#be it diversity. inclusion. breaking societal norms. or the improvement of injustices towards minorities
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I'm so sorry
But in the alternate timeline where Bruce dies in the alley, Martha becomes the joker and Thomas becomes Batman... what if the joker-ication process of Martha is a slow thing. They all mourn the loss of Bruce in their own ways while blaming themselves. Alfred blaming himself for not being there to fight the dude off before anything happens to anyone. Thomas blaming himself for taking Bruce to the theatre. Martha blaming herself for suggesting a nice walk home.
Overtime Martha gets more confrontational towards the two, "THIS IS YOUR FAULT FOR TAKING US TO THE STUPID SHOW! YOU LAZED ABOUT WHILE MY BABY WAS DYING!"
The words getting more harsh until Alfred confronts her in the kitchen saying it's no one's fault and they should work on comforting each other instead of tearing each other apart.
Martha laughs and slowly the laugh gets more psychotic before she takes the knife she was using and stabs him with it.
Thomas finds Martha laughing over Alfred's body, his blood smeared over her face in the shape of a bloody smile and he screams.
They're both broken.
Hi!! Thank you for the ask, first of all. Sadly, everything that has to do with the joker in a story-focused way (aka where I have to put a lot of energy into) Is a bore hazard for me.
#i guess the reason i can't get into the joker is mainly due to the fact that the media chose to hypercomplexify him#in my eyes the line between joker and a regular toxic man is very blurry. for exemple#co depency on other men - in this case bruce - abuse of women. children. justifying terrible decisions on a society#he explicitly makes worse. 'joker isn't actually insane' is a long debunked myth.#insanity -- if we go by classic definition- is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results#joker's actions are repetitive because he WANTS the same results all the time. which makes me think of men#having such a deep seeted hatred towards progress and positive shifts in society. when there's a change in community#be it diversity. inclusion. breaking societal norms. or the improvement of injustices towards minorities#whos the first group to cry? men.#and that makes me think. maybe joker isn't a crazy guy. maybe he's just a regular guy in terrible make up#and you can't get more pathetic than that
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