#berenscrit

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I guess I just don't particularly understand how Berens remains so popular (or at least gets way less criticism vs buckleming) when he's responsible for the creation of Kaia's character and brought back Missouri only to kill her off. Both of these happened in twenty seventeen ffs. This wasn't the 00s! Which, to be clear, this would not have been okay in the 00s either but there was a lot more awareness around the treatment of bipoc characters by the late 10s.

Does the confession mean that much to the fandom that we continue to largely gloss this over?

Please note: I'm not letting everyone else in the writers room off the hook (Dabb & Singer in particular as co-showrunners) since jfc someone should have caught it. But I do think Berens had more independence with creating Kaia's character & story since she would have been on Wayward which he was set to be showrunner on. And tbh I think Wayward getting nixed was a blessing in disguise. If it went ahead in its original incarnation I highly doubt we'd be talking about it the same way. Also? Bringing back Missouri in Wayward as some sort of magical spirit guide to Patience? Get all the way fucked, buddy.

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is it still berenscrit hours

it's always berenscrit hours, my friend

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note: i'm limiting myself to only one ep per writer/writer duo

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Glynn, Perez, Adams & Yockey: Dean is just a little guy with special interests and also a deep well of empathy and love and trauma

Dabb: It's about the authorfathergodnetwork and the nature of free will and fathergods and Dean is the vessel for these Themes

Fuckleming: [distracted by the Lucifer chew toy that got thrown into their enclosure] What even is consistent characterization?

Berens: What if I was still mad at the straight guy who broke my heart when I was younger and projected all of that onto Dean?

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The absolute disrespect I have to see to the Great Robert (r. thompsonis)

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about this post

@emptydespair the way i literally would never have said this two years ago because i'd have been run out of the fandom :')

also, i'd argue that red meat has nothing to do with wi/ncest and was actually about destiel but they went too subtle (something i didn't know berens was capable of so i'm attributing it to dabb) and ended up writing an ep beloved by wi/ncest shippers. berens and dabb (who co-wrote) do not have a great grasp of character interiority compared to other writers on spn and red meat was an ep that really needed less plot and more interiority.

@jewishdeanwinchester's meta of why red meat is not a wi/ncest ep my beloved

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there's such an irony to berens being tapped as a possible showrunner for a show with a cast of predominantly female characters when apparently the only personality trait he can assign to mary in 14x18 is mommy mary in spite of multiple flashbacks focusing on her relationship with other characters

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the secret bad supernatural that lives in berens head

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the past week or so i've just kinda been like. spn fandom has quieted down after two years; i will air some of my less popular opinions... and then i'm finding that there are tiny wee pockets of ppl who will at least drop a like on a post about how Actually The Confession Isn't That Great

it's all felt very healing

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Actually I am going to put my berenscrit in the tag. There have to be more berenscrits than just the small handful I already know, right?

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brain is just mii waiting room music as i consider where i've ended up in my supernatural fandom journey

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This means when I start posting polls I'm relying on followers/moots to spread them like wildflowers bc none of my posts show up in tags rn 😭

I MAY BE SHADOWBANNED BUT I FINALLY HAVE POLLS

[queermania]

I love your takes on Cas's complexity and wilfullness. I love that you consider the characters, not from what the audience knoes but from their own perspectives and from beneathe duress of war.

You're right that Cas is rebellious and goes his own way. He'd usually ask forgiveness rather than permissiom. In the distant future and if you have time, I'd love to hear thoughts on this dynamic resurfacing with the brain-fry of Donatello, how Cas literally sheds his coat to reveal angel underneath to do it! It was in 13x14 transcript / script

thank you <3

so. my answer is probably going to be disappointing because i don't really have any deep thoughts about it tbh. i think it's a pretty straightforward moment? cas takes off his coat so he can do the dirty work that needs to be done. you could probably make a pretty solid case that the trench coat represents something about who cas is continually becoming over the course of the series. i think the only other times we see him without it are in s7 when he has amnesia, s11 when he's possessed by lucifer, and then i thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiink when he's pretending to be jimmy for claire in s10. so having him take it off to revert back to being a "soldier" makes sense.

in the context of the episode, dean has told him they're going to do "whatever it takes" to get back to apocalypse world. cas is already feeling like he's failed jack. donatello kinda tries to kill dean. donatello himself seems to be a lost cause. so cas makes a decision and tries to do "whatever it takes." and much like the single shared brain cell gets passed around team free will, so do the moral compass and the high horse depending on who needs to be doing what in any given episode. in this episode, deans get to be on his high horse about cas' actions. even though he held a gun to a child's head like two episodes ago but i don't think we're allowed to be berenscrit on this webbed site yet so let me not talk about that. it is what it is. honestly, i don't think cas (or dean or sam) ever really stopped doing the beg forgiveness rather than ask permission thing? i mean, s12 was kind of all about cas doing exactly that: killing billie, stealing the colt, going with kelly, trusting jack, etc. he was doing what he thought was necessary. it just didn't involve turning a person into a vegetable. but like, this is just who cas is and we love him for that.

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Every time someone attributes destiel to Berens or fawns over him, I become more berenscrit. The refusal to acknowledge other writers (fucking especially the writers who preceded him) is astounding. Robbie wrote the OG confession in s8 and some ppl in the writers room were clearly behind it from at least s5. Berens was hired in for s9. Know your herstory.

the 15x18 confession isn't even that good imho

Also dear fucking god this fandom needs to learn what a rhetorical question is. I want to shake someone.

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Honestly the funniest trajectory of my life is dabbhater (2021) to berenscrit dabbfan (2022)

Get so mad at a guy you decide you're gonna pin down exactly why he's so awful and then end up being a fan as a result of a deep dive into and subsequent reevaluation of his work

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honestly the funniest part of backreading the tag is getting to the beginning when i was still surprised by how much i liked his work but was still being mean. now i'm like. full-blown apologia.

actually, i credit a good bit of how much i've come around on him to resi tbh. he's clearly gone through a lot of growth since he wrote 07x22 and maybe that growth was just knowing when to step back, but when it comes to a showrunner who clearly still enjoys the hands-in-the-writing part of it, it's really important to know when to get a second set of eyes and/or cede that story to other ppl.

going through my dabbnatural tag is like... 50% me being The Most Annoying On Other People's Posts and 50% wild ramblings about the Themes