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trolagygirl2022 · 2 months ago
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How does HYBE+BSH feel about the video?
HYBE:
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HYBE thinks that they shot themselves in the foot and are making things worse. I'm seeing them acting worried in the office, the poor prs at HYBE 😭 anyways, they see this as very reckless, bold and immature. It's definitely going to cause issues for the girls, MHJ and HYBE (probably including HYBE artists as well). Like when they were saying the company needed to bring MHJ back by September 25th or something, they were like "who do these teens think they are 😂". They were definitely shocked, I see some of them being like "they're so disrespectful to their elders!". So this is gonna backfire on them. It might have angered higher ups. I don't see them immediately disbanding but little things here and there will be affecting them.
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BSH isn't very pleased with it. In fact I see him being a bit worried? He seems to feel quite upset over this. I don't think he's worried over what they said but how it will affect the company's and his reputation. He was seen as a cool father figure but this whole thing is exposing him. He too found it immature of them to do. "Childish thinking".
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seonghwasblr · 3 months ago
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SVT coming to Europe for the first time ever in 9 years (not counting Gastonbury, cause that was sold out a year before they were announced, so carats didn't get a chance to go) and it's not even going to be ot13 should be a crime.. AND IT'S BECAUSE OF A SCHEDULE?!
#maja talks#i'm so upset for real#like i'm happy for jun and all but really?#you announced lollapalooza long ago and now suddenly he's got something else?#i'm not even going but got fuck you hybe i hate you so so so much#i will never not be angry about hybe ruining my chances to see svt live#like fuck you so much#(but maja covid was the reason for the 2020 cancelations yeah but hybe is the reason they never got rescheduled!!!)#i saw one of my mutuals from like 2015 make a post a couple of years ago about how she got to see svt as 13 four times in one year#and here i am as a european being shit on for 9 years straight#i hate it here so much and i'm so upset and i probably shouldn't be this upset but i am#fuck hybe and fuck bang shihyuk and fuck everyone that made that fuckass company so powerful#i hate it so much#i knew they were never going to take coming to europe seriously after joining that fuckass company#and yet i can't help but be so damn disappointed#it's been 9 years...#i remember where i was when the 2020 europe dates were announced#i was sitting in a train and i was so happy i was shaking so hard#i got a ticket with a great seat for the Berlin concert and i was so happy#i've never been so excited and happy#and then covid happened and everything got cancelled and they never even addressed it#they only ever said “we were sad the tour ended earlier than expected” in their yt documentary and that was the only mention of it#then the japan dome tour had to be pushed forward (not even really cancelled if i remember correctly) and they made wholeass apology videos#saying how sad they were and blah blah blah still no mention of europe at all#then like the day after europe got cancelled they uploaded a video of hoshi dancing with fans at one of the us stops#and it really just felt like they stepped on my heart and threw it in a trashcan lol#then they joined hybe and hybe got obsessed with dynamic pricing and ruined everything#ruined all chance of us seeing them as ot13#(maybe they'll finally acknowledge us for real when they get back from enlistment in maybe 6 years but who knows)#i for real shouldn't be this affected
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kanmom51 · 7 months ago
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https://twitter.com/parkjmwins/status/1782358915939774874
Idk whether you will even answer this ask or will block me but this is exactly why JK had similar concept pics like Jimin. Jikookers made it to be romantic while Fandom made it to a joke 'JK always copy Jimin' (ofcourse). I've seen you making multiple posts about Jikook concept pics being match is a proof of them being a couple when in reality Hybe don't even take permission of original artist before using their ideas for another. One hybe label just got into trouble for copying newjeans and according to CEO min heejin it was BANG SHIHYUK who wanted to copy newjeans to create a second version of them through illit. And guess what he made sure illit gets 10x more success than newjeans, a 2 day song was already charting in different charts including hot 100. The same bang shihyuk who ignored every bit of Jimin's success but shamelessly copied his ideas and visions of concept pics for another favorite member. He shamelessly asks staffs to copy original ideas of artists who created them and use them for a cheap version of the said artist, Newjeans and Jimin are just examples.
Was it JK's fault ? Not necessarily but unlike rookie Illit he had power and capability to make his own decisions and use his own visions instead of doing what he was asked to do by the staff (his words) but he didn't and sat comfortably while using another person's hardwork. If you still think those similarities were because they were couple then idk what to say because in that logic Newjeans girls and Illit girls are dating.
Talk about TikTok generation ask.
Linking me to a tweet that has zero actual information and/or proper discussion, just stating a fact that isn't necessarily even a fact. Ignoring the full picture (like y'all do when it comes to Jikook as well, btw).
And I also find it so so funny how you are basically hanging your all on something that a very problematic figure within the Kpop industry is claiming, all to try and deflect from despicable behaviour she's being accused of, including using and revealing private info of Hybe idols obtained in illegal and despicable manors, perhaps including having to do with certain private info leaking of certain BTS members (including the one person that you so vehemently claim to love and stand in defense of).
You think that by sending me this link you are proving something?
You say that you read through my posts. Well, obviously you've missed those many posts I've written explaining how JM and JK being a couple can be deducted not from one action or one behaviour alone, but the combination of many many actions or behaviours. A puzzle built of not 10 or 50 or 100 pieces, but one built of so many many more.
I find it funny how with everything that has been going on with JM and JK you guys are still at this.
We're back to JK copying JM.
Like seriously.
Like even if the whole NJ Illit thing was true there was some kind of a comparison to be made with these two men.
Like JK, who's album concept is 180 degrees different than JM's doesn't have stylists at his beck and call to create a concept that isn't a full on copy of JM's. Right down to the studs and colours and minutiae details of some of the outfits.
Like if he did copy JM, that same scorned poor JM (that's how you guys love to portray him, as a damsel in distress awaiting you to swoop in and save him) CHOSE to fly to NY to be with JK and spend Silver day there with him, travel with him multiple times and spend his entire 18 months in the army with that awful copy cat JK.
Your ask tells me that you have zero understanding in human interactions and relationships. JM saying time and time again, JOKING time and time again, about JK copying him, it's a tease but also something that he LOVES. How he inspires JK, how JK perceives him as his catalyst.
But this here, the photo concepts and the whole of JK's wardrobe while promoting, claiming it's all about copying JM is just bull crap. This was planned. And it was planned by the two of them. It's not a coincidence that JM happens to wear the bottom part of a two piece outfit months before JK wears the top part of the same exact outfit.
And if we are talking about copying, is it the concept he's copying or is he so far gone that he's literally copying down to the smallest of details?
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Like seriously. You think that's about copying JM?
Or because it worked for JM so he thinks it will work for him? Literally same hairstyle rocking as JM had in Face? Cause why not use a concept that works? Seriously? JK's all "I should do this cause it worked for JM so it will work for me"?
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Was that what he was thinking when he rocked a highlight of JM's hair colour over the years? That the colour works for JM so I should have a strand of that colour in my hair as well, copying his success? Is that the theory you're working with?
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Or when JK wore the same jacket as JM on Valentines day, you know, in a clip that JM himself records and uploads, that JK also copying JM?
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Babe, this isn't just about the concept pics either. And it's not just about Face and Seven or Golden. Wearing the actual same black leather or leather-like pants just because he couldn't find any other pants? That level of copying? Or perhaps it wasn't about copying and more about mirroring.
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About "You are me I am you", which they have been screaming at the top of their lungs for years now!!!
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It amazes me how you have zero issue in taking an over decade long complex super close relationship (no matter how you perceive it they are super close) and simplifying it into "JK copied JM's concept because JM's concept worked for him", or to even compare whatever went on with JK and JM and those similarities to a claim made (by a disgruntled and caught red handed employee of Hybe) about one new GG copying concepts and whatever from a GG that's been around for 2 years now. No connection between them. No long term relationships between the groups. One group supposedly copying from another. Yeah, definitely the comparison needed to be made between that and Jikook's behaviours or decision making.
How infantile of you.
Oh and that paragraph of yours at the end. Laughable really.
Like I already said, go compare 2 GGs in two different companies to 2 men that have been close for over 10 years now. And let's also disregard the long history of those two doing the similar and same outfit (during official shoots, performances etc, or during their free time) thing and look at this one single concept.
Probably styled (funny how the styling seems to be similar for years now on many occasions, and just with the two of them)
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Not styled.
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These are just examples of MANY MORE instances.
Oh, and I suggest you go read this post too. Not mine, but recently written and oh so relevant to the conversation.
I can't help but wonder how different your pov would have been if one of those two young men was a female. Just thought I would throw that in here too.
But I gotta give you an A for persistence. You guys, you never give up, do you? No matter what JK and JM will throw at you, you will find a way to twist it around to fit your narratives. I guess you also think that JM was forced into enlistment with JK, ah? And their trips together and the content that will drop, also forced on him? I guess him saying otherwise isn't enough to convince you guys either, right? I love the way how you guys are so intrenched in your belief of victimhood that you don't even listen to what JM himself tells you. You love him so much that basically call him a liar. Good for yous I guess.
So, to clarify my answer to you, just in case it wasn't as clear as day already...
You do you, cause nothing I tell you, or show you, or you know what? Nothing that even JM himself will tell you or show you will satisfy you. Because you are living in a self built fantasy of what and who JM is and what and who those that surround him are, all to fit that narrative of yours in which he needs you guys as his saviours and knights in shining armour to swoop in and save him from the big bad JK.
One more thing.
JM's Face was a masterpiece.
We all agree on that. JK included.
He adores JM, he's his no. 1 fan and he's been showing us this throughout 2023.
JK is not a person that would callously copy a concept used by a bandmate just because it succeeded for his bandmate and might work for him too.
Let alone from JM.
His person.
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Not even if, as you put it, he was told to do so by the powers at be (which yeah, he'd tell to go shove it up their asses if they ever did 'tell' him to do that btw, and they wouldn't do it anyway seeing that they know that would be his exact reaction).
So, no.
That is my answer to you.
Just a whole big fat NOPE.
No to copying. And surprisingly no to blocking you.
Yet.
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thehaniverse · 6 months ago
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HYBE vs Min Hee Jin - The Full Timeline
[Last updates: June 1st 2024]
Hi guys, Han here, and LORD, this has been one of the hardest things I've ever had to do, but I hope this is helpful to all those who are trying to follow this mess in its entirety.
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Important notes:
I've included the pre-audit timeline to help you understand the history and context of everything that's happened
I will be updating periodically with new information
I will try to keep entries to the point, and highlight the main points given by each side without adding too much of my own opinion - so make your own conclusions!
Credits to TMIKpop on Twitter for most of the translated news articles as I'm far too lazy, busy (and dyslexic) to read all those Korean articles myself.
I tried to include sources as much as possible in the more recent news, but honestly, I'm going to be a little lazy with this as I don't have enough free time to go back and find sources for things that happened way in the past or are already well-known up to this point. Feel free to send me sources in my ask box though!
Green text indicates the latest updates for those following!
Also for reference, here are the key involved characters (and name abbreviations that will be used throughout this post.)
Bang PD (Bang Shihyuk, HYBE Chairman & BigHit CEO)
PJW (Park Jiwon, HYBE CEO, ex-CEO of NEXON Games)
MHJ (Min Hee Jin, ADOR CEO, ex-SM employee)
VP L (Lee Sangwoo, VP of ADOR, ex-financial division at HYBE)
VP S (Shin ??, VP of ADOR)
NJs (NewJeans), LS (Le Sserafim), IL (ILLIT), GFRIEND & BTS
BHM (BigHit Music), SouMu (Source Music), BELIFT & ADOR
Items with * are accusations by either ADOR or HYBE, but that haven't been 100% verified as true or false. Things that have been verified won't have any *.
Similarly, (RUMORS) that seem to have some basis in reality based on existing evidence but have not been explicitly stated by either side are also included. Also disclaimer: I am not pro-HYBE nor pro-MHJ, I have my personal opinion but I've tried to keep this as impartial and unbiased as possible. I've just presented the news that has been released, if it tills one way, that's just how it is.
Without further ado(r LOL), let's begin!
2019~2021
MHJ joins BigHit Ent as Chief Branding Officer for all labels - this is in preparation for Bighit Ent becoming HYBE.
*Between then and 2021, MHJ suggests making a girl group to Bang PD, and they agree to make the group under SouMu rather than BHM. However, MHJ is never officially employed at SouMu.
*Bang PD promises that MHJ's group will be HYBE's first girl group.
All NJs members join SouMu (Minji joined in 2017 / Hani 2019 / Haerin & Danielle 2020 / Hyein 2021)
*NJs' debut is pushed back initially because of COVID, then again due to contract issues, resulting in LS being ready to debut first and PJW telling MHJ that NJs will no longer be the first gg from HYBE. MHJ claims the reason for NJs' debut delay is because they didn't like her creative vision though.
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2021
Q1 (Exact Timing Unknown)
Bang PD starts developing LS with SouMu as he wants to create a group featuring known members, Chaewon and Sakura from Iz*one.
*NJs' debut is pushed back initially because of COVID, then again due to contract issues, resulting in LS being ready to debut first
PJW tells MHJ that NJs will no longer be the first gg from HYBE.
*MHJ is upset that another gg is being developed under Source and claims that it's because Bang PD didn't like the direction she was taking NJs and abandoned her to work on LS instead.
MHJ later agrees to the new debut schedule, with LS debuting just 2 months before NJs, and decides that is enough time for her to promote NJs.
Feb/Mar
HYBE is officially established as a company with Bang PD as CEO.
May
PJW is announced as the new CEO of HYBE.
Bang PD continues as CEO of only BGM but only the chairman of HYBE. This means he has no say in the daily operations of HYBE, but can make big decisions that go to the Board of Directors (BOD). Note: Each label under HYBE has its own individual CEO.
GFRIEND is officially disbanded without any notice from SouMu.
*MHJ is accused (by HYBE staff) of taking almost all of the SouMu staff to ADOR resulting in SouMu not having enough staff to manage GFRIEND and LS. SouMu also had a lot of debt from the training of NJs that they would no longer see a return on as the profits would go to ADOR so they needed to take dramatic measures. (RUMOR) SouMu had already sunk a lot of money into LS (and NJs) and expected LS to be more popular as they were debuting under HYBE, so they decided to terminate GFRIEND at the end of their contracts without warning.
November
ADOR is officially established so that MHJ can have full control over her group's image and development, rather than answering to SouMu CEO and Bang PD.
HYBE gives 16.1B won investment for the establishment of ADOR
Bang PD gives MHJ 2B won to buy 2.8B won worth of ADOR stocks (amounting to 20%, 2% of which she later shared out to her two VPS.) He also gave her 2.9B of HYBE stocks as part of her official recruitment package as CEO of ADOR at only 23% of the actual share value (aka she got a 77% discount). However, MHJ sold 1,000 shares in mid-Nov and another 1000 shares on 8 Dec 2022, earning 760M, and walked away with an additional 120M in cash just 15 days after her investment. // Source: Silsa Journal
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2022
May
LS debuts from SouMu
*HYBE claims they shortened their promotional period in order to give MHJ enough time to promote NJs ahead of their debut, but MHJ shows Kakao messages of PJW specifying that NJs should not be promoted ahead of LS' debut so they can benefit from the speculation of them being MHJ's group.
LS' debut is overshadowed by the Garam scandal.
(RUMOR) While Garam was later found to be innocent and misrepresented in the media (ie she was protecting a friend from a bully, not actively bullying someone), many believe MHJ was the one who leaked the information to the press to jeopardize LS' debut. This comes from the statements from HYBE that they have evidence of her collecting and leaking artists' private information.
July
NJs debuts with ZERO pre-debut promotion, instead dropping an incredible amount of content for the debut promotions. Note: While MHJ claims HYBE tried to stop her promoting at all before their debut, she has not provided any evidence. It is the responsibility of each individual label to plan and execute their artist's promotions.
End of Year
Thanks to NJs' successful debut, ADOR has paid off a majority of their debt to HYBE, and now only owes 4B won.
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2023
Dec // Source: Donga Ilbo
Bang PD lends MHJ money to buy cheap stock options (intentionally discounted by HYBE for her to buy) and MHJ uses the loan to buy a 20% stake in ADOR. This means she gets paid her shares on top of her 1M USD annual salary as CEO. Note: I couldn't confirm this, but it's believed she is the only CEO of any HYBE label that has stocks in her company. BHM is private so there are no stocks and it is owned completely by Bang PD, while the other labels' stocks are owned 100% by HYBE.
MHJ buys the shares on the following conditions: + If she decides to quit, HYBE is obliged to buy the stocks back and pay MHJ 13 times [ADOR's profit from the last 2 years x her % of shares] + She can quit from Nov 2024 and has a non-compete clause for 2 years where she must maintain a 4.5% stake in ADOR. Note: This means as a stakeholder she can not establish her own company or work for a company that will directly compete with ADOR for those 2 years, as she can not do work that can potentially devalue her shares. This is standard in many industries.
MHJ later shares 2% of her shares to executives of ADOR: VP S and VP L. Note: It is unclear if she sold them or gifted them.
Q4 (Exact Timing Unknown)
VP L leaves their position in HYBE's financial team and starts to work at ADOR under MHJ.
*HYBE accuses VP L of downloading a bunch of HYBE's private financial data that he should no longer have access to, and giving it to MHJ to later use to try and blackmail HYBE into selling their ADOR stocks with the investors she is colluding with. This would mean the majority of ADOR stocks would be controlled by people who support MHJ's decisions.
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2024
Feb // Source: Donga Ilbo
MHJ tries to negotiate the terms of her contract with HYBE. She requests the following: + The 13x valuation of her shares be increased to 30x. Taking their value from approximately 100B won to 270B won. (This would be 5.5x the amount of profit she actually made with ADOR in 2023.) + The complete removal of the non-compete clause, allowing her to cash out all of her stocks and start/work for a competitor company immediately after leaving the company.
Additionally, she asks for the ability to make decisions regarding outside investors by herself as the CEO without HYBE's input.
HYBE rejects all of her requests because they would be complete financial losses and risks to HYBE. Negotiations stop as neither side will budge.
It is also around this time that HYBE gets the tips that MHJ is planning a management takeover with outside investors.
Mar
HYBE received a tip that MHJ is planning to try and make ADOR independent by gathering investors who support MHJ to buy up the majority of ADOR shares.
[23rd~29th] MHJ and VP L share messages about selling ADOR after 'emptying it like a shell', how to make ADOR independent, and how they should blackmail HYBE and ruin HYBE's reputation. *HYBE believes the 'empty shell' comment means terminating NJs' contracts with the majority shareholder power from the investors MHJ was meeting. Note: MHJ has confirmed the existence of these messages but insists they were just jokes between disgruntled employees. HYBE retorts that these plans are too specific and detailed, and they found additional evidence to prove they were more than just empty words.
[25th] ILLIT debuts with 'Magnetic'
April
[3rd] MHJ submits an internal complaint to HYBE and BELIFT that IL's concept is copyright infringement of NJs and that HYBE has the obligation to protect them. She requests they respond by April 23rd or 24th (not clear.)
MHJ also complains to the parents of NJs that HYBE is trying to sideline NJs with IL.
[22nd] HYBE and BELIFT submit a 6-page response to MHJ. Note: She later claims that she didn't receive any response, but HYBE provides proof that she received it, so she changed that they replied last minute so she couldn't prepare for the audit, but the response doesn't mention the audit because they are separate issues. However, MHJ believes the audit is all because of the IL situation.
HYBE carries out and publically announces the ADOR audit. This results in an 8% drop in HYBE stocks. (Whistleblower will be revealed later!) *They claim to find evidence of her plans, the illegally obtained company and artist information, and more.
[23rd] MHJ holds a 2.5 hour press conference in retaliation. *She doubles down that she believes this is all because of the complaint she filed and that HYBE (and particularly Bang PD) has hated her and NJs from the beginning. Conference Transcript Here:
[24th] This was also the deadline for which all company devices needed to be returned for the audit but MHJ refused to return her work laptop (and still hasn't as far as I know.) *MHJ claims the timing of the audit was intentional to jeopardize NJs' comeback, however, HYBE provided copied devices to all the employees. She has since not given any justification for not returning her laptop and NJs comeback is continuing as scheduled.
[26th] While HYBE initially stated they wouldn't respond on the day of the conference, they later released a full statement addressing the key points of MHJ's argument. HYBE's full response in English:
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NJs's fans (Bunnies) sent trucks to HYBE requesting that MHJ stop using NJs and their parents to protect herself and that NJs stay within HYBE.
NJ's parents refuse to accept calls from HYBE but express their support through newspaper interviews.
Both NJs and BTS RM announce their comebacks set for May 24th. (HYBE's stocks recover thanks to this.) MHJ paints this as HYBE trying to crush NJs with their biggest group because NJs surpassed BTS - HYBE retorts that BHM picked the date first and advised her to change the date, but she insisted on having NJs' comeback on the same day.
[30th] HYBE calls an extraordinary general meeting with the BODs, but the ADOR executives and MHJ do not attend, meaning they have to file a legal suit requiring the MHJ, VP S and VP L to attend the ADOR BODs extraordinary general meeting on May 31st instead.
Other things of note that happened between the 22nd to 30th:
News reports broke that a petition for re-investigation regarding a 2017 allegation against BTS for Sagaeji was passed to the KFTC & Ministry of Culture, Sports & Tourism. Days later the organizations responded by clearing the charges and asking that all musicians be as honest and forthcoming as BTS. It was later discovered at the hearing that MHJ was behind this situation, and ordered her VPs to create a buzz around the issue to distract attention from her. // Sources: Link / Yonhap News
Similarly, following the accusation from HYBE that MHJ was talking to her 'shaman friend', a rumor broke that BTS were members of a cult that the chairman of their university (Cyber Global University) is rumored to be part of. The Chairman denied being part of a cult, and HYBE/BHM released statements denying the allegations too.
(RUMOR) "K-ARMYs" sent trucks and funeral wreaths to HYBE dissing the company and pleading allegiance only to BTS until May 7th. The following day, these were replaced by trucks from "Bunnies" showing support for MHJ - contradicting the prior trucks sent criticising her. The suspicious timing, the unusually fast fundraising, the contradictory message, the hiring of bodyguards to protect the wreaths, and other strange coincidences cast doubt on if any of these trucks are actually from fans. Many believe MHJ is funding these herself to paint the image that fans are on her side, or at least hate HYBE, justifying her own discontent with HYBE.
May // Source: Biz Chosun
[7th] MHJ files an injunction to Seoul District Court to block HYBE from using their 80% share of ADOR to vote her out (fire her.)
[10th] ADOR BOD agreed to HYBE's request to hold the extraordinary general meeting to discuss the dismissal of MHj (and the two VPs.)
*The same day, prior to the BOD announcement, MHJ's side said a styling team leader was subject to improper coercion during the audit. // Source: Lee Daily HYBE later retaliated explaining how the audit was conducted and that when the staff wanted to stop, they respected her wishes. Furthermore, HYBE said they found evidence of embezzlement and improper payment receipts for ADOR staff. // Source: Newsen ADOR denied that the payment methods were normal and legal, but definitely they are not. // Source: Newsis However, the staff did come forward to say she felt pressured and blackmailed with the embezzlement claims if she didn't comply with the audit. // Source: Ilgan Sports
[12th] An email from "NJs Parents" to HYBE is released to a newspaper, the contents of the email describing how Bang PD did not greet the girls in the elevator, and how they are their parents were upset by it. HYBE retorted that this was not true, and that the email was fabricated by VP L and MHJ and they had proof of this. // Source: YTN A parent of NJs later gave an interview with Ilgan Sports revealing the email was in fact written by MHJ, based on conversations she had with the parents. She also claimed PJW had said the girls would take a break for 1.5 years in order to find a Grammy worthy producer for NJs and that the parents were worried about their careers. // Source: Ilgan Sports HYBE denies any such statement and that they plan to continue NJs schedules as planned. //Source: Seoul Newspaper
[13th] YTN reports HYBE has selected a new CEO for ADOR to replace MHJ once she's voted out, and that they will reveal all of the results of the audit at the court hearing.
Controversy about NJs new song 'Bubble Gum' being plagiarised from a 1982 song called 'Easier Said Than Done' by British Rock Band ShakaTak. // Source: Biz Chosun
[14th] HYBE filed a complaint with the FSS due to insider trading carried out thanks to a tip from MHJ's side about the upcoming public scandal. Note: It's complicated and is about additional people not mentioned until now, so I will link the thread explaining it. It is relevant however, as it backs HYBE's claim that MHJ had planned to ruin their company image as part of her management takeover plan even before the audit. LINK
[17th] The hearing for MHJ's injunction takes place. Each side has 30 minutes to present their arguments and evidence. The below tweets summarize the main points.
HYBE's Side:
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ADOR's Side:
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Although MHJ requested her Kakao messages not to be shared publically (despite her already showing some), a reporter did recreate the messages. (He copied them word for word but recreated the image so it doesn't break the rules.) The messages show her hatred for women in general, particularly a female employee who was reported assaulted by one of the VPs. Messages Translation: LINK Message Source: LINK LINK
[17th] NJs members and their parents all submitted petitions to oppose the dismissal of MHJ and request that MHJ and NJs continue to stay under HYBE - these petitions were submitted before the hearing where MHJ's disparaging comments against NJs were revealed. // Source: Hankook Ilbo
A petition signed by 10,000 NJs' fans, and various petitions from ADOR staff members was also submitted to the court in favor of MHJ.
Various staff from HYBE (Pdogg (BTS producer), CEO Han Seongsoo (Pledis founder and producer of Seventeen), CEO So Seongjin (Source Music), Son Seongduk (BigHit performance director), Kim Seonghyun (BTS and Le Sserafim’s creative director), and Slow Rabbit (TXT producer)) filed petitions in favor of HYBE showing strong loyalty from various labels and artists. //Source: News 1
[17th] HYBE's Q1 results were released and showcased how NJs/ADOR is not as valuable an asset as MHJ is painting them out to be. This goes against MHJ's argument that HYBE is trying to crush her because NJs are getting 'too big'. LINK
[17th] The whistleblower who tipped HYBE off to make them do the audit is revealed. Long story short it was one of the associates of the investors MHJ had been trying to get to buy shares of ADOR who reached out to HYBE. MHJ has claimed during her conference she never met any investors and that HYBE should prove who they are. Now that they've been named, she's still deflecting because it was VP L who met with the investors rather than MHJ herself. // Source: LINK / Biz Chosun
[17th - yeah, a lot happened this day] MHJ accuses HYBE of trying to make her commit 'Albun Pushing', as well as complaining about the distribution deal with UMG - HYBE retaliates denying the allegations and provides evidence of MHJ doing the exact thing she accused them of, and also explains how the UMG benefits all artists and has already benefit NJs. // Source: LINK Note: This is NOT Sajaegi, but it is still a tactic to inflate sales. The difference is Sajaegi is the company buying the albums themselves, whereas this album pushing is forcing distributors to preorder more stock and then hold events (like fansigns) to help them sell out after.
[22nd] BELIFT also filed an official defamation suit against MHJ. // Source: Hangkook Finance // Note: In Korea, you can sued for defamation even if what you said is proven true if it is deemed not beneficial to the general public and detrimental to the person/entity who was defamed. If found guilty, this would be grounds for MHJ's injunction to be canceled.
[24th] This day is the deadline by which both sides can submit additional evidence before the courts make their decision on whether to pass MHJ's injunction (stopping HYBE from voting her out) or not. // Source: YNA
[24th~19th] Various text messages, supposedly from HYBE's legal argument are leaked to the public. They contain damning messages that show that MHJ was planning (in detail) the takeover of ADOR/NJs prior to the debut of ILLIT. As the messages are 'leaked' it is hard to prove their validity, but MHJ later states (on the 30th] that the messages were taken out of context (not that they were lies/edited.) // Source: KBS
KakaoTalk Message Translations are available here: PannKpop
[25th] PJW met with 3/5 NJs' mothers and guaranteed that they would be able to carry out their Tokyo Dome performance plans regardless of MHJ's status after the injunction - despite MHJ refusing to share the files/information related to the concert plans. // Source: Ilgan Sports
[30th] The court rules in favor of Min Hee Jin. They admit that while she did plan a management takeover and take action that could be harmful/disadvantageous to HYBE, she did not do anything that would be detrimental to ADOR which is her prime responsibility, and that the loss of MHJ to ADOR could be harmful. // Source: Hankook Ilbo
This injunction temporarily stops HYBE from firing MHJ unless they can prove she is bad for ADOR or that she has committed some sort of criminal offense against HYBE. // Source: Kyunghyang Newspaper
HYBE says they will respect the court's decision and act accordingly (likely file an appeal.) MHJ announces she will do a press conference the following day. She also claims that the dismissal of her two VPs will be against the court's decision, but technically they aren't covered by the injunction. // Source: Seoul Newspaper
[31st] The ADOR extraordinary general meeting takes place.
HYBE fires the two VPs who worked under MHJ and replace them with with three Hybe officers. Kim Joo-young, Chief Human Resources Officer (CHRO), Lee Jae-sang, Chief Strategy Office (CSO), and Lee Kyung-joon, Chief Financial Officer (CFO) were appointed at the EGM. //Note: The CHRO is a woman, which is interesting due to MHJ's disparaging comments about working with women according to the messages allegedly leaked by HYBE. // Source: Yeonhap News
This new BoD line-up for ADOR means MHJ is outnumbered 3:1 in any decision and is seen as a way for HYBE to keep her in check.
Note: I haven't included notes from MHJ's conference yet as I haven't watched it for myself yet! I also don't know what parts will be relevant to the main timeline later, so I will update again a bit later.
This is all the information so far, I've skipped some of the common knowledge things like the details of the IL plagiarism or cult accusations because I think they just muddle the whole timeline and are very inconsequential.
I will continue to update this page as things continue to happen. And I want to show out TMIKPOP from Twitter one more time as I wouldn't have been able to put this together without their tweets.
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k-tarotz · 11 months ago
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How the industry view EN-jake. Other idols (female and male), hybe as company,the staffs and bang shihyuk.
I hope this isn't too much. *If you ever consider doing the reading, it can be short* Thankyou 💞💞💞
i will not include bang pd in this but i can do the rest <3
male idols: affectionate, unloyal, naive, dreamer, silly, aloof, head up in clouds, unfriendly, loner, helpful, ‘too much of a good guy’, sweet, kind, lovely/loving, understanding, ‘lets things slide too easily’, well disciplined, scary, carries himself well, aggressive
disc.: this seems to come from many different idols, from different groups and companies. it’s a mix really. some have a crush on him so they view him in a high regard (yes, males), some genuinely hate him bc their s/os might have a crush on jake or have cheated on them with jake (i don’t think jake would intentionally go for someone in a relationship, by the way), some homophobic idols might judge his affectionate side with his members and since jake is emotionally a sensitive person he could be cold and avoid contact with them. however he does seem to have good friends who care about him a lot and watch out for him 🫶🏻
female idols: hot, manly, dependable, heartbreaker, hard to maintain (he could have high standards), sweet, kind, friendly, easy to get along with, very well disciplined, well mannered, attractive, cute, loveable, emotional
disc.: female idols seem to mostly either have a crush on him, want to be friends with him or desire him in other ways~. of course there are people who don’t like him for personal reasons (their friend getting hurt bc of him, stereotyping him based on rumours ect) but he seems to have a lot of admirers, many people are in love with him~ seems like he has both boys and girls love struck~ we ofc don’t think he is a player, rather that he is hard to get and really good in keeping up romantic relationships so that could make people more curious about him~
hybe: lazy, whiner, complainer, kind, bright, friendly, hyper, good in maintaining an image, loveable, ‘the best’, unfocused, perverted, too hyperactive, beautiful, affectionate, talented, stylish, happy person in general
disc.: there are some personality and view clashes here and there but he seems to have mostly great people around him who view him in a nice and positive light. he might also have some one (or some people) who adore him romantically in the company~ ‘hybe’ refers to idols, choreographers, editors, managers, directors ect.
staff: kind, caring, energetic, cute, attentive, caring, strong personality, ambitious, easy to provoke, lazy, one of a kind, ‘kinder than most idols’, sweetheart, affectionate, off limits, flirty
disc.: again they might be people who have romantic feelings for him. we checked, he is single. he is just a heartthrob. though, neither of us thinks he uses his possibilities and good looks for bad things. 🫶🏻
– Candy
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tokkibbang00 · 2 years ago
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WHY CAN'T WE BE FRIENDS? - C. YEONJUN (TEASER)
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synopsis: Being caught in a series of scandals and controversies, Yeonjun's company has had enough of his attitude problems and finally decides to send him off to university. Despite his arguments towards management, he has no choice but to follow them or else he can kiss his modeling career goodbye. You're a fashion major attending university. You'd think you'd be delighted hearing the news about a famous model coming into your department, but as soon as you were seated beside him in one of your classes, you'd soon come to realize that you absolutely hated his guts
rating: (n)sfw
pairing: model!choi yeonjun x fashion major!afab reader
genre: college!au, enemies to lovers!au, kinda angsty, reader and yeonjun are idiots.
warnings: cursing, yeonjun's kind of an asshole at first, mentions of alcohol, suggestive, (will add more when the full story is posted)
a/n: i was originally planning on posting my han jisung fic first but i got so excited about this one that i knew that i just had to post this. i was also writing a part 2 of a certain fic, but that's a conversation for some other time 👀 I'm currently working on 3-5 fics but I'm also taking in requests!! Feel free to message me or Dm me~ Enjoy the teaser and watch out for the full fic in a week or two 💙
teaser posted: 05-18-23
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MODEL CHOI YEONJUN RUMORED TO BE DATING WORLD-STAR IDOL HUH YUNJIN... AND MODEL JEON SOMI?
CHOI YEONJUN SEEN BAR HOPPING THREE NIGHTS IN A ROW IN ITAEWON
CHOI YEONJUN'S EXPLOSIVE EPISODE ON PAPARAZZIS. READ HERE !!!
BAD HABITS AND BAD ATTITUDE? INSIDER WHO WORKED WITH CHOI YEONJUN SPILLS IT ALL!!
Seungjin's eyebrows meet at the middle as his forehead starts showing lines and wrinkles, obvious dissatisfaction etched on his face. His fingers were rubbing his temples out of frustration while he continued to read article after article about their oh-so-beloved model, Choi Yeonjun.
The CEO sat at the end of the table, his back leaning on the chair while he reads along with Seungjin on his iPad.
Every article has been stating one common issue— Yeonjun's superiority complex and attitude problems.
The company already knew about this... issue, before the articles came to surface and has warned the young man every time.
He never listened.
Now here they are, reaping the consequences of the man's actions. They did all that they can to scold him, reprimand him, and even cover for him. Nothing ever stopped Yeonjun.
At the other end of the table, Yeonjun had his legs up on top of the meeting table and his back resting on the chair. His fingers brush his slicked back hair, making strands fall down his face.
The only sound you'd hear around the room was his loud chewing from his gum and his pen tapping.
The CEO, Shihyuk, let out a sigh, placing his iPad down. His elbows were perched on top of the table as he rested his chin on his hands that was clasped together.
“Yeonjun, I'm guessing you know why we've called you and Seungjin here today... Right?”
The young man raised an eyebrow, a small smirk forming on his face. He puts his feet back down on the floor and copied Shihyuk's posture on the table.
“I don't know Sir Bang. You tell me.” Yeonjun teased, “I've been nothing but the perfect role model as far as I can see!” He said sarcastically.
Shihyuk wasn't phased by him at all. A stern look remained on his face as he continues the conversation.
“We have been thinking of ways to better your reputation.”
“Oh? Do enlighten me, please.” Yeonjun held himself back from rolling his eyes. He has heard things like these more than a hundred times already. “It's not like most of those articles are fake and heavily fabricated.”
He was confident that his company would cover for him or would keep shut.
On the contrary, Shihyuk and the PR team has seen the increase of negative articles towards the model. They knew that keeping quiet or finding a cover up will not work anymore.
Shihyuk cleared his throat, a small smile creeping on his face. It was his turn to be smug.
“We have decided to send you to University.”
Every ounce of confidence that was evident on Yeonjun's face immediately disappeared. His eyebrows immediately furrow while his jaw prominently clenching.
“What. The. Fuck.”
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TBC.
NOTE: Characters presented do not represent anyone mentioned in the story. This is a work of fiction and is not real.
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winxanity-ii · 8 months ago
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⌜No Hoods Attached | Chapter 14 Chapter 14 | caught in a lie⌟
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❘ prev. chapter ❘༻✦༺❘ next chapter ❘
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On another floor of the building, Yoongi found himself in a room that was starkly different from the earlier. Cold fingers probed his neck, assessing without warmth.
"Rest, hydration, and painkillers if necessary," the physician instructed, his voice echoing clinical detachment before he exited.
Left alone with his thoughts, Yoongi laid back on a makeshift bed, his eyes closed not in rest but in a bid to escape the day's chaos.
The door opened, and Jungkook entered, his concern palpable. "Hyung, are you okay?" he inquired, approaching Yoongi with evident worry.
Yoongi offered a weary smile, "I'm fine, Kookie. The doctor said I just need some rest," attempting to assuage the younger's concern.
The room filled with members, each finding a spot in the cramped space. Jin, with a mix of worry and frustration, lightly scolded, "Yah! Yoongi, how could you be so careless? You could've been seriously hurt."
Hoseok chimed in, "I heard she just attacked you out of nowhere," his eyes wide with disbelief.
Yoongi winced, guilt pinching him for letting them believe the fan was entirely at fault—he did start it, if they were being honest.
"Are you really okay, Yoongs?" Jin prodded again, his frown deepening.
"Yeah, Hyung. Just a headache," Yoongi murmured, running his fingers through his hair, avoiding their gazes.
Jimin looked around the room with a bored look on his face. He took a second to stare at every one of his bandmates, taking in the new colors they had dyed onto their head for the fan meeting. Just as he moved on from Yoongi's blond hair, his eyes widened once they landed on something he never noticed before. He bit down on his bottom lip as he tried to stop himself from laughing. "Well, Yoongi-Hyung, looks like you were wrong about one thing..." he began, his body shaking as he tried to stop himself from bursting out laughing. "...looks like you didn't grow bald from all the hair dyeing like you thought you would," Jimin finished, continuing his staring at the small bald spot on the side of his head, where the girl grabbed his hair with her fist. Since Jimin was the closest to Yoongi, he had a very clear view of the injury he acquired from the fan. The room's attention shifted, following Jimin's line of vision, eyes widening at the sight before bursting out laughing, breaking the tension momentarily.
"Fuck you, Jimin," Yoongi retorted, the humor not quite reaching his eyes as he glared hard at the eldest of the Maknae line.
Fuck that. Yoongi doesn't feel bad for what he did; that bitch deserves every single thing coming her way.
As laughter died down, Yoongi queried, shifting the cold towel around his neck, "Do we even know who she was?"
"Just wait, PD Nim will have answers," Jungkook replied, trying to offer some reassurance.
True to his word, Bang Si-hyuk burst in moments later, his face etched with concern. "Yoongi! Are you okay? Tell me if you feel off," he said, examining Yoongi closely.
After Yoongi's insistence on his well-being, Shihyuk shifted the atmosphere, probing for the band's version of the events. Yoongi, steadfast, echoed the same narrative he had woven for his members, a facade of innocence he hoped would hold.
"Really, it's not as serious as it sounds," Yoongi began, a hint of casual dismissal in his tone. "This fan, she just got a bit... overexcited. I was surprised, that's all. But I'm okay now, nothing to worry about."
His narrative was practiced, delivered with a nonchalance intended to persuade, even as Shihyuk's demeanor changed, from concern to a silent, evaluative stance, arms crossed, eyes scrutinizing.
Yoongi grewunsettled by the gaze, questioned internally. The fuck he's looking at me like that for?
Eventually, Shihyuk broke the silence, his disappointment palpable. "Yoongi, I expected honesty from you," he sighed, shaking his head. "Especially seeing as everything was captured on video."
The word 'video' struck Yoongi like a bolt, jolting him upright, his facade momentarily crumbling under the weight of impending exposure. "Video? What video?" he stammered, his voice a mix of surprise and a hint of fear.
Without a word, Shihyuk reached into his jacket, retrieving his phone with a deliberate slowness, the gravity of the moment hanging heavy in the air. He pressed play, and the room hushed, every eye turning to the screen, every breath held as the truth unspooled in moving pictures, stripping away the layers of Yoongi's constructed reality.
the video showed the short, brown girl straddling Yoongi's lap, her hands gripping his neck with a ferocity that belied her size. Big, burly guards scrambled towards them, their hands grappling to peel her off, but her determination was palpable, her grip unyielding. "You pale ass, motherfucker—!"
The room was enveloped in a stunned silence as the video paused on this chaotic scene, Seora's fierce expression and Yoongi's contorted face frozen in time.
Cutting through the quiet, Yoongi's voice emerged, weak and strained, "I... I can explain."
Shihyuk raised a hand, signaling for silence. "No need," he said firmly, his eyes not leaving Yoongi's. "Because the footage is grainy, our PR team are already on it. They're working to remove any copies online and are managing any fallout. For now, Yoongi, you need to stay out of the public eye. Let us handle this."
Shihyuk's eyes softened, a glimmer of understanding piercing through the disappointment. "While I'm not pleased with how you handled the situation, Yoongi, I also recognize that the confrontation was mutual," he admitted, his voice tempered with a hint of empathy. "I won't hold this over you. We all make mistakes."
He stood up, signaling the meeting's end. "The rest of you can take the week off," he announced to the other members, who exchanged looks of relief mixed with concern. "I'll be in touch with you soon, Yoongi," Shihyuk added, offering a nod of reassurance before making his way to the door.
With a final look back, he exited, leaving the room in a heavy silence, punctuated only by the members' quiet breaths and unspoken thoughts.
Yoongi, feeling the weight of Jin's gaze, braced himself for the inevitable lecture.
Jin, with a furrowed brow, began his quiet but intense admonishment.
"Yoongi, do you understand the gravity of what you've done?" Jin's voice was stern, his disappointment palpable. "This isn't just about you; it affects all of us, our fans, our careers..."
Before Jin could further elaborate, Yoongi, sensing an opportunity to divert the attention, cut in. "But what about Tae?" he asked, his voice laced with a hint of defensiveness. "He ran off when things were dangerous and even ended up getting himself kidnapped."
Jin paused, the validity of Yoongi's point halting his reprimand mid-sentence. The room's focus shifted as Taehyung, caught off guard, scrambled to defend himself.
"Hey, hey, hey," Taehyung protested, his voice rising in his defense. "I'm not the one who lied about fighting a fan, ending up on Worldstar of all places."
"Well, at least I didn't leave my group hanging to play hero and end up in more trouble!"
"Playing hero is better than playing victim, Hyung. At least I was trying to do something positive!"
Yoongi, clearly irked by Taehyung's remark, simply sucked his teeth and rolled his eyes, choosing not to escalate the banter further.
In the midst of the brewing tension, Namjoon raised his voice to regain control of the room's focus. "Guys, listen up. I just got an update from Bang PD," he stated, instantly capturing the group's attention. "There's been a development involving Y/N and Taehyung. They're both going to be part of the OST for an upcoming drama."
Taehyung, initially taken aback by the mention of his involvement. "Wait, I'm doing what?" he asked, a mix of surprise and curiosity in his voice.
Jimin, intrigued, jumped in with a question, "Who's Y/N? Some new artist we haven't met yet?"
Namjoon sighed, preparing to unveil the full story. "No, Y/N isn't a new artist or celebrity. She's the girl who came for the jacket," he revealed, watching the room erupt into a flurry of shocked and confused reactions.
"Wait, what? The jacket girl?" Jungkook exclaimed, his eyes wide. "How does that even make sense?" Hoseok added, trying to connect the dots.
With everyone talking at once, Namjoon raised his hands, signaling for calm. "It's a long story, but essentially, Y/N and Taehyung will collaborate on the OST as part of resolving the whole incident. It's all been agreed upon at the higher levels."
The members processed the news, their expressions twisting as the earlier tension was momentarily forgotten in light of this new development.
Namjoon, sensing their unsettled feelings, added, "I know it's unexpected, but let's make the best of this situation. It's an opportunity for us and for Taehyung. We'll support him and Y/N through this project."
Gradually, the members nodded, the initial shock giving way to a collective acceptance. Despite the odd circumstances, they recognized the importance of unity and support, especially in the face of unexpected turns.
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***sorry, just wanted to write yoongi with a bald spot 🥴😂😂
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ogcassiopeia · 1 year ago
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Sure, b/t/s did pave the way...but only in one respect - - - western expansion.
That is their contribution in the "paving the way" discourse.
Otherwise, I wouldn't classify them as paving the way - they didn't build the original roads to international expansion, they didn't get the first ticks on the Oricon charts, or hold Chinese concerts. They weren't the first kpop group to win international music awards or visit European and S. American countries.
Therefore, you cannot say they were pioneers in that realm or that they oaved the way. Paving the way means you were the first...they were not. I am in no way trying to demean their successes, because they are immense, but saying they were the first is a falsehood. The fact that the group themselves also seem to believe this is insulting to the legendary kpop acts that came before them who ACTUALLY laid the foundation groups in the 3rd, 4th, and 5th gen stand on today.
BoA, TVXQ, BigBang, Super Junior, Shinhwa, HOT, Sechkies, SES, Lee Hyori, Girls Generation, Kara, Wonder Girls - - - kpop would not be what it is today without their influence and foundation. They may not have had top success in the US - but they still BUILT THE PATHWAY there. Before b/t/s was even in existence, BoA was hitting number one singles in Japan, TVXQ were holding massive concerts all over Asia and Japan, BigBang were attending award shows in Europe, etc. TVXQ was the main influence on Bang ShiHyuk to even try to put b/t/s together in the first place.
There, I'm done.
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dojae-huh · 11 months ago
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I doubt it is meaningful to compare Hybe with The big 3, talk about them as the same thing.
SM has smaller sub-labels, but they are not counted when it comes to SM's artists and the overall success. All SM's artists were produced on the company's money and with the help of its staff. On the other hand. Belift (Enhypen) was given money from CJ ENM. Le Sserafim is managed by Source Music, who produced GFriend. Seventeen was just bought ready, with pre-existing success.
When it comes to what company's shares to buy Hybe/SM/YG/JYP makes sense, but not when it is about "homegrown talent". Hybe is not an idol agency. It is a group of idol agencies. It is still technically Big Hit+money invested in other companies. Invested smartly, but the original company still has only two groups to its name: BTS and TXT.
If we to believe the promises of independent management Hybe and Source music or Hybe and Pledis are in the same type of relations as Kakao and SM. Hybe&Kakao are the owners, but the idol agencies operate on their own. Kakao, as a distributor and the owner of Melon, helps SM, in a similar way Hybe helps the newly established sub-labels with BTS name. However, the brains behind NewJeans are not the brains behind TXT.
YG is struggling heavily, but the man who created BigBang and 2NE1 is the same one who is working with Babymonster.
Comparing idol-company founders I can get behind. Bang Shihyuk is a winner as a businessman among the four in discussion. Comparing "legacy" - only the original big 3. Or them and BigHit. Then BH gets the award for breaking into the US market, but not the overall number of stand out artists or artists domaniting the current gen.
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btstwtarchive · 2 years ago
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130602 [Text] #방탄소년단 데뷔 쇼케이스엔 팬프레스 존과 함께 '우정존'이 있습니다! 친구와 손에 손잡고 ^0^* 우정존에서 함께 응원해요! ☞ http://cafe.daum.net/BANGTAN [Trans] #BTS's debut showcase has "Friendship Zone" along with the fan press zone! Let's hold hands with friends and cheer together in the friendship zone! ☞ Translated with papago
130602 [Text] 실제 방탄소년단을 초록검색창에 검색하면 나온다는 [방탄소년단언제데뷔해 짜증나]!! 절대 오래 기다린 시간이 후회하지 않을 방탄소년단의 데뷔 쇼케이스 함께해요!! #방탄소년단 [Trans] Actually, if you write Bulletproof Boy Scouts in the green search box "when are the Bulletproof Boy Scouts going to debut" appears!! Let's go together to the Bangtan showcase and have a time you'll never forget after waiting a long time for their debut! #BulletproofBoyScouts Translated by BTS_Trans on Twitter.
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ARMY NOTES - Other suggested terms that can be seen in the picture include: "BTS member" "BTS School of Tears" "Jeon Jungkook" "BTS Kim Namjoon" "BTS Paldogangsan" "Jung Hoseok" "Rap Monster" "Big Hit Entertainment" "BTS Taehyung" "BTS Jin" "BTS Twitter" "BTS Hook Song" "Bang Shihyuk" "BTS Debut" "BTS Shin Dong Hyuk" "BTS Jung Hoseok" -The version of Paldogangsan (Satoori Rap) being searched for here is the pre-debut version from 2011 which featured only the rappers. It was later redone/remastered with all seven members of BTS and put onto O!RUL82!? -Hook Song (Hook Gayo) was a pre-debut track made when BTS was still being referred to as BPB and well before the final line-up of members was deteremined. It featured Namjoon, and former member-potentials Shin Dong Hyuk (Supreme Boy) and Jung Hun Cheol (Iron).
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trolagygirl2022 · 6 months ago
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Bang Shi-Hyuk and Min Heejin synastry
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Moon square Moon: Min Heejin might see him as a bit dramatic? "Oh shut up you big baby 🙄" (that just immediately popped up in my head 😭). This ties with their issues at the moment. MHJ is focused on her craft and she's good at what she does, BSH on the other hand seems to be someone that just wants to make a quick buck. Also, she works in the shadows and tends to do 8th house things but he likes to make himself look good to the public. That's where his "wholesome" persona heavily stems from. Also he's quite prideful, which can piss MHJ off a lot (even though she's not that innocent herself).
MHJ's Venus conjunct his North Node: Them being business partners was meant to be. Her artistic directions were going to fill up his wallets! I see her thinking the way she goes about things is "unnecessary?" like she isn't "composed" according to him. He might not be willing to let her go, as he relies on her and her work (I'm seeing some sort of jealousy as well?).
Mercury trine Mercury: Despite their disputes, they can manage to communicate well. I also see him entrusting her with his personal affairs. Hence explains their Kakao talks about him confidently talking to her about "stepping over" aespa. Though they might be different, they're driven by money and would do whatever possible to make it work.
Sun trine Sun: They're similar than they think 😂😂. When they first met, I see them being pretty chill with one another. Like they clicked easily.
BSH's Pluto conjunct her Saturn: Pluto represents power and influence meanwhile Saturn represents restrictions. He used his power (being the chair person of HYBE) and takes a lot of the profit and restricting her (her being the CEO of one of the subsidiaries and doesn't give her lots of freedom as she wants).
MHJ's Neptune opposite his Saturn: Her creative visions don't go with his view on things. This also goes with the whole "ILLIT copying NewJeans" scandal. Neptune represents her artistic ideas and products (NewJeans), BSH's Saturn is in Gemini. Sometimes I see Gemini's as trend hoppers, they can morph into whatever. THAT'S ILLIT! ILLIT is basically BSH's version of HER idea. Her Neptune is at a Saturn degree which shows that she doesn't like having her ideas taken by others and can get pretty defensive over them.
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secretcessy · 1 month ago
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i'm just soaking up my last few moments of freedom before life turns into a living hell again school starts soon 💔
and isn't he cute? he's into kids🎀
bang-pig-fat-ass-coward-pathetic-dickhead-killable-slapable-pork-idiot-lazy-ass-shameless-waste-of-space-miserable-sack-of-bones-oppar!
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i hope you soaked up reel gud bebs im alw prayin for ur sanity and im alw ur no.1 supporter... sort of... :DDD
yah. ryn. stop.
not them ban shihyuk pics i swear to god
stop fkn downloading them ryn its bad for ur health
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crackedblorbina · 2 months ago
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So bang shihyuk is a creep. Not surprised at all
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ao3feed-ateez · 6 months ago
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The Return of the Mayfly Order
read it on AO3 at https://ift.tt/KMHmA90 by MemoreM Seven years after his family home is destroyed by mortals, Bang Chan finds himself in a nightmarish world of his father's sinister creation. Will he be able to save Sanctuary from its fate, or will his hopes and dreams come crashing down around him? Words: 5539, Chapters: 1/26, Language: English Fandoms: Stray Kids (Band), ATEEZ (Band), BTOB (Band) Rating: Explicit Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Major Character Death Categories: Gen Characters: Lee Taemin, Park Jinyoung | JYP, Bang Shihyuk, Kim Yonghwan | Eden, Lily Morrow, Lee Taeyong, BamBam Kunpimook Bhuwakul, Jeon Soyeon, Monsta X Ensemble, TOMORROW X TOGETHER Ensemble, Dreamcatcher (Korea Band) Ensemble, Bangtan Boys | BTS Ensemble, Day6 (Band) Ensemble, SEVENTEEN Ensemble, xikers Ensemble, Byun Baekhyun, Seo Jungkwon | Tiger JK, Lee Mujin, Ahn Hyejin | Hwasa, NCT Ensemble, Matthew Kim | BM, Hannah Bang, Stray Kids Ensemble, ATEEZ Ensemble, BTOB Ensemble Relationships: Han Jisung | Han/Lee Minho | Lee Know, Bang Chan/Han Jisung/Hwang Hyunjin/Kim Seungmin/Lee Felix/Lee Minho/Seo Changbin/Yang Jeongin, Choi Jongho/Choi San/Jeong Yunho/Jung Wooyoung/Kang Yeosang/Kim Hongjoong/Park Seonghwa/Song Mingi, Choi Jongho/Kang Yeosang, Choi San/Jung Wooyoung (ATEEZ), Kim Hongjoong/Park Seonghwa, Hwang Hyunjin/Kim Seungmin/Yang Jeongin | I.N, Jeong Yunho/Song Mingi (ATEEZ) Additional Tags: High Fantasy, War, Inspired by Castlevania, Inspired by the Diablo franchise, Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder - PTSD, Trauma, Suicidal Thoughts, Alcohol Abuse/Alcoholism, Mental Health Issues, Grief/Mourning, Racism, Poverty, Homelessness, Abduction, Torture, Abandonment, Implied/Referenced Sexual Assault, Major Character Injury, Character Death, buckle up this is gonna be a long one, I am not nice to my characters get ready, Found Family, Genocide, Codependency read it on AO3 at https://ift.tt/KMHmA90
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seoul-italybts · 11 years ago
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[✎ TESTO ♫ ITA] Skool Luv Affair - BTS⠸ ❛ Skit : Soulmate ❜⠸ 12.02.14
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[✎ TESTO ♫ ITA] BTS
❛ Skit : Soulmate ❜
🏫💕 Sketch : Anima Gemella 🔔📚
__💿Skool Luv Affair , 12. 02. 2014
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RM: Cavolo
Jimin: Ah, secondo me appena..appena appare la luce rossa...la lucina....
RM: Ti ho già detto di non fare caso alla luce rossa
Jimin: Sì, ma hyung, ci fai caso anche tu; facevi finta di dormire, in macchina [quando la lucina rossa della videocamera che li riprende si accende] (*imita il russare / ride)
SUGA: Ultimamente non so proprio di che cosa potremmo parlare nello skit…
RM: Era [un dormire] assolutamente spontaneo, razza di peste
V: Sul serio, di che cosa possiamo parlare?
SUGA: Non ho davvero più idee per questi skit
Jin: [Potremmo fare] Qualcosa di melenso, davvero imbarazzante
SUGA: Non so davvero più che fare
J-Hope: Parliamo dei nostri tipi [di partner] ideali
V: Oh, hyung! Hyung! Qual è il tuo tipo ideale?
(Jin: Mi chiedo come facciano i nostri discorsi ad essere sempre così da manuale)
J-Hope: Il mio? Una ragazza come te
V: Ah, sul serio? Ma sul serio??!!
J-Hope: (*tenero) Sì! Mi fai venir voglia di morderti!
J-Hope/Tutti: * urlano / ridono *
RM: Ah, d'ora in poi i BTS saranno un gruppo da 5 membri
SUGA: Oggi voi due volete proprio farvi...farvi ammazzare, eh? Volete che promuoviamo come un gruppo a 5 membri...
J-Hope / V: * continuano ad urlare / fare vocine *
Jin: Ah, quanto baccano
J-Hope: Scusate...
SUGA: Questo skit non ha proprio senso
* bussano, si apre la porta *
Jimin: Salve!
BTS: Buonasera!
Bang ShiHyuk PD: Hey, che fate?
PDogg: Scusi?
Bang PD: Ho chiesto cosa state facendo
PDogg: Ah, stiamo registrando
Bang PD: Avete intenzione di continuare fino all'alba?
PDogg: No, non fino… abbiamo quasi finito
Bang PD: Mmh, ma perché ridacchiate?
PDogg: Eh?
Bang PD: Perché sorridete così?
PDogg: Perché [la videocamera] è ancora accesa
Bang PD: Ah, state registrando lo skit?
J-Hope: Che cosa possiamo fare?
RM: È entrato mentre registravamo lo skit, ora che ne parla, potremmo davvero usare questo come skit
SUGA: Un'idea niente male, però! Includiamolo nello skit, no?
Jin: Ospite speciale!
J-Hope: Capo, di cosa potremmo parlare nello skit?
RM: Per favore, ci dia qualche consiglio
J-Hope: Cosa potremmo fare per lo skit?
Jin: Per favore, una parola o due prima di andare!
SUGA: Sul serio, questo è uno skit…
Bang PD: No, ma cosa stavate registrando prima di…
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multifandumbmeg · 11 months ago
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Watching the Disney+ Docuseries on BTS and I'm loving the insights from Bang Shihyuk (Bang PD). Hearing his perspective on why he chose each member, marketed the group as an idol band etc is so fascinating, and smart, and I think it shows why he and BigHit/Hybe were able to succeed and keep growing beyond their initial position in the great big horrifying hierarchy of of the kpop industry. One really popular group can make a huge difference for a company, but it's also easy to let that band fade away or never have another hit group or just stagnate and do fairly well in the local market. BTS is a one-of-a-kind talent (at least after the initial rookie push, which is standard but deserves our eternal consternation), but they've only become global household names because Bang PD and his staff made the right choices with marketing, treatment of their talent, deals, and media exposure.
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