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I want to meet the woman who had not one but TWO kids with Hermes. Two kids so close in age and are so alike people just assume that they're twins, two kids who are chaos personified, who singlehandedly run the camp shop, who are in charge of the biggest cabin at camp and look after their equally chaotic gremlin siblings plus every unclaimed kid at camp like Lou Ellen a daughter of Hecate and another being of chaos who learnt it all from them, and who take every opportunity to fuck shit up, to prank their camp mates or to steal shit. Their last name, which they get from their mama? Stoll by the way. Neither child notices the pun.
I want to meet Mama Stoll, who saw the chaos, who saw the bullshit Hermes brought into her life the first go around and said tonight's the night let's do it again. She is either the world's greatest cat burglar who enticed the god of Thieves or the messenger god was enchanted by the best god dam delivery woman on the planet. There's no in-between. It was just a bonus that her surname was the perfect pun. Her and Hermes laugh about it. In my head, it's all canon. Regardless, she unleashed two agents of unlimited chaos onto an unsuspecting world, and I love her for it. I take my hat off to her, I kneel before her.
Oh, and the oldest kid, Travis? He's dating a girl called Katie, who is the daughter of Demeter. Her last name? Gardner. Fucking Gardner. She has a sister called Miranda Gardiner, by the way. Mama Stoll finds it hilarious. Her sons still don't get the pun, but at least she gets on with her future daughter in law like a house on fire.
#pjo spoilers#pjo#hermes pjo#percy jackson and the olympians spoilers#percy jackson#percy jackon and the olympians#travis stoll#connor stoll#the stoll brothers#katie gardner#miranda gardiner#tratie#travis x katie#katie is at college and dating travis in new rome you may argue to the wall#theyre canon to me#do not cite the deep magic to me witch i was there when it was written etc#riordanverse#but like they're perfect they're head counsellors together they have forced proximity slight enemies to lovers thing going on#he makes her laugh & have fun she relaxes him they bicker like an old married couple he lifts her up & spins her around just because he can#and because he likes holding her she pretends to hate it but she can't rub the smile off her face... they're canon to me ok#mama stoll#mrs stoll
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my aesthetics :
the second quarter quell generation, pt one (aka the generation with all the principal characters’ parents, and then also haymitch)
#thg#hunger games#haymitch abernathy#Katniss everdeen#Peeta mellark#maysilee donner#thgedit#okay so in order this goes#Haymitch Haymitch’s girl katniss’s parents Peeta’s parents and then the donner twins#i will make a part 2 with the characters if I can think of more than gales parents#if I can’t hazelle and her husband will be retroactively added into this one#myaesthetics#myedit#ya lit aesthetic#ya lit edit#and yeah this may be shameless promo one day for my lil 2nd quarter quell ficcy#which is why the little title for Mr E is confusing !!! because a lot of this is about my made up lore!!! his mom is Maude ivory but she#disappeared when he was a child#which is why Katniss knows nothing about her own gramma!!!#ok anyways if I ever write it all the little titles will make sense but for now they’re confusing because I made this specially for me for#my made up headcanons that make no sense to anyone else lololololol#oh oh oh also I put black eyes in both Katniss’ mom and Peeta’s mom’s edits for a reason!!!#ok so like I always interpreted it that abuse in the merchant class was more common#like what Peeta obviously went through at home was actually normalized in his circle#and it’s also implied Katniss’ mom was shunned by her parents for marrying Katniss’ dad so I figure they couldn’t have been good parents#and then Peeta’s mom Ruby also has blood on her own hands because we know she one day is abusive to her own kids so it’s like#she experienced abuse and then continues the terrible circle#but obviously Katniss’ mom lavender does not! she has other issues though but the young version is so fun to play with#also young Haymitch and his girl here would be the most judgey pretty couple#I have lots of headcanons for them some of which I’ve entwined already into at least one of my fics
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Consider, if you will, AU (either with canon post-s1 pre-s2 events but D.A.D.D.I.E.S. solves things before season 2 would start, or no Doodler/betrayal but Nicky still has to leave because FBI or other reasons) in which Terry Jr is the full time drama teacher for Teen High. Nicky returns from wherever he's been and is like "Well I want to be an active part of my kid's life and try and make up for lost time. I should go to his parents' evening, find out how he's doing in school, and meet his teachers. Especially this Mr Marlowe guy, Taylor seems to think he's awesome." And walking right into that classroom/hall to find his ex-boyfriend best friend sitting there in a dorky sweater and tie combo
Cue Terry, without missing a beat, greeting them as if nothing is wrong
Internal: when the FUCK did he come back and oh my god this is so awkward fuck I have to be professional how do I tell this guy that his kid is a loveable little shit after everything that's happened oh god oh fuck
Externally: "Hello Taylor and Mr Close-Foster-Freeman. I'm Taylor's drama teacher" *shakes hand* "Would you like to take a seat?"
#Nicky: I should go to Taylor's parents evening#Cassandra knowing full well that Terry is the drama teacher: you know what that sounds like a great idea#Both Terry Jr and Nicky afterwards sent her the So was anyone going to tell me blank meme#Nicky spending that night freaking out to Cass like#Did he get hotter??? I swear he got hotter in the 13 years I've been away#It's not fair Cass his eyes are even pretty in the school's shitty lights that they don't have the budget to fix#He looks so good in a tie Cassie. WHY DOES HE LOOK SO GOOD IN A TIE#Also when the fuck did he get married#WHAT DO YOU MEAN HE HAS A DAUGHTER#....Cass he would be so good with kids I think I'm going to die#(Nicky was wrong as Terry is so bad with teenagers)#Cassandra completely unimpressed just trying to do her woodwork#But also very indulgent towards her ex-husband's tomfoolery#Nicky: do you think his wife is okay with poly relationships#Cassandra: a) I'm pretty sure Terry would require a minimum of 6 months joint and individual therapy for both of you#Before you can start dating again#And b) if she is let me know because Veronica is a Snacc#I have many thoughts about this if you can't tell#Which I may expand on it requested#terry jr#dungeons and daddies#terry stampler#dndads#terry jr stampler#dndads s2#dndads terry jr#nicholas foster#nick close#nicky freeman#nicky close foster
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"Some modern historians, apparently fascinated by the fact that Matilda was eleven years older than her second husband, Geoffrey of Anjou, have been quick to assert that the marriage was unhappy. The historical basis for this assertion rests upon the word of the Durham chronicler, who stated that when Matilda returned to Henry I’s court in 1129 it was because Geoffrey had repudiated her. [Historians have thus assumed that their mutual incompatibility led to hostility and an eventual separation]. However, it must be noted that the northern chronicler was hardly in a position to have first-hand information about events across the Channel, and that he had the chronology of the affair completely wrong. The author placed Matilda’s marriage in 1129, and wrote that only a few days after King Henry returned to England on 13 July of that year, he was told that his daughter had been repudiated by her husband and had returned to Rouen with only a few attendants. The marriage actually took place in 1128, and Matilda was in Anjou with her husband in 1129 when the la Haye brothers brought a charter in favor of the abbey of Fontevraud to her for her confirmation. The other contemporary accounts of Matilda’s separation from her husband did not record her departure or suggest reasons for it, but only noted her return to Anjou in 1131.
It is possible that Matilda’s return to her father’s court in 1129 was not a marital separation at all, but rather a political mission. Perhaps Matilda and Geoffrey grew uneasy in their isolation and began to doubt the commitment of the Anglo-Norman barons to their cause. Leaving her husband behind to manage affairs in Anjou, Matilda may have travelled to Normandy seeking clarification of her position. A few scraps of evidence point in this direction. A letter that Hildebert of Lavardin wrote to Henry I in 1131 expressed pleasure that the king was now reconciled with the count of Anjou, who ‘had now fallen in with his wishes in everything concerning him and his daughter’. Henry of Huntingdon and Robert of Torigny stated that a ‘great council’ held at Northampton on 8 September 1131 decided that Matilda should be returned to her husband. The wording implies a decision made by the great men of the realm for political reasons, not a family’s success in persuading a tearful daughter to return to a husband whom she disliked. Furthermore, William of Malmesbury wrote that ‘no small gathering of the nobility being held at Northampton, the oath of fidelity to her was renewed by those who had already sworn and also taken by those who had not done so previously’. The renewal of the oath also suggests that Matilda’s mission may have been occasioned by concern over the succession rather than by the marital discord that historians have often taken for granted."
-Jean A. Truax, "Winning over the Londoners: King Stephen, the Empress Matilda and the Politics of Personality", The Haskins Society Journal 8 (1996)
#empress matilda#geoffrey of anjou#my post#12th century#We don't and can't know the historical truth but this is an interesting alternate perspective for sure!#though it doesn't change the fact that Matilda does seem to have been coerced/forced/pushed into the marriage#and that fact in turn cannot be used to determine what they thought of each other or how they got along after they did marry#also both perspectives are not mutually exclusive - they could've become estranged AND she might have left to settle her succession#But ofc it's entirely possible that this alternate version may have been true#It does fit the claims of chronicles like Torigny who spoke of how there were tensions between Henry and Matilda & Geoffrey#before his death because he refused to surrender her dowry castles or pay homage to her as he should have#But ultimately however the marriage began they do seem to have formed more-or-less functional partnership#and were evidently mutually invested in their kids#so there's that#I really like alternate perspectives like this that make you question established historical narratives by scrutinizing the actual evidence#(also I had many many problems with this chapter and how it dismissed and downplayed gendered criticisms against Matilda#but that's another issue)
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This just in, local bisexual disaster finds his taste in women in need of a rain check- is the imagined kabedon suggestive enough to need a tag?
Hey what if Tranformers Prime really emphasised that Airachnid was very much a poacher and that her schtic as an (albeit temporary on her part) interrogator of the Decepticons were skills she had taken from poaching endangered game and mounting them on her walls?
#airachnid#tfp airachnid#breakdown#tfp breakdown#transformers#tfp#humanformers#maccadam#fanart#do i ship these two together? no. but do i stare intently as breakdown is 'intrigued' by airachnid? yeah sure#breakdown is married to his husband but he is not immune to m/f thoughts#as a breakdown fan you may think that i am far too fond of airachnid to make that statement true but like problematic women 😌#gave airachnid that full safari hunter look because i'm not the best at sci-fi clothes outside of like- cloaks but like my girl poaches ya?#gaston behaving ass- uses antlers in all of her decorating ass#takes photos of her standing over rhinos she's shot- doesn't even do it for the money does it for the fun and trophy of it#literally villainous and probably something that could have been more compelling than 'oh i have a torture rivalry for arcee'#let's just say that arcee knows after her experience with airachnid that apparently human skin is too thin to taxidermy#a fact (among her personal experience under airachnid's tools) that haunts her very much#besides in a more human-based setting it's not as if airachnid can come equipped with organic webbing#she loves her nets and probably drop any form of humanisation at the tip of a hat#a safari hat#we stan a problematic queen#or maybe i do- she is imagining pinning breakdown like one would a butterfly (at the least graphic)#ask to tag#for the kabedon part of the whole bi breakdown section#who's brain just immediately shortcutted and went 'kabedon' instead of probably a more literal butterfly pinning#because 'hot lady'
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You know who Tommy reminds me of that it was bothering me sm that I couldn’t place it but then I remembered this scene?
Rick from Casablanca
Like Tommy says this to chimney verbatim in that one scene
He calls buck (his love interest) “kid” just like Rick does to Ilsa (his love interest)
Even personality wise something about it fits like the cool guy exterior, the struggle to be good,the sort of air of unphased energy if you get what I mean, etc
Anyways that got me thinking and if the bucktommy break up is something bittersweet like Rick and Ilsa then I would love it:
HE EVEN DOES THE MOTHERFUCKING CHIN GRAB^^^^
Like imagine this if buddie does go canon instead of Rick letting Ilsa go for the greater good of the world/politics
#my old movie obsessed ass back at it again just when you thought my reign of terror with the it’s a wonderful life references was over#911 abc#eddie diaz#911 fox#evan buck buckley#911onfox#I mention bucktommmy so do I tag that? I’m not sure someone advise 😭😭#buddie#911#tommy kinard#evan buckley#also just realised some people may not know the context of Casablanca or it’s famous break up scene#so ilsla is married to victor who’s a political fugitive fighting nazis but she thought he was dead at one point so she gets with Rick#she finds out victor is alive and leaves Rick#she never told Rick any of this#she shows up with victor in ricks bar victor needs to escape cos Nazi shit#that breakup scene is Rick telling her to go to victor because she’ll regret it if she doesn’t and that they’ll always have Paris (aka the#time they had together)#911 spec#911 speculation#except it’s crack and I’m pretty sure exams are rotting my brain and I’m speaking nonsense#god I love Casablanca
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"Antiochos’ and Stratonike’s activities in the eastern part of the [Seleukid] empire are largely shrouded in mystery, but, as Engels has argued, Antiochos was far from idle since he embarked on a large building programme and was active in securing the frontier. There is some evidence to suggest that his new bride accompanied him for much of this period. We can perhaps identify Stratonike’s presence with her new husband in the Upper Satrapies through the gold coinage minted in Susa and Baktria in c . 287. The two gold coin sets are of the same type, the obverse features the laureate head of Apollo facing right and the reverse features Artemis in an elephant biga facing left with the legend ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ΣΕΛΕΥΚΟΥ in exergue.
Figure 1: Coin of Seleukos I from Baktria Depicting Apollo on the Obverse and Artemis with Elephant Biga on the Reverse (Houghton and Lorber 2002, SC I no. 163).
Figure 2: Coin of Seleukos I from Baktria Depicting Apollo on the Obverse and Artemis with Elephant Biga on the Reverse (Houghton and Lorber 2002, SC I no. 257).
The reverse image of Artemis in the elephant biga is within the same design type as a large range of other coinage issued by Seleukos I celebrating the success of his elephants and thus his eastern campaigns. The appearance of Artemis is however unique to these coin types. This suggests the emphasis on the close links between the twin gods, Artemis and Apollo, depicted on the obverse and reverse of this coinage . Since there appears to be as a close link between Apollo and Antiochos as there is between Zeus and Seleukos, the presence of Artemis could be seen as a symbol for Stratonike. This would create a series of parallels: Seleukos/Zeus, Antiochos/Apollo, and Stratonike/Artemis. The first two reflect what we see for these two kings at the list of priests of Seleukid kings in Seleukeia in Pieria . Additionally, it may be notable that the sister-wife ideology [...] appears to be evident later in the reign of Antiochos.
As all of the Apollo/Artemis cointypes were produced on high value gold coinage, this suggests that it was issued in order to commemorate a significant event. While the type was similar to other Seleukid coinage, the shift from Athena to Artemis was clearly discernible and unique. The arrival of the new joint-King and Queen in the region to take up residence would have been a suitable moment for the issuing of the new coin type. This advertisement of their new rule certainly falls in line with Seleukos’ wedding speech which confirmed their new roles."
-David Engels & Kyle Erickson, "Apama and Stratonike – Marriage and Legitimacy", "Seleukid Royal Women" (edited by Edited by Altay Coşkun and Alex McAuley). The pictures of the coins are screenshots from the book.
#historicwomendaily#stratonike#antiochus I soter#seleukid empire#hellenistic period#ancient history#history#'Antiochus’ and Stratonike’s activities in the eastern part of the empire are largely shrouded in mystery' don't do this to me#this mystery is mainly because of lack of accessibility or of evidence than lack of activity - but it's still a shame#also re the 'sister-wife ideology'#as historians have pointed out Stratonike was called 'hirtu' aka 'principal wife' in the famous Borsippa Cylinder of Antiochus I#an unusual title which indicates her precedence but also implies a polygamous situation (which was normal in the Hellenistic period)#centuries later Stephanos of Byzantion claimed that Antiochus named the city of Nysa 'after his wife Nysa'#Stephanos isn't really reliable: he's almost definitely wrong about the adjacent information he gives about the city of Antioch being named#after Antiochus's mother#but it may nonetheless indicate he had a minor wife named Nysa#epigraphic evidence also suggests Antiochus married a woman called 'sister-wife'#which many scholars have theorized was Nysa (as his half-sister)#though others believe the title was most likely honorific and shouldn't be taken literally#(for example Laodike - queen of Antiochos III - was also called sister-wife when we know she was actually his cousin)#so the epigraphical evidence may indicate a non-sibling Nysa or Stratonike#if it was a non-sibling Nysa then she may have also been a cousin or relative#but these coins of Antiochus and Stratonike as Apollo-and-Artemis clearly does play into the 'sister-wife ideology'#we know Antiochus strongly associated himself with Apollo and Stratonike made generous donations at Delos at Artemis-and-Apollo temples#so IF the title was honorific then it could have likely referred to Stratonike as well#also - we have no idea who Nysa was but if a city was named after her I wonder if her marriage was to boost local alliances?#which doesn't prelude the idea of her being a relative#we also don't know when they married - he married Stratonike in his late 20s so he may have even been married to her before that. who knows#anyway. the title of 'hirtu' being applied for Stratonike was VERY unique for the Seleukids...it's interesting to think about#(ik nobody but me cares about this but oh well)
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@beatingheart-bride
Having noticed the way his expression crinkled (and not just because of the unpleasant topic of her boss), Susannah was quick to grab the salve and some pain pills, quickly passing the latter to Philippe to take with his coffee, while she gently applied the salve-it served as something of a distraction from what he'd just said.
He was right, of course; Mickey was a poor excuse for a boss. He was cheap, rude, abrasive, demanding, temperamental, and just about every other negative adjective you could think of under the sun. He overworked and underpaid his employees; the only time he was ever really pleasant was when a wealthy customer came through their door, upon which he'd turned on the charm in the hopes of getting them to empty their wallets purchasing their wares. Susannah dreaded getting up in the morning, knowing she'd have to see his ugly mug first thing she came through the door.
But what could she do? For all his faults, he was the only one who would hire her, and while his wages weren't anything to write home about, they were enough to get her by. She had a roof over her head, food in her cupboards, a steady job, clothes on her back...she had to count her blessings where she got 'em.
"Ah, he's not so bad," she reassured Philippe, as she gently applied the salve. "He's all bark and no bite, really. I could do a lot worse, as bosses go."
She remembered (bitterly) some of the bosses her father used to work for, real unpleasant fellows...they were harsh, pushy types who only just barely tolerated August Pace, chiefly because he was hard-working and accepted whatever meager pay they tossed his way. He was willing to keep his head down and put up with their demands, so long as they didn't insult his family. Inevitably, they would, and he would not stand for it. Her father got into a lot of fights as a result-seldom physical, fortunately, but the verbal sparring, the insults flung at his beloved deceased wife and his innocent daughter, hurt far more than any punch ever could.
#((there has to be a hundred eligible bachelorettes in new orleans; all who would gladly become mrs. de clair))#((who have been eagerly throwing themselves philippe's way; vying for his hand; but he just doesn't feel that spark))#((the way he does with the last woman anyone would ever expect him to fall for: a poor irish-american spinster!))#((she didn't even have to try and win him over; and arguably; that's *why* she won him over!))#((even at her shyest; susannah is genuine; she's authentic; and i think that's part of why philippe is so drawn to her!))#((he's been looking for real; genuine love with someone; he wants to marry for love; not out of some sort of duty))#((and so in meeting susannah; getting to know her; he's getting the real mccoy; so to speak))#((and he likes what he sees! he likes her hard-headed nature; her strong work ethic; her wit; her gentleness))#((her passion for her work...he likes it all because it's *real*; it's genuinely her; and had she been inauthentic))#((and tried to put up a front around him; trying to prettify/perfect herself in an effort to draw him in))#((it may have had the opposite effect; and he may not have paid her much mind!))#((at least that's what i think!))#outofhatboxes#beatingheart-bride#V:Genderbent
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frightful thought: Noah could be Alice's son from the future.....like I'm just saying, time travel is genetic in this house...and his mom is allegedly a Backstreet Boys super fan? And Alice listens to the Backstreet Boys? Questionable. I'll also say, Casey Goodwin said something about "maybe that's why I'm here," so now I'm a tad paranoid about time traveling teens
#honestly why are Alice and Kat not paranoid about time traveling teens? Kat never knew she was hanging out with her own daughter#what makes them think they're oh-so-smart about time travelers visiting them in 2024????#I'm also kinda scared of Susanna and Jacob being married because then there's a solid chance that Kat and Eliot are related and..yikes#overall don't want Alice to date Noah OR Nick but really really have a hard time trusting teens in this show#considering that Alice has been into a 40 year old man for most of this show. Sidenote he needs to STOP giving her dating advice#STOP speaking to her sir you may have been 16 when you dated her but you are 40 now and she is NOT so STOP IT!!!!!!!#I love this show so much omg#Andie McDowell should get to steal more horses in these last 2 episodes of the season#hallmark the way home#the way home hallmark
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#911 fox#911 abc#buddie#bathena#madney#do hen and Karen have a ship name????#evan buck buckley#eddie diaz#bobby nash#howard chimney han#maddie buckley#henrietta hen wilson#911 on fox#911 on abc#you may think it is mr. hot air balloon wanna be housewife buck#but I raise to you Chimney who followed Maddie across the country and sat on a bench waiting for her for WEEKS#then there is Bobby who proposed to Athena after like only 6 months and got married within less than a year#Eddie is interesting because I think he truly did love Shannon and her dying messed him up#but the biggest piece of evidence is the will#hen is difficult because she did cheat on her wife with a white woman 😐#but her and Karen are cute!!
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made a small personal edit to a piercing mod (changed one pair of earrings into a single earring and then changed the stone color) and... yeah i think i really like this:
gale decides to leave his earring at the foot of mystra's statue after the confrontation at stormshore tabernacle, as a small form of catharsis for himself after having defied his goddess and ex-lover. elenion doesn't press him about it because they know how difficult this all must be for him, and they've got so many other things to worry about anyway. sometime not too long before their wedding date gale tells elenion he wants to get a new earring to represent a new chapter in his life (and also because he keeps trying to stim by dangling his earring and forgetting it's not there anymore) and elenion takes gale to their favorite jewelry shop so he can pick out something nice. gale goes in with nothing specific in mind but an earring resembling a gold sun catches his eye and he chooses it to go with his husband-to-be's favorite pair of silver moon earrings. that's the headcanon i've decided on!
#baldur's gate 3#gale x tav#gale dekarios#oc: elenion silverdew#otp: you put the stars to shame#i have thought... so much about this okay#and a lot of people seem really insistent that gale needs to remove/replace his earring IMMEDIATELY because it's a reminder of his ex#but like she's not just his ex. mystra is also the literal goddess of magic and as a wizard magic is his LIFE#unfortunately he can't completely forget her or stop worshipping her#i do wish he got rid of the earring after stormshore tabernacle whether you romanced him or not#because you helped show him there's more to life. it'd be like how SH changes her hair even if you don't romance her#but he doesn't need to replace it right after that (or at all if he doesn't want to).#he needs time and patience and the space to wait until he's ready and then decide for himself what to do#which is why i imagine him not getting a new earring until maybe a couple weeks before he and elenion are to be married#ANYWAY. gale may not be a particularly sun-coded character but to elenion he is their sun and stars ☀️✨#they have never met anyone more bright and warm and beautiful than gale dekarios 💜💜#also whoops. i once again wrote a tag essay instead of just writing my thoughts in the post!#creme don't look
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deciding who i’m going to marry in this save will be incredibly difficult
#i did make her a male farmer to fit my nonbinary harrow headcanons and also bc i forgot to click girl#so i may have to make her marry alex#he is gideon-coded#and i don’t want to make her straight marry anyone#bc hayley was a second choice because she’s blonde#tlt
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So there was a tumblr post about the fact that Prince Charming could’ve been blind hence the shoe thing with Cinderella. I thought it was cool and made a story. I bull-pointed a whole story iut almost a year ago…AND LOST THE NOTEBOOK
Do I try to rebulletpoint it or keep looking
#writing#fanfic#sorta#au#Cinderella#I did research#the princess Charming was suppose to marry was actually in love with one of her lady in waiting’s#another young noble helped give him clues to where Cinderella was#I had backstories#the head of guard was super chill with the vision lost and helped reached prince how to use a cane#cause his brother lost eyesight after an accident#big scene of him telling the court to deal with him because he was prince and while he may be blind he ain’t deaf and can hear them#and that most of them are old and probably have vision just as bad as him and hearing loss#so if they can do it#he can#he called them vultures trying to divide the kingdom
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"The newly widowed Elizabeth (Woodville) was exceptionally vulnerable. Several of the trustees responsible for her jointure refused to hand over the manors that were meant to sustain her in her widowhood. Moreover, her brother-in-law, Edward Grey, had seized estates that her son Thomas should have inherited from his paternal grandfather, while her mother-in-law’s new young husband, Sir John Bourchier, had prevailed on Lady Ferrers to settle her principal properties on them jointly for life, ensuring that Thomas would have to wait far longer for this inheritance too. Rivers and Scales were pardoned in July 1461 and swiftly moved into the Yorkist establishment, which perhaps explains the success of the chancery suits Elizabeth launched to regain her jointure. Her son’s inheritance proved harder to recover. By 1463, Rivers was often in (Edward IV's) company and on his council, but Elizabeth needed someone with much stronger influence over the King. She turned to a distant kinsman, William, Lord Hastings, the King’s chamberlain. Hastings drove a very hard bargain for his aid but it was probably amid these negotiations that the King’s desire for Elizabeth was kindled."
-J.L. Laynesmith, "Elizabeth Woodville: the Knight's Widow", Later Plantagenet and Wars of the Roses Consorts: Power, Influence, and Dynasty
#historicwomendaily#elizabeth woodville#Elizabeth really had terrible in-laws#And these people weren't even the worst of them - that particular award goes to Richard of Gloucester#As complicated as her first widowhood sounds it was a breeze compared to the literal nightmare she went through during her second.#Honestly though: part me wonders what Elizabeth's first marriage was like because we know absolutely nothing about it.#The marriage itself is a blank slate but the fact that her husband's parents & siblings were so indifferent and uncooperative#to her - and their own kid-grandchildren?? - after he died indicates that his family may have been rather dysfunctional imo?#Certainly they (or most of them) don't seem to have cared about the wellbeing or dignity of his young and newly widowed wife which#doesn't exactly suggest closeness or support during the marriage itself from their end.#Elizabeth doesn't mention John Gray in her deathbed will either though she mentions Edward IV. She may have thought it was#'inappropriate' to mention her first husband beside her significantly higher-ranked second husband...but she DOES mention her son by#her first marriage - which would have drawn attention to it anyway - alongside her royal daughter so that's unlikely to have been a reason.#Maybe it was simply the passage of time? She and John had been married for very few years and she lived such a different life after that#So it's possible that her first marriage simply seemed very distant and faraway to her.#Alternatively it may have simply been undivided affection for Edward IV (her husband of 19 years who she married for love)#which fits well into the relatively personal nature of her will.#Of course we don't actually know anything about any of this and this is all pure wild speculation on my end...but I'm curious.#It's really a shame how little we actually know about Elizabeth's life - made worse by the very limited primary records of Edward IV's#reign and the fact that his chamber records don't survive. And it's even more frustrating that this is so rarely actually acknowledged#by historians. I'd argue we know far more about the life & interests of most other 'prominent' women of the Wars of the Roses#(sans the Neville sisters) than we do about Elizabeth Woodville.
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idk why but I really like making sapphic romances where a Pedro character is also There.
#tj talks#he's not even a central character in it he's just There as well while these two women are having tension filled dinner and hand holding#may i introduce you guys to my new oc i made up with mars: dornish noble woman who is married off ot a northern man who is actually a woman#she hates her husband because he (she) is a northerner >:( but is also like 'um hi hello why aren't you giving me attention' because-#her husband oddly respects her boundaries?? and lets her be?? what the fuck#anyways these two gals having begrudging haters to lovers while oberyn is off partying it up in dorne reading every letter-#from his former lover (the wife) who is like 'GOD i hATE the north its so cold and my husband is the WORST anyways miss you<3'
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been thinking about Mimi Augustus today and damn. Vincent really fumbled a bad bitch to chase a manic pixie dream boy that can't hold a job down longer than a few months. and also kills people
#psy's no punctuation posts#SOBR tag#i mean Beau would never have killed anyone under normal circumstances but still i love pointing that out#Beau is such a cringefail loser and Vincent only puts up with it because Beau is hot and charming#also maybe sunk cost fallacy paired with 'this may be my only chance to be with a man'#i get it but i do not respect it KRKFN#in an ideal world Vincent and Mimi would never have married but even in modern verse i imagine he uses her as a beard#i love her and she does not need all this stress lol
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