#as this been done before? i saw a davekat one a while back but

[insufferablemod]

that one john vriska convo

[rabble-dabble]

fun fact: i used to actually like davekat. i don't know how, but i liked it because i thought that they were a cute decent pair. but then i really got weirded out at fans saying that karkat shouldn't be separated from dave and i was like damn, that sucks. but i didn't start to actually hate it until homestuck 2 which made both of them like some shitty yaoi trope instead of actually interesting characters. so you can see why i'm like that.

yeah i totally get it! i think that’s what a lot of non-davekats, or personally just me, find alongside other problems with homestuck^2 and the epilogues. it also started sucking when a majority of fans who either stood beside hs2 in the beginning or began liking hs2 only stuck around for davekat and insisted that davekat was like, the true holy LGBT mlm ship to have ever existed in homestuck ever was the best...

it got tiring?

i don’t wanna entirely blame the ‘fans’ here because 1, i get liking the whole hs^2 and epilogue shit entirely (great ideas! just poorly executed and shitty biased fan team to write it :///) and 2, you can like what you want! nobody is telling you otherwise!!

the almost-near hostility about it, though, is really what sucks. annie, you are even a part of the johnkat discord that saw this - we nearly got raided by people who shipped davekat just because we shipped johnkat and said we didn’t like davekat. it was completely ridiculous, and to be fair we might have been a little harsh in joking about not liking davekat, but the taunt of being raided so suddenly just because of our little community discord, and the only advertising of the discord being blatantly for johnkat - it feels like the john/june debacle of “this is canon” “no its not” being passed around back and forth. the epilogues and hs^2 are DUBIOUSLY canon, which means it's really up to the perspective reader to decide, but it feels like anything from those two mediums are run lethally against you as a fan if you don’t agree with the ‘canon’ that they have. 

and, well, I want to read a karkat or dave fic for once without it being god damn davekat all of the time. sure, ships are common to have in any fandom, but can you tell me how many times you can scroll in either of those tags on tumblr and find an equal, if not at LEAST more than one type of ship dynamic art that showcases something OTHER than davekat?

don’t get me wrong - this didn’t feel like a problem BEFORE the epilogues, and i’m guessing that’s because there wasn’t quite anything to ‘hype’ up fans to create content for a webcomic that hadn’t done updates for a while. but it absolutely shows its head NOW due to the epilogues and hs2, and it will continue for as long as the dying, wheezing contraption that is Homestuck^2 continues to postpone monthly updates, take fans money, and make the poor, poor souls that are hs2 enthusiasts believe that davekat (rosemary, trans people wishing for june, dirk redemption arc, omega kids content behind a paywall, and  hiveswap funders who’ve been here since 2014) will ever get the canon content they’re looking for.

[m39]

Beyond Canonical Extravaganza - YEAR 1: Chapter 12

You tried to say something for over an hour with no progress. All you did was screaming into your pillow, staring at the floor, cursing more than an armada of drunk sailors, and more. Before all of that, you had been staring at this picture for around twenty minutes:

You are now sitting. Your head is on your desk. All you can think of right now is to grab some Skooma right in front of you and-

NO!!!!!!

No! I will not succumb to another alcohol libation like that one time with the weaboo troll from Hiveswap: Friendsim! I still must rant about this one thing that will make you public enemy #1 in Homestuck’s fandom’s eyes if you say anything bad about it!

Because hey, if you couldn’t catch up with my clues in the past, let me scream it in your faces right now:

I DON’T FUCKING LIKE FLUSHED DAVEKAT!!!!!

gasps

Yeah! You fucking heard it! And I’m confident to say it since the worst cesspool from this site moved to Twatter after the NSFW purge of 2018!!

huffs & puffs

Okay… okay… Let me calm down in a minute.

sigh…

Let me explain myself. The truth is that there are worse, more nonsensical ships in Homestuck, canonical or not. Now that I can think about it, flushed Davekat is painfully mediocre as one person told me (I am not going to tell who for their own safety). Unfortunately, it is still my least favorite ship because this shit is everywhere! Almost every Homestuck artist I saw, drew this ship at least once. And most of the time, it was in the style of UwU Daveu-kun, Karkato-kun, kawaii desu UwU shit. If I had a gun pointed to my head to say which ship from Homestuck is the most overrated, it would be this one. I think I only liked two artworks with flushed Davekat and only because of the funny factor they generated. And you know what’s the saddest/funniest thing about all of it? I think that the Pale Davekat is really fucking good, to the point that I might consider it my BroTP.

I’m not saying that you shouldn’t like this or draw fanart of it etc. I’m just saying that I don’t like this ship. Nothing more to add.

Now since the rant is over (or at least the bigger part of it), let’s hypothetically say that I am a fan of flushed Davekat. Would I still like what happened in Homestuck^2?

…

No. I don’t think I would. You wanna know why? Because it’s not the Alpha timeline. It’s the Meat timeline, and characters from this timeline (and the Candy cesspool) are not canon. So why should I care about a ship that isn’t even from the Alpha timeline? Hmm? Exactly.

Is there at least something worth talking about? Well…

Umm…

Ergh…

This line from Dave was pretty good:

And uhm…

I…

There is…

There is nothing.

…

Seriously, there is nothing to say about this chapter. Half of it is just Dave having personal drama and Karkat telling him to pull himself together, while the other half is shit that I explained earlier. Just yesterday I was praising the quality of the previous chapter! What the fuck happened!? This chapter feels like fanservice stuffed filler to make Homestuck’s fanbase forgive this comic’s more controversial aspects.

I didn’t even mention how Davekat was partially forced upon by Doc Strider because he wanted his OTP to be true, just like Caliborn before him.

And now, I’m done with this. I’m done talking about it. Let’s hope it will be the last time I talk about it (for a long time at least). But hey, look at the bright side! It can’t get any worse from no-

You suddenly memorized that the last, two chapters of YEAR 1 are in the Candy timeline.

D:

You finally snapped.

a few hours of alcoholic euphoria later

OOOhhhhhhhhhhh yyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeee brother! Imma li-lizard kingi!! 8D

You suddenly hear a loud knocking. Even though you can barely stay on your legs, you manage to reach the door and open it. Behind it, there is a bunch of robe-dressed individuals. Some of them wear accessories based on Dave and Karkat. Others have their skin painted in gray.

Oki Doki towel aaaaaaaAAAAAAAsses. I’m gonna hic say it only once… Ge- belch Get back to that game y- you came from. I’m not interestit into Cabal POOOOOOOOORRRRRRN! YA GOT DAT?!?!

Cultist: Salvete haereticus reputandus.

Pardon me?

Cultist: Non vidistis quod de nostra religione dixisti.

Polish, please?

Cultist: Nos, autem membra non sustinebunt gentes, quæ non CabalCo DavidKattus darent, neve macularent.

Wait wha- OH!!! OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! You must be the fans of CatDaVe!!

Well excuuuuuuuse me, princess, but I’m n-n-nooooooOOOOOOOT a fan of this shippppppppFFFFFFFFFFF! Butt eeyyyyyyyy… We can sti-still accept that nobody is the same and… hic oh god… and not everyone will like a certain ship, rrriiight????

The cultists say nothing for a while. Suddenly they pull their weapons out of their robes.

Cultist: GEROXE BIBOX MALAX!!!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-

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[waitineedaname]

davekat childhood friends remeeting in college au please,,,, my heart (also congrats!! you deserve all the love i stan you sm)

you have all my uwus omg

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Going to college far away was fucking weird. Dave didn’t mind it, but it was just… well, there were pros and cons to his choice in higher education.

Pro: the school had a really great photography program.

Con: he was really far away from basically everyone he knew.

Pro: being so far away meant he didn’t have to worry about his Bro breathing down his neck anymore.

Con: no, seriously, like really far away.

Pro: his professors seemed decent so far and the dining hall was close to his dorm.

Con: oh god what the fuck was he thinking.

Okay, maybe he was overreacting a little bit. It wasn’t like he was completely cut off from everyone. John had agreed to Facetime him regularly, and Jade sent him tons of Snapchats from wherever far off place she was gallivanting through before she had to go back to school too. Rose was close enough that they could occasionally road trip and visit each other, but not close enough that it could be a regular thing. And hey, maybe he’ll really hit it off with his roommate or something, and everything will be okay.

He plopped himself down on the far side of his English classroom and pulled out his notebook. It was the first day for this particular class and it was only an hour long, so he doubted they’d be doing much else than going over the syllabus, but having his notebook out meant he could doodle and, subsequently, pay attention better. He was busy trying to draw a hyperrealistic eye over a ridiculously abstract SBaHJ mouth just to see what it would look like when the professor reached his name in roll call.

“Here.” He said, glancing in her direction before pulling out the syllabus so he could read over it while still doodling. Having a last name that started with S usually meant they were nearing the end of the attendance sheet by the time they got to him, so unless someone had a name that started with V or something, they were basically done.

“Karkat Vantas?” The professor said, and Dave’s head snapped up. Wait, what?

“Here,” came the raspy response near the door. Dave’s eyes nearly bugged out of his head. He’d thought maybe it was just a weird case of someone mysteriously having the same name as his childhood friend, but no shit, that was Karkat. He was like ten when he last saw him, so he looked a lot older and a hell of a lot more exhausted, but there was no mistaking him. Holy shit.

Dave barely paid attention the whole time the professor went over the syllabus, too busy trying to catch Karkat’s eye, but dammit, he was totally focused on what the professor was saying. He almost laughed at how little things had changed. Karkat was always the one hanging off their teachers’ every word, while Dave was the one with the undiagnosed ADHD trying to distract his best friend with whatever he had on hand.

He finally managed to tune back in to catch his professor saying something about how she wanted them to “really form a bond with your fellow classmates” and how they should “pair up with a classmate you don’t know so you have a buddy if you miss class or need help.” Dave damn near leaped out of his seat when she let them loose to socialize for the last ten minutes of class, and he made a bee-line to Karkat’s seat.

“Karkat.” He said, bouncing on his heels at Karkat’s table. Karkat looked up from where he’d been shoving his books back in his backpack and gave him a confused look.

“Uh, hi.” He said, giving him no sign that he recognized him. Dave panicked.

“It’s me!” Dave said, then immediately winced at his own vagueness. “Dave.”

“That… sure is your name.” Karkat was continuing to disoriented and more than a little annoyed.

“No, dude, Dave Strider. We went to elementary school together? You had those bigass glasses and I called them ugly on the playground because I was a stupid five year old with no sense of etiquette - not that I’m much better now, I guess, since this is probably the most awkward way I could’ve possibly reintroduced myself, but, shit, I’m getting off track. You threw mud at my shades and said now we both had ugly glasses, and then we ate lunch together like every day after that. Do-. Do you remember?” He faltered a little bit, worried this was an unfortunate case of mistaken identity. Karkat’s eyes widened cartoonishly as recognition passed across his face.

“Holy shit. Dave?!”

“Yeah, dude, the one and only.”

“Jesus fuck, you got tall.” Karkat commented, sitting back and looking him over.

“And you did not.” Dave teased, relaxed now that they were on the same page. He hopped up to sit to the side of Karkat’s desk. “How the fuck have you been, man? Where the hell did you even move to? It was like you disappeared off the face of the earth.”

“Basically.” Karkat snorted. “My dad got a job transfer out of fucking nowhere that summer and the whole family had to move. It sucked having to start all over in sixth goddamn grade, but whatever. I’m sure you weren’t too distraught at my absence since you had John.” Karkat added, gently shoving at his leg in a halfhearted attempt to get him off his desk.

“I mean yeah, John and I got hella tight after that, but it sucked losing my oldest friend.” Dave shrugged. Karkat gave him a skeptical look.

“You cannot be referring to me.”

“No, I’m referring to some other idiot I started hanging around when I could barely walk. Yeah, I’m referring to you, dipshit. We were like soul brothers, man. Joined at the goddamn hip. Two peas in one dumbass pod pretending to slay dragons on the playground. Or aliens. Or that one time your furry sister started reading those Warriors books and she convinced us to roleplay cats. How’s she doing, by the way?”

“Nepeta’s fine.” Karkat said, amused. “What, are you looking for someone to help you break out of your repressed furry state? Do you want me to draw you a fucking fursona?” He patted Dave’s knee and put on a condescending tone. “It’s okay, bro, I won’t judge.”

“I mean, are you offerin’? What’re your commission rates?” The look Karkat gave him was scathing. “Nah, I’m kidding. If I want furry art, I can just hit up Jade. What I am wondering is if you wanna maybe grab something to eat?” Dave asked, faux casual. “I dunno if you’ve hit up that burger place by the university union, but they’re not half bad, and their fries fucking kick ass. Like seriously, orgasmic level shit. I’d fucking live off of those fries if I could. I mean, I probably could eat nothing but overly seasoned fries until the day I die, but that date would be way sooner than it should be because I’ll have destroyed my digestive tract with salt. But, you know, you gotta make sacrifices for what you love, and I’m telling you, I really do love those fries.”

“Jesus christ, you really haven’t changed.” Karkat rolled his eyes. “Here I was hoping - no, praying that puberty might have forced you to finally grow a single brain cell, but I guess I should be used to my dreams being dashed and splattered to oblivion like someone took the most fragile, paper thin egg thrown against a brick wall. Oh, you see that tiny little dribble of yolk sliding down the most microscopic sliver of an eggshell? That’s the last of my hope for humanity leaking away because you’re still a goddamn imbecile.”

“Yeah, well, puberty finally helped you grow a jawline. Shit could cut diamonds. Uh,” Dave panicked, “Not that I’m checking out your jaw or anything. Fuck, that wasn’t even a good come back, goddammit-”

Karkat’s simultaneously exasperated and fond made his heart flutter just the tiniest bit. “Just take me to the fucking burger place, shitbrain.”

“Yeah, okay.”

Maybe he wouldn’t be too lonely after all.

[jolly-loui-s]

The irony of roleplaying as a wizard chapter 3 by Jolly Loui S

Fandom: Homestuck

Pairing: Davekat Dave x Karkat

words (chapters 3/?): 5??? words (was too lazy to count)

If you liked this work please drop a kudo on archiveofourown in the link below:

https://archiveofourown.org/works/16975734/chapters/53320204#workskin

link to chapter 2:

https://jolly-loui-s.tumblr.com/post/190382520016/the-irony-of-roleplaying-as-a-wizard-chapter-2-by

*Trigger warning, this shit is heavy* (you can skip to the end notes for a summary if you don't want to read it because it contains mention of child abuse and character dead)

Karkat stop basking in the presence of Jegus and be Dave=>

You are Dave, but not Dave in this moment. Instead you are Dave that takes place in another plane of existence. This Dave was lying on his bed. Sweat claimed his forehead as any other day because of the god unforgiven Texas heat. It was Summer and no matter how many times you tried the air conditioning remained broken. Because every time you think you finally cracked the code of basic mechanics a shadowy figure appears and the whole thing falls apart again. So, you just stopped trying. Instead you accepted your doom of being a human popsicle ad just met away all over your own bed. Because according to bro if you wanted to be cool that included the temperature. Striders didn’t become sweaty teenage boys and didn’t complain about such mundane thing as heat thus not needing air conditioning. Dave was just glad after the second time he fixed the air-condition and got the hint that bro was behind it that the guy hadn’t decide to knock sense in him again about how one must act to be a cool kid. After a while of just lying there Dave decided that he had to get up eventually. Not that bro was going to ask him about his whereabouts or anything because usually it was normal for Dave to never leave his room, but it was because he was getting hungry and the stash of his usual Doritos and AJ in the bottom of his closet was running low. And when Dave had managed to finally sneak into the bathroom the day before on his way there, he had witnessed the coffee table overflowing with newly bought and untouched snacks. Not just like one or three bags of chips but literally just a table full of them. So, he might as well try to hoard a few of them.

Dave walked towards his door carful not to make any sound as he equipped his sword. Turning the knob without making any sound and opening the door incase bro would hear him leaving his room because he wasn’t about to just get caught. In the distance Dave could hear the awful game music playing of tony Hawks title screen. Which meant that bro wasn’t in the living room because if he was, he would be playing games all day because the living room really wasn’t ever being used as anything else than a room where you would play games and eat snacks. Which might make it the only normal thing about the whole house if you ignored the disturbing amount of smuppets loitering around the room that is.

Right foot in front of the left Dave sneaked across the hallway and slowly sneaked a peak around the corner. Luckily the coffee table was still filled with unopened snacks. In way Dave should have know it to be odd. There had been multiple times before where there were still abandoned chips bags left on the table, but never had there been so many before just laying around ready for the taking.

Having decided that the coast was clear Dave walked over to the table and he didn’t stop himself from eyeing every possible hiding place and multiple cameras in the room. With utter caution Dave grabbed as many bags as he could and cringed at the loud noises the bags made when he picked them up. That was when he realized his mistake. A familiar noise of a zooming camera lens sounded from gods know where and Dave knew that he had been caught. Caught like an animal in a trap, because that was what he was. Of course, the big pile of bag had been to good to be true because it had all been a trap. It was like bro had known the exact moment when Dave had been running low on food and had granted him a very timely opportunity to get more. Dave cursed himself internally for falling for such a stupid thing and dropped everything he was holding to ready his sword and abscond the fuck out the living room.

For whatever god of luck what might have been on his side this day Dave managed to reach his room in time. In time for what? Because there had been nothing chasing behind him as the only noise in the room had been Dave and the tony hawk soundtrack playing in the background. No clashes of shitty anime swords or an angry bro behind him. Did Dave imagine it all. Was it just his paranoia playing a trick on him? Luckily before Dave would get to trying to question his sanity his previous question was quickly answered by a note sliding under his door. The note itself only consisted of one word, but Dave already knew what it said before even reading it “roof”. Dave’s whole body grew stiff as he saw it. He was scared but he didn’t show it, even admitting he was scared was something he wasn’t allowed to do. Because miraculously bro always found out when Dave did something wrong. And when Dave did do something wrong that note would appear. So instead Dave tightened his grip on his word and walked through the apartment and up towards the roof.

“Hello little man” You hated it, hated it more than anything in the world. There he was, Bro strider in all his glory sword in hand resting over his shoulder as he waited for your arrival.

“sup” Dave said trying not to let his fear show in his voice as he readied his sword as calmly as he could while not losing his cool.

“You know what you did wrong didn’t you” Bro asked, and you literally felt like you just shit yourself because ow god you were scared! Bro was looking at you with a piercing glance. You couldn’t see his eyes because of his triangular anime glasses, but you could feel it. That piercing hostility and murderous intent every time when you were about to get your ass beat.

“You didn’t listen to me” Bro continued taking one step forward. “You ungrateful brat, after everything I have done for you” bro took another step and you cursed at yourself internally when you took one step backwards in response. “You fucking betrayed my trust little man” bro was angry, he was angrier than his usual angry. Something was off. Bro wouldn’t get this angry just or Dave falling to one of his traps. Most of the time she would just silently get his ass beaten up bro wouldn’t normally be this vocal. And before you knew it, he was right in front of you. On impulse you closed your eyes, an honest beginner mistake really. You waited for a bit, but the blow never came. After a few seconds you finally dared to open your eyes and lowered your sword at the sight in front of you.

“Karkat” you said the name of the boy in front of you. It felt wrong to see him there. Amongst the darkest parts of your memories. Karkat was one of the few good things about your live and seeing the good standing next to the bad just felt like so many levels of wrong to your eyes. You knew what bro meant now, why he was so angry at you. Because you had gotten close to Karkat, too close. Like on one of those of Karkat’s romcoms cliché kind of close and bro was punishing you for it. You weren’t allowed to start feeling that way. The way you realized you had started feeling about Karkat. So, this was your punishment. Just when you where about to call out his name again you discovered that you were unable to open you mouth. No words would come out and you were frozen where you stood. Your body was unable to follow your commands leaving you stuck and only able to watch as a loud ringing echoed trough your ears. Watch as bro lifted up Karkat by the neck chocking him as he struggled for breath while calling out your name like it was all your fault that he was about to get killed. You wanted to, you really wanted to save him more than anything even if it meant disobeying you brother, but you couldn’t. Not because you physically couldn’t, but because of bro's consisted echoing voice in you head telling you what to do for you whole god dam live. You watched Karkat about to reach his final breaths when in swift movement bro finally let go and Karkat fell. Bro had dropped him, not to the floor but over the railing of the roof. Leaving Karkat’s body to free fall to his dead the stone-cold pavement below. That was also the moment when you realized that the loud ringing you had been hearing the whole time had been your own screaming. And when you woke up in the dead of the night the screaming was gone instead you were filled with a dreaded emptiness inside of you as if you were about to cry, but no matter how bad you wanted to cry you couldn’t because that was how empty you were feeling. It was a nightmare a bad dream. And you realized how much it scared you. It made you realize how much you had started caring about Karkat. And if anything, bad was ever to happened to him... You care about him more than anything. Because he was the best thing to ever happen to you. He understands you and is you best friend, and you know you can tell him anything even if you don’t. And after that realization you try to go back to sleep as an empty void continues to eat up your hart. Because you aren’t allowed to love him.

Notes:

So Summary: Dave had a bad dream about bro. Bro killed Karkat because dave was startig to fall in love with Karkat and bascicly Bro's abuse inprinted the thought in Dave's brain that he isn't allowed to fall in love with boy's. So he hides it all away because he isn't allowed to.

[july-angel]

Candy > Meat part 1

Candy > Meat

(I’m avoiding my homework. So I’m going to type my thoughts out here instead.)

So I read candy before meat and also, while I think both of them are great (don’t hate please) I think it really changed how I read meat.

In candy we saw 1. Dirk kill himself, 2. John’s sanity waste away, 3. John pining after Terezi, 4. Karkat leave Dave, because Dave hooks up with Jade 5. Jake get trapped in an abusive marriage with Jane 6. A shitty gamzee redemption arc, 7. Jane turn into a fascist and more large complaints I’m not mentioning here. 

However, I wanted to address some of these things in part one regarding how I read it.

It was hard to read and super fucked up really. I chose candy on accident, because I thought I would like meat more. And you know, save the best for last and all that. But honestly, A lot of what I loved of meat, was because of Candy. 

So the first thing I want to address is DaveKat. Some people are saying that they are disappointed with DaveKat in meat and I think that it’s because of how I read it in Candy that made me love how it happened. In Candy, Karkat leaves Dave, and Dave ends up marrying Jade and regretting it. He loves Jade, but not the way she wants him to and he loves Karkat, but couldn’t go through with the decision to chase after him. And he REGRETS. At the end, when he’s speaking to Obama (wtf.) he breaks down, he admits to himself everything that has happened. That he misses and loves Karkat, that he hurt and is still hurting Jade. When I read meat after this, I saw Dave finally, finally, after all of the pining and the heart break, get to be with the boy he loved. There was even someone rooting with me for it. Dirk. But we’ll get to that later. That being said, Dirk didn’t really put a damper on it for me, because after everything I saw in Candy, very little could put a damper on something so heart warming. 

Okay, the second thing is a little harder to explain. But basically I went through the existential crisis with John. John is depressing, but I liked it, because it really made me think about my own depression and how it ties to whether or not the things in my life matter. 

John has basically just got back from what will arguable be the biggest thing he ever thinks he’s going to do, since, well, he decides, fuck lord english. And it doesn’t sit right with him. How could it? He spent a good portion formative teen years, on some larger plan where he has to try beat a universe creating game and stop an evil guy and save the future. His identity is built on something bigger than him. But life for adult john, just like life for most of us, isn’t built on some universe breaking game. It’s about the little things like settling down, or running for president, or starting a rebellion, or having kids, or trying to fill that void deep inside of you, you know, the kind of drama that’s pointless in comparison. On top of that, it’s hard for anyone else to understand, and he doesn’t even try to talk to most people about it. In a sense I imagine this is probably how Dirk felt when he realized he’d lost relevance. You can definitely see Terezi also feels it. However, not opening up to people about his feelings, not connecting to others, that leaves him thinking that no one is real. To top it off, people change, and have changed since he spent years being a recluse. He’s grown distant and feels like he doesn’t understand the people around him anymore. The only person he understands is Terezi, but that’s because she’s the only person who’s emotionally open with him. However, by the end of Candy, he kind of, starts to change. He opens up to Roxy, and he’s about to go talk to his son. He’s finally making progress. He’s moving on this emotional point in the beginning where he seems to be almost stuck. For me, it’s beautiful, because it reaffirms something I feel about life, the people in life are what matters. People become more real one he can actually connect with them. People are what matters.  

I actually appreciated John’s character arc less in Meat, but also the scene he has with Terezi in the car, that’s the only scene in all the epilogue that almost left me crying. And it wouldn’t have if I hadn’t read Candy first. Their relationship would have felt less significant, if I didn’t know how lonely John had been in Candy and I didn’t know how badly Terezi wanted Vriska. Terezi spent all of the Candy epilogue looking for her, to the point of being willing to die. And to go back to the Meat Cannon, for John, speaks volumes. I think if I had read meat first, it would still have been poignant, but not to the extent that it would have been. Because John was so busy fighting setting off to perform his duty, that he never would have addressed that emotional hole he had. I think that his emotional break never really gets addressed and it only gets buried by the work that needs to be done. 

Moving on to another character we see with unaddressed mental health issues. In candy we saw Dirk kill himself. I don’t think anyone wants to see a character, that they love and care about, off themselves and to be reading that through his mind and having insight as to what he is going through... Well that hit hard. Meat Dirk, fights for relevance. He fights for what he wants, even if what he wants is terrible. Kill yourself or become a terrible person, I do acknowledge are bad options. However, until the epilogues are done, I refuse to believe that those are the options we actually picked from. Life is fluid, and things change, and people change. I’m not doing this explanation justice, so I’m going to link to a person who explained this shit better than me, but! What I want to say is depending on your life experience people can change for the worse, but they can also change again for the better. While Dirk is alive, he can change too. 

I was going to say something on Jane and Jake, but uh... I mean they were both interesting in meat and candy, but their respective meat and candy counter parts don’t really add anything to each other. They deserve their own kind of analysis, but I don’t think I’m going to get into it. Today anyways. Pip d, who I linked to down below basically summed up my feelings on it though, better than I could have said it. 

So in short what I’m trying to say, is that going from getting the heart in my chest ripped out of me, and watching almost all of the characters take passive roles in their own emotional lives, got me fucked up. 

Okay, in part 2 I’m going to address redemption and Gamzee and how I see it in relation to my bro Dirk. It could probably go in here too, but I think it’s very important, so i’m going to give it to part too. In that, I will also talk about Rose and Kanaya, and will also talk about the parts that I did not like, because while I love this to little bits and pieces, there are things that I do take issue with. 

https://twitter.com/pipd_/status/1120546426361085952

[karens-vest]

first & last // davekat soulmate au angst

first of all, all the words are lowercase i'm sorry i don't usually do that in fics but i wrote this a while back & decided to post it here. also, the spaces between paragraphs are pretty small because i ran out of lines & had to delete them. also like everyone is ooc Oops Sorry.

angsty af

dave strider was sitting impatiently at his desk, watching the clock. it was the last day of school and he was determined to find his soulmate. all of his friends already have, they talk about all sorts of colours. jade talks about an olive green, john talks about a light pink, rose a jade, and dave talks about black and white. the same black and white he's seen his whole life. even his brother has a soulmate; some dude named jake english.

the bell rang, interrupting his thoughts. taking his time, he placed his things in his bag. dave wanted to be the last one out so he could leave easily instead of being trampled by everyone. he slung his bag over his shoulder and exited the room, making his way through the hallways and out the door. he texted his brother that he wouldn't be home for a while.

"hey dave!" he turned to see john, his best bro.

"'sup, egbert." he did one of those coolkid head nods.

"i'm about to go see roxy, where are you going?" john was referring to his soulmate; roxy lalonde, rose's cousin.

"just on an adventure through the depths of the world to find my soulmate. it'll be dangerous, but worth it." he said it ironically, but if it took searching the world to find his soulmate he'd do it.

"haha, good luck with that, dave!" john saw roxy waving at him and his smile grew. "listen, i have to go, hope you find your soulmate!" with that, john ran towards his girlfriend. they hugged and did some couple shit before leaving together.

dave thought about going to find jade, before remembering it was her date night with nepeta. rose was in a school club so that was out too. he knew this was his 'mission' but he wanted some help.

dave decided to just walk around a bit, he didn't know shit about his soulmate and where they'd be but he has to try and look. starbucks first? sure, why not. the blond walked through town to a nearby starbucks when he realised something. what if his soulmate doesn't even live there? what of he lives on the other side of the world? what if they never meet?

"hello, david." dave turned to see rose's girlfriend, kanaya. "i was hoping to see you here, there's someone i'd like for you to meet."

"alright, who?" kanaya motioned for him to follow her, and he was led to a jade green car not far from where they were. the troll opened a door and started talking to someone inside.

"i already told you i don't want to go to the fucking mall," a short troll was dragged out of the car by kanaya, and the jade blood walked to the other side of the car and got inside, driving away. the boy that was left was yelling curses even though he knew kanaya couldn't hear.

dave raised an eyebrow, was this the dude she wanted him to meet? his breath caught in his throat when the boy turned, and he could tell the same thing was happening to the other. dave's world was brightened, he saw a strangely powerful looking colour in the boys' eyes. a colour. well, this was new.

"what the fuck are you staring at?" dave felt his heart shatter into pieces, his world break around him. no, this couldn't be happening. he's heard of instances like this when someone didn't return the feelings. how could this be happening?

dave shook his head, "nothing." he fought the word passed the lump in his throat and looked away. oh he couldn't wait to tell dirk he finally found the person he was supposed to spend forever with, but he didn't return the feelings. perfect.

the male rolled his eyes, "yeah, whatever. who the fuck even are you anyways?"

"dave strider." he could feel tears coming, and he squeezed his eyes shut. thank god his shades hide his eyes. "and you?"

"karkat vantas." he was annoyed. it was clear. "just so you know, i'm only talking to you because kanaya thought i should. i have no idea why she would even suggest it since so far this is most possibly the stupidest encounter i've had all year."

the words stung dave's heart, but he kept a stoic face. "yeah, whatever."

(-(-(

dave and karkat had become friendenemies after that. they fought a lot, but had a friendship going. dave had to hide his feelings, which surprisingly wasn't easy even though he's a strider. everything karkat did seemed to make him smile. even his insults he found hilariously adorable. nobody knew about how he truly felt, except dirk who could tell when dave was lying about not meeting his soulmate.

"your music sucks." dave was showing karkat some of the songs he's written. dave didn't tell karkat they were written for him.

"they're ironic, dude, you wouldn't understand." karkat rolled his eyes when he said that, secretly he enjoyed the music.

(-(-(

"you have to tell him, dave." rose had found out about dave's crush on karkat using her therapist powers.

"i can't, rose." he shook his head, a few tears threataning to spill from his eyes. sometimes thinking about how he's destined to love karkat but karkat's destined to love someone else really got him down. bro wasn't the best helper so he decided it was good that rose knew. "it'll totally ruin our friendship if i do, and i really don't wanna fuck this up."

"you won't, it'll be fine. trust me, dave." rose put a hand on dave's shoulder, before her phone went off. the screen showed a message. it was kanaya. she turned to dave who nodded.

"you can go, be with your soulmate." he gave a half hearted smile which rose mirrored before she left. when he was sure she was gone he layed down on has bed, turning on his side. he threw his glasses to the other side of the room and let it all out. all the tears he had held in for the past two years him and karkat had been friends. he was breaking the 'strider code' but he didn't care. the code was bullshit to him. right now, he just needed to be himself. he needed to just cry it out, like a normal person.

(-(-(

"hey, karkat?" dave turned to his friend who was currently typing away at his computer.

"what, strider?" he seemed to be failing at coding something.

"what do you do if you think you've met your soulmate, but aren't really sure?" if dave had been paying attention he would've noticed karkat's fingers halt for a second before returning, this time hitting the keys much rougher.

"how the fuck should i know? not like i've ever met my soulmate." it seemed as though he was glaring at the screen, anger practically radiating off him.

"yeah you're right, it was a dumb question." dave went back to reading on his phone. it was silent other than the sound of computer keys until karkat started coughing. a lot. dave looked worriedly at his friend, hesitantly rubbing his back. "you okay?" he asked when karkat was done.

"uh, yeah, i'm fine." if dave had looked over, he would've noticed blood on karkat's sleeve. but he simply went back to reading on his phone after he was totally sure karkat was alright.

(-(-(

"we haven't been hanging out much, anytime i try talking to him he always cuts the conversation short," dave was pacing around his room while rose was listening to him. "i think he's mad at me or something."

"does he have any reason to be?" rose raised an eyebrow, karkat had never actually been mad at dave. just fake mad.

"he's karkat. doesn't really need a reason." dave sighed and sat down next to rose. "i just hope our friendship hasn't been ruined. i hope it wasn't my fault."

"if you don't know what you did, you probably didn't do anything." rose said as dave fell back on his bed.

"nobody really ever knows what they did in situations like this." his arms were over his face and he sighed. "be honest rose, do you think he's ignoring me because my stupid ass did something and i have no idea what?"

"i don't believe so, but i wouldn't know. i haven't seen your conversations." she looked at him, "but i doubt it. what you said about karkat not needing a reason isn't exactly true though.

"sure it may seem like he gets mad for no reason but i think he's just scared." she smiled a little, "kind of like you are."

he sat up instantly, "i'm not scared!"

rose raised an eyebrow, her smile teasing.

dave sighed, "yeah, i guess i am kind of scared. but just because i know karkat doesn't share my feelings."

"you said he looked surprised when he first saw you," she began. "so how do you know he wasn't surprised due to the fact he saw colour for the first time."

dave shrugged, "i dunno, but he also seemed really annoyed i was staring at him. that kind of made me think he didn't feel the same way, he would've understood." he looked down at his hands. "he hasn't showed any affection towards me, even though we've been friends for a while. nothing even platonic."

"that could be because he's scared of being in a relationship, even one he's destined to be in." she thought aloud, and dave thought for a second it could be true before shaking his head.

"no. that can't be it." dave couldn't think of any reason why karkat wouldn't have told dave he saw colour.

"maybe this is all in your head." rose was getting a little impatient, and tried not to show it. "maybe you're thinking too much into this and really he is your soulmate."

"he would've told me. i know he would've." dave looked at rose seriously.

"maybe you should talk with jade and nepeta on the matter," she suggested. "they seem to know about romance."

dave nodded, "i'll do that."

him and rose exited the room and then the house, going their seperate ways.

(-(-(

"he's been ignoring me, i don't know what to do." dave sat in the living room of jade and nepeta's house, retelling the story he had told rose.

"well karkitty can be somewhat aloof at times, but i don't know why he would completely ignore someone." nepeta furrowed her eyebrows in thought, which jade silently thought was adorable but didn't mention.

"maybe he's sick?" jade threw out an idea and dave facepalmed after a moment.

"god i'm an idiot, i think he is." he looked back up at nepeta. "what are troll sicknesses like?"

"usually very painful," she frowned and jade reasurringly squeezed her hand, as if saying if nepeta ever got sick she'd be there for her. "but i don't think kar-" she cut herself off with a gasp, her eyes widening.

"what? what is it?" dave's eyes had also widened under his glasses, he was worried about karkat. very worried.

"he's a lowblood." olive tears were gathering at the corners of her eyes. "they don't live very long, and since he's a mutant i guess that gives him even less time."

dave quietly stood up without thinking and ran out the door, through the town, and back to his house. his feet carried him to his room where he collapsed on the floor. his glasses were off and his head was in his hands, loud sobs escaping him and tears spilling through his fingers. this couldn't be happening. his love, his soulmate, his precious crab was going to die without knowing dave's true feelings. he didn't know what to do. after a moment of just loud crying, he reached out to his phone and dialed numbers.

"he-"

"rose he's dying he's dying and there's nothing i can do i'll never get to be with him i'll never get to hold him i'll never get to tell him how much i love him." his sobs rang through the phone, kanaya heard what was going on and had a look of shock on her face. her moirail, her precious moirail was going to die.

"i'll be right over."

(-(-(

dave, rose, kanaya, sollux, gamzee, and terezi were all standing inside the hospital room which karkat was assigned. although, dave wasn't exactly standing. it was more him on the floor sobbing, head in his hands and glasses askew. nobody knew what to do. nobody had seen dave like this.

the troll in the bed opened his eyes slowly, he knew he didn't have much longer. "dave," his hoarse voice rang through the room. the blond looked up, his red eyes glossed with tears not caring that everyone there could see his eye colour. "dave."

dave stood and walked to karkat's bed, he was crying too. despite what he was telling himself, the blond took karkat's hand in his. "karkat.. i'm so sorry. i'm sorry i didn't know, i should've been there."

karkag shook his head weakly, "no dumbass it's me who should be sorry." dave was confused. "i should've told you this before it was too late, it doesn't mean much now, but you're my soulmate. i saw colour that day we met."

dave felt his whole world crash down, just like that day. more tears were pouring out of his eyes.

"i'm sorry, because of me we could never be together." karkat began to cry as well, red tears joining clear on the bed.

"we can be together now." dave lowered his head, and gave a sad smile. "be my boyfriend? even if it isn't for long."

karkat nodded, "yes dave."

dave captured karkat's lips in a kiss, which would be their first and last. "i love you karkat. i always will, even when you're gone."

"i love you too, dave. i always will, even when i'm gone."

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[margoslxix]

OKAY so I was tagged by @autisticmob and I think these things are fun so here we go!

Rules: Choose any three fandoms (in any order), answer the questions and tag 10 people you want to get to know better.

So, obviously I gotta pick:

1. Homestuck

and 

2. New Albion

But I legitimately don’t know what third fandom to pick. I’m going to go with.......

3. Magic the Gathering

Because, I don’t know, I like it and I don’t get enough chances to talk about these characters.

First Character You Loved:

1. “First” is tricky, because I loved most of the characters pretty right away. I guess Calliope? Not that I hadn’t loved anyone before Act 6 or anything, I just remember liking her right away after meeting her, and also thinking she was my favorite character for a while.

2. Again, this is a hard one. Annabel is probably the obvious answer, but it’s true. I think she’s everyone’s first favorite, though. Her songs are just so good, plus she’s the first character you really get to know.

3. Hmmm. Liliana? I loved her aesthetic right away, for sure. I mean, be honest, how can you not at LEAST think she’s pretty goddamn cool.

The Character You Never Expected to Love So Much:

1. Caliborn, full stop (heheh). He’s my son and I would die for him. My very, very first initial impression of him was “god, what a douchebag.” But he’s MY douchebag now and tbh I relate to him a lot. He’s got a lot of problems, he’s definitely not an easy person to like. But I think he has so much narrative potential, and even most of his awful qualities (mostly the misogyny, let’s be honest) could honestly probably be dealt with if he was actually properly socialized. Which I’m still not 100% sure isn’t canonically possible. Too bad the comic’s mcfucking over.

2. Lloyd Allen. He definitely comes across as a dick, but he’s got a lot of hidden depth. He’s just such a good guy? Like, once you learn the lengths that he went to and the danger he put himself in, just for the chance to make his boyfriend happy again, I just... I can’t, I’m getting very emotional. I love Lloyd Allen, okay?

3. Gideon MOTHERFUCKING Jura. I hate Lawful Good, usually. I think it’s often just an excuse for characters to be stupid as hell, rigid, and incapable of understanding moral ambiguity. But honestly, Gideon is one of the best Lawful Good characters I’ve ever seen. He is legitimately heroic, and the fact that he’s not 100% rigid in his alignment, choosing Good over Law every time, is honestly cool. I just... he’s a character type and trope that I usually can’t stand, but done very well, and that’s impressive enough that I honestly love him.

The Character You Relate To Most:

1. If you’ve followed me for any length of time, you already know it’s Caliborn. He’s stubborn, determined, unyielding... and I’ll admit, I’m much the same. I think I approach problems in a similar way to him, and get confused/annoyed by similar, arbitrary things. Also, he’s absolutely autistic, and I’ll fight anyone who says he isn’t. 

2. Uncle Raven, aka David Adams. I mean, there are a lot of things about him that I can’t relate to. A lot. Like being extremely attractive, for one thing. But he is Aesthetic Goals. He’s a sad carnival man, and I’m a sad man who loves carnivals. He also copes with loneliness and abandonment about as well as I do, which is to say, not very well at all. Also the whole, “sad businessman who lost his mind and gained superpowers” thing is somehow also relatable. Now where the fuck are my reality-bending powers?

3. Vraska, probably. Gods, I fucking love Vraska. If Gideon hadn’t been my answer for the last one, it would have been her. The Ixalan story really hit me hard, and I love her a lot. Just, she’s been through a lot of shit and it’s made her hard and cruel, but who she is around Jace, now, with her memories intact, just... aaa, fuck, I love Vraska. I really hope they beat up Nicol Bolas soon. Fuck that guy.

The Character You’d Slap:

1. Cronus, probably. He just needs to stop. Not stop anything in particular, just stop in general. And the thing is, I don’t even completely hate him. I just hate a lot of his bullshit. Hussie once called him “the worst character in Homestuck,” and honestly, I can see it.

2. Okay, yeah, the “correct” answer here is probably Edgar or Sarah. But I’m still gonna go with Connor. I just, I don’t know, I have this weird, irrational hatred for Connor. I find him incredibly irritating. Almost every problem he’s ever had has been his own damn fault, and it’s obnoxious hearing him cry about it. I mean, “Connor” is still a gorgeous song and all, but as a character, I just wanna tell him to suck it the hell up.

3. Nicol Bolas? I mean, he deserves way more than a slap. But it seems like he’s literally behind every bad thing that happens lately and he needs to knock it the fuck off. Amonkhet was particularly like.... DUDE, not cool. You can’t just turn an entire world into a zombie factory, what the FUCK is wrong with you? I hate this fucking dragon, and this is coming from a guy who loves dragons, and also villains.

 Three Favorite Characters (In Order of Preference):

1. Caliborn, Calliope, Dirk

2. Raven, Lloyd, Han Mi

3. Vraska, Jace, Chandra (this list subject to change at literally any time)

A Character You Liked At First, But Don’t Anymore:

1. Okay, so this is going to sound incredibly harsh, so let me preface it with, it’s not that I DON’T like him, it’s just that he annoys and vexes me, and I’m sick of seeing him, and ALSO that I used to like him more than I currently do. In FACT, I do sometimes have feelings about him that I would normally have mostly for characters I like more, so it’s not that I hate him, okay? But it’s Jake English. Fucking... he’s so goddamn stupid and self-absorbed. And yeah, I get that it wasn’t his fault. I get that he’s been through some serious shit that no one should have to go through. Yeah, okay, just like every other character in this comic. But like, come on dude. But it’s less about him, I think, and more about how the fandom treats him. He’s not just an accessory for Dirk, for one thing (and I’m sorry, you can NOT convince me that they get back together in the end, that’s stupid, they had literally no chemistry whatsoever). And anyway, I’ve ranted way, way longer than I need to. But I have to set the record straight. I don’t HATE Jake English, I just think he’s dumb as a bag of teeth and I’m sick of seeing his face.

2. I’m actually having a hard time thinking of anyone specific. The more I learn about most characters, the more I like them. Seriously, I’m trying to think of a character that I like even a little bit less than my first impression of them. Maybe Connor? But I wasn’t really super crazy about him from the beginning, so I feel like that doesn’t count. I guess I’m going to have to go with Tristan from A Pirate’s Tale (even though that doesn’t technically count as New Albion but FUCK IT, I’m counting it) because like, “Ride the Hemp” is my jam and an awesome song, but when you actually read the script, he’s just kind of a dick. So yeah, I guess that’s it.

3. Again, there’s no one in particular. I think both Liliana and Nissa fall under “I used to love them a lot, but now I’m feeling a bit more ambiguous about them”--Liliana because DAMN getting a look at how she’s treated Jace all this time from Vraska’s perspective was some SHIT, and Nissa because I don’t particularly approve of her leaving the Gatewatch after all that shit about realizing that Chandra was her friend and all. I don’t know. I don’t hate either of them. Heck, I don’t even dislike either of them. But that’s one thing that’s cool about the constantly shifting perspective in the Magic stories. I just know I’m going to see something from their perspectives that changes everything before too long. Hell, Dominaria is already giving me a lot of Liliana feels.

A Character You Did Not Like At First, But Do Now:

1. See, I actually kind of liked everyone in Homestuck right away. And I’m not even counting Caliborn here, because I never really disliked him, I just never expected him to be my favorite character. I guess maybe Eridan? It’s not even that I particularly like him that much now, I just don’t dislike him as strongly as I did at first. I’m not even sure why. I think that one fansong (”Ugly Story”) kind of increased my affection for him. But he’s still not even in my top 20, so I don’t know.

2. Rachael. I’m not going to lie, the first time I listened to The New Albion Guide to Analogue Consciousness, I thought she was obnoxious. I mean she did lowkey try to get herself killed while singing a big, dramatic song for the sole reason that this guy that she was convinced was her destined love match turned out to be gay. That’s some fuckshit, right there. But the more I listened and the more I thought about her... with all the shit she’s been through, it makes sense. And it’s not like her assumption was totally irrational. Plus, Connor told her that that was the case because Connor’s a fucking idiot. So I’m blaming him for this one. So yeah, Rachael’s actually pretty cool. Plus “The Show No One Saw” is a bop.

3. Hmmmmmmm, I don’t know. I’m honestly drawing a blank. Vraska, maybe? It’s not really that I didn’t like her, but I’ll admit, I kinda was late to the party with a lot of Magic stuff. So I was just like “Wait, isn’t she just that gorgon assassin from Ravnica?” but then Ixalan happened, and she’s my daughter now. So there’s that.

Three OTPs:

1. ....Do I even have to say it? Dirkborn is my real, true OTP. I’m utter trash for this ship. Their whole dynamic is so much fun, and honestly, these boys could be extremely good for each other. Plus, they actually have canon chemistry, so there’s that. Davekat is a real close second. It’s one I actually wasn’t 100% sold on when I first saw it, but now I can’t imagine the comic without it. I’m so happy that it’s canon. I guess third would be Roxy/Calliope, which is funny, since I really didn’t used to like that ship very much. But I’ve come around on it, it’s honestly adorable.

2. Lloydven (Lloyd/Raven) is the obvious one here. I mean, I feel like it’s lowkey the most common OTP in the fandom. But like, damn. I honestly almost cried reading The Ballad of Lloyd Allen. They’re just so in love. Second is probably Leedrian (Lee/Adrian), just because. Honestly, it’s not even that deep fam, I just think they’re cute and also I love Adrian in general. HelMi (Helen/Han Mi) is a very, very close third, if not second. Like if you cry every time. Seriously, just.... FUCK.

3. Vraska/Jace. They had BETTER get that fucking date on Ravnica! If they don’t I will scream! That’s the best ship Magic has right now, I’m sorry, that’s just how it is. Now, I will say, I’m at a bit of a loss here. I used to ship the Gatewatch as an OT5 (Gideon/Jace/Liliana/Chandra/Nissa) but I feel like that���s been complicated by a lot of other feelings I have about individual members, so I’m not sure I really ship it anymore, leaving me kind of adrift. Honestly, though? Saheeli/Huatli had better fucking sail, so I’m going to call that #2 for right now. Please let them make a robot dinosaur together! And Chandra/Nissa is still fucking quality, I don’t care what happens.

OKAY so now I have to tag people. Since KC didn’t bother tagging 10 I’m not gonna, either. Just, any mutual who wants to can take it. For the sake of actually tagging people though, let’s say.... @draconicmentalist @stokerbramwell @gearydigit @the-cheese-hive-mind @swiftyscreativitycorner @vadvivon @humanmosquito And tbh there’s a lot of other people I would want to tag but I don’t remember everyone’s URLs and tbh I’ve already spent enough time on this post so, PLEASE DO THIS IT’S FUN