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Phoenician literature is one of, if not the most tragic loses in human history. Cities like Tyre and Carthage had huge libraries, yet not a single book from them survived. All we have in their language are scattered inscriptions, few letters on papyrus, and translated fragments.
(Wikipedia article on Phoenician-Punic literature)
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Tall Tales: A Dose of The Surreal From G. Willow Wilson, M.K. Perker, and Berger Books
Tall Tales: A Dose of The Surreal From G. Willow Wilson, M.K. Perker, and Berger Books #comics #comicbooks #graphicnovel
Dark Horse and Berger Books present a strange new mystery from G. Willow Wilson, renowned writer of Poison Ivy, Ms. Marvel Alif the Unseen and the Eisner-award winning Invisible Kingdom and accomplished illustrator M.K. Perker. The two previously collaborated on the hit series Air, recently brought back to print in four volumes from Dark Horse and Berger Books and the graphic novel Cairo. TheirâŠ
#berger books#dark horse#Dark Horse Comics#g. willow wilson#graphic novel#graphic novels#m.k. perker#richard bruning#the stoneshore register
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i feel like if jason wants to stop devenementiel team building he should convince everyone to play uno against thomas.
#genuinely concerned for that specific situation#not for jason making them play uno#but for playing uno against thomas#bro's thoughts are in 1080p and mine would be at 420p because i suck ass playing uno#as we could see in ep 7... he's not that good of a liar lol but in this case i think he has the ability to beat up everyone /affectionately#i also DO NOT want to be present (yet again) in the same room that Amanda and Roy are going to be fighting#as for devon i think in his bio it says he likes competitions sooo bro could also get intense with this#elenda and i are going to scape no matter what lol#now if we throw goldreamz trio into the mix it's going to be even worse#like don't get me wrong i would have fun because if i have to recognize something about jason is that his sarcasm can be really funny#âyou read me like an open book Royâ had me DEAD the first time i read it. and as we know Jason IS a good liar#i think both teams would lie to each other#i also think Brune's going to demolish Danica because looking back at what she said to her at the fair... there's some unresolved issues
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Publishorial by Jenette Kahn (circa May 1989)
#publishorial#dc comics#Jenette kahn#Richard bruning#covers#comic book covers#comics history#comics#80s comics
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NOTE TO SELF:
Seth Abramson Article "HotD Ryan Condal Responds to Criticism of the Season 1 Finale" -> basically how HotD is written disfavorably against both female characters in the most basic fiction writing way (active vs passivity making and breaking a character) AND inconsistencies of basic logic
My Post Questioning the Logic of Their Relationship
A List of Posts I Wrote against the Anti-Targ Sentiment
Incest in Old Vayria and Marriage
The Popularity of the Targs vs First Men/Andal History Pre-Targs
Somehow, the Targs are "Upstarts" (Against a Classist Take which reveals the fear of dragons and magic bc they are consistently shown to be dualittic instruments of freedom and destruction, thus out of the control of "mere" humans)
This One Post Written by Ozymalek about How Many Years Westeros Actually Had Peace Under the Targs (no infighting like what occurred BEFORE Aegon I conquered [not colonized] Westeros)
Ozymalek Dissecting Episode 6 and how Show!alicent Doesn't Compare to Book!Alicent (While episodes 6 & 7 were closer to the book!Alicent, she is still is the over-victimized/dumbed down version)
Against the Idea that Rhaenyra Had to What the Other Lords Thought She Should be, since They Already Think her unworthy based on her Gender
The Textual/Canonical Treatment of Alicent Reveals Misogyny from the Maesters and Larger Westerosi Society Against Her in a Multilayered Ironic Twist -> History barely remembers and the text/Gyldayn/maesters/society don't truly see her as a true threat, yet she directs the usurpation of Rhaenyra with her Wits by Acting within the Constraints of the Very PAtriarchy that will Belittle Her)
So Really, It's a Lot More Complicated than What is Being Lead Here
LOOk Iâm not saying that the dragon show is perfect, but Iâm tired of reading these takes about how the show doesnât understand the source material. That it has a pro-Targ stance. How people can say that even after a finale where two Targs lose control of their fire-breathing nukes and end up jump-starting the bloodiest civil war in Westerosi history?? I donât know.
People seem to think that the show has portrayed Rhaenyra as perfect (questionable) and the good guy, and wouldnât it be better if theyâd stayed more faithful to the source material where Rhaenyra was kinda awful and a terrible leader?
Hereâs the thing about the source material okay (and Iâve seen surprisingly little discussion of this): F&B is written from the perspective of a Maester living in a world steeped in violent misogyny. Maester Gyldaynâs prejudice against women colors his interpretations of events. I think Martin expects the reader to engage with this aspect of the text. That not only are we dealing with three unreliable sources, but the narrator himself has his own prejudices. Women who birth trueborn male children are spoken of much more charitably than women who refuse to marry or exhibit any sort of sexual agency. In fact, any woman exercising sexual agency has been characterized as fickle, manipulative, or vindictive (e.g. Saera Targaryen, Rhaenyra, Alys Rivers, etc.). So we canât take any of the Maesterâs impressions about women at face value. This shit is subtextual and it is frustratingly ignored by A LOT of book readers.Â
HotD is directly engaging with this latent theme in F&B. Which is GREAT and unexpected after the way GoT treated women. A lot of people seem to think that the show is pro-team black, but I think the showâs just pro-Rhaenyra (itâs also pro-Alicent, Iâm sorry if you canât accept this but Rhaenyra đandđ Alicentđ aređ the đprotagonists). Or at least itâs trying to portray her with more empathy and nuance. Book!Rhaenyra doesnât have much agency. Daemon is the driving force behind everything she does. He teaches her how to have sex, he fights all the battles she wins; after Lukeâs death sheâs barely involved in the war. From the perspective of a misogynistic Maester this must be the truth. The show couldâve portrayed a more morally gray Rhaenyra but ultimately the writers decided to make this show about Rhaenyra and Alicent and their tragic, doomed love affair the disintegration of their relationship, as a commentary on how violent patriarchal systems ruin people even when they have generally good intentions. And show!Rhaenyraâs far from perfect, sheâs arrogant, she (like her groomer uncle) has issues with consent, she absolutely takes advantage of her dumb dadâs callous treatment of everyone apart from her.
So the fucking white stag is the thing people bring up as an example of the the show picking Rhaenyra as the rightful ruler/ chosen one. But this ignores the context of the what happened before we see the white stag. Viserysâs hunting party has caught a normal stag, and we see him unwilling to kill it but caving under the pressure because thatâs who he is as a person and as a king. Viserys hates violence but when it is expected of him he will enact it (cutting open his first wife to get an heir, committing marital rape on his second wife). Rhaenyra sees the white stag but she shows restraint. Her claim to the throne is already threatened by Aegonâs birth, killing the stag would have been as symbolic gesture to show the lords present at the hunt that her father had made the right choice when naming her as heir. But unlike her father (and her uncle) Rhaenyra does not believe in using violence as a show of strength (something that becomes relevant again in the finale).
The stag canât be a sign that Rhaenyra is the divinely appointed ruler of Westeros because we (and the writers) know how this all ends.Â
AND THEN thereâs prophecy and the business with the dagger. Now weâll have to see where they go with this (I think they have some coherent plan with this). But does the prophecy as the reason for Aegonâs conquest now cast Targaryen imperialism in a positive light? Well again, we know how the story ends. It was a dumb af ending but this is the prequel to GoT the show, so writers know how this ends. The Targs donât do shit with this dagger. Their precious prophecy will be lost to time. The most they did was act as glorified couriers who brought the dagger from Valyria. All their ideas of grand destiny will amount to nothing. What do you call that? Dramatic irony?Â
#house of the dragon#rhaenyra targeryan#alicent hightower#rhaenicent#hotd writing#well it's apparent that this is coming from the idea that rhaenyra apparently is âarrogantâ (negatively esp)#and that the prophjecy of the song of ice and fire is a useless unimportant element to the series literally called A Song of Ice and Fire#said prophecy which is about the very state and fate of the world as all these people and those in the main series knows it#oh and the idea that the targs are mainly/just a negative presence in westeros and somehow magic/symbolism means way less than the#ârealityâ of human politics OH WAIT one of the biggest moments of ASoIaF narratively and thematically are dragons those very same#ânukesâ OP describes again mainly negatively because of a latent but bruning anxiety of how little control the âaverageâ human (like#the Westerosi/Andal/FM (btw whose ancestors are closer to the imperialists the Westerosi Targs are being accused of)#its actually not latent at all the theme either how the maesters write women displaying agency of any sort negatively#its quite obvious and the sentence OP writes actually reveals how obvious both they and how we SHOULD see....talk about a slip of the finge#despite all of this writing in favor of the rhaenicent plot/relationship and DESPITE F&B BEING WRITTEN BY MAESTERS there is irrefutable#evidence of characterizations and character ages through repeated behaviors those behaviors' contexts and outside websites (So Spake Martin#that show us rhaenicent is a fabrication#one that actually reduces both alicent & rhaenyra's agency as compared to what we glean (if we know how to read) from websites & the book(s
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One reason for why I find shipping Jonsa as a canon ship hilarious is that book Sansa would be so horrified if anyone suggested she marry Jon Snow!
And I think it's because Jonsa shippers themselves think differently to book Sansa. They know that Jon is a central character in the series, that he is a decent guy, has some secret parentage issues going on with the possibility of legitimacy, is loyal and forward thinking etc.
However, these matters don't concern book Sansa. She is a Stark - one of the last remaining Starks in Westeros. She is the eldest daughter of house Stark. The eldest daughter of the former Warden of the North and one of the formerly strongest houses of Westeros which still has a lot of loyalty from other Northern houses. She grew up with high expectations for her marriage.
She was formerly destined to be Queen of Westeros by marriage to Joffrey. She was considered for marriage to the Tyrell heir and would have been Lady of Highgarden. She married Tyrion Lannister who is heir to Casterly Rock. She is currently plotting to marry Harry the Heir - future heir to the Vale upon SweetRobin's death.
So as is seen by her as her right, Sansa expects a marriage to a very high born noble. So far all her prospects have been heirs to big houses and kingdoms.
In AGoT she thinks that the Stark Steward's daughter Jeyne Poole - The Pooles possibly being minor lords with a holdfast near Winterfell - was far beneath Lord Beric Dondarrion.
"Lord Beric is as much a hero as Ser Loras. He's ever so brave and gallant." "I suppose," Sansa said doubtfully. Beric Dondarrion was handsome enough, but he was awfully old, almost twenty-two; the Knight of Flowers would have been much better. Of course, Jeyne had been in love with Lord Beric ever since she had first glimpsed him in the lists. Sansa thought she was being silly; Jeyne was only a steward's daughter, after all, and no matter how much she mooned after him, Lord Beric would never look at someone so far beneath him, even if she hadn't been half his age.
For the same reason, Sansa would think that the bastard Jon Snow was beneath someone like Jeyne Poole.
In fact in her most recent sample TWoW chapter we see she doesn't think much of bastards. Five books in, with the very last published chapter, we see her matchmaking for the 19 year old Mya Stone with the much older, very low born, not good looking Lothor Brune because according to her that would be a good match for a bastard...
Alayne wondered what Mya made of Ser Lothor. With his squashed nose, square jaw, and nap of woolly grey hair, Brune could not be called comely, but he was not ugly either. Though he had risen to knighthood, Ser Lothor's birth had been very low. Brune would be a good match for a bastard girl like Mya Stone, she thought. It might be different if her father had acknowledged her, but he never did. And Maddy says that she's no maid either.
Sansa would be utterly shocked if someone suggested she marry loyal, honest, good Lothor Brune. He would be very low born for her. And if Lothor Brune is not good enough for Sansa how would she feel about marrying a baseborn bastard?
As much as Sansa would be joyful to reunite with her last living relative Jon Snow, she would rather match-make Jon Snow with some low born girl, some hedge knight's or freerider's daughter than marry him. And she would still think that a baseborn like Jon Snow would be lucky to marry someone higher up the chain like lowborn girls - the same way she thinks of Mya Stone and Lothor Brune.
Remember, bastards don't have any lands and are stigmatized as less than, being treacherous and lustful by nature of birth. Ned Stark gave Jon Snow no lands, instead packed him off to the Night's Watch.
Remember Alys Karstark dancing with Robb Stark and not Jon Snow because her father took her there to meet with the heir and not the bastard?
Look at Jaime's thoughts about Sybell Spicer:
"Your lord father promised me worthy marriages for Jeyne and her younger sister. Lords or heirs, he swore to me, not younger sons nor household knights." Lords or heirs. To be sure. The Westerlings were an old House, and proud, but Lady Sybell herself had been born a Spicer, from a line of upjumped merchants.
Or Lady Sybell's reaction to betrothing her son to Joy Hill. And this is only house Westerling.
"I have two sons as well," Lady Westerling reminded him. "Rollam is with me, but Raynald was a knight and went with the rebels to the Twins. If I had known what was to happen there, I would never have allowed that." Even from the grave, Lord Tywin's dead hand moves us all. "Joy is my late uncle Gerion's natural daughter. A betrothal can be arranged, if that is your wish, but any marriage will need to wait. Joy was nine or ten when last I saw her." "His natural daughter?" Lady Sybell looked as if she had swallowed a lemon. "You want a Westerling to wed a bastard?"
Also recall that the original arrangement was for two bastards to marry - Joy Hill, Gerion Lannister's bastard, to marry a Frey bastard.
So imagine Sansa's reaction to a suggestion that she marry the bastard Jon Snow... She would think it's a joke and laugh. She would be aghast and horrified. She would be repulsed and see it as punishment.
That's just how the high born Westerosi society thinks. Bastards are seen as the lowest strata. This is how feudal classism works in Westeros.
So unless Sansa gets suddenly and magically enlightened on classist prejudice, then Jonsa is something that is never, ever, ever going to happen. This is not even getting into what Jon Snow thinks and feels about the high born traditional ladies upholding Westerosi patriarchal ideals of femininity.
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Did Sansa ever dream to be with hound the night she was in bed with tyrion and it was before Sandor sexually assaulted her? Was that GRRM being too much into the beauty and beast?
Has GRRM said that he thinks drogo and Daenerys were a nice couple? Would that change anything about Sansa x sandor being one-sided attraction?
(Also, sorry to bother you. I havenât read the books, but I came across this information after unintentionally stumbling upon a sansan video while searching for Sansa content and reading the comments. I just wanted to clarifyâhope itâs not too much to ask.)
GRRM has specifically said that in the Books Daenerys wedding night was consensual (Because in the end she says "YES"), but this was changed in the Show, where that scene was not consensual.
I personally think that in both, Books & Show, Daenerys wedding night was not consensual.
Dany's first sexual encounter with Drogo was changed to assault. He undresses her and bends her over onto her knees while she cries. Then the scene cuts away. "Why did the wedding scene change from the consensual seduction scene ... to the brutal rape of Emilia Clarke? We never discussed it. It made it worse, not better," Martin said in "Fire Cannot Kill a Dragon." Source
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Now, about Sansa's nightmares with men that traumatized and abused her:
In ACOCK cujo tries to rape her during the night of the Blackwater Battle.
In the next book ASOS she marries Tyrion. During her wedding night Tyrion tries to rape her as well but stop after seeing her repulsion to his not consensual touches.
Later, also in ASOS, when she's in The Vale disguised as Alayne Stone, after hearing her aunt Lysa having sex with Petyr Baelish during their wedding night, she remembers her own wedding night and also remembers cujo's words.
Later, the same night of her aunt Lysa's wedding, Marillion the bard tries to rape Alayne Stone but she was saved by Lothor Brune, who Sansa at first thought it was cujo because Lothor's raspy voice sounds similar.
And much later that same night she has that nightmare about her wedding night with Tyrion and her husband morphing into cujo.
As you can see, it's all conected with the sexual abuse she endured and the trauma that abuse left.
The cujo cultist talk and write a lot about Sansa's nightmare of her wedding night, where Tyrion, her husband, morphs into cujo, to the point of calling that nightmare a "wet dream" about cujo (they are the ones having wet dreams about cujo, not Sansa), but they will never talk about how Sansa had a similar nightmare with Joffrey, her former betrothed, morphing into Illyn Payne in previous chapters in the same Book:
âOnce she dreamed it was still her marrying Joff, not Margaery, and on their wedding night he turned into the headsman Ilyn Payne. She woke trembling.âÂ
âA Storm of Swords - Sansa II
The memory of her own wedding night with Tyrion was much with her. In the dark, I am the Knight of Flowers, he had said. I could be good to you. But that was only another Lannister lie. A dog can smell a lie, you know, the Hound had told her once. She could almost hear the rough rasp of his voice. Look around you, and take a good whiff. Theyâre all liars here, and every one better than you. She wondered what had become of Sandor Clegane. Did he know that theyâd killed Joffrey? Would he care? He had been the princeâs sworn shield for years.
(...)
That night Sansa scarcely slept at all, but tossed and turned just as she had aboard the Merling King. She dreamt of Joffrey dying, but as he clawed at his throat and the blood ran down across his fingers she saw with horror that it was her brother Robb. And she dreamed of her wedding night too, of Tyrionâs eyes devouring her as she undressed. Only then he was bigger than Tyrion had any right to be, and when he climbed into the bed his face was scarred only on one side. âIâll have a song from you,â he rasped, and Sansa woke and found the old blind dog beside her once again. âI wish that you were Lady,â she said.
âA Storm of Swords - Sansa VI
That nightmare about Tyrion and cujo, two men that tried to rape her, happens after another man (Marillion) tried to rape her. That's the connection between all those men, there's nothing romantic there, not wet dreams, not lust, not future romance foreshadowing, not true love.
And much later, when Petyr Baelish kissed Sansa without her consent, she will remember Marillion's words the night he tried to rape her. I repeat, it's all connected with the sexual abuse she endured and the trauma that abuse left.
Here more things I wrote about the cujo cult:
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And about Sansa and the Beauty & the Beast, read more here:
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There you have it, GRRM never said that any of these "ships" are "nice." But cujo cultist would twist his words in their favor, despite GRRM saying the contrary several times over the years.
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I'm trying to calculate or at least approximate in headcanon the ages that I think each character is in New Gen
First according to ep 5, Ysaline is 22 years old, since she says that she was 9 when her sister Tasha was 3, and now her sister is 16, (although since each sucrette is customizable, I think each player can have the freedom to decide what age prefer to imagine that they have their sucrette in New Gen, and that's what I'm going to do with mines)
Anyway, this also gives us a clue as to at least Thomas's current age. And also this other important fact: Thomas is 10 when OldSucrette (Lynn) is 17. So they are 7 years apart.
And there's supposed to be a 3-year time jump after Love Life to the special crossover ep. Since Lynn is 26 in LL, she is 29 in that special ep.
If we subtract 7 from 29, then Thomas is 22 years old. The same one as supposedly Ysaline canonically.
Now, it is much more difficult to estimate the age of the other characters. The only clue we have is that Elenda said in ep 4 that she was 6-7 when Devon was 10-11. Taking into account that many stories in video games, books and animes sometimes tend to use even and round numbers in big time-skips so that readers can easily remember the dates, it makes me assume that 20 years have passed since that time. So Elenda would be 26-27 and Devon about 30-31. Now the problem is that we don't know if Roy and Devon are the same age or if Roy is younger, we only know that they went to the same high school and so did Elenda, and these three met each other since they were kids, but I'm inclined to think that Roy and Devon were more like friends in a sense of older-younger brothers, since Devon seems older due to his features and behavior, so perhaps Roy is the same age as Elenda. I can be wrong though, and Roy and Devon being the same age, but this is what I think for now~
We also don't know Amanda's age, but due to her features, she appears to be around the age of Thomas and Elenda. Although Elenda in a scene from ep 3 defines herself as "the fairy godmother of Devenementiel" and says that she was there from the beginning, while Amanda seems like a recent member of the company, which makes me think that perhaps Elenda is a little older than Amanda.
Jason could be either Roy's age or Devon's age, but I'm inclined to think that it would be more convincing for Jason to be Devon's age, given his features, and since they are both company bosses and direct rivals, it would make sense for them to be the same age, and olders than the other crushes.
And Brune seems from her features to be somewhat older than Elenda, but perhaps not as old as Devon.
So my final conclusions are:
Thomas: 22 (the only age probably canon for now) Amanda: between 22-24 Roy: 26/27 Devon: 30/31 Jason: 30/31
Elenda: 26/27 Brune: 28~
There are other possibilities, of course. But the only thing we can be quite sure of is Thomas's age, being 7 years older than Lynn and the same as Ysaline, and that Devon is 4 years older than Elenda. It's also possible, for example, that they are all 22 except Devon and Jason being 26, but Rayan Zaidi is 33 in UL and Devon and Jason's features seem -at least from my pov- closer to that age than in the middle of the twenties~
Anyway, I'd like to know the opinion based on these calculations and/or headcanons of other players regarding this topic đ
I guess we won't know until they confirm it in the game, if they confirm it in future eps, however if it is never revealed, I'd really like to know what the canonical ages of each crush are. So @chinomiko if you ever see this, please it'd be wonderful if you could answer this some day, or at least if these ideas are close to the canon. I know that the age of each character is something that doesn't have too much importance since everyone can imagine what they want, but I am especially curious about Jason and Devon <3 Besides these details are always useful for fanfic material.
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Nurarihyon (ăŹăăăČăă) from Bakemono no e (ćç©äčçčȘ, c. 1700), Harry F. Bruning Collection of Japanese Books and Manuscripts, L. Tom Perry Special Collections, Harold B. Lee Library, Brigham Young University.
"Nurarihyon" from the Hyakkai Zukan by Sawaki Suushi
#Nurarihyon#yokai are so funny so many of them are like what if there was a weird guy would that be scary or what#image and source from Wikipedia
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Berger Books and Dark Horse present Death Strikes: The Emperor of Atlantis
Berger Books and Dark Horse present Death Strikes: The Emperor of Atlantis #comics #comicbooks #graphicnovel
Death Strikes: The Emperor of Atlantis is a timely and timeless original graphic novel by EFF journalist Dave Maass and artist Patrick Lay, based on a suppressed opera written by two concentration camp prisoners. In 1943 Peter Kien and Viktor Ullmann, two prisoners at Hitlerâs TerezĂn concentration camp in Czechoslovakia, created a gripping one-act opera. They did not live to see theirâŠ
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#berger books#dark horse#Dark Horse Comics#dave maass#death strikes: the emperor of atlantis#Ezra Rose#graphic novel#graphic novels#patrick lay#richard bruning
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I decided to try this but for the girlies instead.
Are you sure want to click on âkeep readingâ?
For Pauline LĂ©on marrying Claire Lacombeâs host, see Liberty: the lives of six women in Revolutionary France (2006) by Lucy Moore, page 230
For Pauline LĂ©on throwing a bust of Lafayette through FrĂ©ronâs window and being friends with Constance Evrard, see Pauline LĂ©on, une rĂ©publicaine rĂ©volutionnaire (2006) by Claude Guillon.
For Françoise Duplayâs sister visiting Catherine ThĂ©ot, see Points de vue sur lâaffaire Catherine ThĂ©ot (1969) by Michel Eude, page 627.
For Anne Félicité Colombe publishing the papers of Marat and Fréron, see The women of Paris and their French Revolution (1998) by Dominique Godineau, page 382-383.
For the relationship between Simonne Evrard and Albertine Marat, see this post.
For Albertine Marat dissing Charlotte Robespierre, see F.V Raspail chez Albertine Marat (1911) by Albert Mathiez, page 663.
For Lucile Desmoulins predicting Marie-Antoinette would mount the scaffold, see the formerâs diary from 1789.
For Lucile being friends with madame Boyer, Brune, Dubois-CrancĂ©, Robert and Danton, calling madame Ricordâs husband âbrusque, coarse, truly mad, giddy, insane,â visiting âan old madwomanâ with madame Duplayâs son and being hit on by Danton as well as Louise Robert saying she would stab Danton, see Lucileâs diary 1792-1793.
For the relationship between Lucile Desmoulins and Marie Hébert, see this post.
For the relationship between Lucile Desmoulins and ThérÚse Jeanne Fréron de la Poype, and the one between Annette Duplessis and Marguerite Philippeaux, see letters cited in Camille Desmoulins and his wife: passages from the history of the dantonists (1876) page 463-464 and 464-469.
For AdÚle Duplessis having been engaged to Robespierre, see this letter from Annette Duplessis to Robespierre, seemingly written April 13 1794.
For Claire Panis helping look after Horace Desmoulins, see Panis prĂ©cepteur dâHorace Desmoulins (1912) by Charles Valley.
For Ălisabeth Lebas being slandered by Guffroy, molested by Danton, treated like a daughter by Claire Panis, accusing Ricord of seducing her sister-in-law and being helped out in prison by ĂlĂ©onore, see Le conventionnel Le Bas : d'aprĂšs des documents inĂ©dits et les mĂ©moires de sa veuve, page 108, 125-126, 139 and 140-142.
For Ălisabeth Lebas being given an obscene book by Desmoulins, see this post.
For Charlotte Robespierre dissing JosĂ©phine, ĂlĂ©onore Duplay, madame Genlis, Roland and Ricord, see MĂ©moires de Charlotte Robespierre sur ses deux frĂšres (1834), page  76-77,  90-91, 96-97, 109-116 and 128-129.
For Charlotte Robespierre arriving two hours early to Rosalie Jullienâs dinner, see Journal dâune Bourgeoise pendant la RĂ©volution 1791â1793, page 345.
For Charlotte Robespierre physically restraining Couthon, see this post.
For Charlotte Robespierre and Françoise Duplayâs relationship, see MĂ©moires de Charlotte Robespierre sur ses deux frĂšres (1834) page 85-92 and Le conventional Le Bas: dâaprĂšs des documents inĂ©dits et les mĂ©moires de sa veuve (1902) page 104-105
For the relationship between Charlotte Robespierre and Victoire and Ălisabeth Lebas, see this post.
For Charlotte Robespierre visiting madame Guffroy, moving in with madame Laporte and Victoire Duplay being arrested by one of Charlotteâs friends, see Charlotte Robespierre et ses amis (1961)
For Louise de KĂ©ralio calling Etta Palm a spy, see Appel aux Françoises sur la rĂ©gĂ©nĂ©ration des mĆurs et nĂ©cessitĂ© de lâinfluence des femmes dans un gouvernement libre (1791) by the latter.
For the relationship between Manon Roland and Louise de KĂ©ralio Robert, see MĂ©moires de Madame Roland, volume 2, page 198-207Â
For the relationship between Madame Pétion and Manon Roland, see Mémoires de Madame Roland, volume 2, page 158 and 244-245 as well as Lettres de Madame Roland, volume 2, page 510.
For the relationship between Madame Roland and Madame Buzot, see Mémoires de Madame Roland (1793), volume 1, page 372, volume 2, page 167 as well as this letter from Manon to her husband dated September 9 1791. For the affair between Manon and Buzot, see this post.
For Manon Roland praising Condorcet, see MĂ©moires de Madame Roland, volume 2, page 14-15.
For the relationship between Manon Roland and Félicité Brissot, see Mémoires de Madame Roland, volume 1, page 360.
For the relationship between Helen Maria Williams and Manon Roland, see Memoirs of the Reign of Robespierre (1795), written by the former.
For the relationship between Mary Wollstonecraft and Helena Maria Williams, see Collected letters of Mary Wollstonecraft (1979), page 226.
For Constance Charpentier painting a portrait of Louise Sébastienne Danton, see Constance Charpentier: Peintre (1767-1849), page 74.
For Olympe de Gouges writing a play with fictional versions of the Fernig sisters, see LâEntrĂ©e de Dumourier Ă Bruxelles ou les Vivandiers (1793) page 94-97 and 105-110.
For Olympe de Gouges calling Charlotte Corday âa monster who has shown an unusual courage,â see a letter from the former dated July 20 1793, cited on page 204 of Marie-Olympe de Gouges: une humaniste Ă la fin du XVIIIe siĂšcle (2003) by Oliver Blanc.
For Olympe de Gouges adressing her declaration to Marie-Antoinette, see Les droits de la femme: à la reine (1791) written by the former.
For Germaine de Staël defending Marie-Antoinette, see Réflexions sur le procÚs de la Reine par une femme (1793) by the former.
For the friendship between Madame Royale and Pauline Tourzel, see Souvernirs de quarante ans: 1789-1830: rĂ©cit dâune dame de Madame la Dauphine (1861) by the latter.
For FĂ©licitĂ© Brissot possibly translating Mary Wollstonecraft, see Who translated into French and annotated Mary Wollstonecraftâs Vindication of the Rights of Woman? (2022) by Isabelle Bour.
For Félicité Brissot working as a maid for Louise Marie Adélaïde de Bourbon, see Mémoires inédites de Madame la comptesse de Genlis: sur le dix-huitiÚme siÚcle et sur la révolution française, volume 4, page 106.
For Reine Audu, Claire Lacombe and Théroigne de Méricourt being given civic crowns together, see Gazette nationale ou le Moniteur universel, September 3, 1792.
For Reine Audu taking part in the womenâs march on Versailles, see Reine Audu: les lĂ©gendes des journĂ©es dâoctobre (1917) by Marc de Villiers.
For Marie-Antoinette calling Lamballe âmy dear heart,â see Correspondance inĂ©dite de Marie Antoinette, page 197, 209 and 252.
For Marie-Antoinette disliking Madame du Barry, see https://plume-dhistoire.fr/marie-antoinette-contre-la-du-barry/
For Marie-Antoinette disliking Anne de Noailles, see Correspondance inédite de Marie Antoinette, page 30.
For Louise-Ălisabeth Tourzel and Lamballe being friends, see Memoirs of the Duchess de Tourzel: Governess to the Children of France during the years 1789, 1790, 1791, 1792, 1793 and 1795 volume 2, page 257-258
For FĂ©licitĂ© de Genlis being the mistress of Louise Marie AdĂ©laĂŻde de Bourbonâs husband, see La duchesse dâOrlĂ©ans et Madame de Genlis (1913).
For PĂ©tion escorting Madame Genlis out of France, see MĂ©moires inĂ©dites de Madame la comptesse de GenlisâŠ, volume 4, page 99.
For the relationship between Félicité de Genlis and Louise de Kéralio Robert, see Mémoires de Madame de Genlis: en un volume, page 352-354
For the relationship between Félicité de Genlis and Germaine de Staël, see Mémoires inédits de Madame la comptesse de Genlis, volume 2, page 316-317
For the relationship between Félicité de Genlis and Théophile Fernig, see Mémoires inédits de Madame la comptesse de Genlis, volume 4, page 300-304
For the relationship between Félicité de Genlis and Félicité Brissot, see Mémoires inédites de Madame la comptesse de Genlis, volume 4, page 106-110, as well as this letter dated June 1783 from Félicité Brissot to Félicité Genlis.
For the relationship between Félicité de Genlis and Théresa Cabarrus, see Mémoires de Madame de Genlis: en un volume (1857) page 391.
For Félicité de Genlis inviting Lucile to dinner, see this letter from Sillery to Desmoulins dated March 3 1791.
For Marinette Bouquey hiding the husbands of madame Buzot, Pétion and Guadet, see Romances of the French Revolution (1909) by G. Lenotre, volume 2, page 304-323
Hey, donât say I didnât warn you!
#french revolution#frev#marie antoinette#pauline léon#claire lacombe#théroigne méricourt#reine audu#charlotte robespierre#éléonore duplay#élisabeth duplay#élisabeth lebas#lucile desmoulins#louise de kéralio#félicité de genlis#félicité brissot#mary wollstonecraft#manon roland#madame royale#charlotte corday#albertine marat#simonne evrard#catherine théot#madame élisabeth#sophie condorcet#françoise duplay#cécile renault#gabrielle danton#louise sebastien danton#theresa tallien#theresa cabarrus
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I made a list of every single asioaf house I could find and put it in alphabetical order. There may be a few houses missing but as of right now there are 496 houses written down. There may be some doubles, if so I apologize but when I tried to recheck it my tablet (which I used to write this) froze. I wrote this on my notes app. This includes houses from all game of Thrones media, video games, the adaptations, the books hotd and anything else I could find. I hope that whoever stumbles across this uses it because this took way to long for just me to use. (BTW houses from essos and YI-TI are includes)
Ahlaq
Algood
Allyrion
Amber
Ambrose
Andrik
Antaryon
Appleton
Arryn
Ashford
Ashwood
Baelish
Ball
Banefort
Bar Emmon
Baratheon
Bax
Beesbury
Belgrave
Belmore
Bettley
Bigglestone
Blackbar
Blackberry
Blackbrow
Blackfyre
Blackmont
Blackmyre
Blacktyde
Blackwood
Blanetree
Blount
Boggs
Bole
Bolling
Bolton
Borrel
Botley
Bourney
Bracken
Branch
Branfield
Breakstone
Briar
Bridges
Brightstone
Brook
Broom
Broome
Brownbarrow
Brownhill
Brune
Bu
Buckler
Buckwell
Bulwer
Burley
Bush
Bushy
Butterwell
Byrch
Bywater
Cafferen
Cargyll
Caron
Cassel
Casterly
Caswell
Caulfield
Cave
Celtigar
Cerwyn
Chai
Chambers
Charlton
Chelsted
Chester
Choq
Chyttering
Clegane
Clifton
Cobb
Cockshaw
Codd
Coldwater
Cole
Condon
Conklyn
Connington
Corbray
Corbray
Cordwayner
Coststayne
Cox
Crabb
Crakehall
Crane
Cray
Cressey
Crowl
Cupps
Cuy
Dargood
Darke
Darklyn
Darkwood
Darry
Dayne
Deddings
Dhazak
Doggett
Dondarrion
Donniger
Dormand of Dormand Hall
Drinkwater
Drox
Drumm
Dryland
Dults
Dunn
Durrandon
Durwell
Dustin
Edgerton
Egen
Elesham
Elliver
Eraz
Erenford
Errol
Estermont
Estren
Faez
Falwell
Farman
Farring
Farrow
Farwynd
Fell
Fenn
Ferren
Fisher
Flint
Florent
Follard
Foote
Footly
Forrester
Fossoway
Fowler
Foxglove
Fregar
Frey
Frost
Galare
Gardener
Gargalen
Garner
Gaunt
Ghazeen
Glenmore of Rillwater Crossing
Glover
Goodbrook
Goodbrother
Goode
Gower
Graceford
Grafton
Grandison
Graves
Grayson
Greenfield
Greengood
Greenhill
Greenleaf
Greenwood
Grell
Grey
Greyiron
Greyjoy
Greyjoy
Greystark
Grimm
Groves
Haen
Haigh
Hamell
Har
Harclay
Hardy
Hardyng
Harlaw
Harlton of Castlewood
Harroway
Harte
Hastwyck
Hasty
Hawick
Hawthorne
Hayford
Hazkar
Herston
Hersy
Hetherspoon
Hewett
Hightower
Hoare
Hogg
Hollard
Holt
Hook
Hornwood
Horpe
Hull
Humble
Hunt
Hunter
Hutcheson
Inchfield
Ironmaker
Ironsmith
Jar
Jast
Jordayne
Justman
Kandaq
Karstark
Kattleblack
Keath
Kenning
Kidwell
Knott
Kyndall
Ladybright
Lake
Langward
Lannet
Lannister
Lanny
Lansdale
Lantell
Leek
Lefford
Leygood
Liddle
Lightfoot
Lipps
Lo
Locke
Lolliston
Long
Longthorpe
Longwaters
Lonmouth
Loraq
Lorch
Lothston
Lowther
Lyberr
Lychester
Lydden
Lynderly
Magnar
Malcolm
Mallery
Mallister
Manderly
Mandrake
Manning
Manwoody
Marbrand
Marreq
Marsh
Martell
Massey
Mazin
Meadows
Mengo
Merlyn
Merryweather
Mertyns
Middlebury
Mollen
Moore
Mooton
Moreland
Morgryn
Mormont
Morrigen
Moss
Mudd
Mullendore
Musgood
Myatt
Myraq
Myre
Nakloz
Naqqan
Nayland
Netley
Norcross
Norrey
Norridge
Nute
Nutt
Oakheart
Oldflowers
Orkwood
Orme
Osgrey
Otherys
Overton
Paege
Parren
Payne
Peake
Peasebury
Peat
Peckledon
Pemford
Penny
Penrose
Perryn
Phal
Piper
Plumm
Pol
Polander
Pommingham
Poole
Potter
Prestayn
Prester
Pryor
Pyle
Pyne
Qaggaz
Qhoqua
Qo
Qoherys
Qorgyle
Quagg
Quazzar
Rambton
Rankenfell
Redbeard
Redding
Redfort
Redwyne
Reed
Reyann
Reyne
Reznak
Rhaezn
Rhazdar
Rhysling
Risley
Rogare
Rogers
Rollingford
Roote
Rosby
Rowan
Roxton
Royce
Ruskyn
Ruthermont
Ruttiger
Ryder
Ryger
Rykker
Ryswell
Saltcliffe
Santagar
Sarsfield
Sarwyck of Riverspring
Sawyer
Seaworth
Selmy
Serrett
Serry
Sharp
Shawney
Shell
Shepherd
Shermer
Shett
Slate
Sloane
Slynt
Smallwood
Sparr
Spicer
Stackhouse
Stackspear
Staedmon
Stane
Stark
Staunton
Stokeworth
Stonehouse
Stonetree
Stout
Straw
Strickland
Strong
Suggs
Sunderland
Sunderly
Sunglass
Swann
Sweet
Swyft
Swygert
Tallhart
Tarbeck
Targaryen
Tarly
Tarth
Tarwick
Tawney
Teague
Templeton
Terrick
Thenn
Thorne
Toland
Tollett
Torrent
Towers
Toyne
Trant
Tudbury
Tully
Turnberry
Tyrell
Uffering
Uhlez
Uller
Ullor
Umber
Upcliff
Vaith
Vance
Varner
Velaryon
Vikary
Volmark
Vypren
Vyrwel
Wade
Wagstaff
Warrick
Waterman
Waxley
Wayn
Waynwood
Weatherwax
Weaver
Webber
Wells
Wells
Wendwater
Wensington
Westbrook
Westerling
Westford
Whent
Whitehead
Whitehill
Whitfield
Wibberley
Willum
Wode
Woodfoot
Woodhull
Woods
Woodwright
Woolfield
Wormwood
Wull
Wydmen
Wyl
Wylde
Wynch
Wythers
Xaq
Xho
Yarwyck
Yelshire
Yew
Yherizan
Yronwood
Yunzak
Zhak
Zherzyn
#game of thrones#asoiaf#house stark#house martell#house greyjoy#house of the dragon#house baratheon#house lannister#house arryn#house tully#essos#the golden city of Yiti
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Friends, enemies, comrades, Jacobins, Monarchist, Bonapartists, gather round. We have an important announcement:
The continent is beset with war. A tenacious general from Corsica has ignited conflict from Madrid to Moscow and made ancient dynasties tremble. Depending on your particular political leanings, this is either the triumph of a great man out of the chaos of The Terror, a betrayal of the values of the French Revolution, or the rule of the greatest upstart tyrant since Caesar.
But, our grand tournament is here to ask the most important question: Now that the flower of European nobility is arrayed on the battlefield in the sexiest uniforms that European history has yet produced (or indeed, may ever produce), who is the most fuckable?
The bracket is here: full bracket and just quadrant I
Want to nominate someone from the Western Hemisphere who was involved in the ever so sexy dismantling of the Spanish empire? (or the Portuguese or French American colonies as well) You can do it here
The People have created this list of nominees:
France:
Jean Lannes
Josephine de Beauharnais
Thérésa Tallien
Jean-Andoche Junot
Joseph Fouché
Charles Maurice de Talleyrand
Joachim Murat
Michel Ney
Jean-Baptiste Bernadotte (Charles XIV of Sweden)
Louis-Francois Lejeune
Pierre Jacques Ătienne Cambrinne
Napoleon I
Marshal Louis-Gabriel Suchet
Jacques de Trobriand
Jean de dieu soult.
François-Ătienne-Christophe Kellermann
17.Louis Davout
Pauline Bonaparte, Duchess of Guastalla
EugĂšne de Beauharnais
Jean-Baptiste BessiĂšres
Antoine-Jean Gros
JĂ©rĂŽme Bonaparte
Andrea Masséna
Antoine Charles Louis de Lasalle
Germaine de Staël
Thomas-Alexandre Dumas
René de Traviere (The Purple Mask)
Claude Victor Perrin
Laurent de Gouvion Saint-Cyr
François Joseph Lefebvre
Major Andre Cotard (Hornblower Series)
Edouard Mortier
Hippolyte Charles
Nicolas Charles Oudinot
Emmanuel de Grouchy
Pierre-Charles Villeneuve
GĂ©raud Duroc
Georges Pontmercy (Les Mis)
Auguste Frédéric Louis Viesse de Marmont
Juliette RĂ©camier
Bon-Adrien Jeannot de Moncey
Louis-Alexandre Berthier
Ătienne Jacques-Joseph-Alexandre Macdonald
Jean-Mathieu-Philibert SĂ©rurier
Catherine Dominique de PĂ©rignon
Guillaume Marie-Anne Brune
Jean-Baptiste Jourdan
Charles-Pierre Augereau
Auguste François-Marie de Colbert-Chabanais
England:
Richard Sharpe (The Sharpe Series)
Tom Pullings (Master and Commander)
Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington
Jonathan Strange (Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell)
Captain Jack Aubrey (Aubrey/Maturin books)
Horatio Hornblower (the Hornblower Books)
William Laurence (The Temeraire Series)
Henry Paget, 1st Marquess of Anglesey
Beau Brummell
Emma, Lady Hamilton
Benjamin Bathurst
Horatio Nelson
Admiral Edward Pellew
Sir Philip Bowes Vere Broke
Sidney Smith
Percy Smythe, 6th Viscount Strangford
George IV
Capt. Anthony Trumbull (The Pride and the Passion)
Barbara Childe (An Infamous Army)
Doctor Maturin (Aubrey/Maturin books)
William Pitt the Younger
Robert Stewart, 2nd Marquess of Londonderry (Lord Castlereagh)
George Canning
Scotland:
Thomas Cochrane
Colquhoun Grant
Ireland:
Arthur O'Connor
Thomas Russell
Robert Emmet
Austria:
Klemens von Metternich
Friedrich Bianchi, Duke of Casalanza
Franz I/II
Archduke Karl
Marie Louise
Franz Grillparzer
Wilhelmine von Biron
Poland:
Wincenty KrasiĆski
JĂłzef Antoni Poniatowski
JĂłzef ZajÄ
czek
Maria Walewska
WĆadysĆaw Franciszek JabĆonowski
Adam Jerzy Czartoryski
Antoni Amilkar KosiĆski
Zofia Czartoryska-Zamoyska
Stanislaw Kurcyusz
Russia:
Alexander I Pavlovich
Alexander Andreevich Durov
Prince Andrei (War and Peace)
Pyotr Bagration
Mikhail Miloradovich
Levin August von Bennigsen
Pavel Stroganov
Empress Elizabeth Alexeievna
Karl Wilhelm von Toll
Dmitri Kuruta
Alexander Alexeevich Tuchkov
Barclay de Tolly
Fyodor Grigorevich Gogel
Ekaterina Pavlovna Bagration
Ippolit Kuragin (War and Peace)
Prussia:
Louise von Mecklenburg-Strelitz
Gebard von BlĂŒcher
Carl von Clausewitz
Frederick William III
Gerhard von Scharnhorst
Louis Ferdinand of Prussia
Friederike of Mecklenburg-Strelitz
Alexander von Humboldt
Dorothea von Biron
The Netherlands:
Ida St Elme
Wiliam, Prince of Orange
The Papal States:
Pius VII
Portugal:
JoĂŁo Severiano Maciel da Costa
Spain:
Juan MartĂn DĂez
José de Palafox
InĂȘs Bilbatua (Goya's Ghosts)
Haiti:
Alexandre PĂ©tion
Sardinia:
Vittorio Emanuele I
Lombardy:
Alessandro Manzoni
Denmark:
Frederik VI
Sweden:
Gustav IV Adolph
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alright things i liked
baela pointing out that jace is not the first bastard to inherit a seat that isnât his by blood. that was a fun convo and i loved the back and forth and i love that she comes at it like âwhy are you moping do you think youâre the only bastard in the fucking worldâ and jace is like barely able to argue his point that LIVING that reality is so much more draining than she realizes, heâs too busy daydreaming about strangling ulf to death over the kitchen table.
everything helaena did. sensing daemon is having a dragon dream and using it to get him back to rhaenyraâs side, the way she really was listening to alicentâs idea about running away to essos together, letting her mother speak her piece in her defense, then going out onto the balcony knowing aemond is going to corner her and giving him the dressing down of his LIFE while he cries, all very good.
abigail thorne. omg. am i mad sheâs not sabitha frey? yes. was she still hilarious? also yes.
ESSOSI OUTFITS THAT LOOK GOOD. WE GOT BLUE HAIR FOLKS!!!!
ulf and hugh and addam. trying to find their place, trying to bond with their dragons and each other, unsure of their footing. addam looked ready to turn to goo in his chair. hugh wincing at every âlowbornâ quirk ulf has. ulf going ham on acting like ulf bc heâs nervous & telling jokes to cover it. loved it.
alys alys alys. crying at daemonâs bedside at whatâs to come, at what sheâs going to face next. do you think she saw simonâs death and wept for her silly uncle. does she grieve her cousins before they have even died. does she weep at daemons bedside knowing sheâs leading him to his end.
larys and aegon. the whole scene was so good, the way larys is really trying to convince aegon to leave & fight another day and he has like a VERY solid plan but aegon is so completely shaken up bc he just had no idea aemond hated him that much, this is just what love is to him, is this constant push pull of humiliation and abuse that hes still as blind as he was when he was a child to the way his actions affect aemond.
alfred brune just nervously disappearing into the crowd after Daemon gets everyone singing âgod save the queenâ is so fucking funny. man is like âoh i misread that one HARDCORE i am about to get ate by a fucjing DRAGON while those two watch and fuck nastyâ his ass is GRASS lmao
things that were booty, ass even
every single scene helaena had should have come earlier in the season. thereâs no reason alicent & helaena couldnât have had this convo in the last episode instead of alicent fucking off to the godswood for a swim.
i think itâs fine In Theory that alicent goes to rhaenyra and basically surrenders. sheâs been shut out of power, sheâs lost control of aemond, sheâs terrified for helaenaâs safety, and otto who was her rock & partner in all things has been gone for a long while. sheâs floundering, her shitty boyfriends have abandoned her, she thinks her only shot is to work out a surrender with rhaenyra. COMMA BUT. caving to rhaenyra saying âiâm gonna have to execute aegonâ was dumb & ooc. iâm tired of all these little trips between KL and dragonstone. i think that confrontation lacked a lot of punch, alicent was FAR too calm. idek what theyâre doing w alicentâs reactions half the time tbh, this feels once again like being unable to let an actress just look ugly for a minute. even during a scene where she should ostensibly be nervous and freaking out, she looks immaculate & prettily distressed. iâm very much over it esp with how often weâve seen rhaenyra look banged up or windswept or tired or whatever this season.
officially fridging marilda just takes so much intrigue out of the hull boys & alyn specifically. marilda is the only baseborn or lowborn character we get in the book that isnât shit talked and this is likely due to alyn making SURE his mother is respected. to cut all of that forâŠ.what? more manpain? unacceptable.
pls tell me why tyland gets more haha jokey scenes than baela and rhaena get for any scenes at all. baela fights and SURVIVES the last dragon battle in westeros. rhaena is the last dragon rider until dany. they are powerful political forces just as their grandparents and parents. but they just do NOTHING it is so FRUSTRATING.
in theory iâm fine with aegon thinking sunfyre is dead and then finding out heâs alive bc sunfyre has come to rescue him from something. but if sunfyre doesnât show up WAY EARLIER than the swan dive, if they CUT SOMEHOW THE SWAN DIVE and we donât get to see aegon snot-crying and screaming as he holds baelaâs burnt open face against a headstone and screams that heâs going to kill her for killing sunfyre while sheâs glaring and daring him to fucking do it then, you all will never know peace from me. i will literally never stop bitching i will become the most annoying poster on this website i will find condal and hess and i will-
all build up and for WHAT. did they forget that even tho s6 ended with a bunch of shots of peopleâs armies moving there was an entire fucking battle that happened and then cersei committed religious terrorism??!!!
OH SO WE KEEP YAPPIN ABOUT DAERON ALL FUCKING SEASON JUST THIS RANDOM ASS FOURTH CHILD THAT WE DIDNT HEAR ABOUT ONCE LAST SEASON, AND ALL WE SAW WAS THAT TWO SECOND SCENE OF TESSARION FROM THE TEASER??
AND WE DONT EVEN SEE DREAMFYRE??
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Reading posts about how marrying Sansa is going to be a reward for Jon Snow...
If these shippers had actually read the Jon and Sansa POV chapters in the books they would realize just how incompatible these two characters are. Reading fanfiction and made up headcanons disguised as 'meta' does not equate to the actual story and characters of the books.
Jon Snow would consider it a punishment to marry Sansa and vice versa. A Jon/Sansa marriage would basically be another Stannis/Selyse marriage.
Sansa was matchmaking Mya Stone with a much older, low born, 'not handsome' (in Sansa's opinion) freerider like Lothor Brune because, as a bastard, that's all Mya qualifies for in Sansa's eyes. As of the most recent book, Sansa would be shocked and disgusted if anyone tries to marry her off to a bastard. Over 5 books she hasn't shown the slightest bit of class consciousness. She would never mingle with Jon's friends at the Wall - Crows and Freefolk included - the way someone like Arya or Dany would.
Jon Snow in turn would treat her opinions with the same disdain he showed Selyse's ideas of decorum and his deputies' bigotry. He already has no patience for and scoffs at the songs and stories about valiant knights rescuing damsels in distress.
And by the way, do Jonsa shippers understand that Sansa is a distant last when it comes to Jon's affection and love for the Starks in the books?
After calling Arya his heart and his home, breaking his sworn oaths and dying to save her from a forced marriage in the most recent book - one of his last dying thoughts being of Arya - do Jonsa shippers really think that Sansa is going to suddenly and randomly supersede Jon's unconditional love and care for Arya in book 6?
What is it it about Sansa that is supposedly different now and which is going to change Jon's entire character, personality, relationships and motives - consistent over 5 books - to randomly be like - 'Oh I love Sansa now! She's the love of my life! Arya who?'
I am going to therefore assume that Jonsa shippers wanting Jon and Sansa to marry are okay with Arya always being number one in Jon's heart and affections when it comes to the Starks. Because that's how it is in the books and it's so very clear to anyone who has read the books.
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