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constellaj · 3 years ago
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have you ever read/watched Superman/Batman: Public Enemies (comic from 2004, adapted into an animated film in 2009) and if you have which part do you think was most blatantly copied into Phantom Planet?
no but im going to guess all of it
long ramble in the tags might screenshot later idk
#on paper i dont have any problems with dp borrowing/riffing on big comic arcs!#reality trip is a cringe episode but not because it steals the infinity gauntlet#i think its a neat reflection of the superhero genre as a whole as DP is meant to be a sort of exaggerated superhero story#and what better way to pay homage to the art form than referencing arcs and whatnot?#the issue comes up when people want to pretend that it was generated wholesale instead of playing off of the comic superhero genre#stealing tropes/mcguffins/etc isnt plagiarism its paying homage (re: reality gauntlet/infinity gauntlet)#(just because the item is the same and works the same doesn't mean the overall story is damaged)#(it builds on an expanding mythos of the superhero genre! like the head of medusa or the christian cross#it takes a more well-known piece of media and pays tribute to it in a similar one)#but stealing PLOTLINES *is* plagiarism#(ofc err on the side of caution. the hero's journey and all that. all plotlines are similar)#the exact same beats in the exact same order#alongside the exact same mcguffins#are a good indicator of when plagiarism has cropped up#and then of course in similar media types you can always compare dialogue/shots/art or writing style/music cues etc#long story short; if superbat public enemies just has a few things/mcguffins in common w pp then i dont really take issue for THAT reason#bc that would be homage! and pp is horrible for so many OTHER reasons :)#however ofc if its like#beat 1 beat 2 beat 3 shot 1 dialogue 1 beat 4 thats ALL in common#then yeah#i just think its important to remember that genres exist in a bit of a loop of information#and a superhero story cannot avoid copying another one now that its a mainstream genre#ask
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norasfilmjourney · 2 years ago
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Hey, so I've watched 4 2022 releases recently, so I'm gonna do a "new release roundup" summarising my thoughts on each film I watched; The Gray Man, Prey, Decision to Leave, & Nope. Obviously, spoilers for all the above, but I've seperated them and included a picture so you know when each review starts if you wish to read a specific one. The "Nope" review also counts as a user's canon review.
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Film #1, The Gray Man.
Watched July 22nd 2022.
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Don't let the pretty colours fool you, this film is not even remotely vibrant. It's one of the most boring movies I have ever seen. If you tried to come up with a more generic blockbuster plot you probably couldn't. It's like a marvel film posing as a big budget spy thriller.
The fights here are baffling. How did the Russos think it was a good idea to have a cut every quarter second and have the film be filled to the brim with smoke for like every single fight? The editing is so bad it becomes hard to tell what's actually happening.
This is about like 30 minutes too long because half the dialogue is jokes that don't land and theres a completely unnecessary final few minutes.
It also decides to go down the route of instead of making the CIA seem to be a bad organization, telling us that all the bad people are just "bad apples." It's boring, it's generic, it's questionable politically, and it's unfunny. What more is there to dislike, really? 2/10
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Film #2, Prey
Watched August 6th 2022.
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This movie fucking slaps. Incredibly brutal film, unrelenting in it's action and viscerality. Even past the (wild) Predator sequences - which were extremely impressive, scary, and fun IMO - we get the sequences of the colonizing people mistreating (to say the least) the natives. It's a weird but really good choice to not have the Predator be the only threat to the Comanche's way of life in this film. I also appreciate that this could've been a really preach-y, liberal "girl power" movie but instead treated the somewhat feminist themes with subtlety and care.
Past that, this film is gorgeous. It takes it's time getting into the action with a fairly slow beginning that prepares us for the (affective) emotional beats that come later. Its cinematography is insane - mostly due to the scenery, but even in the night scenes the fire is vibrant and it's still easy to tell what's going. The visual effects are insane, barely noticable.
I watched this with the Comanche dub, which while good, was unfortunately rather noticable. I would still recommend watching it like that as that's how the director intended. Despite this, the acting felt at least servicable, and at times very good.
I think overall this might be my favourite of the year. The best time I had, other than perhaps Everything Everywhere All At Once - but while that film has noticable problems that are hard for me to ignore, and was likely somewhat carried by my viewing conditions being the best they could possibly be - this film does not past some very minor gripes. Feeling a strong 9/10. Blockbuster of the year?
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Film #3, Decision to Leave
Watched August 27th 2022.
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Of the 3 Park films I have seen, this is the work most tailored to his fans, I feel. More than Oldboy and The Handmaiden, this has his specific flare; plenty of weird eroticism, the slightly but not too disturbing moments, and the stylized violence thats still rooted in a sort of realism. If you're an enjoyer of his other work you'll like it, if not, give it a cautious shot. Luckily for me, I am.
I found this to be very interesting from a thematic perspective; it seems to be mostly exploring investigation as an act of love. To imply the obsession, the loss of sleep - and the rest that comes with it - to be an act of desire. Normally, we don't take desire as being love, necessarily - but the desiree's enjoyment of it, the mutual desire, causes one to view it this way. It provides a pretty compelling dynamic, and something to think about, and it starts to hit pretty hard after the credits roll. Unfortunately, it's forgotten subtlety at all in doing this. Not only is there a line pretty much saying the films thesis, but it says it multiple times.
From a more technical perspective; I found the editing to be some of the best I've seen in ages, it's hypnotizing. The cinematography was gorgeous. The acting delivered, and has honestly convinced me to see more of Park Hae-il's work.
The worst part was not entirely the film's part. I found myself to be rather uncomprehensive and zoned-out between the flash forward and the 2nd husband's murder. Although I do think the film contributed to it, because I believe there is quite a bit of unnecessary, bloating content here, causing it to become a bit of a lull and overlong. I can't blame it in it's entirety however, as I've done better with films that are more packed for sure. 9/10, I'd say, but could either drop to an 8 or rise to a 10 depending on how it sits in.
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Film #4, Nope
Watched August 28th, 2022.
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I am quite unsure what to get out of this on a thematic level? Quite clearly it intends to comment on a lot of things. My main takeaway was it's entwining of cinema history, race, and spectacle. Multiple times throughout this film it makes a point of the first actor being a black horse jockey - it entwins cinema history with the first actor, race with well their race, and the inherent spectacle of viewing the first filmed human. But I don't think it's a coincidence it then proceeds to make the first notice of the alien through a horse's actions and make it's main trigger to be spectacle.
It also seems to focus on understanding. The primary goal with the monster is to understand it's motives. Between the chimpanzee and Jupe there becomes an understanding that they're okay. It's a mystery film, it inherently wants us to attempt to understand what is going on here. More obviously, at the start of the film our main character and his sister are fairly at odds, and again, they grow to be closer (and therefore, more understanding) by the end of the movie.
While neither of these are particularly something on their own, I think it becomes rather interesting when combined. Throughout history, cinema (especially the western - which this film often seemingly jokes about it) has had a tendency towards the "exotic" peoples, one that turns cultural identities into spectacle, rather than attempting to understand. One that gets horror, thrills, humor, or spectacle out of the unknown. Of course, the subjects have rejected it. The first that comes to mind is the ethnographic classic Nanook of the North I believe, this has had an influence on these peoples' lives that they did not desire. But because they were unknown and percieved as exotic, they became a humorous spectacle for a completely foreign audience, rather than a culture to be understood.
The film starts with a bible quote that summarises it rather well; "I will cast abominable filth upon you, make you vile, and make you a spectacle." We have casted filth upon the unknown. We have made them exotic, an "other", something which many are afraid of. We have made them something special in our culture, something not to be understood but to be gazed upon and talked about.
Past themes, I think this is just a pretty fun movie. It felt a little bloated at times, like it stretched scenes unnecessarily, but this didn't stop me from enjoying it as a whole. There was moments of anti-horror, stuff that should have been scary but intentionally wasn't, such as the alien fake-out near the start, or when something is creeping up behind the guy from the store and it just turns out to be his co-worker. I think this film does that as a whole, it desires to be a big summer blockbuster with a premise that would work much better as a horror film, and was executed as a horror film for quite some time near the start. While I don't think this is a good decision, it does make the film a pretty good time to watch with friends/family with the volume cranked. There's most notably there's the scene of Jupe and his crowd being eaten - which is a twist I wasn't expecting and viscerally terrifying, moreso than anything I've sene in a previous summer blockbuster.
It didn't connect with me as a whole and I don't imagine it'll be very memorable - but it's about as interesting thematically as you can expect from such a big money-bags release. That, along with it being fun, and honestly pretty impressive and cool technically - seriously that alien design that looks like an angel straight out of Evangelion is so cool - and some funny moments made me like it as a good experience quite a bit. Also, it has an Akira homage, so it can't get any lower than an 7/10.
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zerohour1974 · 4 years ago
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Day 10 : Top 5 MAME Games
Hello people, here we are again looking at games that I play when in the odd occasion I sit and play games.
Today it's our old friend MAME or the Multi Arcade Machine Emulator to give its full title.  Now it's come a long way since its primary release on DOS in 1997 when Nicola Salmoria released version 0.1 which could play 6 ROMs.
MAME can play thousands of arcades and can emulate many other machines as it now incorporates MESS, MFME and PinMAME into its base now.
So what games do I play regularly, time for you to find out.
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5. Pig Out - Dine Like a Swine (1990, Leland Corporation)
This game is incredibly basic but very fun.  The idea is you control one of three pigs who have escaped from Al's Meat Market and you have to run around the levels collecting 5 jam jars.  You can also collect various other items to eat or throw at your enemies.
It can be played with 3 players simultaneously where you each take one of the main pigs (Oscar,Starr or Buster) trying to get the jam and try and avoid been eaten or made into chops.  
Your main enemies are Al the Butcher, The Big Bad Wolf and various hazards around the levels.  you can stun the two main bad guys using cans, boomerangs and various other items but equally you can stun each other if there is more than one of you playing so be careful with your throwing of items.
If you get all 5 jars you progress to the next level.  There is also a bonus level where you go into a cake shop and you launch yourself about eating the various cakes which is kind of a pinball/breakout level.
Fast, frenetic and definitely fun.  What starts as a daft five minutes has you keep coming back for more.
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4. Mr Do's Wild Ride (1984, Universal)
The Mr. Do Arcade series is pretty well known.  While I admit I have had several hours of fun playing the original Mr. Do.  It's the second game in the series I come back to time and time again.
In this version you control the titular Mr Do. but he has to collect cherries while walking along an arcade ride.  To collect the cherries they are normally at the top of the ladders but equally you must use the ladders to avoid the rollercoaster carts coming around and various objects that are moving around the track.
The game is a simple idea, collect cherries, avoid obstacles, get to the goal.  However in practice it's not that simple.  You need to time your moves very carefully as sometimes you will be climbing the ride and carts will come.  Also you may climb one ladder to avoid the cart, and get hit by one coming on a higher ledge.  So you have to be strategic with your timings.
Never tried it give it a go...   Give the whole series a try...
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3. Knights of the Round(1991, Capcom)
Knights of the Round is when Capcom were making everything they could think of into a beat em up using the Final Fight engine.
So you have the choice of Lancelot, Arthur or Perceval and your job is to beat up anyone who comes on screen.  You can collect various items for points and occasionally health items.
If you have played any of these Final Fight type games you know the drill.  However with Knights of the Round as you progress through the levels your characters will Level up and gain extra armour and speed, your sprite actually looks better onscreen when they do.
All I can say is if you like Final Fight then no harm in giving it a look.  
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2. Frogger (1981, Konami)
Do I really need to give you a description here.  I think Frogger is one of the all time classics which doesn't exactly need hours and hours of dialogue written.
Get your frog from one side of the screen to one of the five  pads on the far side avoiding traffic, jumping on logs and turtles, etc.
Timeless but damned addictive.  Just one more go ...
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1. R-Type II (1989, IREM)
Now most have played R-Type which I admit is great and I did spend many hours playing but R-Type II was much better.
Just in case you have been living in a hole in the ground.  You are in charge of the R-Type ship fighting the Bydo Empire.  Shoot anything that moves and pick up power-ups.
First is the classic pod that you can attach to the ship can be attached front or back dependant of where you want it and it can be upgraded with various firing modes. It will absorb shots protecting your ship.
Fight your way through the various stages to the boss.  R-Type II was just amazing, the graphics are much chunkier, the backgrounds astounding and the transparencies in later levels when you enter the water etc.  It's just amazing.
Is the game easy, nope it will kick your arse many times until you get used to it, but you will keep coming back.
Well thats my Top 5 MAME games... I could have easily done a Top 10 as so many MAME games are fun and of course the range is forever expanding.
So what are your favourite MAME games...
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genocidaltophattedoharo · 8 years ago
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What did you guys get for Christmas??? Anyone get any deals on Steam???
I myself received JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure Manga, all of the Part 1 volumes in a set <3 from a friend of my mother’s and a headset that we had to return because it just wouldnt configure to my computer its the most confusing thing ever everything would work except for i couldnt hear sound out of it whatsoever, but its fine cause my best friend irl hooked me up with an old headset of his thats still in good condition C: So im happy 
I had also bought quite a few things on Steam with steam gift cards I received and some from my own money
1. VA-11 Hall-A Cyberpunk Bartender Action : I was craving a bartending game for some reason and thought it would be a shot in the dark to check if Steam had anything of the sort but damn if i was surprised. VA-11 Hall-A or as its said Valhalla is about a bartender named Jill working in a semi-mediocre bar in this cyberpunk futuristic setting, there’s robots and humans for the most part of what ive seen but i also heard from other character dialogue that there’s even some type of animals that are characters. In short to keep this from being a super long ass post the gameplay is you creating drinks for customers that come in and order and you chat with them and get to know their character sometimes things they say come up later on and each one of them is memorable as fuck dude like even the cynical ones are interesting to talk to :^T. The dialogue is REALLY FUNNY and not TOO futuristic, without rambling on and making ppl read too much its DEFINITELY worth a look.
As someone who usually would be turned off by the thought of a bartending visual novel game, I can assure you dude, its not what it sounds like. If i had a complaint about this game my only sole complaint would be that the Steam description is a misleading intentional joke but i almost dashed it off as one of those dating visual novels if i didnt take a closer look into it. though i guess people who judge books by their cover typically are the only ones missing out hehe
2. Skullgirls :i LOVE skullgirls, cerebella is my favorite to play as
3.Suits : This game is literally less than a dollar like clocking in at like literally 70 cents on Steam right now and even then its SUUUUUPER cheap. If you like OFF like me, you’d get a similar vibe from it like i did. I havent played much but its worth atleast a look at the trailer if you dont like rpg maker games then i dont think itll be up your alley imo
4.Tomb Raider 2013: One of my friends recommended this to me and DAMNNNNNN THAT INTRO WAS BRUTALLLLL, i plan to play this at some point but it seems like a big game to complete so I have it set aside for now but man did it get my attention
5.Papers, Please: Literally havent touched this game yet just heard its good
6.Ultimate Chicken Horse: THIS GAME IS SOOOOO FUN TO PLAY WITH FRIENDS, make sure you’re playing with multiple people though! its definitely more fun with more people. its a cute little game where you create obstacles on the course and whoever can overcome them and get to the goal a number of times, wins. you can play as a cute little sheep,chicken,chameleon,raccoon,horse or bunny as characters too!
7.Grim Fandango Remastered : I really have wanted to play this for some time, i like it a lot so far the cutscenes remind me of like old 90s cgi and for some thatd seem canny by todays standards but i love it, i love that you can physically see the game’s age while at the same time are able to enjoy it remastered.
8. ASTRONEER :This game is really nice to look at and I am dying to have someone to play it with someday soon :DDD I really was interested in playing a space game and Astroneer features you being able to explore planets with friends and do space exploration and such :T. 
9. Psychonauts: I heard this game was underrated, I initially dont know a thing about it other than it was released on the original xbox as an exclusive and that it was 90 cents on steam
10. Dangan ronpa trigger happy havoc : I love the art style for this game’s characters, Ive known about this series since like what 2014?? Was that when these games were made, i saw some shitposts from the fanbase they were pretty neat too, a lot of my friends like it as well but i never actually sat down to play a dangan ronpa game at all. A friend of mine had tried to get me to check out the series by saying you solve mysteries like Ace Attorney, so I had seen half an episode of Dangan Ronpa The Animation back then but I lost interest very quick sadly. Unfortunately at the time I hadnt heard that was the worst way to get a first impression of the series lmao, but anyways, who knows, this could even kick off a whole new type of game content on my blog, the fandom seems to be a fun bunch as well. 
11.Hyper Light Drifter : NEVER BEFORE HAVE I SEEN SUCH SWEET SAVORY GLOSSY BRIGHT COLORFUL PIXEL ART IN A MANNER SUCH AS THIS GAME HAS PRESENTED. it really seems like a game i need to play soon, infact i plan to play it after I beat Valhalla (Even though it has multiple endings HHHHHHH this game keeps getting better). If you dont know what hyper light drifter is my guy, check it 
And that wraps up every game I got from 2016 Steam’s Winter sale. But ive been talking a LOT, what have u homies gotten yourselves over the holidays
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comicteaparty · 6 years ago
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August 30th, 2018 CTP Archive
The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on August 30th, 2018, from 5PM - 7PM PDT.  The chat focused on The J-Man by Jonny Aleksey.
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✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
COMIC TEA PARTY START!
Good day everyone~! This week’s Comic Tea Party is now officially beginning~! Today we are discussing The J-Man by Jonny Aleksey~! (http://jonnyalekseydrawscomics.com/thelatestpage/) For those new or in need of a reminder, discussions about the comic are freeform, so please feel free to bring up whatever you wish. However, every 30 minutes I will be dropping in a discussion question for participants to help those who would like a prompt. These questions are totally OPTIONAL to answer! If you miss out on any though, they’ll be pinned for the duration of the chat once they’re posted~! Remember, constructive criticism is allowed, but the primary focus here is to have fun and appreciate the amazing comic~! All that being said, let’s get started and have a great discussion!
QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
yo
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
HI THERE JONNY
sorry I'll stop the caps locking
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
should I answer the questions too?
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
lol
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
Well, I guess my favorite scene to design was the final pages of #4
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
if you want to answer the questions i wont stop you. though this is basically the only one thats non spoiler-y
and anything specific you liked about designing those pages?
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
There was a lot of quiet still shots . I enjoy writing dialouge enough but visual emotion is more interesting to me.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i do think that shows through the comic throughout. not that the dialogue or other aspects are poor, mind you. but i do think the comic shines strongest when its relying on the visuals.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Agreed.
The comic has a really great art style that lends itself really well to action and dramatic scenes
And the expressive characters
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
yeah. although definitely the action. theres something in the movements that feels immensely fluid.
ironically though, i think my favorite scene is the end of #5. i enjoyed the emotional drama of jonny realizing that the world simply just isnt this easy to define black and white thing. and i think that just adds a good emotional layer that helps followup on the fact that #3 had that sense of moral grayness as well. i also just liked seeing jonny having his own little folders for villains. thats just kind of cute. practical but cute.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
ye
I just wonder when our boy the J-Man will return
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
(working on next ish
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
yessssss
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
#3 was probably the first true character arc in the comic
I'm glad it followed up nicely so far
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Good to hear
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
yes and im really enjoying the balance of the villains. like theres this great moral grayness to them where their motives and backstories are sympathetic. but i like that in this case it doesnt go too far. like the story keeps it clear that nah, theyre sympathetic and have dimension, but theyre 100% the villain and need to be stopped.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Oh, Jonny, I have something to report, if you don't mind
http://jonnyalekseydrawscomics.com/jonny-concept-art
I think the images here are broken
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
oh yeah. I haven't gotten around to fixing that.
There's just so much to do in one day :0
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
I can imagine
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
I keep putting stuff like that aside so I can work on the archive stuff.
but Justin what's your fav scene. I really wanna know.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
yes do tell SJ
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Crap uhh It's been so long ago
http://jonnyalekseydrawscomics.com/thelatestpage/125 bu I'd say this scene was a pretty fun one
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
Oh yeah, that took a long time to make.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
how long?
if ya remember
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
Probably the whole day
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
wow, that quickly huh?
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
I wonder if anyone noticed that pipe gag.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
maybe but definitely not me. now i see it and thats a fantastic detail.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
i never saw it either
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
I like sign jokes a lot. Probably cause of The Simpsons.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
i can see that
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i want to say i really like jonny's costume design. i like the contrast of colors but i also like how its this mix of superhero and street clothes. i think it really expresses his personality well that this is his choice of uniform.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
I remember when he was drawn with rainbow colors one time
as a joke
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
The rainbow would make a cool special short sometime.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
nice
Aw yeah now I remember
you were doing a Q&A
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
His suit got more "professional superhero" as it went along but I'll be damned if he ever loses his sneakers.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
aw yea
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
tbf sneakers seem very comfy for fighting
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
indeed
for me my footwear of choice are boots
cause they hit hard
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Made it. ^.^ I liked the scene where Abe gave Johnny the costume. Like, I know you're not going to quit this, so I've got your back. And you be styling.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
MATH
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
He'll wear boots in the winter
yo!
That was very nice of him.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
boots good for kicking?
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
boots are made for walking
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
abe is the bestest of best friends. abe is the vip. has the costume, has the science, has the loyalty. A+ friend.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
you sure bout that
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
QUESTION 2. Of all the threads in the comic, there is one that stands above the rest: Who is the Big-Man? What do you think the Big-Man’s ultimate goal is? Is he up to something big, or is his goal simply self-profit? We’ve also seen many people are in the Big-Man’s pockets. Do you believe they’ll stay loyal, or will one of them eventually bail and squeal on the Big-Man? What do you think will happen if Jonny discovers the identity of one of these accomplices? What if it is someone he knows? Do you believe, at current, that Jonny would be able to beat the Big-Man? Or do you believe the Big-Man has something up his sleeve? Lastly, what do you think the Big-Man’s next move will be in regards to dealing with Jonny? Will he continue to try and capture him, or will all efforts move to elimination?
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
Ok, this one I can't answer.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
you mean this one?
http://jonnyalekseydrawscomics.com/assets/images/static/Sergei-Sternoff-Updated.png
cause he's pretty big
if you know what I mean
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
no not that one, but fair point. unless this was all a rouse. and if we think sergei is out of the picture well never suspect him of being the big-man O_O
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
Sergei's just a hired goon. Not very bright.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
of course cause he has to follow the dumb muscle stereotype, is that it?
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
(Just reading the backlog. Incidentally, I only made it to the end of #5, the two parter. Lots of pages!)
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
That's pretty far. You only missed the prequel. (Hope we discuss that later)
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
lol
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
I think I noticed that pipe gag in passing, it only really registered subconsciously.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i unfortunately did not include a question about the prequel cause i worried it was too far along, but the questions are optional. and so we can talk about it towards the end if we so choose.
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
ok
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
The Big-Man is actually Johnny himself, who time travelled back into the past and is now trying to set himself up to be a better superhero.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
that would be quite the twist
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
It's the reason he knows so much.
Actually, Big-Man's probably just an extra terrestrial.
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
interesting theory
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
that is interesting and not something that occured to me
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Oh I also found this guy on the site
http://jonnyalekseydrawscomics.com/assets/images/static/Unknown-Man.png
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
who's dat??????
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
it's easy
it's [NAME REDACTED]
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
actually can even make that make sense. he was interested in that one energy project cause the big-man needs unlimited energy to get off earth and get home. big-man just homesick.
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Oh yeah, and there's the Question too.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
so im gonna assume the big-man's goal is something like world domination. maybe on the underground black market level, but some sort of domination. but one thing from this question set i believe is that one of the ppl in his pockets is gonna squeal. someone somewhere is gonna get a conscience and be like, "nah maybe this is a bad idea."
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
lol
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Rebel: I like it! It's why he's interested in the scientists too.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
because nothing like becoming the president for a day or two
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
idk, money doesn't talk
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Does Big-Man need world domination though? He's already got all the neatest gadgets, from the stuff used in the first chapter to whatever the heck hypnotized a scientist to smuggle out blood samples via camera feed.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Nonsense
they ALWAYS want world domination
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Maybe shady Question guy is the squealer.
By the way, the smuggling of samples I think means Big-Man doesn't need to try and capture him. In fact, that whole thing could have been a ruse to distract from the real crime.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
that is true. you could make an argument big-man already owns the world. he has no goal and is just playing with his toys. but then jonny came and he was like "a shiny new toy!?"
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Why not just grab Sleepy Bear though? Seems like an easier target somehow.
Guy's more sentimental. (Which is weird for an AI.)
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
J-Mam is too protective of Sleepy to keep him out of his sight. Don't think it'd be easy to kidnap him.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
lol
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
thats good. i think id be too horrified if sleepy got kidnapped.
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
That is a good point. Would need a decoy.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
decoys fooling the big bad
Never fails to amaze me
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
"Wait, you're not sleepy bear, you're... grumpy bear!"
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
i read that as "Sleepy Bar"
"Come get your Sleepy Candy Bars Today!"
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
Sleepy Bar is what he's called in Boston
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i think sleepy bear was a great addition. because partners are good. and like, its good for the j-man's image. nobody is gonna look at a superhero with a backpack bear and think he isnt the best superhero.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
XD(edited)
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
good PR
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
I also want to give a shotout of my own to Jonny's costume/outfit I like how it almost looks like he's in casual gear or something
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Honestly, sleepy bear creeps me out a bit. I think maybe because of that one panel where he was putting on the outfit, and it felt vaguely like the robot putting on someone else's skin just to blend in better.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
but then you see him from the front and
wait what
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
In terms of someone working for Big-Man who might flip, aside from mystery question man, it could be that female scientist person who got kidnapped.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
gonna blame FNAF. cause i did get FNAF vibes for a moment tbh
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
"Inhale my dong enragement child"
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
But that's why he wears the bear suit. Cause his robot body is scary.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
idk she seems unlikely to flip to me. mostly cause i dont think shes on the end that realizes the extent of evil. that one friend whose name i forget has a dad that got roped in though. and i think hes the most likely to flip and then jonny will be sad realizing the big-man is just basically everywhere.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
orly
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
Jonah's dad is the most sympathetic character for me. Sleepy Bear too actually.
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
There is that. Not sure I remember which friend you mean in context though.
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
Jonah Knoxford, Jonny's friend from Cali.
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Oh, right! Kinda forgot about him, that's plausible.
Could be that Abe's scientist guy friend gets recruited too.
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
it would be reluctantly if that happened
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Yeah, like I don't see him knowing what he's getting into there, but his discovery seemed like it'd be useful to evil purposes if they learned of it.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
maybe theres a twist coming that jonah's dad wanted to protect jonah, but jonah was already working for the big-man the whole time.
to protect his dad
its the whole switcheroo double cross
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Since they're both Jonathans in a way
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Big twist: The big-man is actually the big-woman. It's Jonny's mom.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
hahaha tbf i did consider that possibility. that maybe its a woman pulling the strings. just going pronoun wise by the fact its big-man. XD
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
How better to stay one step ahead of the police than to be married to the chief.
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
Big-Man could just be a code name
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Actually, it would make sense to obfuscate that way, everyone's looking for a guy, you're in the clear.
Big-Man... code... he is actually an AI.
An alien AI.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i like the alien theory over the AI personally speaking. if only cause an AI just keeps making me think of 2001 a space odyssey atm
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
"I'm sorry, J-man. You can't do that."
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
I'm sorry, J-Man. I'm afraid I can't do that.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
QUESTION 3. Jonny would not be the superhero he is today without the help of the mysterious substance Jaintium crashing to Earth. What do you think Jaintium even is? Is it just an undiscovered element as the scientists believe, some sort of sentient, alien being, or a bit of both? Why did the Jaintium-related entity save Jonny? Was he just a convenient host, or was it a good will attempt to save Jonny’s life? Was the Jaintium crashing on Earth a coincidence, or is there something more to it? Whatever the being was, do you think it and Jonny will continue to work symbiotically? Or is there some dark foreshadowing in the fact we often see a mental embodiment of it goading Jonny into more extreme methods? Do you think Jonny will suffer more side effects, whether they are for better (i.e. new powers) or worse? Do you think others will discover the origin of Jonny’s powers (besides those that know), and if so, what do you think will happen to people’s perception of The J-Man?
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
The one answer I'm pretty sure about is that he was just a convenient host. It's interesting that both Jonny and the Alien had a presence inside, kind of making up the whole being.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
crap I stepped out for a bit, my apologies
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Technically, the superhero's name is just "J", isn't it? (That was an amusing bit, where it's like 'I can't use my name'.)
Waiting for the crossover with Q from Star Trek.
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
at first. He's trying to get people to start using J-Man now
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
or Q from Street Fighter
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
"Is this a Q&A? No, it's a Q&J, we're not answering anything."
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
I would watch that
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
I guess it's nice to be thought of as a "Man" when you're, y'know, still young.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
haha i did like him almost using his name and then being like "wtf self." i like how no one called him out on the fact that it sounded like he was going to say something else.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
"you da man now, dog"
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
"I'm Jo... J... J. Jonah Jameson. Wait."
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
The next coming of Jojo's bizarre adventure?
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i do agree with math in that i think jonny was just a convenient host.
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Yare yare daze.
One thing I kind of wonder, was Jonny actually dead? Like, can Element-J actually revive the freshly deceased? Or was Jonny still bleeding out?
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
gonna go out on a limb and say that i think the crash to earth was a bit of both. in that i think whatever creature was in that meteor left its origin point for a reason but that arriving on earth was not intentional.
im assuming he was dead tbh O_O
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
Ooo, I'm saving that question for a later issue, Math
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
itt Rebel influences the future of J-Man
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Rebel: I could go along with that. Might be that arriving on Earth was just the closest place that could support life.
Also, the element seems to be trying to get itself back together, based on Sleepy Bear. Maybe you can use it to find more of the same. They could track J-Man that way, figure out his identity.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
actually could be an interesting conflict. like mr. stone showing up in jonny's living room and then jonny's dad getting home and being like "ITS YOU!!!!!"
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
"You have no chance to survive, make your time."
Though what if it's Abe's father who manages to figure out a way to track using the element? And he tells Jonny's dad?
Plus it is radioactive, even though the cells are preventing anyone from getting dosed. Maybe the half life is such that they can work something out based on concentration in the air.
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
damn I should be writing this down
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
You're free to use anything you like as a red herring.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
this is going on the assumption theyd want to devote the resources to that atm. cause tbh theres probably a lot of other things to learn about the element first.
like why is it stable cause iirc past a certain point most elements are not stable
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Rebel: True. But if Big-Man's been stealing it, maybe the police want to track it to find HIM. J-Man's a fringe benefit.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
and can only be made for a fraction of a moment
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Actually, maybe that's what grapple-girl was measuring. That time she poked J-Man in the eye.
I want to see more of her, incidentally.
I feel like she's that Megan person who had moved back into the area?
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
that was my thoughts exactly too
that it was this megan who was moving back
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
write it all down, please J
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
Most of the mystery I have worked out. Just the little details I could use.
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
I feel like she'd have lots of cool gadgets, because she doesn't have superhero powers (that we know of).
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
lol
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Actually, that's something I'll mention - at first, I thought the J-Man had kind of attracted more evil to him, what with bulking up Sergei and Big-Man sending in goons. The idea that superheros cause supervillains. But then there's been a few like Heatwave who already existed. So maybe not as much?
I wonder if Megan's defeated anyone.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i usually assume with superhero genres its a bit of both
that some ppl are already super powerful
but that superheroes attract more super powerful ppl to be made as well
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
hmm
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
which is logical
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
maybe
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
cause you cant do the evil unless you can neutralize the ppl who can stop you
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Makes sense to me.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
and thats assuming the superhero lady is megan. it might not be even if we theorize the same. but the possibility exists.
i wonder if the jman's world has like a justice league or avengers equivalent
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
They work out of Sweden.
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
Maybe in the future. As of right now the only public-known supers are J-Man in New York and The Valve in Seattle. J-Man's on his own.
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Until Abe gets his superpowers.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
there's more beings with superpowers in this world?
*shot
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Waiting for the issue where Abe and Jonny switch minds.
I'm not even sure which minds - J-Man's head is crowded.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
actually that was a point i thought that was worthy of discussion. is the being using jonny as a host sapient and when we see those mental manifestations were seeing the creature? or is the creature not really sapient and those manifestations are simply a side effect of the joining that sort of splits jonny's mind into extremes?
QUESTION 4. Besides the bigger mysteries, there are many, many smaller mysteries that have been left unanswered. Who is the shadow person who appeared to help Jonny when Jonny was fighting Sergei? Why did they help Jonny, and how did they know about the tranquilizer? Who was the mysterious masked person Jonny met before getting distracted by Abe’s father’s kidnapping? What was the masked person up to? Have we seen the last of Heat-Wave, or will Heat-Wave come back to exact revenge on Jonny or someone else? What about any of the other villains we’ve seen? Do you expect we’ll see them again, or will they stay away for good? On a less superhero level, do you think Jonny will continue to be able to keep his secret superhero life secret? Who do you think might find out next, how, and what will it affect? Finally, what do you think will happen if Jonny’s dad finds out The J-Man is his son?
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
I feel like it's sapient but still very confused by the Earth.
Good questions, I feel like I already talked about some of 'em.
I'm psychic.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
lol
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
is masked lady who we assume is megan a crime fighter or is she more an antihero up to her own business that requires a hidden identity? that is a question we havent addressed
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
I think she's up to her own business, but not necessarily an antihero.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Maybe
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Just fashion challenged.
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
not a fan of black skin-tight suits?
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Actually, maybe she's the blue character in the 'previously' art.
Jonny: .... Got me there.
I still don't think she's antihero like catwoman though.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
looks at his characters with black skintight suits
hides them in a corner
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i do think shes up to her own stuff. my antihero opinions are out until we see her again. i dont see her and jonny joining forces though.
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
We don't know if she was doing any illegal stuff cause J-Man interrupted her. Very rude.
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
True. That's a good point actually J-Man needs better social skills. He tends to assume the worst.
His shades of grey skills are getting better though.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i assume illegal cause she ran off and wasnt doing any crime fighting. although tbf vigilantism is pretty illegal so j-man is, in fact, the criminal
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
"I was the criminal all along..."
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
His dad would be dissapointed
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Could it connect back to the prequel that I didn't have time to read?
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
yeah i really hope his dad finds out. that sounds like such the epic emotional drama
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
On some subconscious level, maybe his dad suspects.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
maybe. idk about that.
i liked that the prequel had mr. stone. cause in the main comic i always was like "man this is a weird lighting choice for mr. stone." and now it all makes sense. its not lighting. the name is just literal
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
He's stoned?
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
Oh man. I hope that wasn't confusing.
I guess I coulda conveyed it better.
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
I just thought he looked pale, I think...
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
Nah, his skin is pure concrete.
He beats up Jon Sr. pretty badly in the prequel
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Ouchie. Stone cold.
So, two things I want to get out there in the last 15 minutes or so. First of all, WOW, how much time has likely gone into this... because I followed the link of the old vs new fight with Sergei, and it looked REAL different. So, a lot of early stuff was drawn twice, I guess?
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
nah its okay. it wasnt something that really bugged me. just one of those hmmm thats odd maybe theres a reason. i just like knowing now and in retrospect i feel sort of dumb for not realizing XD
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
heh
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
Yeah, I first made 6 issues in high school (2011-2012), but I didn't like the art and some story elements so I decided to remake them for the webcomic. #1-3 are those old comics redone.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
that long ago huh?
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Damn, that takes willpower. IMHO.
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
yeah. J-Man now is about 4 years old
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
happy 4th!
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Second thing I wanted to mention was all the little cameos and things that were mentioned to be there from other comics. That's classy, like going the extra mile in my opinion. Kudos.
I also remember seeing Christmas arts on Twitter with some of the people I follow.
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
I like cameos
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
oh yeah I got one of those last year
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
Not sure what I'm gonna do this year.
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
I's amazed at having the time and inclination for all that. Whoa.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
that outfit for sleepy bear is adorable
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Works as nice promotion too.
Random question, d'you think anyone could remote into Sleepy Bear and take over? Does he have a good firewall?
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
It started as a thing to do cause there wasn't a Tapas X-Mas collab last year (and this year too, sadly)
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
seriously, thank ya for the awesome art, Jonny
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
if sleepy bear could be remoted into, that sounds like the makings of a personal FNAF
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
I hope Christmas J-Claus returns this year
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
The Jaintium in him would probably disrupt anyone trying to hack him remotely. I'd have to be a physical connection.
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Rebel: Maybe it's Megan's way of getting a sidekick.
(If Megan's not the girl, this'll look real silly when someone goes through the backlogs.)
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
that sounds adorable. fighting over sleepy bear and who gets to have him as a partner
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
(Maybe if SF does a holiday thing Santa-J will come back)
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
sounds good
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Jonny: Fair point. Interesting how it's not ruled out.
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
And before we go I wanted to say keep it up with J-Man, you've really turned it into something magnificent. @The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
As to mystery masked person providing tips, maybe it's just another manifestation in Jonny's head.
And I think HeatWave will become a hermit somewhere. If he returns, it might be to help J-man at the climax.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i considered that. but perhaps its that one chick from the prequel you didnt read math.
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Rebel: Ahh, hmmm.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i do hope heat-wave returns. and also makes fire puns. "If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen."
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
Wait, we haven't mentioned ships! So, anyone out there shipping Jonny and Abe?
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Puns are always good.
LAST MINUTE SHIPS GO
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
(Actually, some of the bonus art is really cool, like for Halloween. I laughed at the BL one for April 1st.)
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
Don't want to burst your theories but the chick from the prequel was Jonny's Mom.
MathTans the super Pun 👑Prince👑
So Jonny's Mom IS the Big-Man. Wait.
The Undefeatable Jonny Aleksey
This year's Halloween pic will be video game based
Superjustingo of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Nice
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
COMIC TEA PARTY END!
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