#bcos they're all shitty

[scentedpeachlandcreator]

Honey, don’t even waste ur precious time and energy on people who aren’t worthy of it.if I were u I would look and ignore cos all they want is attention and best reaction is no reaction

People like them want proof but when the proof is there they find excuses just bcos they feel bad about themselves, so saying harsh things makes them feel better but in reality it doesn’t. So pls don’t interact with those shitty people don’t wanna lose you too you know!

That’s all hun. Love you

Aww thank you 😭🫶🏻💗.

Well i won't reply to them anymore cause they're just waste of my Time.

If they don't believe me or what i Say well it's their problem not mine.

I'm just so proud that i found out the cheat code to life and that i believed it and used it in my daily life

Love you too sweatheart 😚💗.

Xoxo, Eli

[sandraharissa]

Arcane is so good bcos despite how tight the writing is and how the more I think about it the more sense it makes I still have NO idea what's gonna happen the next season, it could be literally anything. how did they do this??

Will caitvi get together or go their separate ways post-explosion? will Jinx live or die? will Vi and Jinx be sad over what happened or will they hate each other now? will they manage to reconcile or not? will Warwick be a positive or negative influence on Vi/Jinx/the story? will Vi becoming an enforcer be a bad thing or a good thing? it could go either way with all of these, there's not really any story or character reasons for why any of these could absolutely not happen.

With maybe the exception of Vi and Jinx reconciling. bcos they represent the two cities and the war can't go on forever they're probs bound to reconcile even if it's going to be to a limited extend. even ignoring the characters we simply NEED a resolution for the political conflict and also for all the tragedy to have meaning we need at least a semi-happy ending.

Despite all the shitty irreversible stuff that happened if at the end we can look at the bigger picture and see how we went from Vander and Silco failing to reconcile to Vi and Jinx reconciling against all odds, triumphing over what feels like their pre-destined ending, now that'll feel like it wasn't all for nothing. Like a bunch of shitty things happened bcos they were unavoidable but the cycle of the piltover/zaun conflict and violence that caused it all was finally broken.

[sarcastic-doodle]

When the antis for KC come calling...

So, @morleybell got an ask on the above topic, and I wanted to reply to it,but it got too long so I thought I’d make it into its own post. So the question was what to reply to antis who claim Klaroline is abusive.

Here goes :

Not even in the fandom since s5(never in tumblr!tvd fandom like ever) but I do skim the tag every once in a while. Came across your post, loved the general gist of it, but would like to add some and clear up some stuff you passionately stated in bulk😆, if you don’t mind. I’ve been wanting to get this out for a long time.

I think the crux of this whole matter is an element which is called a ‘morally grey character’ ; you know the ones - not entirely a villian but too twisted to be a traditional hero. Obviously there are naysayers who say Klaus doesn’t fit into the mold of someone w/ grey morality, hey haters gonna hate but the jury’s still out on that one apparently even though it’s obvious. Moving On. More on this later.

• agree with the SC part. If one looks at the whole picture from the start, Caroline got shitted upon and shoved to side by the writers and her supposed ‘friends’ right from the start in favour of Elena even by stefan. The afterthought. The girl every new male addition to the cast(not all but close) hooked up with. The secondary character whose romantic plot usually has their fan going “uhmmm not exactly the one I’d choose for her. This is just settling” because hey!one needs to fill up the episode, right? Who cares if she was a second choice?

For me, Klaroline came in at that part of the plot, where I was just about tearing my hair apart because the MF gang were really pissing me off. Caroline was never a priority, everyone was willing to let her be collateral damage in this ever revolving war against elena, she was just supposed to accept that her best friend is dating her assaulter. I mean I get that she is the cornucopia of giving, but thats what friends are for! To make these givers realise that enough is enough, now think about yourself, make yourself a priority. The Caroline I fell in love with initially, the one with the big dreams, the one who wanted to live live to the fullest, explore the entire world because yes embracing vampirism gave her that opportunity….That Girl was entirely diminished by the end. There’s growing up and having responsibilities and then there’s having to grow up because of not-their-doing responsibilities. Klaus had come in a AT THAT CRUCIAL POINT. I remember thinking ‘yesss, she’s a priority for once’ also ‘idc if this relationship works out or not, but this one can be her ticket and reason to move out of that soul-sucking selfish town and friends’

• IT’S A SUPERNATURAL SHOW. This. Funny and irritating why people forget this. The show depicts them as these all encompassing, good in combat and strategy, well versed in lore of the centuries, sensual, blood-drinking vampires…I’m afraid that goes hand in hand with blood and sex and murder and deceit. If you want a century old virgin goody two shoes, I believe you’re in the wrong franchise. For this show, its not about who is good and who is bad, it’s about who is evil and who is more evil, and that too is relative on how you define evil/what you consider evil. Also what’s blatant in this fandom, is the hypocrisy. This is what I wanted to especially expound upon :

So what irritates me about the fans the most is their hypocrisy. Also the puritan fanaticism some have embraced and loudly preached. I wont even include DE and Damon in my arguments, i think they’ve been discussed at length by all (like it deserves to be) this is better explained with Stefan. When people say Klaus is a mass murderer and has killed soooo many people over the years, ergo klaus is evil but stefan is my innocent bae(not verbatim but the intent is obvious)…. conveniently forgetting the fact that stefan killed so many people too, went ripper twice, in his 300(?) yrs…had he lived as long as klaus lived…who know whether the number would have risen or not (hint : it will)Imagine living on and on for so many years, the world around you changing, civilisations changing,people you loved dying, but you’re set in stone. Immortality has been romanticised like all get go, but realistically I can’t imagine someone not going absolute nutters every once in a while whether or not you have a reason to keep living on. The show has shown only the positive sides of Stefan and his dealing with vampirism which in turn makes him appealing, but I can’t imagine someone with Stefan’s characterisation - the broodiness and the guilt - would live a long innocent life. Psychologically, something will always make him crack. I know I’m coming across as someone who hates Stefan which is simply not true. S1-3 Stefan and S1-4 Caroline were my absolute faves. Believe me, I only watched the show until then for these two. But I realised we do excuse his murders w/ - he didn’t want to, he feels guilty, he repented, it’s out of his control. But ultimately clinically speaking(with my inner stefan fan supressed)…There were dead bodies. Families mourned. Lives were taken. Stefan regretted it yes, but it doesn’t give them their life back. None of these vampire’s victims (Salvatore’s, Mikaelsons’,Forbes’) are coming back. Why do we not still hate stefan or any 'good side’ vampires for that, but love to do it to the Mikaelsons?

Second thing I mentioned was puritanism. Simply put, this goes in the good box ; this goes in the baaaad box. Some people differentiate characters like - this is a good person(can do no wrong) and this is a bad person(be suspicious of this one’s dealings ) from the initial interactions and context of the show. Characters on the 'Good’ side in the start, are reveled for doing 'a thing’ ; but if a potentially grey character from the 'Bad’ side does the same 'thing’ they are jeered upon for doing it. Am I saying don’t point out and jeer evil wrongdoings of evil characters? NO. I’m not trying to be apologist for villains, most deserve what we throw at them. BUT But but, in this case, on this show, is the line differentiating them really that clear? Are these 'good’ and 'bad’ characters exclusively on those sides? Like you mentioned, Kol is killed, Klaus retaliates. Had a sibling from the 'good ’ side been killed by the Mikaelsons, pretty sure they’d have retaliated the same way. We cheer one but jeer the other? Why? The deed is the same, cruel and inhuman on both accounts, yet we celebrate one and mourn other?

What people instantly think when I say this, 'you’re probably a person who excuses abuse in real life too’'you believe this…you must be horrid in real life’….*shrugging* A. There is a clear divide between fiction and reality. one I have to actually live in and the other is entertainment. Damn sure I can differentiate between them. B. There is an actual sense is not automatically trusting the NiceGuy, everyone has flaws if you look hard enough, they’re gonna come out eventually I’d rather not be lulled in a false sense of security. I’m not saying The Mikaelsons are good people and they just need some lurrvvve and understanding. What I’m saying is the Mikaelsons are shitty. But so are the Salvatores. So is Elena. And sometimes so is Caroline. If its just fiction, isn’t it hypocritical thay we only hold few accountable, but excuse the behaviour of the rest?

When people say KC is 'abusive’ I always take in with the idea that it’s because Klaus is heartless mass murderer. Which he is. There’s no going around that. He IS NOT a good guy. That stabbing didn’t really make sense to me…why did he do it? But tyler’s mum yeah…if you can excuse the council for their behaviour, don’t be a hypocrite please when the favor is returned. On a completely different but still related note, this is similar to the bullying topic in HP. When it comes to being bullies for whatever reason, people easily excuse the marauders because ultimately they were on the 'light’ side. But draco is held accountable even though he was technically younger than james. But back on the topic at hand.

But KC? Like you provided the lines and to anyone who watched the show….Caroline was not impressed by him. Attracted to him?Sure. But she never acted on it at all until 5×11. She kept questioning his motives, was suspicious of his moves, never defended his actions, brought up his misdeeds to him when he tried to pretend to be a good guy, tried to sneakily gain favours from him utilising his interest in her, it goes on and on. You never hear a single praise for him from her lips (as far as I can remember) All she did was that she gave him a benefit of doubt. Try to understand his motives rather than just IDENTIFY. EVIL. KILL. Try to understand that someone who has lived this long, what goes on thay ancient head, did he ever want to be human? , how does he justify his misdeeds? But Was it enough? Well canonically, apparatently not.

And I get it. I’m not saying excuse the murders by the Mikaelson’s too. NO. I’m saying hold all of them responsible. Caroline. Stefan. Damon. Klaus. And then critic the characters after that. Don’t claim some sort of moral high ground when there isn’t any.

This show, these writers…when given enough screen time, they could redeem an irredeemable villain of their choosing. Seriously, for real. (Damon gets it but Katherine or Kai(this one would need toooo much work) doesnt) and people lap it up. Basically, it’s on the writers on who they choose to get to be the GoodGuy, which villian gets forgiveness for the misdeeds even though the other villains did the same thing. I don’t watch TO but I’m sure they gave 'reasons’ and 'backstory’ on why Klaus behaves the way he does. I mean if you think in a critical analysis sort of way, that is how a redemption arc works. You get to know the inner workings and history of the protag and what experiences made them the person they are, then it’s upto the audience whether or not they forgive them.

But I digress. What is the main point of this entirely too long rant, is that saying KC is abusive is just absurd. Not on this show, not in this context. If its klaus that is your problem, you better have a problem w/ the rest of the lot too. Also he is the one guy who was the only one who asked Caroline whether she would like the cure instead, didn’t use her solely to get to elena, prioritised her, didn’t think Caroline’s love to plan and shop and everything that does not scream stereotypical intelligent girl as shallow and superficial, gave her plenty opportunities to make something more out of her life if she wanted with or WITHOUT HIM. If she wanted to fly free alone for a decade or even a century or two, go for it as long she came back to him when she’s had her fill. Yeah, that just screams abusive and controlling to me😒

Bottom line anti kcs, I’m sorry you wanted this to be a black and white clear issue so you justify your hate. But it’s simply not. I’m not saying KC IS an angelic done-no-evil ship, but when ships all around are pirates, what’s another one,eh.

Also, might as well reiterate, I haven’t seen the show after 4×22, just kept up w/ the show from a lot of different shipper’s (SE, KC and SC shippers too unfortunately) blogs and my sister who watches the show, so I might be off w/ some of the facts. If any of them are blatantly obvious and it’s because I missed something crucial in the remaining seasons I’m tagging the people I’ve seen answering KC qs or were active in their KC defense so this post is refined @my-ownfairytale @klarolinedrabbles @jonsnowbitch

[equalseleventhirds]

the more i grow & learn as a player & a gm, the more i feel like for me, gming is most fun when you make clear to players that yes, they may attempt any action they want, and even succeed at it--but they can't dictate the consequences

one of the problems ppl talk about is shitty players going 'well but a nat 20 means i can do anything', to the extent that they do legit impossible things. and ok, that is shitty behavior, & should be curbed with properly discussing rules with ur players and saying hey, i know this is funny, but it's not fun to break the game like this, and it's also not how the game works

but if, for whatever reason (players just being assholes, or someone legit thinks this game-breaking action is feasible & then they succeed) you are in this situation, just. let it happen. and then let there be consequences.

like i think one of the examples of shitty players is like, 'i rolled a nat 20, i shoot an arrow all the way into the sun and put it out'

well, ok. you shoot an arrow all the way into the sun. you don't put it out, the sun has more hit points than that, but ur down an arrow.

.....and then many sessions later, bits of the sun start falling (it's high fantasy, we can do that). or sun aliens come for a visit, and they're mad you killed their leader. or, or, or.

make it fun! work it into your story!

will it stop players from being assholes maaaaybe not, and tbh if they are not respecting boundaries fuck 'em and find a new group, but you'll have more fun with it this way. and fuck over players who are being dicks. and, if well-meaning players do stuff beyond what works in your game, you can mitigate the effects without taking away the victory of a really good roll from them (bcos just saying 'you can't do that' or 'you try but it doesn't work at all' kinda sucks after a good roll), plus plant the seeds of a fun adventure later.

*pls note that one exception to the 'you can't do that' bit is like, if they are crossing a boundary you're uncomfortable with wrt game content. at that point it is less 'that is impossible' and more 'i am not comfortable roleplaying this', but again that is a thing to communicate, pls use safety tools in ur game!! a lot of stuff from my early d&d sessions wouldn't have happened if we'd used proper safety tools; my players sometimes tried to do things i didn't want to roleplay, and then i took it away from them kinda abruptly. communication! is! key!!

[rdps01]

hokay i got some anons asking for my morally-grey!dwight thoughts (evil cackle) all according to plan /j

my brain is still sludge, i cant form any coherent thoughts atm so for now have these ramblings from when i popped off in the esteemed headcanons channel of our discord server

i apologize in advance if my typing was hard to read ;;

i definitely did see him as that friendly, patient, leader kinda dude at first and i still kinda do but honestly its so much more fun portraying him less like that, mostly cos of my other interests influencing my view of him lol. i wouldnt worry too much about being too OOC in his case bcos ,, character? what character

i think at first he'd definitely try to be friendly and noble and sweet and whatever but i think that part of him dulls over time, now he just wants everyone to survive partly bcos,, thats kinda their main goal, and partly cos it'd be convenient to him

(talking 2 bsf about his "i need you to survive so i can survive" quote) at first he would try to be a light in the asscrack of darkness they're in right now, but i feel that would burn out and thats where this quote comes in. if hes gonna survive then hes gotta have someone with him

bestie: "Omg I actually really like that... That quote being more of a 'survive with me/survive together' than a selfish thing in a way"

me: dgmw very very very deep inside,, it could be a selfish thing. it has been a selfish thing at some point but he tries not to be swayed by it

i mean like.. i think "prove thyself" started out as friendly encouragement but over time, it's dulled a bit and its more aggressive rousing than anything. dgmw he still tries to sound friendlier but it can and will take a toll on his patience. in general, in trials he's a bit meaner? he just wants everyone to get out but his methods can get hurtful and he knows it. sometimes he's outright refused to heal someone cos it could take time off doing a gen, when he does try to stitch up wounds he does it hastily and it hurts ofc. hes definitely told someone to endure his shitty handiwork on them one too many times. outside of trials though, he's his usual nice and friendly self and apologizes profusely to anyone hes hurt during a trial, either physically or verbally lol

ofc his teammates in a trial arent just relegated to complete fucking tools, now Thats OOC. i think he'd do anything necessary so everyone lives but not in like. the best way.

im willing to portray him as anything but the uwu soft baby boy most people see of him :)) my dwight is basically "this isnt a corruption arc i swear hehe,, maybe." its fun to think about. bleak, but fun

shoutouts to all my morally grey glasses-wearing white boys who are occasionally seen covered in blood,, yall were the blueprint. shoutouts to those anons, this is all your fault. and shoutouts to @allexiaah for being lovely and powerful and for enduring my dwight-crazed rambling

[taegularities]

Hi I'm here to vent 😭😭😭 I'm sorry, you can always choose not to answer i just needed an outlet. Please don't feel obligated, i would understand if you don't read/respond.

I had a falling out with my best friend from school because she misbehaved with my boyfriend. When i confronted her about her behaviour she told me I'm a shitty friend and that I've never been there for her. It's not true, but that's a different story altogether. So basically we had a falling out but i called her after sometime and we agreed to stay on good terms. This was like 4 years ago. Recently I found an old picture and sent it to her just to laugh about the memory and she told me she was getting engaged. I was happy for her, i even cried lmao, it took me back to school days when we used to joke around about getting married. Anyway, we video called and she told me she was getting engaged, she wanted me to know before I got to know from insta lol. I was happy for her. She invited me too, so i said I'll come. We we 4 close friends in school, she is still close friends with the other 2. A few days ago she called me to tell me that they're not inviting many people to the engagement due to rising COVID cases and it'll be an intimate thing between family members. She said she'd let me know if things changed. Now this trip for her engagement would've been my only chance to see my long distance boyfriend who i haven't seen in 2.5 years. I was counting on it, she knew it. I told her already. When she told me it's going to be an intimate thing and they're not calling people, i was upset obviously. 2 days ago, i saw that the other 2 friends have most definitely gone to the engagement. It wasn't intimate. It's pretty clear she didn't want me there but i wasn't raised to be judgemental so i will give her the benefit of doubt that she mightve forgotten to tell me. You know what's funny? I texted her 5 days ago asking if everything was set for the engagement. she had a chance to tell me then, she even replied to my message but then left me on read. Why am I feeling betrayed and hurt when i know she was capable of this? They didn't even try to hide their stories on insta. So basically if i feel shitty, i feel shitty. They don't care. I am genuinely happy for her and i only wish her well but i am also hurt. She should've had the courage to tell it to my face if she didn't want me there, i would've understood. Why am I crying over a friendship that was broken years ago? Why does it feel like it broke all over again and the wounds just reopened? I don't even feel disappointed anymore, i only feel hurt. The world is a shitty place, rid. I'm not sure i want to raise my kids in a world like this. I guess I'm more upset about losing my only chance to meet my partner (she knows everything about our relationship and how hard it's been for us) but being made feel like trash by an old friend is a close second. Irrespective of everything, i did reply to her story congratulating her. I just cannot let my kindness wither away because of some random people.

I feel lighter just writing all of this down so if you read this at all, I'm thankful for you for listening. I hope you're having a great day. If you do choose to answer this, thank you. You're kind and amazing. Also your fics help me escape pain on a daily basis so I'm grateful for you. :)

-S

hey hey! it's okay !!

hmmm 🤔 so i’m speaking out of experience, bcos i had a falling out with a friend like that before as well. but i think there are things you both should think about. i feel like it’s super valid but also a little unfair of you to only look forward to the engagement bcos you’d be able to see your partner. after all, it’s a big day for her, and it should be about her, too ofc. though i really truly get your feelings, too, because i understand wanting to see the boyfriend after such a long time.

and regarding your friend. you said she is still friends with those other two, but you and her just reconnected a while ago; which was just a few conversations, right? so i also kind of get why she would invite close people and those she doesn’t talk to anymore not. like, if this ex-friend of mine invited my other friend but not me, i’d know why; because we aren’t in touch anymore, so it’s valid. that being said, i don’t find it cool of her though that she invited you and then uninvited you, but didn’t give you more information on that :/

i’m so sorry you feel hurt, she could’ve definitely communicated with you. but do also remember that she’s (probably) not a big part of your life anymore, and that she can do with her engagement and wedding whatever she wants to. just the way you can do whatever you want to! you are both not obliged to please the other. remember that people come and go, not everyone stays, and that those who hurt or upset you aren’t worth your time.

she doesn’t seem like she wants to bring back the friendship you once shared, and that’s okay, because that’s how life works, i think! your feelings are all valid, and i hope you feel better soon. i’m really happy that venting helped you tho !! as well as my fics, it’s so freaking nice to hear that you think that 🥺 <3

[sukirichi]

I feel so bad for Nagisa, Y/N and Y/N's mum, ofc I understand where Nagisa is coming from but ugh I feel extremely frustrated over how she treats them and how they just accept it because they believe it's what they deserve, but they're also as much victims as Nagisa is ,in this situation. AND Nagisa AKSBFJFB I wonder if she knows that Y/N and her mum didn't know that the guy was married before he married mum and that the reason the dad came back was because of Mum sending him away. Again, I understand her but her physically hurting mum and the whole dinner mess was just so UGHHHH. My thoughts about Nagisa is so conflicted idk why, UGH that sperm donor needs to be castrated for putting them through all the pain.

I haven't gone through this much emotions in my entire life as I have from reading Broken Records😂

anon yeah omg I get where you’re coming from !! all of them are victims from the shitty dad (hiro) who single handedly ruined two families, his daughters, and both of his wives like he fucked up real badly. and about nagisa, I can’t comment too much on what she knows or doesn’t know as it’d be a spoiler hehehe but she’ll definitely be shown more in future chapters. nagisa actually plays a huge role in yn’s character development. also YEAH PLS like she didn’t have to hurt mama lucy like that and embarrassing yn in public like SJAKAA honestly if that was me in yn’s shoes, I probably would’ve cried SHJAKAL. n everyone hates on the sperm donor, as we should !!

and omg I take that as a compliment, like I’m so happy to hear you feel a lot of things by reading my fic AAAAHHH you really made me happy with this one anon <33 NOT BCOS YOU FELT FRUSTRATION ASAKLA but I meant that I’m always so grateful to receive feedback n to hear everyone’s thoughts on my works, so yeah, from the bottom of my heart, thank u so much !!

[elizaabethcomstock-blog]

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[equalseleventhirds]

i mean, my 2 cents as both a poc and one of the people who like... accidentally started a lot of discussion about this

i don't think that the solution to this is to redesign jon to be universally portrayed by fandom as white; like op said, the real problem lies in canon refusing to give a race to a character played by a white man, but what fans do and what canon does is different. and it's become such an established part of fanon to have brown jon that entirely walking that back now is kinda shitty (and tbh, inasmuch as we do have to deal with 'aracial' characters, i think having designs of a wide variety of races is probably better than any one universal design, just for like.......... not establishing a universal fanon. i hate universal fanon in general, but this one's caused... issues.)

certainly i would not ask you, anon, to undo your designs of jon, especially bcos you're a poc. like, if you are uncritically following the 'vaguely brown but no stated race/ethnicity' thing a lot of fans do, it might be best to like... do some thinking about that. but i think a lot of poc recognize that there are cultural differences, and especially those of us that project onto characters (hi, yes, filipino!martin my beloved) tend to like. do something specific with that. instead of 'ah yes look We Draw Vaguely Brown People, good rep!' like a lot of white fans do.

similarly, if you, anon, are prepared to really fully explore the deep and specific horror of what it would be like for sasha as a poc to be replaced by a white person? obviously warn for it, and think hard about it, but that is a valid take on it. the issue a lot of people were mostly having was that white people would do it ~for the aesthetics~ and not even seem like, aware of the extremely specific horror this is for people of color. definitely be careful about it, but i've seen it done with care a couple of times by actual poc. (i would hesitate to tell white ppl to do this, even with a sensitivity reader, just bcos it is so very much not like... a white person's place to be telling the story of a poc who has her life stolen by a white person? i mean, i'm sure it could be done? but talk abt like, irony & poor taste.)

(also, if you make sasha and not!sasha both poc and the same race, it doesn't really read as a racist joke??? like, we know what the not!them does. we know characters haven't forgotten sasha bcos they're racist. 'someone could interpret this as racist if they really really reached' is kinda... look, i've recently had white ppl say i was racist for saying white ppl who repeatedly tell accidentally-racist stories should maybe steer clear of those stories for a while, ppl will stretch to ANYTHING. do your research and try your best, and most people will engage in good faith.)

but mostly what we've been asking of white fans (of all fans, frankly, but it's white fans who are most egregious) is to a. think critically about how they portray race in fanworks, and b. think critically about portrayals of race in canon, and how changes in race can change the actual messages of the work. and 'think critically' doesn't mean 'criticize this and then never ever do it', it just means! think really hard about it! analyze it and figure out what messages are being sent, both by canon and by fanworks! (this includes messages about race, messages about the overall themes about power and privilege, AND like, unintentional advertising that comes from fandom.)

like, i feel like tone has been less 'never ever portray aracial characters as poc EVER', but more 'think really hard about what you're actually doing, and listen to poc when you fuck up'. there are good, thoughtful, nuanced ways of portraying a bunch of different headcanons. we've mostly just been asking that people take the time to like, do that, instead of using poc as an aesthetic.

(also wrt you can't whitewash fanon: you can't whitewash fanon. if you portray sasha and not!sasha as white, no one can tell you you're whitewashing. well, obviously people can, but it's fucking bullshit?

in fact, cards on the table, i think more fans should engage with what a white jon would mean for the messages in tma and how they interpret his character. not really walk back all their fanart/fanfic/etc of brown jon, but take some time and think about the text itself, fanworks put entirely aside, and what it would mean if we saw jon's actions as coming from someone who looked like jonny sims. how we'd feel about how he treats annabelle and mikaele and oliver and even jude perry. how we'd feel about his power in the apocalypse and even his actions as a boss in early seasons. etc etc etc.

this is entirely separate from fan creations and is mostly abt like, my constant urging for people to separate critical analysis of canon from What Is Good Fun in fandom; tma as it is SHOULD make ppl slightly uncomfortable, especially white ppl forced to confront some Stuff about privilege. but also if you do this, when you come back to making fun headcanons and fanworks, think also about what your race/ethnicity headcanon for jon changes about how you treat him, compared to how you'd treat him if he were white. like, i've seen some stuff where ppl make other characters absolutely tear into jon for being a privileged dick... while also portraying jon as a poc and those other characters as white. like, his race changing DOES change some of the dynamics, u kno?)

I've seen a lot of discussions about the implications of drawing jon as brown and i figured you'd be the person to talk to about this? (you can ignore this if you don't feel like replying!!) so here's the thing - I'm brown and i really like brown jon. i like being able to project onto that. but yeah i think i get what everyone means when they point out things that are wrong with that. but on the flip side, white jon designs are a minority and it would also be weird to suddenly revert to drawing him as white, i somehow feel like that could also have implications. also I've lived through the age of white Cecil and that wasn't very great either.

which got me thinking - while i completely agree with the criticisms about the fanon designs, there isn't a clear solution to any as far as i can see? having both sasha and not-sasha be of the same ethnicity could be interpreted as the racist joke where white people can't tell poc apart. having them both be white would feel like I'm whitewashing the fanon designs which is completely stupid because they're FANON but i hope you understand what i mean? anyway ghfhdgs i hope this doesn't come off as combative, I've just been trying to figure these out for days and wondered if someone else had an answer. have a nice day!

I'm going to give limited opinions here because while it's nice you thought of me, I'm a white teenager and while I have extensive TMA and TMA Fan knowledge I am definitely not who should be giving The TakesTM on stuff like this.

I do actually remember the days where white Jon was the most common, and the shift to ~ambiguously brown Jon~, at least to what I saw, definitely took over art far faster than it did fics. Which to me implies it was on a very aesthetics based level rather than one of exploring what the text would be like with him as a POC, let alone any one specific ethnicity, which is obviously very emblematic of a lot of the problems of people just copying off the guy next to them's art and going "Look it's Jon, we can all recognise that it's him because he's got the same 3 or so traits each time" without thinking about how that actually reflects on their interpretation of the text. But, exactly as you said, it would be weird to suddenly have those artists redesign him as white. So I'm not sure if there's an actual answer there, at least not one that I can give? Something that fans can't even be entirely blamed for, because of course that kind of shit is going to happen if you have a white man write and play a character and then refuse to give that character a canonical race. It's going to become messy and it's just easier to write with a character's race in mind.

I get what you mean with Sasha/Not!Sasha and from what I've heard others say it's best to keep them the same ethnicity, but I don't think you can really white wash a fan design since it's a fan thing and white washing implies a sense of canon? I haven't heard anyone bring up the "white people can't tell POC apart" thing but I would assume that would only be a problem if you Sasha design was the only POC in the archives.

But again, I'm white so nothing I say here should be taken as instructional so if any POC want to add on with their opinions please feel free to do so.

[binareff]

Also this reminded of one shitty ex that got offended to hell and back bcos he found a friend's private blog and I told him very firmly but gently Not To Access It At All otherwise I'd be very sincerely hurt since. It was y'know private and dudes have this thing where they think they're entitled to your girl friends intimate secrets so yeah.

[bi-privilege]

hi ! i'm sorry i hope this won't bother you. there's this one person on tumblr who says the most hateful, biphobic shit i've ever seen and despite knowing who i am (hopefully not a shitty person) and what bisexuality is and isn't, etc their words have gotten to me very deeply. i've blocked my browser from reaching their blog bcos it'd be masochism. they're on the "bihet" train, call bi women "nut huggers", say that bi women abuse lesbians' trust, etc etc. i feel awful so i wanted to come to you

hey anon, sorry i am just seeing this. blocking is right thing to do in this sort of situation, so you did good. i wish i could say something that would make all the awfulness you experienced go away, but unfortunately i can’t. maybe take some time away from tumblr to hang out with bi friends/watch your favorite movie/visit an animal shelter and pet some cuties?

in the meantime, here’s a picture of my cat:

[cirillafionaelenriannon]

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[foxstens]

Oh man :/ that sucks big time i guess it explains why ro is quite stagnant rn. why do you think that is? is it bcos theyve been brought up like that similar to their parents & had religious "indoctrination" from school? or maybe they're too occupied with their own lives and the downsides of it to bother caring about marginalised ppl? what doesn't help is the fact ro brushes over the crimes ro committed in ww2 against Jews in history classes & the enslavement of romas - it means to lacks remorse

yeah it’s pretty much a mix of those. and also how in school we never discuss such things. like even if someone brings it up teachers rarely comment or if they do they’re racist too like. and this goes for other kind of -isms as well. it’s shitty but idk if it’s gonna change in the near future, with the rise of the far right all over europe and considering how much we like copying others. we’re so focused on /just/ getting rid of the leftovers of communism that we wouldn’t notice if in the meantime we became fascists like. and we also don’t get really educated about fascism? like i had a great history professor but even with him we only studied like.... 1 page about fascism. and then 2 about nazism. and then around 15 about communism just in romania. so. yeh. it sucks

[equalseleventhirds]

like, if (some of) fandom has grown to understand that queerbaiting is not rep and is in fact a cop-out and marketing tactic to pull ppl in without actually giving representation. they can understand the same abt 'aracial' characters created & played by white ppl. maybe. someday.