#bc at face value it seems like you all are actually making some valid critiques then i look at some of the other stuff y'all have done

[prompts-adrien-sugar]

OK I'm gonna talk about a subject that's kinda touchy but really sincerely needs to be said.

Some people in this fandom i genuinely admire and like, but here's the thing. Some of y'all in this fandom can be a bit insensitive to allot of issues (racism, sexism, abuse, etc) and some still try real hard to act like you don't and it's honestly really f*cking trifling/concerning, cause like y'all act like y'all don't do that, and it really aggravates me.

First onto the problem with racism this fandom has. Y'all have no qualms going on and on about the evident whitewashing the show does to it's characters of colour at times like what they did to rena's model, etc(trust me i feel the same way at times but saying that mari is white bc she doesn't wear chinese garb etc is really concerning and feels really weird when white fans try to say this bc not allot of ppl who come from different cultures outward go and dress in their ethnic garb at home in all places (and honestly, whenever iusuallysee art of this it's fine but at times it comesoff a bit fetishizy(especially whenever someonetries to draw mari in diferent clothes and all they do is a "certain" style. and it's concerning that y'all have the opposite argument about sabine (even though i also i have qualms about that too.) but then getting angry when poc try to tell y'all to stop drawing characters a certain way (whitewashing (how funny how y'all go on about this and then do it in art or other media by lightening skin colour or changing features) or darkening the skin on a villain alligned character instead of trying to learn from those criticisms is in and of itself, a whole hypocritical mess bc y'all try to make some valid crits of the show but it all goes down the drain when y'all turn around and do this witchhunting/whitewashing bs. Then there's the fact that y'all salters almost always make alya the villain and chloe a support in a huge amount of saltfics without even seeing what kinds of connotations could arise from that. Like do you not see the problem in twisting the main character's best friend who actually has a personality of her own into the villain when she's black and making the lighter skinned bully the hero. At all.

Next onto the sexism (funny thing is its funny how both sides play into this). First we have how the fandom treats Marinette and Adrien. When mishaps happen to Mari, the salty part of the fandom tends to jump up and say that either her classmates are always laughing at her and more complaints that don't make any sense because if y'all have actually watched some parts of the show even, any scene when marinette has a mishap happen to her in front of classmates you'd see they're not laughing at her, but with her. (and you'd think that the nyc special would show y'all that the wouldn't laugh at her accidents or problems if she's in genuine distress.) Then we have the minor villains Felix and Lila with how the fandom still holds onto this merit that canon felix is a good person underneath a cold persona (now this could've been truefor pv!felix or fanon felix and i don't hate him, it actually the opposite, i kinda want to see what other moties the character has in store for us.) what i don't like is how some parts of the fandom put him on a better merit than lila when we don't even know his full character just as yet while we've already gotten to know how shady of a person lila is.

now finally onto the abuse aspect. i saved this one for last bc this is a touchy subject for me at times, in any aspects i can name bc here's the thing, this fandom loves to either: make claims that a certain character (adrien) is not facing any sort of abuse bc he's a guy or that he shouldn't be taking it or he should stand up for it (or worse saying he deserves it and saying that gabriel/lila should continue with it?! looking at 4 or more certain salters who have been getting on my last f-ing nerve with that) and i'm just like please stop and think about it for a second. And i don't want to hear the "it's a tv show" angle which i've heard way too many damn times bc If you were in a situation like that and it starts to escalate, how would you feel if someone online was making fun of your plight online over an over like a damn broken record player hmm? Cause i relate to adrien on a few aspects of his life and seeing y'all repeat the same cold takes about how he could just leave, or how chat blanc can't happen bc gabriel isn't like that is frankly, all too worrying bc i have been in that place and so have many others and seeing y'all say that gabe/lila/nathalie are all morally better bc of certain struggles they face is another hypocritical thing that some of y'all salters need to address bc y'all would rather say these people behave better than an abused kid.

[thosemintcookies]

fuckin

just mad in general as a u of t student about jordan peterson. (i don’t think he knows what postmodernism is because he uses it to describe anything he doesn’t like.)

i’m all for free speech and all, but also i’m into the idea of respecting other people’s views? isn’t that like “the marketplace of ideas” or some shit? i’m allowed to pick what i vibe with based on my experiences and the info i’ve been presented? and i’m not into dismissing it all with buzzwords that end in -ism? i’m kinda fascinated by him and his platform? he’s like, very christian, but atheists love him? he denounces white privilege? he doesn’t think sociology can explain society? having a nuanced, non-colonial, non-western view of society seems to not even occur to him? isn’t that like cultural supremacy? 

also i’m not gonna pretend to know him or what his views on everything is. i’m sure i’m gonna find some shit in common but he makes me kinda nauseated? like what he stands for is so gross? note: i’m biased because i’m studying criminology and anthropology (social sciences) which he seems to hate. apparently he doesn’t trust the law either bc it’s been infected with postmodernism? i mean yes? in order to have a just society it would be unfair to assume everyone has the same experiences in life? and therefore it has to account for things like nonbinary genders and marital rape (both things peterson seems to think don’t exist) because these are lived experiences of actual people?

if people can explain to me what his values are and where he developed these values y’all would be really helpful? again i’m not gonna pretend to know his whole deal. but i’m just genuinely confused as to why he’s a thing right now?

(oh wait, it’s probably because you seem more credible with an intellectual on your side rather than like internet dudes who don’t even use pics of their real faces? but he’s studied psychology, not sociology, so i don’t think he can much critique sociology. like i can critique christianity because i’ve been christian my whole life. i can critique aspects of feminism and “sjw culture” because bitch, i’ve been there. just unless you critique internally i don’t think the critique is super valid? 

or does that make me a hypocrite because i don’t wanna look into this guy’s views? probably. opinions are full of contradictions and arrogance. i’m just mad)

fuck.