#besides I really am curious if im just blowing things out of proportion
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the-sour-patch-crew · 4 months ago
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While blocking we noticed people were getting pissed about "endos" coming at the new application Octocon (also searching it just gives links about an Irish Convention soooo thats fun).
Apparently, it's because we are mad endogenic plurality isn't being included as its primary target audience???? Really? You think that's it?
You think its because we don't want traumagenic systems to have their own tools? To have an application that focuses on them and not us?
Baby girl, that's not what people are doing. (If this is your reason for attacking the application, then kindly remove yourself from the internet).
You now have a dedicated tool for traumagenic systems to use with resources (im assuming) specifically for CDD systems. And that's great! Fantastic! Glad to see more options and variety out there for systems. My only problem with it is that it doesn't allow freedom to speak about plurality outside of what the people who run it deem as "acceptable".
The thing is, if you are making an application for traumagenic systems, then you are making it for ALL traumagenic systems. That includes pro endo traumagenic systems or traumagenic systems with created headmates. Crazy idea, am I right?
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This is a lie. It's not inclusive. You can't freely share experiences. This is why I am going after the app and saying it needs to advertise appropriately. The only time you get a real taste of what the community stands for is when you join the Discord server. *If* you join the discord server.
Again, you can have your tools. I'm happy for you. But I'm going to be critical of it just like I was critical of the syspunk tag. Saying something is inclusive means you must also be inclusive to traumagenic systems that experience plurality outside of their trauma. That also have created headmates. That also support endogenic plurality. Who's experience isn't going to align with what you think is "correct".
Technically, everyone can use this app and you've acknowledged you can't stop them. So again, no reason for anyone to be jelous or mad.
BUT when anti endos are celebrating the application, and then you see Octocon's stance on endogenic plurality, it's QUITE clear it's just another anti endo application, and people have a right to know.
You aren't JUST about misinformation. It's okay to admit it. Admit you are an anti, its fine. But for the safety of traumatized systems who may join your "welcoming and inclusive" community, they have a right to know upfront. People have a right to know who and what they are supporting without having to join the Discord server. They have a right to know because there are traumatized systems that have been hurt and fakeclaimed constantly by other traumagenic systems who are "against misinformation" and endogenic plurality. AKA anti-endos. Facts.
I'm not crying about Octocon existing and being a tool for traumagenic systems. Again, I'm thrilled to see more resources for systems. It should be something to celebrate. But, false advertising really grinds my gears. So yeah. I'm going to bitch about it.
I'm not trying to murder your project right out the door. I just want proper transparency.
If you want to discuss this and vouch for the application, then please feel free to. If you are blocked, sorry, you'll just have to sit on it. If you are a traumagenic (not an anti) and think I'm being unfair, then also let me know!
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alazyparallelworld · 2 years ago
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interesting thoughts... and sorry if im replying scarily fast, this whole thing is being spurred by an all-nigher (unusual for me). the question of whether the problems i face in my life are this horrible woe in need of immediate addressing or just me blowing things out of proportion and creating fake problems by thinking to hard is something i consider a lot, and i feel like it makes me take myself both too seriously and trivialize my own problems at the same time. i think im generally well-adjusted (no like, trauma-based mental illness, and i am fairly happy in life even when im going through stressful situations) and constantly moving towards a better handling of myself/my problems, and this contemplation is just another step in that process. like, is my current "solution" the best one, or do i keep looking? the private journal was a recent invention, and ive been enjoying it, besides when it gets tangled in attention-seeking patterns, though its fine usually
sharing meta and opinions is an interesting suggestion... its another way ive seen people i admire gain more prominence in the eyes of an audience of strangers (still not something im sure i should pursue, but on the other hand i realize that i need to accept that as a creator my goal is going to be tied to getting the attention of others and that its a fine motivation as long as its not all-consuming). i generally keep my interests to private spaces, and if i have anything more lengthy to say i kind of guiltily squirrel it away where less people will see it. i guess its interesting to think of new ways i can interact with the resources i have available to me (blogs etc). i do have a letterboxd, but i find i use it more for my own utility than as a social media
going on my own tangent, one of the ways id really like to connect with an audience is to create some kind of story that people can consume, but the more i work on it the further back being able to put something finished out gets. i know i could start small, like comics and short stories, but theres a lot of work that needs to go on in my brain and with my habits before i feel ready. soon ill hopefully have much more time to introspect and work on my craft to address that. interesting thoughts... and sorry if im replying scarily fast, this whole thing is being spurred by an all-nigher (unusual for me). the question of whether the problems i face in my life are this horrible woe in need of immediate addressing or just me blowing things out of proportion and creating fake problems by thinking to hard is something i consider a lot, and i feel like it makes me take myself both too seriously and trivialize my problems
also- curious about this special interest you mention. is it art, or psychology, or specifically the intersection between these things?
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your uncertainty upon, "am i minimizing or exaggerating my problems" is not a question i can answer. however, i can (attempt to!) reassure you that both of these are genuine problems of their own right, and worth your time and attention.
for the first - minimizing - "how can i respect myself better? why am i so inclined to 'shrinking' my problems?" and the latter, exaggerating, "how can i identify a serious problem? why do i routinely make mountains out of molehills" - and nuance exists here, you seem to be aware of that. there are situations wherein i, myself, 'crunch' my issues (because i do not have the time, capacity, to resolve said pain) or 'heavy' them (because i feel it so badly, i need to be comforted, i need to gain Attention for my pain) - and when curled upon ourselves, we struggle.
'simple,' 'easy,' 'digestible' - that's why we, the Royal we as humans, lean towards black/white thinking. to comprehend entirely is to feel so, so much pain and in such convoluted ways - the body's anatomy is pictured as interconnecting lines, and the planetary system is drawn interconnected. this is not reality. humanity, whether in history or in our skeletons below bodily functions, do not exist independently nor in neat, orderly, if/then interactions. there is no, 'closest planet,' because that is not how orbits work. but, to Understand, we curtail.
if a sounding board - to know 'The Truth,' or at least the closest next-best-thing - a social worker could help in a "i got a degree for this!" sense, rather than the extreme of Going to Therapy. i, personally, see both a social worker and a therapist. but, in my previous ask, i anecdote'd my self-taught practice through DBT /CBT worksheets, scientific essays & reports, and checklists/criteria for my concerns. self-help books are a marketable alternative; '50 tips to boost self-esteem' with a cute cover is an easier sell than, 'a study of [x] people over the scope of [x] years, symptoms and recovery' you know…?
therapy also comes with the - how to say this - 'expectation' is not the right word, but generally, there is a 'recovery plan,' - lifelong therapy is unwelcome, and you (royal you) are to be Un-checkmarked. that's why i am not - GO TO THERAPY - bc it's not my place to say so, and there is a lot of implied stress to exit upon 'completion of services,' - …it ignores the complicated reality, too, of insurance, transportation, whatever… for me, information thru SCIENCE! was a key developmental stage, and i rarely see that sort of recommendation.
although. i. i brought up mental illness i-in metaphor, i apologize if i appeared to be… Diagnosing you… [DUCKS HEAD, APOLOGETIC] just, i've seen that 'GO TO THERAPY' is the first recc people give. And I think it is Silly, dismissive, and quite often in bad faith. i am merely detailing my own experiences & self-improvement re: my struggles of (therapy-adverse) mental illness, in the hope that it is either related to on Some level, or ignites curiosity in self-improvement for you.
I. Due to the. Underdevelopment and all, I struggle w/ (blanking on how to say this, too) being comprehensible. I don't speak 'flowery,' I have an above-decent grasp on grammar whether Prose-Proper or Internet-Proper, but my intellectual disability means I perceive language in a way that isn't 1:1. I am regularly misunderstood, whether it be the definitions of the words I'm using, or my intent.
with that the bulk of 'how 2 help' is over - back to art!
mm i write at turtle-speed so i can… Sympathize, with the mismatch of 'time' and 'creation,' I've had to accept that I cannot match my hand to my thought process. Somewhere, and recently, I've sighed that a machine cannot pluck my tactile-formed sentences and prose and unfurl it into writing…
(I don't actually hear voices - I 'shape' things, mentally. i.e Letters are created through hand motions; I can't translate the sentences from thought to text, because I can't realize what they are, either. I'm blind to the things I think, beyond a vague conclusion. This is why my art is so… strange…? and unreal. My art is how I perceive reality.)
'practice, practice, practice,' bluh. I hate it - It's true. The method to write/create faster is through practice - but, how can you practice, if you cannot even start…?! A quick (not necessarily a PERFECT) beta may be of help - someone to prod you, or edit what is existing.
…and matching with an editor can be, just as hard, as creation itself…..
ah, the special interest. I like, brain abnormalities, which branches into the body itself. I'm fascinated with its functions, which is why I begun to ramble on about the nervous system and why I said that, rather than the e- [cuts myself off]
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