#avrngers endgame

[imposterogers]

avengers infinity war and avengers endgame took on a plotline with too big of stakes at too large of a scale that they were never prepared to properly handle

[iwritefanficsometimes]

I’m about to invent an entire afterlife system so that I can have my faves back. Watch me.

[rodrickheffeley]

tony: you threw a moon on me. thanos, now get ready to taste the sun               

peter: omg omg shaggy is possessing mr. stark

[valkyrieandstrangeridingaragorn]

That's not a new beginning that's just terrible writing choices. Ngl feige's plan to kill the avrngers off in endgame would've made phase 4 not be as dumb. Dang russos

Yes that's what I meant, that most of the time Marvel doesn't do new beginnings and character development, they just take a character, they have them say one line about something traumatizing that has happened to them in the past and voila! they're healed. It's bad writing but the main problem is they're more preoccupied with the overall story of the multiverse saga than they are about characterization.

I guess it's no coincidence that the best stories they came up with in this phase are the movies and series that are separated from the main narrative: WandaVision can stand on its own, same with Moon Knight, those two are character works that don't address the multiverse or the big bad... they're completely focused on Wanda and Marc, they have eps with the characters' background in the spotlight where they get to narrate what happened to them, we get to hear it from them... they're brilliant.

Compare that to the movies and shows that serve as trailers for the saga and you see the difference: the Loki series is not about Loki at all, MoM is all over the place and is not a story about Stephen...

Even what Feige wanted for EG is still pointless. Kill all the Avengers for what, shock value? That works the first time but it doesn't really have any re-watch value, perhaps Matt Damon is right when he says studios don't care about that anymore given that streaming has taken the reigns in recent years and they don't need to sell DVDs anymore.

The optimistic side of me thinks perhaps they will see the criticism and they'll get better in Phase 5 but... my hope is slowly dying, especially after L&T.

[imposterogers]

something like the snap (which killed off half of all life in the UNIVERSE) would have been catastrophic. it was never something that should of been breezed over. the fallout would have been horrific and messy and borderline apocalyptic. the undoing of the snap also would have been the same. you cannot simply reintroduce trillions of organisms back into a universe five years later and expect it to go smoothly and be Fixed just like that. once they got the gauntlet, they should have made it as tho the snap never happened. also, it was a universal affair, not just an earth and gotg problem. were thousands of alien races just sitting back waiting for someone else to fix it? I doubt it. marvel took a huge bite and refused to chew it

avengers infinity war and avengers endgame took on a plotline with too big of stakes at too large of a scale that they were never prepared to properly handle