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edwinspaynes · 22 days ago
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Okay. To supplement the women one tag 12 CANONICALLY queer characters you love. For funsies
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checkoutmybookshelf · 9 months ago
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I'm Sorry, You Packed HOW MANY Tropes into that Hoopskirt???
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So...I'd be lying if I tried to tell you that I picked up this book for any reason other than the big poofy 1850s ball gowns on the cover. I'd also be lying if I said I had any expectations beyond cute, fluffy, wlw romance.
Then we got stuck into the book and suddenly I was like...I'm sorry, this cover did not prepare me for the ANGST and GROUNDING and WEIGHT and POLITICAL DIMENSIONS of this book. Not to mention that it manages to pack a metric ton of tropes into not that long a book, including but not limited to second-chance romance, parent trapping, friends-to-lovers, and the power of friendship. AND it's LGBTQIA+. I was not expecting to cry over this book, but here we are. Let's talk Don't Want You Like a Best Friend.
This is your SPOILER WARNING because I'm running on three hours of sleep and don't believe for a second that I'm not going to be randomly tossing SPOILERS all over the place. Be warned.
Oh, and this is a CONTENT WARNING for marital and domestic abuse. For both this book and this review.
Gwen is a debutante in her fourth season with no interest in marriage and the biggest rake of a father in London.
Beth is a first-season debutante on a mission to marry well, because her cousin is repossessing her and her mother's house at the end of the season and they will be homeless and penniless.
So naturally they plot to get Gwen's dad and Beth's mom together.
This is not as wild as it seems, because before Lady Demeroven's father forced her to marry Beth's dad (who is both an abusive asshole and thankfully super dead), she was deeply in love with Dashiell Havenfort. When she broke his heart. Lord Havenfort went off, got drunk, partied, and then there was Gwen--who he raised as a single dad because Gwen's mother died in childbirth.
So we have that little powder keg to begin the story, and it's set against the increasingly critical backdrop of Havenfort and the father of the aggressively vanilla boy who decides to marry Beth (yeah, they have names, I don't care. It's vanilla boy and his dickhead dad from here on in) going toe-to-toe in parliament trying to pass and prevent, respectively, a piece of legislation that would allow women to divorce their husbands for reasons other than being beaten bloody. This really underscores the situation that Beth and her mother had been in, and the one that they might be in again if Beth goes through with the marriage to vanilla boy. Thankfully she doesn't, but honestly, the number of men just waltzing around in this world going "women are property and I should be able to beat the snot out of them if I want to" was really depressing. And that depression just intensified when Beth and Gwen finally realized they wanted a sapphic relationship with each other.
The patriarchy sucks, guys. So hard.
Watching Beth and Gwen try to parent trap their respective parents was a lot of fun, and once they realized what they wanted, their relationship was also fun. That's not to say that the book was perfectly executed, though. The first half of the book is slooooooooooooow. Like slow enough that I considered DNFing the book. I'm glad I didn't, because once the "Oh, I'm sapphic" realization hits, the angst of being sapphic in a patriarchal world where marriage was women's only real hope of financial stability hit true and hard. Trying to find another way to live in a world that didn't want you to exist was really interesting.
The other thing that I wasn't a fan of--and your mileage may vary--was that while the setting and politics and fashion were extremely well-grounded in the 1850s, the character dialogue and language is jarringly modern. At one point, someone said to "put that energy out to the world" and I just had to put the book down for a minute and take a few deep breaths. So depending on how real-feeling you want the history part of this historical romance to feel, your mileage may vary with the language.
Now, the thing that I truly loved about this book is that is faces abuse and its effects full in the face, and refuses to continue a cycle of abuse. The MCA passes, and then women help each other recover and get out of abusive situations. Lady Demeroven's first marriage was abusive and violent, although she hid the extent of it from Beth. She tries to ensure that Beth ends up with a man who will be kind to her, and vanilla boy might have been...but his dickhead dad wouldn't have been, and dickhead dad might have influenced vanilla boy to become abusive. Lady Demeroven ultimately refuses to allow either the cycle of accepting abuse or the cycle of abusive men teaching their sons that abuse is acceptable or *shudder* somehow their marital duty. Lady Demeroven goes on a whole journey to heal her own trauma enough to stop the cycle and protect Beth, and she does. She shuts that shit down, and they walk.
Like the door slam in the Tenant of Wildfell Hall, the door slamming behind Lady and Beth Demeroven heralds freedom and happiness. It is the end of a cycle that devalues women and that tells other women that they can make a different choice. And this book does it gently, acknowledging that doing so is HARD, and it takes courage and help and support. Honestly, I was SO HERE for Lady Demeroven's journey and her finding happiness with Dashiell at the end of the book.
Overall, this was not a perfect book. There were pacing and execution issues, and Lady Demeroven and Lord Havenfort kind of steal the show from their daughters' romance. But this book had THINGS TO SAY, and those things are important to say, and perhaps say even more loudly now in 2024 than they were back in the Victorian era. So this book was fun, it had clear things to say, and honestly it was a fun read.
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ash-and-books · 11 months ago
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Rating: 2/5
Book Blurb: The enemies-to-lovers queer Victorian romance follow-up to Don’t Want You Like a Best Friend, in which a young lord and a second son clash, but find themselves thrust together again and again by their meddling cousins.
“That man is, without a doubt, the absolute most obnoxious…
Bobby Mason is sick of being second best: born the spare, never trusted with family responsibility, never expected to amount to much. He’s hungry to contribute something that matters, while all around him his peers are squandering their political and financial power, coasting through life. Which is exactly why he can’t stand the new Viscount Demeroven.
…insufferable…
James Demeroven, just come of age and into the Viscountcy, knows that he’s a disappointment. Keeping his head down and never raising anyone’s expectations is how he’s survived life with his stepfather. To quiet, careful James, Bobby Mason is a blazing comet in his endless night, even more alive than he was at Oxford when James crushed on him from afar. But Mason is also brash and recklessly unapologetic, destined to shatter the fragile safety of James’s world. Worst of all, he keeps rubbing James’s failures in his face.
…hottest man to ever walk the ton.”
They can barely get through a single conversation without tensions boiling over. Neither Bobby nor James has ever met a more intriguing, infuriating, infatuating man.
If only they could avoid each other entirely. Bad enough their (wonderful but determined) cousins Beth and Gwen keep conveniently setting up group outings. But when an extortionist starts targeting their families, threatening their reputations, Bobby and James must find a way to work together, without pushing each other’s buttons (or tearing them off) in the process… 
Review:
A new viscount who has secrets he's trying to keep finds himself facing off against his past school boy crush and the very man who gets under his skin, a handsome and open man who was asked to babysit him. James Demeroven has just inherited the title of Viscount from his father, despite suffering from anxiety, a terrible ex who is keen to blackmail him, an abusive step father, and meeting his only other family members he never knew he had, James is having a bit of a time. James is meant to be spending time with his aunt and his cousin, two people. who's home he essentially took and who had been cut out from the family but now that he's inherited the title he wants to get to know them and that means spending time with them... and spending time with Bobby Mason. Bobby Mason is the second son, he's always second best and feels like he doesn't contribute anything, so when his uncle asks him to babysit and help the newcomer in their circle to make connections and fit in with the society, he reluctantly says yes.. but every attempt to be friendly ends up in coldness as James just can't seem to convey his words or thoughts well. Bobby wants to be friends but James is intent on arguing. Bobby and James can't stand one another and yet when Jame's ex threatens to blackmail their family and extort money, both of them will have to work together to stop him and protect their families before it's too late. This is the sequel to the first book, but unfortunately this one just wasn't as good as the first one. I loved Gwen and Beth, but Bobby and James just did not work for me. They didn't feel like they had any chemistry and I just wasn't all that invested in their relationship after everything. I really enjoyed the first book but this one just didn't work for me. I really wished it did, but I just did not have as much fun with this one as I did with the first book. If you are looking for a opposites attracts/ dislike to lovers, give this a go maybe it'll work out better for you than it did for me.
*Thanks Netgalley and Avon and Harper Voyager,  for sending me an arc in exchange for an honest review*
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edwinspaynes · 3 months ago
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Top 10 ships?
God okay
Thomas Lightwood/Alastair Carstairs
Edwin Payne/Charles Rowland
Cordelia Carstairs/James Herondale
Tessa Gray/Will Herondale
Sophie Collins/Gideon Lightwood
Lum/Ataru Moroboshi/Shuutaro Mendou (OT3)
Robin Scherbatsky/Barney Stinson
Dwight Schrute/Angela Martin
Gwen Bertram/Beth Demeroven
Simon Lovelace/Isabelle Lightwood
Ask me my top 10 anything!
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