#askteamgrey

[noirandchocolate]

Time for funny comment roundup for Round 1B! There were LOTS of really good thoughtful responses about who would win, too. I wish I could reblog everyone but it'd be such a flood, omg.

Match 1, Vetinari vs. Willikins

Is it funnier if Willikins wins? Yes. Is Willikins one terrifying son of a bitch? Also yes. But Havelock Vetinari is the most terrifying son of a bitch of them all.

--@always-burningbright

They would casually hold common household objects at each other while giving pointed glances for half an hour.

--@ahno-nimus

I do see this as being as close a fight as Vetinari would ever see. Because Willikins hides in plain sight in a very similar way. I 100% see them comparing notes afterwards though. About tactics and about Sir Samuel. Much to his chagrin.

--@onwardsandsideways

Match 2, Adora Belle vs. Pump

Close call but Mr. Pump's gonna get grounded for two weeks after this, probably.

He's already grounded he's made of clay.

--@purpledemoncat and @thestuffed-alligator

Gotta go with Mr. Pump on this one, because while Spike is determined and kind of mean, and also knows a lot about golems, all Mr. Pump has to do is pick her up and hold her until she has a nic fit and gives in.

--@javaelemental

Match 3, Nanny vs. Cheery

Nanny's gonna win just because she'll set Cheery up with one of her kids and assimilate her into the Ogg family.

--@purpledemoncat

I definitely see Nanny winning here. But that's just the precursor to a truly epic Girls' Night Out organized by Nanny. So everyone wins in the end. Until the truly epic hangover kicks in.

--@onwardsandsideways

Gytha Ogg could make anyone give up from sheer bashfulness. She would get through her song about the wizard's staff and Cheery would give up out of embarrassment.

--@stonebluerue

Match 4, Lu-Tze vs. Otto

Lu-Tze taps into his years of camouflage and sweeping prowess that Otto arrives for the fight and doesn't even realise Lu-Tze is there. Then when he turns to leave Lu-Tze is stood directly in front of him and Otto suddenly remembers he had been hit 60 times.

--@critfumbled

I think I have to go with Lu-Tze. I fully believe Otto is capable of killing very nearly anybody or anything. But he's trying so hard to be good these days. He's trying so hard to be just a Silly Little Guy. So he wouldn't put the real effort in. And though the fight would be long and increasingly ridiculous he'd inevitably lose like Elmer Fudd vs Bugs Bunny.

--@omicheese

Otto is unhinged and undeathly strong but I think Lu-Tze would carry this one. Possibly by winning before Otto was even born.

--@chuthulhu

Otto would lose immediately. He'd want to get a pre-match photo to commemorate the occasion and immediately disintegrate himself again. Lu-Tze would take a moment to sweep him into an aesthetically pleasing design before reconstructing him.

--@nerdomancer

Match 5, Ridcully vs. Polly

Read this description of the fight by @genreral-systems-vehicle, it's great.

On one hand, Polly is military, with all the (trial by fire) training and surviving by the skin of your teeth that entails. Ridcully on the other hand was able to fuck up the UU's tendency towards murder based on promotion and is very in favor of aggressive friendly conflict. In the end I voted Ridcully because a man who can stomach wow wow sauce like that is not to be trifled with.

--@nerdomancer

Cmon people, being the most competent wizard is not a high bar as wizards are inherently incompetent. Polly on the other hand is hypercompetent and has zero chill and no shame. The gall who can impress Vimes in sheer audacity clearly has the upper hand.

--@askteamgrey

Match 6, Jason vs. Carrot

But Carrot wouldn't just win. He'd make Jason feel like losing was a kind of winning, and leave everyone starry-eyed in their support of Jason. ...while very definitely, very straightforwardly, outright winning.

--@doomspaniels

I think they should have a wrestling match. In oil. For charity. I think they'd have fun and become friends. Nanny is selling the tickets.

--@n3cropants

I feel like Carrot would be more of a disciplined fighter and Jason wouldn't hesitate to fight dirty but also it's Carrot he's like the tallest human in the disc.

--@cake-my-beloved

Match 7, Angua vs. Rincewind

I think Angua would put up a damn good effort, being a pursuit predator and all, but I think Rincewind would fall into a well and emerge in Ankh-Morpork circa -2812 The Year of the Scurrilous Sea Urchin and he'd have a whole new set of problems.

--@purpledemoncat (I screamed.)

Now, obviously Rincewind is no match for Angua physically, but I think we can all agree that the correct storyline for him being in a tournament would be to accidentally win while attempting to get himself disqualified.

--@wyrdsisterspodcast

I think that because it's a Fight Angua would win. Meanwhile if she had to actually Arrest Rincewind for something she would never ever succeed. He's the Roadrunner beep beep.

--@omicheese

Match 8, Agnes vs. Jackrum

Jackrum. Agnes would scream really loud and big but then Jackrum will be like "Hahaha I lost my ear drums IN THE WAR!" and do a flying kick.

--@purpledemoncat

I really wanted to say Agnes just cause vibes but the Jackrum picture looks like it's about to stab me personally for considering that option so uh. Jackrum I guess.

--@violetren (this literally made me start wheezing)

Agnes vs Jackrum--Jackrum would win easy peasy. Perdita vs Jackrum though would get really messy REALLY quick. But all that said Jackrum lives in the trenches he lives in the pit he's coming out of this one on top. NOthing is too low to stoop for him, no trick is too underhanded.

--@omicheese

Can't wait to see what y'all have to say about Round 2! XD

[quailfence]

[Image description: Two photos of the replies on this post

HarperTheJay says : @/KidSomeday i don't really know what this means but here

ardentmystacina says: @/HarperTheJay it's a reference to that the ex-bank robber who trained the writers for Leverage told them that they'd reached the skill level to be professional thieves themselves because their planning of the heists and defenses was exactly what professionals would be doing

AskTeamGrey says: weren't they contacted by federal agents because their plot was too plausible?

error-404-fuck-not-found says: @/AskTeamGrey not just too plausible - they concocted a form of financial fraud so perfect as to be impossible to detect or stop, and the FBI begged them not to give criminals an instruction booklet on how to pull it off. End description.]

[annemarieyeretzian]

lmaooo right? people want their behavior to be irresponsible So Bad

again, their options were a) save the world and in the process save fearne or b) throw the crown back at the unseelie court, turning a blind eye to a dangerous scheme which would continue to directly affect their daughter, and only maybe make it out alive

[dlartistanon]

@askteamgrey replied to your post “Uh, so I just saw a reddit post on why Shining...”:

i don't know enough but could she not be calling him father like one would call a priest father? the confessors seem very religious by nature and she's adressign him like one would a senior in a congregation?

​I do not think that’s the case at all. The Chinese characters that were used are specifically “ 父亲 “, “fu qin“, literally “father“ in the parental sense. Not a priest.

It’s this specific wording that is confounding translators. If Shining had meant to address the male head of a family, like a patriarch, there were other words she could’ve used, like potentially 家长 or maybe 父兄. 

Back when I made my initial post about the Chapter 11 Confessor scene, I had opted to use “patriarch“ instead of “father”, because I had assumed, given the context of her module, that the brother was the head of the family, and/or that this was just another strange HG writing quirk. However, it being actually father threw a wrench in all of the info we had gleaned from said module.

No one I know who can read CN knows how to reconcile Shining’s module and Chapter 11 because of that one line and it’s honestly frustrating!

[pocketgalaxies]

You were talking about how galaxy brained it was of them to use Artagan to get the minute long rest. The scary option was if they couldnt reach him or if he wouldnt help because there was a risk of them being gone for days, weeks or even years! And Keyleth didnt even think about it and it was such a clutch play and i love it!

true!!!

i am watching talks right now and laura and travis did mention that the feywild time-jumping plan had been on their minds for a couple of weeks at that point but - from a character standpoint it was indeed SUPER clutch and i love keyleth so much for that

[sir-adamus]

@askteamgrey then when he did get a role, he boasted about his shitty behaviour

but rwby gets the last laugh on this one:

https://twitter.com/TheMistressDove/status/1757291642497671485/quotes

I like how ever since JelloApoco fucked his career over, pretty much everyone who's had a piece of media "satirized" by him is pretty much going to town nitpicking everything wrong with his nitpicking.

it seems that he's really done his level best to piss off everybody over the years - i think it's probably a notable thing that he's never worked with Team Four Star, despite them frequently contracting VAs through Sound Cadence (including their official dub of Hells), and him generally being known for his web content (and i believe he also used to do abridged stuff way back in the day), and that a few of the TFS guys have liked posts calling his behaviour out not just on this but in general makes me think he'd already done something to piss them off before this - oh sorry correction on this (should've checked first honestly) he did work on a couple of things for them (specifically a couple of their 'in five minutes' things, but not really in major capacities)

at least one of the voice actors who actually worked on the dub (Alejandro Saab) also liked tweets calling out Jello's bullshit regarding what he did on this project

i dunno, it kinda suggests to me at least that Blaber was not a very popular person in voice acting spaces before this and the bridges he's burning were barely holding on to begin with

also this is 100% just a coincidence but literally a day before this all happened, Sound Cadence announced a seminar regarding voice actor etiquette, which seems hilariously ironic given the shit he pulled immediately after

[kdinjenzen]

What is your opinion on Golden Sun: Dark Dawn?

It gets a lot of unreasonable hate.

Dark Dawn is GOOD and FUN

[tumblezwei]

If you're having a hard time getting into One piece, the Movies "Baron Omatsuri and the secret Island" or "Strong World" are both very good and encapsulates the joy of OP in a way that makes them very good for people starting out and having a hard time getting into it. Baron has some real dark themes so just beware of that

I will take note and put them on the watchlist! Thanks!

[noirandchocolate]

In regards to the post about the Thieves guild, i feel like a small unsaid joke about them is that Vetinari pretty much turned them into tax collectors and people are happy to pay because they are somehow more ok with being robbed than they are with paying taxes even when the net result is exactly the same. It's not a big thing but it's a fun way to look at the Thieves guild and how people treat them.

It's true! Given that all the heads of the Guilds answer to Vetinari to some degree (although he lets them believe they're more independent than they are), the Thieves' Guild and all the others are in a way part of the Government. The Thieves are not only like specialized tax collectors (after all, they 'collect money with menaces' and Pratchett joked that's pretty much what taxation is), they're the local police force when it comes to unlicensed theft. Meanwhile the Assassins perform legal murder and come down hard on unlicensed assassination, and the Seamstresses have their own enforcers for violence against their members. Other Guilds require licenses to operate, too, and all of them collect dues. So basically, the Guilds work very nearly identically to government agencies, policing their own spheres and making their own money.

And yeah, it's VERY funny how the citizenry is happy to just pay protection money to the Thieves' Guild to make sure they only get a bit of a bump on the head during their one mugging per year, but they all HATE paying taxes to the point where Vetinari says that Ankh-Morpork, as a state, has little to no money in its coffers.

[citadelofmythoughts]

I can't leave this from @askteamgrey in the replies

Kind of a weird question, but what do you think lacks more representation m/m or f/f?

I might not be the best person to ask because I really have limited knowledge of m/m rep. It's not something that remotely interests me.

That said, from what I've seen posted on Tumblr, live action shows with m/m rep tend to have a much longer lifespan on streaming services than f/f shows.

It does feel like f/f romance has the edge in animation but that could be my bias and lack of knowledge though.

[luimnigh]

Ok, you have my attention. What is Gideon the ninth?

Well, it’s about these two girls, Gideon and Harrowhark, who are the only young people on their entire planet and hate each other’s guts. But when Harrow gets an invitation to a Necromancer conference that seeks to give it’s attendees the opportunity to become immortal, just like the leaders of the Space Empire they live in, Harrow forces Gideon to be her partner in this endeavour, as she needs someone who can Sword Good, and Gideon is literally the only option. 

Naturally, things do not go as planned at the Necromancer Conference, with our heroes becoming closer as the stories progress. 

TL;DR: Lesbian Necromancers Enemies To Lovers Mystery In Space. 

[disregardcanon]

How far into TMA are you now? Do you have a fear that you resonate with more than the others(in a good or bad way) ? do you have any predictions for the rest of the show?

1. i just finished the episode where melanie quits! i thought it was really well done and i'm excited to see what happens from there, because this morning i get to take a walk and that's when i listen :)

2. i find myself most drawn to both the eye and the spiral.

eye is a combo of the desire to know vs the terrifying ordeal of being known being something i know i fear a lot. it's something i could see myself stumbling into on purpose, even though it's something that scares me because it interests me too. it would always be hesitant and reluctant, but i think i'd be too curious to full out stop.

for the spiral, it's because i already fear that there isn't any sense to be made in the world and nothing matters unless we make it matter? so. like. i know deep down inside that if i were to end up in a situation that confirmed that, and that not only that the world that doesn't make sense actively wants to kill me.... i'd go absolutely fucking bonkers. i think i might even consider feeding, like, a favor to people? at least they know how the world sucks now, or they died... so they don't have to anymore? *shivers* yeah thank you spiral for not existing

3. i'm not sure how many of my predictions would count as predictions at this point because i have a LOT of spoilers. current prediction is that peter lukas is going to purposefully shove martin into the lonely as a favor for elias so that jon has to go get him for that last mark before he can Do The Ritual, which i'm sure he's going to do on accident. i don't actually know how elias tricks him into doing it, but my bet is that he buries it in a statement so that jon physically can't stop himself.

[yang-did-everything-right]

The thing that bugs me the most (among the maaany things that bug me) about that Power level anon is that they seem to think that shounen is a genre wich it isn't?? It's a demographic, one wich i'm pretty sure RWBY isn't actually part of?? They keep saying "shounen shows do this!" and then gives examples of tropes from Toriyama inspired action shows wich RWBY just isn't?? RWBY's roots lie closer to FMA and Soul Eater wich are both slower and more thoughtful, still with kickass fighting.

In fairness I’m also at fault there if that’s the case, I see anime listed as shonen, so I just assumed it is in fact a genre, so I won’t fault that if it is a misconception. The rest though? Yeah nope. Not comparable by almost any metric.

[angstandhappiness]

@askteamgrey I love how it all fits with how the book describes how she hates thinking and planning and just wants to go with her feelings. Roman died and she feels like shit and she just wants to stab her feelings out and she doesn't really care who she stabs so when Cinder offers her not only a good stabbing but also a new partnership she's unable to resist and walks into all of the main plot craziness and she doesn't realize until it's too late

Interesting

The Tragic Irony of Neo’s Semblance

Has anyone else noticed the quite interesting, almost tragic irony that is Neo’s semblance?

With not even a snap of her fingers, Neo can assume the form of anyone she wishes. She can mimic another’s appearance perfectly. With her semblance, you’d think Neo would be the ideal spy and infiltrator, able to get into anywhere she wanted.

And yet, for all of her skill and talent in the mimicry of others, there is ONE thing, one aspect of just about anyone who’s form she assumes that Neo simply cannot replicate:

The ability to speak.

It’s almost kind of funny when you think about it. Here we have a girl who can not only mimic any appearance she wishes at a moment’s notice, but also has years of experience and practice in mimicking body language and other physical quirks. With only a bit of observation, she can replicate a person’s appearance and physical mannerisms so perfectly that not even that person’s closest friends and loved ones would be able to tell the difference…

…right up until the moment that person was expected to actually SAY something.

Again, it’s almost comical the way Neo’s semblance is hamstrung by her inability to talk. It’s easy to picture countless situations where Neo is able to replace some important or significant character, is able to perfectly replicate their appearance, get RIGHT up to whatever target she’s after… and then someone just asks her a question and then everything falls apart.

It’s why we always see Neo disguise herself as random background extras like Atlas soldiers or Schnee servants and almost never tries disguising herself as one of the heroes for more than VERY brief instances. Because she KNOWS that if she tried to replace Ruby or Weiss or anyone else to slip in among the heroes, she’d have maybe two minutes TOPS before everyone would start getting VERY curious at just how quiet Ruby or whoever else is suddenly being.

Oh, and if/when that person in question escapes whatever closet Neo stuffed them in and confronts their friends and puts Neo in a ‘spot the shapeshifter’ situation, Neo would be screwed. Like I think it’s pretty easy to imagine such a scene in Volume 9 where Ruby and Neo are fighting and Weiss/Blake/Yang find them, with Neo have disguised herself as Ruby.

The rest are confused at first, then Ruby blurts out “I’m the real one! That one’s Neo!”

The group then proceeds to look to the other Ruby who simply opens her mouth. Opens it again. And then gives a look that can only be described as “…Fuck.”

And given what we’ve seen of Neo, I can’t help but think this irony fits her all too well. When we look at Neo across her appearances in Roman Holiday going through Volumes 6-8, I think we see a girl who very often tries to use her semblance as a way of ‘escaping’ a painful reality. At first, this took the form of Trivia using her semblance quite understandably as a means of escaping the control of her parents. But by the end of the book, we see it used in a more unsettling manner.

At the end of Roman Holiday, after fulling assuming her new persona and more or less orchestrating the deaths of her parents by blowing up for childhood home, Neo basically writes off any guilt or trauma she might feel from this by simply deciding that Trivia ‘died’ in that explosion too.

And we see this trend continue in Volumes 6, 7 and 8. Rather than actually trying to cope with her grief over losing Roman, Neo just chases revenge on anyone she considered responsible for his death. But this just leads to her being easily manipulated by Cinder, a fact she is totally oblivious to right up to the point Cinder kicks her into the void.

I think Neo’s character and arc through the show represents the futility of trying to completely escape reality through fantasy. That no matter how perfectly you craft a fantasy, reality still comes crashing through the wall before too long. Whether it’s Neo’s perfectly crafted disguises being undone the moment she’s expected to actually SAY something, or her obsession with revenge blinding her to how easily Cinder was manipulating her.

It’s rather fitting, considering that Neo’s semblance is called ‘Overactive Imagination’.

[treeofcups]

askteamgrey replied to your post “Oh right, Yenk had a Vestige! That’s one for Keyleth!”

they circumvented an entire massive dungeon in the abyss and killed two birds with one stone thanks to the plan vex came up with.

It was a good fucking plan, damn. 

[annemarieyeretzian]

yeah... yeah. fucking terrifying. honestly. fucking terrifying.

like. we’re not saying birdie has never Done A Bad Thing or Made A Poor Decision in her life. but all it took was yu *gesturing vaguely* at birdie to convince bell’s hells that she was not only as bad as, but much worse than, A LITERAL AND ACTUAL EVIL FEY ASSASSIN SENT TO CAUSE CHAOS AND COMMIT MURDER??????????