#bcs theres ships i rly like the romance of and enjoy reading fics and all that. i.e. sebson
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hi hello!! I will be predictable :D vettonso? and also maybe sebson?🤭
Hallo Grace!! Aaaahh two of my ultimate favs 🥹
Vettonso:
Okay I think we all know at this point my feelings on vettonso.....My beloved, my favs, my little dolls to play around with, my forever ship, my muse, etc etc. Lmao tho I do agree w you said in your answer to me, that I feel obviously more invested in my AUs of them atp, but that's not to say I don't like the canon! The canon for me is just desperately searching for any footage/pics of them and being peak derangement abt it and making a whole narrative. Yeah I'm very normal about them. Also yeah, i like the ship itself, but I'm not a very romantic person so I think I often care more about the implications and how they relate to each other, and that kinda thing, if that makes sense? I care deeply abt them, but yknow make a lot of AUs, and the most fun I have is often trying to fit their narrative into different environments! One day I'll draw more shippy stuff I swear 🤧🤧 They are just perfect to me :)
Sebson:
One of my first loves 🥹🥹 I still really love them aaaahhh!!!! They're just so soft and fluffy and comforting to me!!! Obligatory Solar Flare mention. But yeah it's hard, just like the other ship above, to articulate my thoughts about them that isn't just screaming. It's just so fun to look at all the content along the years and see how they gravitate towards each other. To me, they're the 21st century blueprint for emotional support rivals 🥹🥹 Also, sending them to superhell for the amount of insane things they've done in public.
#lmao its hard to say how i feel abt vettonso bcs theyve almost become ocs to me#which ig is mainly bcs its sooooo unlikely we'll get anymore stuff of them#so yknow stuck digging at the bottom of the barrel for content of them#and thus making my own stuff and being increasingly deranged about them#tho i will say. 2023 Japan. never forget 🫠#but yeah i think sebson and vettonso are in dif ship categories to me#bcs theres ships i rly like the romance of and enjoy reading fics and all that. i.e. sebson#but vettonso is more like one of oc ships. where i care so much abt the dynamic and characterization and story etc#and find it hard to draw more romance things bcs i just relate and love them so fucking much#if that makes any sense???????#tho will say. last night imagined drawing them in boy king au all rumpled in bed together so. maybe you'll see that at some point#and chair wip </3#lol hope my conclusions abt them make sense to more than just me. like i love them so much that theyre mine to me and i move at a slow pace#catie.asks.
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also 001 zc im springing it all on u
spring it all on me baybee. i’m ready. i’m thrivin
Zay & Charlie
When I started shipping it if I did: oh if i were a viewer, i think i’d be sniffing out this storyline EARLY. literally from the moment charlie leaps up to volunteer to tutor him in 103 and then is all “you’re so unapologetically yourself” with all that Awe i’d be like... mhm. okay. mhm ok mhm mhm mhm right mhm....... although i think i would be skeptical. i would be kinda like (as i think some of you were) are they actually going to go through with this...... are they playing me 4 a fool.... but then when you watch 112 after so much build and theres the RUNNING ACROSS THE CITY TO GET TO THE AUDITION AND AINT NOOOO AWWWYWYWYWYWYAAYWAAYYYYY AND THE LOUVRE KISS LIKE WAHAHAHWAHWAHHHHHHH AHHHHHHHHH -- yeah i’d be in it from there. you don’t see it coming going INTO the first season, but to be honest zc kind of Owned the first season in the later half there. they were subtle in some ways but then they really just brought the mf PUNCH
My thoughts: so. clearly. i love them. fdkjshgkjsg i think i have a lot of fondness for them because they really organically blossomed in the first season in a way i wasn’t expecting. as y’all know, we broke the story for the second season first and then backtracked to s1, and i will be candid... charlie was like... not a person when we first outlined s2 JFGDSKLGKDFGKLFDH. he was in a relationship with zay, and it was supposed to be this big surprise going into the second season, but otherwise we really didn’t like... know what to do with him or honestly had THOUGHT about it. but then as we started working on s1, he just kind of... emerged, as well as their storyline of barely acquaintances to friends to unexpected lovers. and i really really love what they grew to be. they’ve been one of the best parts of writing the show tbh and i have so much fun writing their scenes, even when they’re challenging (cough 208 cough, one of the most difficult scenes i’ve ever written in anything ever)
What makes me happy about them: i love how they see the other person for who they actually are, how they can cut through the bullshit and see the other for how they wish they could be seen (charlie seeing zay as more than the popular “cool” kid that he has to put on as a sort of defense to survive at aaa, and zay seeing charlie for who he actually is beneath all of the facades he’s created to please the rest of the world) and how that allows them the courage to try and actually BE those things. like. charlie may not have ever gotten to a point of really considering accepting his own sexuality if it weren’t for zay, i think -- especially since zay then gave him this incredibly SAFE space to figure it out AND loved him at the same time. i love how they demonstrate such a Balance for one another (there’s that key word again!), like how in s1 a core part of their friendship is the fact that charlie seems to be the only person zay really has who cares about all the things he cares about but also isn’t... a crazy monster the way everyone at aaa is fDJSKFLDG. and zay brings balance to charlie in showing him its okay to have fun, to be imperfect, to throw a swear word around or not give a damn sometimes or do things just because he wants to. and that’s important! that’s major! and then i just love love love how they’re playful with one another but it comes from this very sincere fond place. their dynamic would not be what it is without their sort of teasing nature, but it NEVER feels like it’s coming from a place of animosity, it’s always this affectionate kind of banter. i’m really picky about how teasing translates into romance, and i think the way they make it work is a fave thing about them for me. i’m forgetting like 4324325 things i wanna say here but i love them MUCHO
What makes me sad about them: so. hm. yeah. you know how there are those otp ask games or gif memes and there’s always that category that’s like “it’s right, just not right now” ships? i have always disliked that category bc i think people constantly misinterpret it (or its just a poor label to apply to a ship lmao), but i think they are actually a perfect example of what i think that label is supposed to represent. charlie and zay are 100% right, but not right now. they can’t be right when charlie is still trying to figure out so much of his sexuality and his sense of acceptance, because no matter how much they love each other it’s just not fair to zay to have all these conditions on their relationship. like, it’s great that he likes him enough to be okay with it, but it shouldn’t be that way in a truly healthy situation. yknow? and when the rules keep changing or grow to be confusing (i.e. how charlie seemed to be improving in 207 but then backslid majorly in 208), you end up with like... well, miscommunications like 208. and those can be brutal.
Things done in fanfic that annoys me: again, i’m just projecting based on my experience in fandom and observing fandom, but here are a handful of things i think would be common in zc fic that would drive me up the wall. 1) babying and/or pandering charlie to the point that he’s just like... this uwu baby gay that completely strips him of his complexity, surprisingly sharp sarcasm, all his uneven edges and quirks, etc. 2) fetishizing of them both or more specifically, racism surrounding the portrayal of zay 3) a complete bashing of charlie’s faith, as that goes against how he’s written + his arc as a character [ like if you gotta work thru ur own grievances with organized religion then by all means, but it would probably bother me bc of his characterization and im literally not even religious lmao ] 4) banter that crosses the line and goes into that territory of lowkey bullying or tasteless that is a squick for me
Things I look for in fanfic: so of course, characterization that allows for the complexity of both of their characters would be A1 from day one as usual. would always love something that highlights the dance thing since that is... so important to their relationship in the show lmao. people who could capture their delicate balance of banter would be whew!!!! also random but i thought about it earlier today -- when winter olympics rolls around again, who is gonna write the ice skating au? it’s only a step or two away from dance y’all, let’s SEE IT!!!
Who I’d be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other: zay would make the best of any relationship he gets into, but he and riley could be cute as i have mentioned before (altho i naturally prefer them as best friends, but they would treat each other the way they deserve which is important). there’s a character coming in s4 who i actually really enjoy with zay, but that’s a spoiler and neither here nor there... as for charlie, i again will make my vague comment about appreciating lucas x charlie... and that’s all i can say on that.............
My happily ever after for them: god i just. i want them to be happy and in love. and i mean that in that they’re happy with themselves, so they can be happy with one another. like, TRULY happy without all these conditions or strings attached. and to be able to be happy together IN PUBLIC. literally can you imagine. CAN YOU IMAGINE??
Who is the big spoon/little spoon: hmmmmmm again, i think it would vary. but i think my inclination is that typically zay is the big spoon, although i will say i think charlie is overall more cuddly (not that you’d ever assume so in public bc he’s so repressed DSJKFJDSKLGFDLKG)
What is their favorite non-sexual activity: i assume we wanna discuss the ones... that aren’t dance DJSKLFJDKGJFDLKJGKDJHLKDH. aside from the obvious, i really do think zay and charlie like to go out and explore together and just like... share experiences. like going to art museums is a big one, and seeing live performances. art is something that really connects them and i don’t think that can be understated, and one of their favorite things is experiencing art together and then getting the other to talk about their opinions on it. i also do think that while zay isn’t big on literature, he can be swayed if charlie reads to him. art completely aside, i think they like to go to the grand central market and browse / try new things. they also like window shopping, but that’s kind of funny bc their styles are so different so they’ll be like ooh and the other will be like rly. FDNSJKFDJSLGJDSG. omg they should have a day where they just get to dress the other person up all day in different stores... THERES a fun activity... zay is dressed head to toe in GAP and he’s like please set me on fire fJDSKFJDSKLGJKDLFG
send some winter hiatus asks !! or try this one
#zay x charlie#THANK U LENA#winter hiatus 2019#on god... on gOD do they know how much i love them#maggie#judahslewis#answered
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SHIPPING INFO // Answer the following for your muse(s) so people know how shipping works on your blog. REPOST. Don’t reblog.
WHAT’S YOUR OTP FOR YOUR MUSE?: #atticus and richter ( but pls dont assume my answers here are the same as starlings muns would be! )
WHAT ARE YOU WILLING TO RP WHEN IT COMES TO SHIPPING?: anything romantic with him ive already started im willing to continue & im open to new casual ships with his fallout incarnation. im probably not gonna be able to write him loving anyone as deeply as he loves atticus at this point so its better to have other focuses than deep romance if you wanna have a new pairing with him ( flings / crushes / poor matches etc ) im not rly into writing nsfw if im not comfortable with the mun ( but, superficially, i aesthetically enjoy drawing things i wouldnt be into writing - but obviously u gotta be 18+ for that and it goes on the 18+ blog )
HOW LARGE DOES THE AGE GAP HAVE TO BE TO MAKE IT UNCOMFORTABLE?: goshhhh im picky about this. i usually do that ‘half his age plus 7′ thing but im more uncomfortable with him involved with younger women as opposed to younger men ( its mostly me not liking how ppl idealize older men and esp to the point of devaluing older women ) also its sorta like if they dont have a lot going for them to begin with a big age gap will count against any interest for me in the pairing but if they have other stuff going for them i might not be so bothered about age stuff. (also if for instance ive rped countless verses with someone i dont mind switching things up quite a bit bc i know we are really about the characters rather than it being to do with the things that make me uncomfortable )
ARE YOU SELECTIVE WHEN SHIPPING?: yessssssssssss i need chemistry between both mun and muses. and im just old and tired so if ive already got a lot of great ships going i just dont have as much deep interest in new stuff
HOW FAR DO STEAMY MOMENTS HAVE TO GO BEFORE THEY’RE CONSIDERED NS.FW?:
lol if theres lust in the atmosphere i move things over to the nsfw blog. and even then its fade to black time on tumblr before genitals are being touched... i have continued nsfw things in discord in private but i have to be sUPER comfortable with a mun for that to happen
WHO ARE OTHER MUSES YOU SHIP YOUR MUSE WITH?: marcie and xavier and gwyn and theres like twenty other lighter things lol
DOES ONE HAVE TO ASK TO SHIP WITH YOU?: i kinda feel if someone knows they want to ship with me before our characters have interacted enough for it to feel like theres something naturally going on between the muses ( or just their storylines ) then were probably not on the same page as muns and its unlikely well ever really harmonize shipwise anyway? you can say right off if your character is attracted to mine and ill probably let you know what richter thinks in return. and you can always ask about the nsfw blog if you are over age 18 and wait another century for me to do a meme there again one day and we could do casual stuff maybe lol
HOW OFTEN DO YOU LIKE TO SHIP?: when i really ship something i cant stop talking about it but in general i think im less into shipping than most ppl bc when ppl do lots of shipping calls and things like that those things never appeal to me & sometimes make me uneasy about approaching others since we dont seem to be here for the same stuff lol... but sometimes i get in the mood to draw characters interacting and sensuality makes it more interesting so i get in the mood to do memes on the nsfw blog. that hasnt happened in awhile bc ive been busy tho lol
ARE YOU MULTISHIP?: yes but chill and selective and its really just in his fallout verse. most his other verses are smaller and theyre closed verses with starling ( if like the dishonored one gets bigger it might become multiship except hes an even more difficult character to click with there so im thinking of just leaving it single ship as far as richters concerned regardless of how much the verse ends up being used [ this is definitely one of those things where u shouldnt assume what im doing with richter reflects what will be done with starling bc now dishonored is starlings main while its still a side one for richter ( even if its all i think about lately ) ] )
ARE YOU SHIP OBSESSED OR SHIP MORE-OR-LESS?: im obsessed with atti x richter but chill about shipping in general orz
WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE SHIP IN YOUR CURRENT FANDOM?: attirichter. tbh i always liked reading general fics and stuff rather than ship things. it wasnt until i got into rp that i started ever shipping things and ive still usually got to be rping something to care enough to ship it ( or it has to be something straight up canon ) thats why i think i still overall am not as into shipping as most ppl on my dash seem to be. my mind isnt really on those things unless theres a huge history and foundation and personal investment brought in lollll
FINALLY, HOW DOES ONE SHIP WITH YOU?: if our characters naturally have a spark between them and naturally want to interact then let it develop... alternatively just talk superficial aesthetics and i might relate more. u could tell me if youd like me to send in a shippy meme thing and ill let you know if theres a reason it wouldnt work - but like if you wish id send that stuff in and our characters have never really interacted thats a big sign im probably not going to be into it?
tagged by: stealing it from @hvmanmachine * tagging: u if u wantttt i stole it bc it looked like a good meme!!
#(( this is a huge thing i filled out im sry#and its like bedtime so its all rambly#but i think im odd about some of this stuff so it seemed like a good opportunity to try to put it into words lollll#i might fix it up tomorrow or something haha sORRY ))#by littlezas#about shipping#(( i had to cut it bc long lollllll ))
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