#black knight captain Huw

[subzeroparade]

In the dlc gameplay trailer, we see a boss version of Huw placed in Rellana's arena. Which of my two brain cells should I side with: the one that believes Huw used to drop by for a spar or two with Rellana because… reasons (¬‿¬ ), or the one convinced that a Black Knight character was meant to be the Sword of Messmer at some point? 🧠😂

I am on board with huw and rellana sparring. not even for legitimate combat reasons, but for the MOST petty shit - like who gets to walk the battlements with messmer or sit next to him at dinner, or other utterly inconsequential things.

I also think rellana matches messmer's freakish height, so any sparring with huw involves a comical height difference.

do you see my vision anon

[largemandrill]

I made another one

[littlezas]

messmer and huw 091124

[sanaez214]

Elden Ring fan art. A heartbreaking story of friendship between Messmer and Huw... P.S. I want to make something different between Huw and Andreas, so I draw beard for Andreas

[ladydemonade]

"Be grateful for Sir Messmer's mercy, had I found thee first there would be no remains left to honor."

Messmer and Hoslow after the rebellion

[serpentabyssal]

Chapters: 1/5? Fandom: Elden Ring (Video Game) Rating: Mature Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings Relationships: Black Knight Captain Huw/Messmer the Impaler (Elden Ring) Characters: Messmer the Impaler (Elden Ring), Black Knight Captain Huw (Elden Ring) Additional Tags: Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree DLC Spoilers Summary:

“ 𝘖 𝘭𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵𝘭𝘦𝘴𝘴 𝘤𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘦... 𝘌𝘮𝘣𝘳𝘢𝘤𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦 𝘰𝘣𝘭𝘪𝘷𝘪𝘰𝘯, 𝘢𝘴 𝘴𝘩𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘐. ”

The Tarnished has fallen, but at no small price. Where does the son of Marika go to confront his fate now?

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the plan is 5 chapters. there will be flashbacks ( which might get a little sexy? )

[huwmessmer]

hi this is a blog for saving all the huw x messmer goodness around tumblr etc

01 recs welcome ! 02 no hate for other ships please 03 let me know if you would like your content removed and i will do that when i see it

thank you and have a good day!

[mytypeismohg]

I like believing the omen twins both have beej referenced in the dlc. Mohg is very obviously present, even if he is not physically there. The bloodfiends, Ansbach, the dlc is very much about all the old horned beasts, those hated by the Golden Order. The hanging giant figure in the shadowkeep looks very suspiciously similar to Morgott, despite him also tragically being long gone. However, I also noticed how much Messmer’s behavior resembles Morgott. Both are self hating "cursed" people that fight for an order that shuns them, and are brainwashed into hating others who are seen the same way they are. Messmer hates his fire, Morgott hates his accursed blood powers.

Just like with captain Huw and Andreas betraying Messmer-

"Ashen remains in which spirits yet dwell. Use to summon the spirit of Huw, Knight-Captain of the Black Knights. The Black Knights were the primary force of Messmer's army. Second to their first Knight-Commander was Huw, a man with agile command of both twinblade techniques and the powers of the Crucible, and whose spirit in these ashes dwells. Though a champion of the divine beast hunt, he followed his father, Andreas, into rebellion against Messmer, and like his father, he too was imprisoned in an underground tomb. Messmer mourned the loss of a brother-in-arms."

-there was also a cut questline involving a "loyal" follower that betrays Morgott, once he discovers he is an Omen. Viscount Shaneheight, you can watch his full cut quest by Sekiro Dubi on YouTube. He wants to destroy the omens I'm the Subterranean Shunning Grounds in Leyndel, is basically a Morgott fanboy...until he discovers he too is cursed. I wonder if Morgott could witness the damage caused by Messmer, he would see himself inside him. Wonder if he would become this cruel if he stayed his path, and then seeing the many people of this period who would've loved and respected him. He could see how Messmer, no matter what he did, was left behind by the Golden Order as well. Despite Messmer claiming to fight for Marika, the only ones loyal to him are all now without "Marika's grace", and Messmer has essentially created his own Order, his own army, none of which are honored by the Golden Order, but he delusionally believes otherwise. Morgott could make his own family, among the surviving Hornsent maybe, similar to how his twin brother chose to do. Find your own wings, Morgott.

[goattypegirl]

In the sense that it's full of looted artifacts from Enir-Ilim and Belarut and the mounted bodies of divine beasts killed in hunts by Messmer's forces*, I'm not like spooked by taxidermy in general.

This is in reaction to a specific reddit post about Messmer and specifically highlighted the specimen storehouse as a good thing he did, because it was a "huge library of documents and specimens for research and study".

Like the darker sides and origins of archeology and anthropology irl are present in game right? I'm not making shit up?

*see the Black Knight Captain Huw and Fire Knight Hilde ashes

The Specimen Storehouse is fucking insidious, right? I'm not the only one disturbed by it?

[largemandrill]

Alrighty girlies, I won’t let us ignore him any longer.

This guy. This fucking guy. He’s a great summon, good health, AMAZING damage, and most importantly: Messmer lore.

WARNING: This joke post got super out of control. Get ready for a mini-essay below

He was second in command to his commander father, Andreas. Both served Messmer until Andreas discovered his “serpentine nature”, this lead to a rebellion that the commander led. Naturally, his son follows him to the end, that end being imprisoned deep within a catacomb. All pretty standard lore, shows that Messmer’s troupes weren’t entirely cool with the genocide they were doing. What I want to talk about is this line that is only on Huw’s description, and not his father’s.

“Messmer mourned the loss of a brother-in-arms”

If this line was on both Ashes, I would assume that Messmer mourned the lost men in the rebellion, despite their betrayal. Yet it’s only present on the captain’s description, not the man who led the rebellion in the first place. You know damn well what I’m about to do with this.

The main reason I’m jumping straight to “they were probably like a little gay” and not that Messmer was close to the leader of his main offensive force is the fact that Huw is a second in command. I would assume that a lord would have a better bond with the lead commander, there are less steps of hierarchy in between their positions. Messmer would have also known Andreas longer, (Let’s be real Huw got that position via nepotism) thus there would be higher familiarity.

What should also be mentioned is that Messmer’s feelings about others (excluding his mother) are hardly lingered on. Rellana was his sword, yet we only know her motives, not his. He was friends with Gaius due to both of them being cursed and also being mentor figures for Radahn, but there’s much more about Gaius and Radahn’s bond than between him and Messmer. This is the only (?) time that Messmer’s feelings on the matter are mentioned so bluntly. “Comrade-in-arms” in the context of Elden Ring is used much more frequently. If I remember correctly, this is what Freyja calls you if you summon her for the Dancing Lion. I’d argue that using brother is a signifier of a deeper relationship. To view someone not as an ally but as family, someone you couldn’t live without, a loved one. There’s also the fact that it’s mentioned that Huw followed his father. That reads like he was hesitant to betray Messmer, but his blood came before any affection he had for his Liege. Isn’t that the most classic of Tragedy? To choose your flesh and blood over your heart’s greatest desire? I’d hate to get poetic here, but the story writes itself.

Huw’s coffin was more beautifully decorated than that of his father. There were active guards, flowers, the room was larger. It’s quite gaudy when compared to Andreas’ open coffin in what could be described as a closet when it comes to size comparison. One was buried like a champion, beloved by a lord. The other buried with minimum respect given his status, but with the bitterness of betrayal.

Brother-in-arms.

[littlezas]

i did a miserable huw x messmer mix based on things written and things being wrote... – listen on youtube

[littlezas]

im still working on this messmer and huw piece yes

[littlezas]

wip of messy and huw having a post battle celebratory drink and chat

[subzeroparade]

*flying in on the wings after finishing chapter 11* If I were a big artist, I would've been the most insufferable Huw/Messmer propagandist ever. I would've drawn legions to their church 😂 (It's actually a subsidiary of Messmer's harem church, but shhhh - Huw would be one of the top two waifus in there. Or husbandos. Whichever one prefer.) Hope you don’t mind me asking - how did you discover the ship, and how did they end up in the outline of your fic in their final glorious form? 😌

Anon you do not need to be a "big artist" to make and enjoy your own propaganda. Make whatever you want forever (◕‿◕) When I lay down to die I do not intend for one of my last regrets to be “damn, I wish I’d made more niche cringe art that brought me personal satisfaction and served as a joyful escape from the crushing realities of life.”

As to how I “discovered” the ship, it just seemed to me the most (canonically) compelling way to contrast, in writing, the intimacy and eventual breakdown of Messmer’s familial situation (himself, Melina, Marika) with his navigation of the world beyond that (and who else might serve as an influence/conduit for his actions and worldview). It’s one of the more interesting implied facets of his character: that while he is cursed and eventually abandoned, his armies are/were loyal to him to the point of accepting eternity in a forsaken realm to see their duty done. This also makes any kind of rebellion/betrayal starker and more intriguing.  

To be obvious, devotion -> betrayal is incredible scaffolding already over which to build the progression of a relationship - which can then further explore all these junctures of loyalty, subservience, camaraderie, intimacy, and so on. 

And that Messmer is betrayed by someone close enough to him personally that he is canonically remorseful about it: there was already nuance, but now there are STAKES. Warlord doesn’t think twice about his quotidian genocidal crusade, but he is upset that a subordinate left him on read. Also, power dynamic. 

And that is why, despite not being a “big artist”, I am in my corner making them kiss.

[subzeroparade]

This is the backflip anon! There were no puns, just my excited bubbling. I hope it didn't come off as rude or anything. Thanks so much for taking the time to reply and for the drawing! Unshaved Huw looks so handsome 😳 – I was not prepared to feel shy.

you didn't come off as rude at all, Backflip Anon, do not worry. I appreciate the message very much •ᴗ• among other things it keeps me picking up my pen and doodling them when I should be doing other things.

[subzeroparade]

I also wanted to say I was so happy when I read chapter 5 and turned out that we see Huw very similar in appearance: short dark/black hair, dark eyes. Once I saw someone drew him blond or ashen with a Sephiroth-like long mane and my thoughts were like "you do you sister but for me, personally, naaaaaaaaah" haha.

ty! obviously to each their own, but i like the contrast of Huw being exceedingly normal/grounded in appearance (and class) vs Messmer’s distinct red rattle-boned god-mom’s precious fiery snek boy silhouette.