#bc ur still the same guy and now ur pissed that ur kindness gambit to solve the puzzle of ur existence didnt work and now u
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joelletwo · 9 months ago
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has gintama fandom already had the umi-style "(metaphorically comparable to) DID or not "/distinct people or just personas argument about shouyoutsuro where do ppl land on that. i keep having it in my head on the side of the onis being (oh they are one but many) just the one guy but expressed differently.
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#umineko spoilers#vaguely. idk. the concept gets introduced early but.#sopping wet gintoki posting#the utsuro is the extreme of the shouyou and vice versa. they share the same sense of humor (being a dick to people) and#the same concern for maintaining humanity in its boundaries re: gin (keep thinking about utsuro's Villain Speech in the final#that starts with goading him about the pointlessness of killing his teacher and friend and ends with the can you stand living in that--#emptiness/utsuro? which is. a demoralizing villain line. except when its from utsuro who i dont think has any real reason to#be. Emotionally cruel for the sake of rubbing in a point. (only emotionally cruel when it alleviates boredom or is about gin.)#bc why would he care about proving points or convincing ppl of his beliefs he is a force of nature he just does things. u know.#forgot where i was going. um.#to say. the line becomes. anguished in his facial delivery. it is a warning. it is an extension of. how u continue to be. how to say.#parented by the ones who raised u even after ur severance from them (by death or becoming an adult). u keep absorbing the#lessons they gave u. and the lesson shouyou gave gin was. u are a human stay a human do not follow after me. we are not the same.#which is a debatable point but its the one he wanted to communicate.#hanging parenthesis -> )#squinting. had more to say that i forgot. I JUST THINK ABOUT THEM CONSTANTLY NOW.#the schroedingers unnerving stare baby who isnt utsuro OR shouyou until gintoki treats him like shouyou and then he remembers hes shouyou.#the shouyou that dies and immediately wakes up as a bitter and spiteful utsuro. <- thing i think about SO MUCH. why is that a given.#why immediately into evil rather than shouyou again or a different version of an oni that could seek kindness.#bc ur still the same guy and now ur pissed that ur kindness gambit to solve the puzzle of ur existence didnt work and now u#dont believe in the power of friendship anymore.#I LOVE THEMMMMMM.
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