fires her agency over them signing Shannen. Agency sues and apparently wins their lawsuit against Alyssa for $1mill

2021:

While Milano said she's still so very proud of Charmed, she didn't always have the easiest time on set, especially when it came to her co-star, Beverly Hills, 90210 alum Shannen Doherty. After years of tension between the two during the show's eight seasons, Milano said she and Doherty are now "cordial." "I would say we are cordial," she shared. "You know, I could take responsibility for a lot of our tension that we had. I think a lot of our struggle came from feeling that I was in competition rather than it being that sisterhood that the show was so much about. And I have some guilt about my part in that." While the 48-year-old actress admitted that she still has some guilt for her part in their feud, their decades-old spat didn't stop her from reaching out to Doherty when she was first diagnosed with breast cancer in 2015. 2022/2023: Shannen speaks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHisM0QLPEw&t=85s&ab_channel=Let%27sBeClearwithShannenDohertyPods

So it was interesting that when I had a problem after this all transpired and I wanted to discuss leaving the show and all my reasons why they put me in a room with Jonathan Levin, which I don't know that I had seen since we went to network, and you had told me about your background with him, which is varied and interesting, and he obviously has a very fond spot, shall we say, for you, And I don't know why they chose him to do this meeting, but I can tell you that during the meeting where I said this is not the show I signed on to do, I hear that you're looking for other people. And it's not about the list of names. It's about this was not a show that I wanted to do without Shannon. She didn't want to do it without me. Therefore I don't want to do it without her, and that should be fairly clear. And he hadars in his eyes already because he could see I was getting upset. As you can hear me getting upset, And I said, why would you hire her again just to fire her? And he said, we didn't mean to, And he said, but we've been backed into this corner. He said, you know, we're basically in a position where it's one or the other. We were told that it's her me and Alyssa has threatened to sue us for a hostile workplace environment, which because she went to the therapist or the mediator or the corporate mediator, whatever the heck his title is, she built a case for herself where she was documenting every time she felt uncomfortable on set and for whatever reason, whereas you and I refused to speak to him. So that's where the deck was stacked There was no either even like harsh words exchanged. It was all behind the scenes, it was all in the trailer. It was nothing that anybody or any of our guest stars ever noticed or noted. And you know, there's not a director that would not work with you. Again, there's not any one of our crew members that did not have a great time working with you. So by today's standards, it wouldn't fucking fly, right, And I don't think being laid as a teenager on a set called nine O two one zero would fly for being fired either. Like it's just it's just doesn't make any sense anymore. There are people that actually behave badly and get away with it, and there are men that you know, abuse people, throw things, screaming fits and get away with it. Alyssa/Holly Speak:

Guest stars speak throughout the years:

Michael Bailey Smith aka Belthazor/Shax/Grimlock I did 14 episodes on “Charmed” and had a great time. Whenever I showed up to the set as Belthazor, Alyssa Milano would always give me a kiss on the cheek and say, “You’re not scary.” Holly was really nice too, really down to earth. And I know the rumors about Shannen Doherty, but for me, she was always nice and very professional. I would always see her doing extra work off the set with the stunt people just to make sure her fight scenes looked good. I remember one time when we were preparing for a scene, she got a box of roses from someone. When she opened them, they were dead roses. People can be so cruel. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10157836541399125&set=a.404883944124&type=3&theater

Brian Krause (leo)“ I can just tell you that she was the hardest working person on the set. Yes, she could be terse and abrupt, but she wasn’t always wrong, I’ll tell you that.”“She had everybody’s back, she was part of the family, she was the family. And when she left, we all wondered how the show was gonna last, and it’s honestly a miracle that we did and kudos to Holly and Alyssa and Rose [McGowan] that we did, they kept it together. But I have nothing but love for Shannen Doherty.”“Most of those comments come from guys, men in power with money who don’t like to be told what to do by a woman, especially a strong opinionated woman,” he said, adding: “She wasn’t always right, but she stood her ground.”https://www.pedestrian.tv/entertainment/brian-krause-interview/

James L Conway (producer)"Shannen was nice to almost everyday, she had script problems, always nice to the cast, she was the HEART AND SOUL OF CHARMED" That really says it all doesn't it? She viewed Charmed as her baby.Source: Charmed blu ray special feature

Christine Rose (Claire)"It was all with Shannen, and I thought she was absolutely darling. I had worked with her years before on Life Goes on. That was about a boy with a Down’s syndrome, and I was guest-starring as the boy’s teacher. Shannen was on that episode, too, and I was setting them up to be married, for what that might be like. I was new to L.A. then because I’d mostly been on the stage, and I was relatively new to being on camera. And I remember thinking, «This girl is a pro”. So I was aware of how good Shannen was, and she was very nice when I did Charmed. I enjoyed working with her, Holly Marie Combs, I had played her biological mother on Picket Fences. We didn’t get to work together on Charmed, but it was fun just getting to see her again. Otherwise my experience was pretty straightforward.

Actually, one other thing I remember was being at a table and another guest star was having a hard time. In between takes Shannen said something very encouraging and nurturing to her, and I thought she was very nice. So those are my memories, as sparse as they are"Source Unknown via: https://thecharmedcafe.proboards.com/thread/11658/guest-stars-working-shannen-doherty

TW King (andy) I think some of it is rumor, but a lot of it is based on truth because she was young when success hit her. The great thing about Shannen is that she is a total professional and is always prepared, and she expects everyone around her to be at the same level - and I like to think I am the same way, so I respect the way she is around the set. We get things done, things rapidly and according to the script, so I certainly can't complain.Source Unknown via: https://thecharmedcafe.proboards.com/thread/11658/guest-stars-working-shannen-doherty

Scott Steiner (Wrestling W/Demons demon) Steiner is asked about appearing on the TV show "Charmed" while working in WCW. He said that while explaining to Shannen Doherty's stunt double that he would have to put his hand in her crotch to perform a press slam, Shannen came up to him and said that she would do that and when Steiner told her that he would have to put his hand in her crotch, Shannen told him that is why she asked. Steiner says that she was cool and gets a lot of bad press.https://www.rspwfaq.net/2014/05/rf-video-shoot-interview-with-scott.html

Armin Shimerman (The Wizard) "I hated the ladies on "Bewitched"...um...uh..."Charmed!" "Charmed!" And there's a reason they were cast as witches. I...of all the shows I've ever worked, that was by far the ugliest." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zl24cHSS-w (8:10)

Danielle Harris (Aviva) First AC guy was talking to me - Shannen kept walking by, she wasn't very nice to me anyway but she kept getting mad. Wasn't sure what was going on. Wasn't a fun experience. A lot of fighting between the girls. If I pick Shannen, Holly would be mean. If I picked Holly, Shannen would be mean. Alyssa kept telling me what to do as if I didn't know anything. The AC was using me to get back at Shannen. He had been her boyfriend for 1.5 years. Thats why I was getting stink eye.

Scout Compton (Thistle the fairy) I did 7 or 8 episodes and it was interesting. I wasnt on (when Rose was on NOTE: She was only on 1 episode with Shannen. The rest with Rose)The women were always fighting in the makeup trailer.

https://talkscarytome.podbean.com/e/talk-scary-to-me-e9/ (22:00)

Geoffrey Blake (Four horseman) Alyssa was very welcoming. Most of them were except one that wasnt so nice**. (Shannen was largely absent this episode)** https://podcasts.apple.com/be/podcast/geoffrey-blake-podcast-apocalypse-not-part-2/id1573860155?i=1000526963557

Elisabeth Hernois ( Brooke in the season 3 episode "Magic Hour"):

The dynamic on set was “interesting,” she said, as she “hadn’t really ever witnessed anything like that on a set — where people really aren’t hiding not liking each other.”

“Definitely as a young person, I sensed the tension on the set,” Harnois, 44, said, noting that her overall experience was “actually really good” as she shouted out Alyssa Milano, who she said “was a sweetheart to me.”

“She really took me under her wing, and a lot of my stuff was with her too, so that was helpful,” she recalled.

Shannen Doherty and Holly Marie Combs, who made up the other ⅔ of the sister witches who led the show, “were nice to me but not as effusively kind as Alyssa was,” Harnois said.

“And they were always off in their own space and [Alyssa] would sit all the way on the other side of the set by herself," she continued. “There was a major divide on that set, even back then, and I don’t think that was that long into the show.” https://people.com/charmed-guest-star-recalls-major-divide-on-set-shannen-doherty-alyssa-milano-8604809

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Type 2 - Week 8

This week’s reading left me cold and pale but aligned well with everything on my plate this week. It was interesting how all the older technology around typography is framed as past tense while this technology is still alive, well, and thriving. Thanks to visiting artists like Brad Vetter, letterpress will never die; the world will be better for it. I couldn’t help but think about how type has evolved with tech and devolved. Many typefaces would never see the light of day if an artisan had to carve it out of wood or cast it out of metal. I’m torn about whether or not the advances are net positive for the world.

We have a “week off” coming up, but I don’t think I can take more than the weekend off. There is plenty of work to do; while I have something ready for the zine project, there’s always the backside to work on. I want to push this around how Massimo talked about how Helvetica could set the mood and understanding based on weight, kerning, and leading.

Also, I need to find some electric pink tabloid paper. Where does one pick up Astrobright papers in Columbia? This order is not big enough for Mac Papers.

[abwwia]

Portrait of Aliza Nisenbaum (b. 1977, Mexico City). Photo credit to Brad Ogbonna/ Courtesy of Vogue.

Aliza Nisenbaum, "Tumbao de Omambo" (2020). Oil on canvas. Courtesy the artist and Anton Kern Gallery.

source & more HERE

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Danny R Cundiff (Scott Cundiff's Father)

Danny Cundiff, 71, passed away December 21, 2023 surrounded by his family. He was born on January 1, 1952, in Louisville Kentucky to Arthur Thomas Cundiff and Anna Mae Lawson.

Danny played on the Camp Taylor Little League baseball team, where he proudly pitched a no hitter game. In high school, he discovered his love for rock-n-roll and long hair. When his coach told him to choose between baseball and his hair, he left baseball. His band, the Strugglers, was made up of a group of talented friends who competed in the 1969 “Battle of the Bands”. During the 1980’s, he returned to baseball to coach Germantown Little League teams, allowing him to spend time in the sport he loved with the person he loved the most, his son Scott.

After graduating from Durrett High School in 1970, he attended the University of Kentucky and Jefferson Community College. He then joined Cundiff Electric Company as an electrical contractor, working with his father, who founded the company in 1945. Danny eventually took over the company and grew it into the commercial electric business it is today.

Danny rarely went places without seeing people he knew and loved. He was a very social, fun-loving guy who enjoyed hosting parties. He especially loved tailgating at U of L football games, going to the lake, and meeting-up with friends at The Brewery and Kern’s Korner. While spending time with his many friends, Danny met his wife, Susan, who shares his love for friends and fun. They were a perfect match and shared many good times and fun trips to their favorite places.

As an avid car collector, he had a particular passion for buying and selling Volkswagens and Corvettes. To keep his cars looking “tip-top”, he always kept a Swiffer in the garage to clean off the car he was planning to take out for a spin.

He was dearly loved and will be terribly missed by his family and friends. Preceded in death by his parents, his brother Charlie Cundiff, and his sister JoAnn Cundiff Kelley. He is survived by his loving wife of 18 years, Susan Brennan, his son Scott Cundiff (Sandy) and stepson Jody Nalley (Karen) and two grandsons, Sean and Brad Cundiff, along with a niece and two nephews.

The visitation will be Wednesday, December 27th, from 1:00pm - 8:00pm at Highlands Funeral Home, 3331 Taylorsville Road and service will be on Thursday, December 28th, at 11:00 am at Highlands Funeral Home. Burial at Cave Hill Cemetery to follow.

Expressions of sympathy may be made to Father Maloney’s Boys and Girls Haven.

Link to obit: https://www.highlandsfuneralhome.com/memorials/danny-cundiff/5348175/index.php

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tagged by @crownofstardustandbone

a few days late lol but here we are.

1. 3 ships: sterek, percabeth and stucky. i love me some devoted, pining fools. no grave can hold my body down perfection.

2. first ever ship: it was piper/leo from charmed. brad kern deserves as much shit as jeff davis gets.

3. last song: the bones by marin morris

4. last movie: i don't watch movies too often tbh. i think the last one i really watched was rogue one.

5. currently reading: i just finished percy jackson and the chalice of the gods.

6. currently watching: teen wolf (always) and newrockstar's rebels breakdowns.

7. currently consuming: i just had a bertolli frozen pasta meal (penne with shrimp and asparagus) and a pepsi for lunch.

8. currently craving: i bought some tastee caramel apples and i want one.

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"Creator's pesto: Brad Kern viewed Chris this was in Season 6, and toyed with various possibilities and backstories for the character so that many of his early episodes were written without any clue of the direction his character was to go in." Sorry, this was the quote that I thought contradicted the other. I don't see wrong that an actor doesn't necessarily know everything about the character or where it's going (unless you do it like MCU)but you don't have any idea what u r doing with them...

Well it really just depends because with Chris, it just creates awkward moments in retrospect, like him kissing pretend Phoebe or there being the hint of a possible attraction between him and Paige and they're his aunts? Backtracking that takes a lot.

[bramblewatchescharmed]

At this point I'm automatically wary whenever I see male Charmed (1998) fans writing meta and engaging with the fandom, especially if they're straight, white, cisgender men.

I'm not saying there can't be male fans of Charmed, obviously, but given this show was created by a woman, with female leads, and is specifically about women's struggles while using witchcraft as an allegory . . . men's takes on this show are going to be inherently different and missing a lot of the . . . nuance, I guess?

More like Charmed is pretty specifically about women's experiences, which cis men by default are not going to get on the same level as someone who's AFAB.

Also something, something about the show being set up from the get-go as the Charmed Ones being the most powerful good witches in existence, and it's deliberate they're all sisters, descended from a matriarchal line of witches . . . only for Brad Kern to take over as showrunner entirely starting from season 5, and suddenly Piper's baby is revealed to be a boy that's super-special and apparently more powerful than even the Charmed Ones. (The one thing I like about the comics is that they removed Wyatt's Twice-Blessed status, so he's just a regular Whitelighter-witch.)

My issue is more with straight™️ fanboys coming into a fandom space dominated by (straight & queer) women / queer men, from a show that specifically deals with women's experiences and uses witchcraft as an allegory, and then demanding that that fandom space cater to them, when they are very much not the intended audience. And these straight fanboys often have horrible takes regarding Cole, the Charmed Ones, Chris, and Wyatt.