#bc let’s be real who cares about some random person online who doesn’t agree with you??? I don’t know why some of these people waste their

[sadgirlautumn]

Haterism is so bad anymore. Like did you know if you don’t like something you don’t have to keep engaging with it? I think that’s the problem with these algorithms that show you “what you want to see” because I think they just show people the same haterpilled content over and over again causing them to get angry about this person they don’t even know and having to complain about them again. There is no reason to be constantly hating on celebrities and their fans. There is no need to be arguing with someone on anon when they have a different opinion than you and you know your argument will never change their opinion. Like yes i’m chronically online as well but it’s not normal to be constantly hating on people. Please move on and engage with stuff that you actually enjoy if you want to be online so bad. 😭

[itsarealshitshow]

Stray Kids’ reaction to falling in love with a fan secretly

Requested by anon

Pairing: Stray Kids x reader

Warnings: None

Author: Admin Wiki 

Scenario: Each member has a secret fan account to keep up with their fans and to secretly interact with them. Eventually they make friends with a fan online who thinks they’re just another fan. However, now that the members have fallen in love with you, what will they do?

Bang Chan (Bang Chan or Bang Chris)

Chris already knew that stays knew about him having a secret twitter account. He started it as a way to stay connected with his fans and to see what they thought about recent comebacks or what concepts they want to see. But now he mainly uses it to talk to a special fan that captured his heart. You’d messaged him first wanting to become friends and mememates. At the beginning of the friendship, both of you agreed to keep your identities anonymous. However, it wasn’t too long before Chan was head over heels for you. 

To be honest his first reaction is just staring at a wall thinking about the situation he got himself into. It seems unreal that he’s fallen for a fan he’s never even seen or met in person. He’ll want to come clean about his feelings but because you guys are anonymous he thinks it’d be weird. Chan will slowly start hinting that you guys should video call or show each others photos of yourselves. Eventually when you reveal your face, he will too. 

He’s all like “let’s go on skype to see each other for the first time. It’ll make it special” and bam his face is on the screen. You were so confused and when it finally hit it was over for you. He’ll confess his feelings to you that same night and hopes that you like him too. 

i mean if chan appeared on my screen i’d piss myself and be so flustered. i would definitely say yes to him. y/n is always living the life i want 😪 

Lee Know (Lee Minho)

He’s literally only ever on his secret accounts once a month. He probably never remembers about them until Felix sends him something and is like hyung please look at this. However this one time, Minho noticed he had a DM from someone other than his members. This intrigued him and made him look at it. He quickly becomes more invested in the platform that his secret account is on. 

He’s literally only on that certain platform for you. He hasn’t seen your face but your personality and mannerisms definitely ensnared him. Which is also something his members quickly realized. Felix teases the hell out of him about the fact that he only ever checks the app to see if you sent him something. 

This also makes him realize that he likes you. Someone who he’s never seen, never met, never spoken to. It makes him question himself and his feelings for a little bit. bc to be honest with you guys talking to someone online is way different than talking to them in person. especially if you like them Without a doubt he tries to keep it secret from the members, but Chan figures it out way too fast. Chan being the absolute dad that he is, encourages Minho to confess to you. Chan’s encouraging works because Minho plans on confessing to you as soon as you know his real identity. 

Seo Changbin

He’s both the person who never goes on his secret account and the person who’s always on the app. It stays the same even when you guys start talking. He can be on it for a week straight or he won’t be on it for a month. But of course when he’s on it he’ll take the time to actually respond to your texts. You always text him theories that you’ve seen and funny memes that other stays have made. 

It’s before one of their comebacks when he’s writing songs that he realizes that he’s fallen for you. It’s something that helps inspire him during his slumps and that makes him happy to feel. He’ll keep it to himself for a long time but after his realization he’s definitely going to go on his secret account a lot more than usual. He won’t disappear for a month and will start to talk to you consistently. He can’t believe that he’s fallen for a fan. To him it seems like something that rarely happens and that he should appreciate. 

Huang Hyunjin

He definitely has like a tiktok or instagram account to see what the fans are up to. I feel like he’s really good at blending in with his account, not making it too obvious it’s him. Cause Felix or Jisung would accidentally confess their real identities. He’s the one who started to talk to you first, wondering how you felt about their recent comeback and what you think their next one would be. You’d send each other memes, crack videos and so much random shit. 

Eventually you’d be the one to ask if you could send each other photos of each other or maybe go on a video call because you’ve been talking for a while. You’re just curious and if he’s okay with it you want to see each other. He’ll send a photo of himself and be like ‘I don’t think you’ll believe that this is actually me’. So of course you’re like ‘Send a photo of yourself with Chan and the both of you with toothbrushes and teddy bears’. Something specific like that and he’s like 😐  girl I’ll just video call you. 

He already had a crush on you before seeing you, but after being on video call together he quickly realizes that he needs to tell you how he feels before someone else snatches you up. He doesn’t care that you’re a fan because in reality you’re just a regular person who idolizes him. A while after you guys started to video call more frequently and he’s certain you’re good and the one for him, he’ll confess his feelings.  

Han (Han Jisung)

He’s not as bad as Felix but seeing as they were literally born a day apart, they’re pretty much the same. He’s definitely got a secret twitter, instagram and tiktok. He’s on them as much as he can because they’re all really fun but we all know that he’s also writing songs and in the studio all the time. 

When he starts talking to you it’s both of you clowning stays. You’re all like “hii I know we haven’t talked before but I like the stuff you post so here’s something I think you’ll like.” AND NO CAP HE’S PROBABLY ALREADY FALLEN FOR YOU. You guys talk a lot after that and there’s multiple times where he’s revealed his identity and that you just sit there all confused. He’ll quickly be like “haha I’m joking.” 

Finally there’s a time where he suggests you two do a video call and you accept. But mans forgot that you’ve never seen each other and he answers your call both of you just sit and stare at the screen like 👁 👄 👁 . He’s “ahaha yeah um, hi. I’m Jisung, what’s your name.” He kinda panics about liking a fan but soon after that video call you two organize to meet. And when you finally visit him he’ll confess. 

Lee Felix (Lee Felix or Lee Yongbok)

Felix knows that we know he has a secret twitter and tiktok account. It’s so painfully obvious. Of course none of us have found it yet so maybe we’ve already unintentionally interacted with him. 

In not so new news, there’s a clown right here. When he first started his account he started talking to a select few people and quickly became friends with you. On multiple occasions he’s accidentally said things like ‘What did you think of my comeback?’ or ‘What do you think of my new hair colour?’ and send a photo of himself that hasn’t been posted yet. He quickly realizes his mistakes and covers them up by changing the sentence and posting the photo to the Stray Kids instagram. 

It takes him a long time to realize that he likes you. It’s Chan who makes him realize it by asking questions about you and seeing Felix’s reaction. Every single time Felix immediately smiles which makes Chan tell him that he should confess. This causes Felix to panic. You were a fan and he was the idol you adored. Would you be with him because you genuinely liked him? or just because he was an idol? 

He decides that he has to confess either way or else he might start drowning in his feelings. 

Kim Seungmin

He doesn’t seem like one of the members who has a secret stan account. Like Chan or Felix stole his phone and downloaded it so they could scroll on it if they didn’t have their phones. One day he gets a notification from one of the apps Chan and Felix downloaded onto his phone. Curious, he opens it and sees that it’s you sending a meme and are like “Your comments are super funny here’s a meme I think you’re gonna like.” Seugmin was like “Oh uh sorry it’s my friend who uses this account I’ll show it to him for you though.” Quickly though, Seungmin starts using the account for himself and starts to befriend you. 

It’s not until Felix accidentally looks at the texts you guys have been sending each other that he realizes just how he feels. He realizes after he gets mad at Felix and telling him it’s an invasion of privacy to just read these intimate texts. i mean it is but i’m more relaxed with people reading some of the texts that my friends and i have sent. He’ll want to confess to you pretty soon after that incident. To him it doesn’t matter if you’re a fan or not because he likes you for you. 

I.N. (Yang Jeongin)

He’s like Felix and Jisung. He’s on his secret account all the time but no one really notices because he doesn’t make references all the time. He loves being on his secret accounts and talking to fans secretly. It makes him feel closer to fans when comebacks are close. 

You direct messaged him first which is what made the friendship blossom. You two send each other memes of his members and of just random things, like shows you two watch. It takes Chan talking to Jeongin about you to make him realize how he feels about you. He gets super nervous about the fact that he likes you. This insecurity comes from the fact he feels like if he were to reveal his identity you’d like him because he’s an idol you like and not for him. He’s not going to want to confess anytime soon sadly because of his worries. 

[pommegranatte]

Yo hetalia literally has the phrase "axis powers" in the title, as in the Nazi germany-japan-italy trifecta that existed in WWII. I understand that some people need a place to go to, but the actual Nazi show does not seem like a good choice

Hey there. I can see why you’d say that but i just don’t agree. I’m not sure i can articulate this very well but I’ll try. People are treating this show like it’s the nazi propaganda hour show. It’s really...not. It’s a relatively stupid show that from what i remember is about 5-10 mins per episode. It’s got...questionable things to say about certain subjects but that’s kind of all i remember. Anyways, my main point kind of isn’t hetalia (i haven’t seen it since i was like 15). My main point is that no matter what the media is, it does not justify making fun of or bullying or whatever anyone. I believe people should let others be into whatever it is they like and not try to tell them what they should or shouldn’t like. You do not think it is a good choice whicnis perfectly fine. But to someone else, it’s what they like. I’m not going to tell them what to watch. That’s on them. And I’m certainly not about to make fun of them for liking it. I think if people want to say “don’t make fun of people” and then turn around and find something to make fun of them for what is even the point of saying it in the first place, you know? You never know why someone is into whatever it is. You don’t even need to know why. If they are into something “weird” and they act in a way that is actively dangerous to others then by all means thats the time to step in (not by bullying though, there are other ways to affectively get things done). But random ppl online liking some anime about countries? Who cares? Yes it is axis powers. It’s ww2. So? There’s plenty of games and media about these things. I think people know that nazis are bad (well, besides nazis lmao). Calling it the “actual nazi show” is such a stretch. It’s really not. I just think...this is all blown out of proportion. Because the real meat of that post boils down to “i dislike this show bc of how it depicts certain things. Anyone who likes it is therefore an acceptable target to Harass.” And that’s the part that i just don’t understand how anyone can agree with. An unrealistic depiction of some events in ww2? Being acted out by the anthropomorphised version of countries? That is mostly dumb shows? For goodness sake’s, england is a fucking wizard. I’m not sure how that translates to “actual nazi show.” Maybe I’m missing something. Idk. Do i think people into “problematique” media should be harassed? No! I legitimately do not care what it is because i don’t know WHy the person likes it. I know people who ARE into ww2 and guns and shit. And people would totally harass or bully them if given the chance. But why? Just because they are interested in these things? Because they may find certain aspects of a war interesting to learn about? Because the mechanisms that make guns worl fascinates them? What’s bad about that? Is it because we associate these things with people who harm others? Why is taking an interest in something equal to being part of the group doing harm? That doesn’t make sense to me. You can be into something and be totally divorced from the majority of people who are usually associated with it. Take me for example. I am into what people assume is “hippy stoner shit.” Am i stoner? Nah, i can’t even be around the smell of weed. But I’m always associated with them because i like the culture of it. Just taking an interest in it automatically groups me in with it. I don’t that’s quite how it works. I think the issue is...complicated. There are certainly people who are interested in things and actively do harm to others. (Like ppl into radfem ideology usually tend to be radfems or terfs themselves). Somaybe i should probably say that the issue is alot more complicated than i have the eloquence to convey. Since i amrambling at this point.

Tldr; I’d probably say in short that you shouldn’t want to automatically harass or bully anyone solely because of their interests. You should at least try to understand WHY they are into something before making an assumption as there are a multitude of reasons for teir interesrs. And if that’s something you don’t want to do, that is fine. But unless you have evidence of someone doing or saying harmful, you really should just let others be. And even then, harassment is not the answer. Just don’t harass or bully people.

Now, first thank you for being kind and not being insulting. I hope i haven’t come off as too rude. I just really, really can’t tolerate bullying for any reason. I would appreciate it if i didn’t get anymore questions about this because I’m just going to keep saying the same thing. Thank you!

[janiedean]

direwolfpupy

https://direwolfpupy.tumblr.com/post/165119300407/incblackbird-nederys-lordhellebore the discourse that your pals started, NOT tagged thramsay..... where incblackbird & nederys were so awful i had a panic attack at work. so like... lol i don't care about them they trigger themselves by continuing to defend their homophobic torture porn.

direwolfpupy

i didn't even know she existed before she jumped down my throat for NOTHING. why should i care about her now? none of you guys showed me any care in that hideous debacle. why should my friends care about what you think AT ALL. i mean, even lordhellborne agreed that incblackbird was in the wrong. yet no apology, just more and more terrible shit. i specifically didn't use the name thramsay so it didnt' show up i n anyones tag on mobile. and yet she starts her post bitchily

direwolfpupy

telling me how to spell their ship name, wrongly. given the amount of bullshit that follows it, that's some funny shit. your friends write homophobic torture porn to cope. i turn people who were awful to me into  memes to cope.

replying to everything here bc like hell I have patience to do all of them one by one.

1) my pals didn’t start any fucking discourse. a) you go and call thramsay shippers satan IN A POST PEOPLE COULD SEE, b) your friend tagged both anti posts THEON GREYJOY and they SHOWED UP IN THE GODDAMNED TAG. if you had done that in private or WITHOUT IT ENDING ON THE THEON TAG nothing would have happened. your pal apologized. consider following.

2) if you think you’re gonna guilt trip me think back on it. any shit I could give about your guilt tripping went out of the window when you purposefully lied and accused me of condoning child porn including real people, which I did not do in any way shape or form, and that’s slandering and harassment, and you can bet your ass I’m not dropping my report on you. actions = consequences. if you work you’re old enough to know that. and I’ve gotten guilt tripped by too many people in my life to let you do that to me when I’m fucking almost thirty. grow. up.

3) ‘I don’t care about them triggering themselves’ so excuse me why the hell should they care about you? no, why? if you don’t give them basic decency you won’t get it. and it’s not homophobic. THEON IS NOT GAY AND NEITHER IS RAMSAY. stop mixing politics and fandom. honestly. it’s bad for you.

4) i didn't even know she existed before she jumped down my throat for NOTHING. > she didn’t jump down your throat, SHE ASKED YOU TO NOT GO AFTER THRAMSAY SHIPPERS. which you did so well you went in public saying that you and your friends were laughing in a chat group about triggering people.

do I have to add anything? ps: I have receipts and I screenshotted everything.

5)  even lordhellbore agreed that incblackbird was in the wrong. yet no apology, just more and more terrible shit. i specifically didn't use the name thramsay so it didnt' show up i n anyones tag on mobile. and yet she starts her post bitchily >>> I don’t see why the fuck merel owes you an apology when the fanart post was made especially to bait her and it was said openly. re the rest, @lordhellebore showed me the post you meant WHICH IS FROM ANOTHER DISCOURSE FROM A MONTH AGO AND NOT THIS OCCASION wow nice to spin it the way you want, huh? also merel sure as hell didn’t do anything other than replying to you but oh, I SPENT THE ENTIRE LAST TWO DAYS SEEING YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS OPENLY TRASHING HER MAKING NAMES. like the proper mean girls clique you are. how amazing!

and yet she starts her post bitchily telling me how to spell their ship name

aaaaaah yeah she probably didn’t tell you because she doesn’t owe it to you but she said I could say it so: SHE’S DYSLEXIC, YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE, and she probably also wasn’t too hyped at being shamed at all over again, it can happen that someone dyslexic misspells something and what do you do?

suddenly she gets FIVE anon asks with that sentence c/p-ed.

five.

and you are the bigger person when either you or your anon friends go in the askbox of someone dyslexic making fun of them for misspelling?

lol.

I’m keeping my mouth shut re the rest when it comes to how fucking out of line y’all have been because it’s not my place to say it but just let me tell you: you were so out of line you can’t even imagine it and if you knew you’d really feel bad about it. but like, hey, what’s with being assholes to people online? *shrug* they can’t suffer same as you, huh?

your friends write homophobic torture porn to cope. i turn people who were awful to me into  memes to cope.

never mind that thramsay isn’t homophobic but I’ve explained this shit to hell and back and if you don’t get it you never will, but my friends cope with fake thing happening to fake fictional people, you cope by turning REAL PEOPLE into memes? the person your friend said got turned into a meme in your group talk wasn’t even awful to you, they were explaining you something, and it’s really fucking shitty to do that.

and if anything, IT’S SHITTY TO TELL THOSE PEOPLE YOU’RE DOING THAT. do you realize how fucking out of line it is? especially when those people also *cope*, and btw the person referenced above doesn’t even fucking write torture porn?

fuck’s sake, I superimpose a specific dude on ronnet connington every time I write about jaime punching him in the face, I don’t go tell random men online that they’re all sexist assholes at the first chance in order to cope with the fact that that asshole ruined my self-perception of my own image.

but keep on telling yourself you’re morally better.

ps: i’m still reporting you for the pedophilia thing and I sure as hell hope that the staff gives you at least a fair warning.

and by the way, guilt tripping? I spent a day feeling like shit because y’all made me feel like I was back in middle school except you were putting my friends through the shit I was put in that I wouldn’t wish on anyone, not even you, so can it with trying to making me feel bad because I’ve been done with that shit a long time ago and I won’t.

[imanes]

do you think that "influencers" and celebs should speak out about "political issues"? (putting it in brackets bc. it's clearly an understatement n not accurate but idk how to word it) re: palestine? cause i've seen a lot of people be like "yeah they shouldn't talk about it if they're not educated or if they're just doing it for the trend" (even tho at this point its been so all over social media that ppl cant use the "im not educated enough" excuse anymore) n all and i guess it's a fair point and all but also? idk when i'm on social media and i see ppl talking about what's happening in palestine, and then i scroll down and see ppl be like omg new haul uwu! vlog with my friends! and thats just so???? idk. idk what to think bc on the other hand ofc performative activism is bad ykw? (like....re: blm ppl just posting a black square on their ig....) but i don't know what to think about it and i would love to hear your thoughts!!!

inchresting question to which i have no concrete answer to provide (except a lot of ramblings) because it is a thorny subject related to the ubiquity of digital society and the social weight we give to a certain class of people who frame their existence as something that could represent us but actually doesn't at all. and everybody and their mother - including me - has an opinion on it but at the end of the day it's just an opinion, not an empirical fact to be presented, and not even one i think about a lot bc it isn't a primary concern of mine on a day to day basis. so i'm like not looking for a debate with some random tumblr user (not talking about u anon, but talking about whoever might care too much about my inconsequential opinion) bc this is a question i'm answering, not a question i'm asking so to anyone tempted to "well according to the encyclopedia of pfppspfpsp" me, make ur own post!

i guess we can start with "should influencers/celebrities/people who are famous by virtue of being well-known even exist and should we lend weight to their words?" the answer to that may vary from person to person but social media accounts with a very large following can indeed turn tides with regard to socio-political crises, such as demonstrated by bella hadid who single-handedly educated a whole generation of south-korean netizens through her posts on palestine so we can see the good effects of that. now obviously bella hadid is personally concerned by the ethnic cleansing of palestine and has a lot more at stake than say rihanna with her all lives matter bullshit statement (someone said "saudi dick must be potent" but i think it has more to do with her contract with puma who is actually on the BDS list) or even jameela jamil who has a terminal case of "everything must be about me always".

people can say whatever they want about what well-known ppl are allowed to speak about or not but i'll just remind that these "influencers" and whatnot are people and they're bound to want to talk about stuff, especially when it is relevant or when prompted by their own following, because literally everybody with an account on a social media platform expresses their opinions about smt at one point or another in time. that includes random ppl on facebook commenting under news with their stale hot takes. famous ppl or "influencers" are no different.

I'll also say that "influence" only goes so far so I'm not *particulary* concerned with whatever whoever that i don't take seriously says. let me take the queen of talking out of her ass jameela jamil as a case study for this. people who agreed with her bizarre and narcissistic takes are already bound to agree with her because people flock to opinions that are similar to theirs. in my opinion that is not influence, that is attracting similar weirdos in your sphere and consequently creating impenetrable echo chambers of idiocy. did her stale ass take become a "consensus" amongst the indecisive? i don't know for sure bc i haven't run a survey but my assumption is that people who have critical thinking skills were rightfully put off by her rancid take and called her out publicly for it, providing sources and information, which i think is visible enough for anyone 2 look through. and people who like her talk and think out of their asses were like "wow preach i've been saying!" so they are themselves inconsequential.

so in my opinion it is less about influencing - because at this point i think someone can be influenced by a single person into buying a product but your fave singer is not going to make you buy into their ideology just because they released one lukewarm-at-best statement - and more about signaling where you stand. when viola davis and idris elba (amongst many others) stated that they stood by palestine, they made it clear that they stood against apartheid and ethnic cleansing and people who already agreed on these basic principles saluted their stance. do i believe they changed anybody's mind? not really, that is the job of well-informed people such as activists disseminating information and other people sharing the info. do i think that mark ruffalo lost all credibility with his flip-flopping? absolutely, and it doesn't reflect back on palestine, it reflects badly on HIM. we're in an era where people are bombarded with so much information from all sides that one person saying something is a drop in a bucket no matter how famous they are. this is also why we say that israhell lost the PR war. we were and are too loud 2 be ignored now and a few celebrities showcasing how inane they are doesn't change anything. the famous-ppl-market is too saturated for their opinion to matter a whoooole lot. support is appreciated but not hailed as the second-coming jesus u know what i mean?

to address ur final point about finding it weird that some people flat-out ignore some stuff while you are neck-deep into it, I think it's an understandable situation to find yourself in and as subhi taha said, it just looks tacky. i think it should be your cue to just unfollow whoever doesn't align with your interest content-wise. i unfollowed a loooot of people lately because of that like I really didn't give a fuck about Michelle phan's cryptocurrency peddling (which was already yikes on principle) in the midst of real-time live-stream decolonisation and liberation struggles against apartheid and ethnic cleansing, and at this point I don't think I can go back to caring about using social media for frivolous things (except cats and memes account bc they bring me joy) and following bigger accounts that are trying 2 sell me some shit, because I've changed in the past weeks, one could say I've become more "radical" (lol) and I'm ready to sustain an online space that caters to my concerns and abandon all content that I indeed find tacky in between two posts that talk about some serious shit. it's not to say I'll never post a pic of the sunset on Instagram again or that I don't consume content that has literally nothing to do with informing myself and disseminating information on decolonisation and anti-capitalism (I literally watch study vlogs from med students to unwind lol), or that "everybody should use their account in this specific way because it's the only one that is valid" (it's not and i don't care what other ppl do) but u are obviously dissatisfied with ur feed for valid reasons and while some ppl may not share your opinion it doesn't mean that you shouldn't take steps to make ur user experience less jarring.

it's again just an *opinion*, not a to-do list or smt that i'd ever want 2 present as a "fact", at the end of the day everybody curates their online spaces the way they want to and if you find your current configuration to be distasteful, that's understandable. and everybody is entitled to believe that celebrities/influencers/glorified sellers of products and lifestyles and disorders talking or not talking about certain things can be harmful or beneficial, as there are arguments and examples for and against it and i am personally not interested in participating the debate even tho i wrote a long ass text about it akjdlkfjgd I'm sorry about this u might be regretting ever asking me this question. hope i made sense!