#askteamgrey

[noirandchocolate]

Time for funny comment roundup for Round 1B! There were LOTS of really good thoughtful responses about who would win, too. I wish I could reblog everyone but it'd be such a flood, omg.

Match 1, Vetinari vs. Willikins

Is it funnier if Willikins wins? Yes. Is Willikins one terrifying son of a bitch? Also yes. But Havelock Vetinari is the most terrifying son of a bitch of them all.

--@always-burningbright

They would casually hold common household objects at each other while giving pointed glances for half an hour.

--@ahno-nimus

I do see this as being as close a fight as Vetinari would ever see. Because Willikins hides in plain sight in a very similar way. I 100% see them comparing notes afterwards though. About tactics and about Sir Samuel. Much to his chagrin.

--@onwardsandsideways

Match 2, Adora Belle vs. Pump

Close call but Mr. Pump's gonna get grounded for two weeks after this, probably.

He's already grounded he's made of clay.

--@purpledemoncat and @thestuffed-alligator

Gotta go with Mr. Pump on this one, because while Spike is determined and kind of mean, and also knows a lot about golems, all Mr. Pump has to do is pick her up and hold her until she has a nic fit and gives in.

--@javaelemental

Match 3, Nanny vs. Cheery

Nanny's gonna win just because she'll set Cheery up with one of her kids and assimilate her into the Ogg family.

--@purpledemoncat

I definitely see Nanny winning here. But that's just the precursor to a truly epic Girls' Night Out organized by Nanny. So everyone wins in the end. Until the truly epic hangover kicks in.

--@onwardsandsideways

Gytha Ogg could make anyone give up from sheer bashfulness. She would get through her song about the wizard's staff and Cheery would give up out of embarrassment.

--@stonebluerue

Match 4, Lu-Tze vs. Otto

Lu-Tze taps into his years of camouflage and sweeping prowess that Otto arrives for the fight and doesn't even realise Lu-Tze is there. Then when he turns to leave Lu-Tze is stood directly in front of him and Otto suddenly remembers he had been hit 60 times.

--@critfumbled

I think I have to go with Lu-Tze. I fully believe Otto is capable of killing very nearly anybody or anything. But he's trying so hard to be good these days. He's trying so hard to be just a Silly Little Guy. So he wouldn't put the real effort in. And though the fight would be long and increasingly ridiculous he'd inevitably lose like Elmer Fudd vs Bugs Bunny.

--@omicheese

Otto is unhinged and undeathly strong but I think Lu-Tze would carry this one. Possibly by winning before Otto was even born.

--@chuthulhu

Otto would lose immediately. He'd want to get a pre-match photo to commemorate the occasion and immediately disintegrate himself again. Lu-Tze would take a moment to sweep him into an aesthetically pleasing design before reconstructing him.

--@nerdomancer

Match 5, Ridcully vs. Polly

Read this description of the fight by @genreral-systems-vehicle, it's great.

On one hand, Polly is military, with all the (trial by fire) training and surviving by the skin of your teeth that entails. Ridcully on the other hand was able to fuck up the UU's tendency towards murder based on promotion and is very in favor of aggressive friendly conflict. In the end I voted Ridcully because a man who can stomach wow wow sauce like that is not to be trifled with.

--@nerdomancer

Cmon people, being the most competent wizard is not a high bar as wizards are inherently incompetent. Polly on the other hand is hypercompetent and has zero chill and no shame. The gall who can impress Vimes in sheer audacity clearly has the upper hand.

--@askteamgrey

Match 6, Jason vs. Carrot

But Carrot wouldn't just win. He'd make Jason feel like losing was a kind of winning, and leave everyone starry-eyed in their support of Jason. ...while very definitely, very straightforwardly, outright winning.

--@doomspaniels

I think they should have a wrestling match. In oil. For charity. I think they'd have fun and become friends. Nanny is selling the tickets.

--@n3cropants

I feel like Carrot would be more of a disciplined fighter and Jason wouldn't hesitate to fight dirty but also it's Carrot he's like the tallest human in the disc.

--@cake-my-beloved

Match 7, Angua vs. Rincewind

I think Angua would put up a damn good effort, being a pursuit predator and all, but I think Rincewind would fall into a well and emerge in Ankh-Morpork circa -2812 The Year of the Scurrilous Sea Urchin and he'd have a whole new set of problems.

--@purpledemoncat (I screamed.)

Now, obviously Rincewind is no match for Angua physically, but I think we can all agree that the correct storyline for him being in a tournament would be to accidentally win while attempting to get himself disqualified.

--@wyrdsisterspodcast

I think that because it's a Fight Angua would win. Meanwhile if she had to actually Arrest Rincewind for something she would never ever succeed. He's the Roadrunner beep beep.

--@omicheese

Match 8, Agnes vs. Jackrum

Jackrum. Agnes would scream really loud and big but then Jackrum will be like "Hahaha I lost my ear drums IN THE WAR!" and do a flying kick.

--@purpledemoncat

I really wanted to say Agnes just cause vibes but the Jackrum picture looks like it's about to stab me personally for considering that option so uh. Jackrum I guess.

--@violetren (this literally made me start wheezing)

Agnes vs Jackrum--Jackrum would win easy peasy. Perdita vs Jackrum though would get really messy REALLY quick. But all that said Jackrum lives in the trenches he lives in the pit he's coming out of this one on top. NOthing is too low to stoop for him, no trick is too underhanded.

--@omicheese

Can't wait to see what y'all have to say about Round 2! XD

[quailfence]

[Image description: Two photos of the replies on this post

HarperTheJay says : @/KidSomeday i don't really know what this means but here

ardentmystacina says: @/HarperTheJay it's a reference to that the ex-bank robber who trained the writers for Leverage told them that they'd reached the skill level to be professional thieves themselves because their planning of the heists and defenses was exactly what professionals would be doing

AskTeamGrey says: weren't they contacted by federal agents because their plot was too plausible?

error-404-fuck-not-found says: @/AskTeamGrey not just too plausible - they concocted a form of financial fraud so perfect as to be impossible to detect or stop, and the FBI begged them not to give criminals an instruction booklet on how to pull it off. End description.]

[annemarieyeretzian]

lmaooo right? people want their behavior to be irresponsible So Bad

again, their options were a) save the world and in the process save fearne or b) throw the crown back at the unseelie court, turning a blind eye to a dangerous scheme which would continue to directly affect their daughter, and only maybe make it out alive

[pocketgalaxies]

You were talking about how galaxy brained it was of them to use Artagan to get the minute long rest. The scary option was if they couldnt reach him or if he wouldnt help because there was a risk of them being gone for days, weeks or even years! And Keyleth didnt even think about it and it was such a clutch play and i love it!

true!!!

i am watching talks right now and laura and travis did mention that the feywild time-jumping plan had been on their minds for a couple of weeks at that point but - from a character standpoint it was indeed SUPER clutch and i love keyleth so much for that

[kdinjenzen]

What is your opinion on Golden Sun: Dark Dawn?

It gets a lot of unreasonable hate.

Dark Dawn is GOOD and FUN

[sir-adamus]

@askteamgrey then when he did get a role, he boasted about his shitty behaviour

but rwby gets the last laugh on this one:

https://twitter.com/TheMistressDove/status/1757291642497671485/quotes

I like how ever since JelloApoco fucked his career over, pretty much everyone who's had a piece of media "satirized" by him is pretty much going to town nitpicking everything wrong with his nitpicking.

it seems that he's really done his level best to piss off everybody over the years - i think it's probably a notable thing that he's never worked with Team Four Star, despite them frequently contracting VAs through Sound Cadence (including their official dub of Hells), and him generally being known for his web content (and i believe he also used to do abridged stuff way back in the day), and that a few of the TFS guys have liked posts calling his behaviour out not just on this but in general makes me think he'd already done something to piss them off before this - oh sorry correction on this (should've checked first honestly) he did work on a couple of things for them (specifically a couple of their 'in five minutes' things, but not really in major capacities)

at least one of the voice actors who actually worked on the dub (Alejandro Saab) also liked tweets calling out Jello's bullshit regarding what he did on this project

i dunno, it kinda suggests to me at least that Blaber was not a very popular person in voice acting spaces before this and the bridges he's burning were barely holding on to begin with

also this is 100% just a coincidence but literally a day before this all happened, Sound Cadence announced a seminar regarding voice actor etiquette, which seems hilariously ironic given the shit he pulled immediately after

[tumblezwei]

If you're having a hard time getting into One piece, the Movies "Baron Omatsuri and the secret Island" or "Strong World" are both very good and encapsulates the joy of OP in a way that makes them very good for people starting out and having a hard time getting into it. Baron has some real dark themes so just beware of that

I will take note and put them on the watchlist! Thanks!

[luimnigh]

Ok, you have my attention. What is Gideon the ninth?

Well, it’s about these two girls, Gideon and Harrowhark, who are the only young people on their entire planet and hate each other’s guts. But when Harrow gets an invitation to a Necromancer conference that seeks to give it’s attendees the opportunity to become immortal, just like the leaders of the Space Empire they live in, Harrow forces Gideon to be her partner in this endeavour, as she needs someone who can Sword Good, and Gideon is literally the only option. 

Naturally, things do not go as planned at the Necromancer Conference, with our heroes becoming closer as the stories progress. 

TL;DR: Lesbian Necromancers Enemies To Lovers Mystery In Space. 

[disregardcanon]

How far into TMA are you now? Do you have a fear that you resonate with more than the others(in a good or bad way) ? do you have any predictions for the rest of the show?

1. i just finished the episode where melanie quits! i thought it was really well done and i'm excited to see what happens from there, because this morning i get to take a walk and that's when i listen :)

2. i find myself most drawn to both the eye and the spiral.

eye is a combo of the desire to know vs the terrifying ordeal of being known being something i know i fear a lot. it's something i could see myself stumbling into on purpose, even though it's something that scares me because it interests me too. it would always be hesitant and reluctant, but i think i'd be too curious to full out stop.

for the spiral, it's because i already fear that there isn't any sense to be made in the world and nothing matters unless we make it matter? so. like. i know deep down inside that if i were to end up in a situation that confirmed that, and that not only that the world that doesn't make sense actively wants to kill me.... i'd go absolutely fucking bonkers. i think i might even consider feeding, like, a favor to people? at least they know how the world sucks now, or they died... so they don't have to anymore? *shivers* yeah thank you spiral for not existing

3. i'm not sure how many of my predictions would count as predictions at this point because i have a LOT of spoilers. current prediction is that peter lukas is going to purposefully shove martin into the lonely as a favor for elias so that jon has to go get him for that last mark before he can Do The Ritual, which i'm sure he's going to do on accident. i don't actually know how elias tricks him into doing it, but my bet is that he buries it in a statement so that jon physically can't stop himself.

[citadelofmythoughts]

I can't leave this from @askteamgrey in the replies

Kind of a weird question, but what do you think lacks more representation m/m or f/f?

I might not be the best person to ask because I really have limited knowledge of m/m rep. It's not something that remotely interests me.

That said, from what I've seen posted on Tumblr, live action shows with m/m rep tend to have a much longer lifespan on streaming services than f/f shows.

It does feel like f/f romance has the edge in animation but that could be my bias and lack of knowledge though.

[yang-did-everything-right]

The thing that bugs me the most (among the maaany things that bug me) about that Power level anon is that they seem to think that shounen is a genre wich it isn't?? It's a demographic, one wich i'm pretty sure RWBY isn't actually part of?? They keep saying "shounen shows do this!" and then gives examples of tropes from Toriyama inspired action shows wich RWBY just isn't?? RWBY's roots lie closer to FMA and Soul Eater wich are both slower and more thoughtful, still with kickass fighting.

In fairness I’m also at fault there if that’s the case, I see anime listed as shonen, so I just assumed it is in fact a genre, so I won’t fault that if it is a misconception. The rest though? Yeah nope. Not comparable by almost any metric.

[noirandchocolate]

In regards to the post about the Thieves guild, i feel like a small unsaid joke about them is that Vetinari pretty much turned them into tax collectors and people are happy to pay because they are somehow more ok with being robbed than they are with paying taxes even when the net result is exactly the same. It's not a big thing but it's a fun way to look at the Thieves guild and how people treat them.

It's true! Given that all the heads of the Guilds answer to Vetinari to some degree (although he lets them believe they're more independent than they are), the Thieves' Guild and all the others are in a way part of the Government. The Thieves are not only like specialized tax collectors (after all, they 'collect money with menaces' and Pratchett joked that's pretty much what taxation is), they're the local police force when it comes to unlicensed theft. Meanwhile the Assassins perform legal murder and come down hard on unlicensed assassination, and the Seamstresses have their own enforcers for violence against their members. Other Guilds require licenses to operate, too, and all of them collect dues. So basically, the Guilds work very nearly identically to government agencies, policing their own spheres and making their own money.

And yeah, it's VERY funny how the citizenry is happy to just pay protection money to the Thieves' Guild to make sure they only get a bit of a bump on the head during their one mugging per year, but they all HATE paying taxes to the point where Vetinari says that Ankh-Morpork, as a state, has little to no money in its coffers.

[commandervisor]

Since you're just about to start vol 7, is there any theories you have going forward? Is there something you really want to see happend? Have you been spoiled for anything?

Putting this under a “Read More” because this is just one thing after another… 

Theories? In hindsight after writing all of this, most of it is not the main cast because I guess at the moment, they’re rather well-adjusted and/or recovering from their issues rather well lol, so I can’t make big enough guesses on them right now.

Emerald and maybe Mercury GTFO there, I think being stuck in Salem’s castle with Hazel until whatever goes down in Atlas I guess will 

Emerald becomes a Maiden, my guesses are:

A “redeemed” Cinder thinks of Emerald in her last moments, but it’s kept vague if she was thinking of her because she actually cared about her or because of something completely unrelated to that (ex. “Emerald better have-*gets killed midsentence*”).

Otherwise, Cinder finds out Emerald is now a Maiden and turns against her. Now Emerald has to deal with her mother figure, the woman who saved her life, wanting her dead.

Either way, I think this could lead to her redemption.

Mercury is pretty hard to read, especially after what he said in V6 about why he acts the way he does and how he feels about his relationship with Cinder and Emerald. Tyrian summed him up as just putting up a tough exterior because he doesn’t know anything else, so if something like Emerald going rogue happens, then it’ll be interesting to see how long he’ll keep those barriers up against Emerald.

Cinder “redemption” arc. I don’t know how, but it would constitute showing her backstory (because that infatuation for power and not wanting to be powerless has to come from something, and she’s based on Cinderella, so.). V6 already had Salem basically kicking her out of the house for disobeying her (albeit she’s apparently still keeping an eye on her…), so Cinder left to her own devices could end up doing a lot more loose cannon-y things outside of trying to get revenge on Ruby and this eventually leads into her becoming an anti-villain and something of an anti-hero?

Pyrrha’s and maybe Amber’s souls are actually connected to Cinder, kind of like with Ozpin and Oscar, because 1) Maiden mechanics? and 2) It seems strange to me that back in V3 when they hooked up Pyrrha to Amber in that aura transfer machine, they made a big deal out of how Pyrrha “might not be the same” if the transfer works but then she died anyways so that part seemingly didn’t matter outside of brief angst? At the moment, I don’t know where this would go other than Pyrrha and Amber kind of haunting Cinder like ghosts, maybe this could lead to her “redemption”?

After what happened with Vernal, I don’t know what to make of Winter Schnee and Summer Rose as possible Maidens, but it seems relevant? We’ll just have to wait and see.

Likewise, I don’t really know where Hazel’s arc may go, either they’ll keep him as someone who refuses to move forward and ends up dying a bitter, meaningless life, or he’ll finally realize that and maybe help the heroes against Salem and/or Em & Merc leave Salem (I think him trying to take the blame for Cinder’s failure in V6 was foreshadowing), probably at the cost of his life because I can’t imagine him turning against Salem and managing to walk away alive.

Weiss tearing Jacques a new one, because we got Yang doing that to Raven in V5 and Blake (and Yang) doing it to Adam in V6 too, so I think we’ll continue to see cycles of abuse, hate, spite, and so on get broken from this point on.

And also take Whitley and GTFO there too, it’d be neat to see him unlearn his behavior from being under Jacques this whole time and I guess “redeem” himself… I have no idea who should take him in but he could stay with Maria if she and the group are parting ways in Atlas, it probably wouldn’t be safe for him to tag along with RRAYNBBOW (or however they’re called now lol). I pretty much envision this as what Eh**z said about Azulademption if it had happened in ATLA (”I’m happy.” “Yes, we know you are, Whitley.”).

Tai fighting, because they’ve established him as being retired while Raven and Qrow are still in action, so I think we might see him fight at some point as things come to a head.

Because RWBY is a good show that knows how to properly “subvert expectations”, it is to be expected that a lot of questions and mysteries will get answered (ex. Almost everything about Summer, Raven/The Spring Maiden subplot to come back, probably if a Maiden killing another Maiden actually boosts their power or not, whatever they have to do to teach Salem her lesson, etc.), and there are a lot of endgames they’re likely building up to (ex. Salem is defeated, Oz and Salem reunite and reconcile in the afterlife, Oscar is the last Oz reincarnation because Oz’s quest finally gets a happy ending, the Gods leave Remnant alone, maybe the Grimm disappear from Remnant, etc.).

Things I want to see happen (outside of ships because I think y’all know already lol):

I think this is a victim of the show trying to find its footing early on, which does happen, but I think it would be/have been neat if we got to see Ruby’s friends from Signal at some point (I’m guessing this might be prime self-insert OC material) or at least get a glimpse of the “elementary”/”primary” Huntsmen academies, if only because I like worldbuilding/lore and Chekhov’s guns/foreshadowing :P. Though I doubt this will happen since the show is moving in a really different direction from the school setting it had back in V1-V3, which is fine.

Jacques joining Adam in clown hell

STRQ flashbacks, and maybe a TRQ reunion? Again, I can see this as something happening as things come to a head, especially since this would require Raven to kind of turncoat back to the good guys.

EDIT: I would also like to see Goodwitch come back, but I guess that might be a while since we’re focusing on Atlas at the moment and then presumably Vacuo?

Watts shaving his dumb moostash

More anime voice actors, because OH WOW IT’S AMAZING HOW THE ACTING INDUSTRY WORKS, HUH VI? 

I think that’s all I can think of for now… Anything else I usually wonder about is something I bring up in my liveblogs? I think??

Have I been spoiled for anything? Yeah, I guess, but it was because of people rb’ing RWBY on my dash/TL/whatever before I started watching the show, so I didn’t have context and I didn’t think much of any of it beyond that they looked neat. That, plus me having the memory of a goldfish about all of that probably helped… For example, ask me about Homestuck, The Adventure Zone, Critical Role, The Arcana, etc. because I see those on my dash a lot, but I have no idea what they’re about other than maybe some general info and a couple of character names.

That being said, I knew/know about some characters that hadn’t/haven’t shown up yet because that’s pretty hard to avoid (at the beginning, I only really knew RWBYJNPR, Sun, Penny, and also Ozpin, Qrow, and Summer but pretty much in name only; back when V7 started, I did notice a lot of popularity with certain characters from that volume), and some things I did know like someone being able to turn into a bird (when the Faunus lore got introduced, I thought this was going to be a Faunus power lol*), Blake was or was not a cat-person, Summer being gone, Bumbleby being the ship, and maybe more that I can’t remember at the moment.

* …“What I expected vs. What I got: RWBY Edition” is probably something that warrants its own post. Hmm…

It’s 3 AM and this is a huge garbled mess, but as you might guess, I’m really invested in RWBY right now and it’s fun wondering where they’ll take the story next. This is quality.

[treeofcups]

askteamgrey replied to your post “Matt, explaining what effect this next point of corruption will have...”

the dice were the real mvp trough this entire arc for the corruption points alone

Yeah they are! Gotta love that narrative flow!

[angstandhappiness]

@askteamgrey one thing to point out is that oz did not have a hand in Vacuo turning into a wasteland. the world of remnant on Vacuo specifically mentions the foreign exploitation being the cause of "ancient vacuo" (aka fuck of long ago) turning into a hellhole and not the war. and the great war video showed that mistral and atlas had already colonized vacuo and forcing them to comply with their rules long before the war

Interesting

Giving it some more thought, there's a lot of details that makes me consider why Ironwood would consider all of his evil actions to be justified:

Because he was basically copying what he interpreted OZPIN did over his many incarnations.

When you really take a hard look at the things Ozma did in the past, a lot of them can easily be seen as atrocities in their own right:

He decimated Vacuo with the Sword of Destruction and left it a starving wasteland where many are nationalists to varying degrees with heavy eugenicist/Social Darwinist tendencies out of implied trauma for what happened to them.

He's created and manipulated multiple cult-like groups around himself in his attempts to stop Salem and complete his mandate, also ruining many lives out of misguided good intentions.

He's created a new world order after the Great War that on the surface preaches unity, but suffers from numerous societal flaws as a result of him being so tunnel visioned to stopping Salem that he ignores the very real rot lurking beneath the surface.

He's lied repeatedly to his followers about the truth of his mandate and the reality that he doesn't know how to accomplish any of his goals, essentially sacrificing them on a fruitless eternal suicide mission.

And there's even more that's probably occurred over the course of centuries of attempting to achieve his goals.

So of course Ironwood, being unable to really self-reflect or really consider the complex nature of Ozpin's actions, would see all of the above as either something to emulate or to use to justify his own atrocities; because after all, it's for the greater good isn't it?

The key difference more than anything is that Ozma is someone desperately trying to fulfill a mission that is proving more and more to be highly suspect and likely the result of being manipulated by the God of Light, and Ozma for his many, many, many mistakes, does seem to be slowly coming around to the reality that he NEEDS to change his views and methods or else he will only keep getting worse. While Ironwood could never do this because he didn't want to turn away from his bad choices, only validate and justify them to avoid facing the atrocities he was committing.

...When I put it like that, it honestly makes Ironwood the Cinder to Ozma's Salem. Someone who is emulating a person based on a facade of what they THINK the emulated is doing, and not looking any further than that.

"I have made more mistakes then any man, woman, or child on this planet" - Ozpin

"Winter, do not blame me! I have sacrificed everything!....I have only done what's best for Remnant and no one is grateful!" - Ironwood

Ironwood may have indeed emulated Oz either consciously or subconsciously but at least Ozpin can see what he's done and regret it.

Even at the end, I don't think Ironwood did.

[annemarieyeretzian]

yeah... yeah. fucking terrifying. honestly. fucking terrifying.

like. we’re not saying birdie has never Done A Bad Thing or Made A Poor Decision in her life. but all it took was yu *gesturing vaguely* at birdie to convince bell’s hells that she was not only as bad as, but much worse than, A LITERAL AND ACTUAL EVIL FEY ASSASSIN SENT TO CAUSE CHAOS AND COMMIT MURDER??????????