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Me, extremely casually, as if I'm describing the weather: Unfortunately, my bio parent has been dead for almost a decade. They passed almost immediately before I was going to meet them and I still have a lot of Feelings about that. I'd love to be able to have a "reaffirming" ""reunion"" story about having met my bio parent in person, to determine how I truly feel about them and the terms I use for them personally in the end, but it's never going to happen and I'm still not sure I even wanted it to. Please leave me be in peace.
#koushirouizumi personal#koushirouizumi posts#koushirouizumi fam#koushirouizumi bio fam#koushirouizumi bio parent#bio parent tag#bionormative assumptions#im really done tonight#this is why i dont answer questions about my background to strangers who arent even in this fan base#its even worse if they are in the fan base & can literally never shut up abt how much they hate koushiros personality &involvements anyway
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Someone @ Koushiro Izumi: How many kids do you have??? Koushiro: ""BIOLOGICALLY"", emotionally, or legally?
#izumi koushiro#izumi koushirou#koushiro izumi#izumi family#izzy izumi#koushiro izzy izumi#adopted koushiro#koushiros child#repeat koutai#taichis child#epilogue koushiro#koushiro vs bionormativity#koushiro vs bionormative assumptions#source: incorrect quote generator#(I *just* saw this quote on another blog and)#(Koushiro Voice ' Please ... Stop Asking Me This ')#(YEAHTM)#(Anyway in my verses Taichis child among others DO hang at Izumis places often and theres nothing anyone can say to change my mind bYE)#kai yagami#oc: kai#oc: kai yagami
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{Major Implied} #TheBeginningSpoilers #The Beginning Spoilers
('The Beginning' initial rambling under 'read more') {Note: This is some of my reaction BEFORE Seeing} [So please note I Will Add Additional Contexts I got later but for the most part...]
THIS IS THE CLIP I was Referring to in advance {WARNING FOR} MAJOR RUI-INVOLVED The Beginning Spoilers (I was talking to a mutual who gave me a run-down review)
(If you can't tell, I was Venting at concepts like infertile parents being treated/handled as a potential) Negative
Further Reading: Koushiro's + Izumi Family's Timeline {Notes} in Hikarigaoka
*I mention something towards end but I was mis-remembering what it was called and it's more like 'premature birth' that leads to "early" death... {And yes we've even had this happen in my ancestors' pasts too, notably on my Grandpa-married-to-J E W I S H-grandma ends' end. Grandpa E.'s youngest sibling {not even a year old} passed that way, along with the child of a cousin + their fam much later on, and they (both) have dedicated spots in our familys' plot, also very near where my J e w i s h Grandma is now buried. ... So I Have Feelings on Such Issues, Too.}
#koushirouizumi digiadvs#koushirouizumi advs#koushirouizumi 02#koushirouizumi d02tb#koushirouizumi commentary#izumi family#izumi kae#mrs izumi#02 timeline issues#the beginning commentary#thebeginningspoilers#thebeginningspoiler#the beginning spoiler#advs timeline issues#(DO NOT Watch the clip in advance if you do not want BIG NOTABLE RUI SPOILERS)#(WARNING: Imagery of the clip can be very triggery even if even more directly plot involved scenes happen much later past that clip)#(CAN SOMEONE PLEASE. PLEASE. Try to Genuinely Get what I'm aiming at here and I was rambling about INITIAL impressions of Semantics)#(ill recompile these Thoughts much later on but everyone else is dropping theirs too and I NEED to Vent about these things before i EXPLODE#(Laughs In 'Not Related To A Whole Side of my Fam by Blood---' and 'Discussion of {Bionormativity} or Bionormative Assumptions')#(NOT Making this re bloggable for now Sorry)
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Me, into my Void: You people do know what I mean by "Donor conceived", right? M E: You DO Know what I actually mean when I refer to that term rIGHT?.....
#koushirouizumi fam#koushirouizumi personal#koushirouizumi vents#koushirouizumi no rb#koushirouizumi personal vents#donor child tag#(.....)#(I saw a kind of really weird comment on Twit today)#(This Is A Vent But)#(Me '... Ppl DO know what I or anyone else mean when we use this term right???')#(I'm probably just imagining things but.......)#(Me 'You all DO KNOW it can mean when you're not biologically related to one parent but you are part biological to the other rIGHT.....')#('And that donor conceived ppl are like Human BeingsTM too.........')#(Every So Often I See Very Clearly Uninformed Things On Twit That really Make me Wonder)#(Like gddamn I'd LIKE to Talk about Personal ThingsTM more)#(but then I run into the possible assumptions that there are people out there that like)#(think people who aren't fully biological to both parents are ~~abnormal~~ or.... something????)#just bionormativity things#(Bonus: They're fans of a series IN WHICH Koushiro Exists)
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Some @bleist: V@ccines probably caused your @utism Me: That's funny, I wasn't aware you have knowledge of my entire medical history from when I grew up until now--- That Someone, Probably: I mean, if it was partly 'genetic', partly 'environmental', you'd have gotten some of it from your /p arENT{S}/, right? Like your Dad. But your /dAD/ ISN'T a UTISTIC!!1! (*Ignores that I've told people virtually nothing abt if anyone in my fam is N.D. or not, too*) Me: Me: Me: :) Me: (They Don't Know Sh*t)
#actuallyaut#actuallynonnormativefamily#koushirouizumi posts#koushirouizumi vents#koushirouizumi fam#dad tag#me vs bionormativity#(Koushiro Voice 'Please stop with the Bio normative Assumptions')#koushirouizumi no rb#koushirouizumi no rb posts
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This article (from Dec 2003) has some bio-normative language and such, but it's still relevant to topics I talk about here.
#koushirouizumi ref#koushirouizumi advs 02#koushirouizumi 02#koushirouizumi koushiro#koushirouizumi advs#donor child ref#timeline: 2003#(I need to go digging for refs again but this was one of the best I found back then in terms of explaining some Issues)#(At the same time there was some definite awareness in 2003)#(Which is really interesting to me so I'm posting this for my own reference too)#(I'm getting really tired of Ppl insisting at me that 'Toei would have no idea about these concepts in 2002~2003!!!1!')#(Anyway Coming Back To These Issues Later)#(including about the bio normative language used but this was written in 2003)#koushirouizumi no rb#koushirouizumi no rb posts#(Basically Take Some Things Here with a grain of salt but the statistics and such are interesting)#actuallynonnormativefamily#(Im DEFINITELY Tired of the constant bionormative assumptions and Hot Takes TM that Toei wouldnt know about it IN 2K22)#(Just To Say)#(Or the absolute sheer insistence that Toei would never want to properly represent other non normative family styles in 2k22)#(Or that we can never talk about these topics in relation to Advs and 02 at all 'because reasons')#(Hi Keep Those Takes Away From Me 4ever PlskThx Bye)
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Digimon Adventure ~ Japanese version Koushiro{u} Izumi with bonus Izumi family ~ {Personal} Top Favorite Digimon Characters + All-Time Favorite Characters ~ as Canonical Adopted Representation + Supported by Koushiro’s Parents
“You don’t have to change yourself for us.”
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Further reading: on Bionormative assumptions [x] (If you want to know what that means, look there!)
Original Poster’s [Mine] Notes: The original entire adoption scene with the original contexts. Koushiro is talking with a soft tone near the beginning. When Mr. Izumi speaks up to say “There is nothing wrong with being into computers!” Masami speaks it in a raised/INSISTENT tone that causes Koushiro surprise.
And, as someone who is NOT biologically related ““by blood”” to one of MY OWN parents, This scene has always been incredibly important to me and I seriously wish this fan-base would consider the importance of this entire scene* (*and NOT picking and choosing lines from it) before they speak on Koushiro Izumi’s character arcs in the WHOLE canon. Because, - Yes, Koushiro counts as canonical Adopted representation; - Yes, Adopted representation and representation of non normative families; is and always will be important.
This post is also not meant to dismiss the U.S. dub’s version and in fact, I think there are things it actually did better for the U.S. audience when it came to localization. This post is already too long, so I am saving that commentary for now. Please do not use this post or my gifs for anti-dub arguments. (I will only hard-block you if you try.)
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BONUS: {Further contexts from 02 onwards}
[Koushiro uses “Arigato[u]” {casual} notably in dialogue or, the TV version’s scripts for the first time here Instead of the more formal “Arigato[u] gozaimas[u]”. In the adoption scene, Koushiro starts out with the latter before hesitantly correcting himself with “A... Arigato[u]”.]
Koushiro is particularly known for using “textbook”-like Somewhat formal (polite) speech in the Japanese version. This is shown (Consistently) all through Adventure, 02, the various post-02 spinoff materials, and yes, even the whole of tri., the mid-tri. (timeline-wise) official stage-play, Kizuna, etc.
[In tri, it was their wedding anniversary.] (It is heavily implied Koushiro is helping to place the order for their meals as they are at a fancy French restauraunt. When the waiter speaks in French; the Izumis {Japanese} don’t seem to understand the French that Koushiro uses on the phone as he speaks to Sora. (Koushiro had begun to study French) Koushiro then takes a moment to order for Koushiro’s mother (while making obvious excuses to Sora).]
[Kyousei (Movie #5); Koushiro calling home.]
[Kyousei (Movie #5); Koushiro calling home.] (Implied Koushiro’s speaking to them pleasantly, as a calm grin is on his face. The audience cannot hear the conversation, likely intended for dramatic effect.) (Sometimes, you don’t NEED words.)
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#digimon adventure#digimon adventure 02#digimon adventure tri#koushiro izumi#yoshie izumi#kae izumi#masami izumi#izumi family#izzyizumi posts#izzyizumi gifs#izzyizumi tri gifs#izzyizumi adv gifs#izzyizumi 02 gifs#02 koushiro#koushiros formal speech#koushiro and computers#koushiro and verbalizing#koushiro vs bionormativity#(Yes I Have Seen The Sub And I Will Point These Things Out)#(Genuinely these gifs take me forever to compile so if you CANT be respectful)#(MOVE ON ThankYou because this is a POSITIVITY post about Non Normative Families and you can either respect that or Leave)
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