#as a fat person i DO get harassed more and confronted more if im not fairly covered up

[rocket-candy-heart]

I struggle so much with summer clothes that finding anything seasonally appropriate that I can wear without feeling nauseous is really a gift

[lilcowzia]

Hellloooooooo, asking bc I rly like yr insight on navigating fetish spaces ethically and all that jazz:

Do you think that if a prolific creator's content is inherently problematic (say misogyny-kink, womenarethings, degradeafatty, etc) that they can, and should, participate and be accepted in feedist spaces without criticism/ critique?

What two consensual adults do is whatever they choose to do as long as it's SSC, but if it perpetuates harmful tropes (like "ruination" of a formally fit body to something that of a small fat) should someone who's bothered by it just mind their own business?

im not sure im an expert on ethics but imo this kind of thing varies. if you are navigating within a kink space (which feedism is) then engaging in that kink via the taboo (degradation, etc), is just kind of normal i think? like where else are people going to do that besides a kink space, yanno? which isnt to say that it cant bother someone, but within online spaces, if a specific kind of content isnt for you, youre free to not engage with it/block. do i think fit-to-smallfat stuff is kind of lame? yeah. do a lot of the fantasies i see online perpetuate things that are simply not true of fat bodies or weight gain and contribute to real world misinformation? absolutely lol but i mean, its not as if once confronted ppl with thse fantasies would be like "oh okay" yanno? and its not as if something turning you on means that you believe it, exactly. im a fan of degrading language and its not because i think badly of myself or my body, its because its naughty and vulnerable feeling. and like, im a deathfeedist, its not exactly the thing ppl associate with moral purity, ik ppl dont always wanna see it but im also not gonna refrain from expressing myself. all that being said, if you do happen to be in a space where its not appropriate to force your fantasies onto other people (for example, leaving a degrading comment on someone elses photo, when theyre not into degradation, even if theyre a feedist or something) then what youve just done is harassment, i think thats pretty self explanatory. the rest can be kind of tricky i guess, there are instances in which ive opposed to certain fantasies being shared publicly, and ppl have also opposed my fantasies for being harmful so likeeeee. im probably not the best person to ask! there are ppl who say feedism is inherently harmful, and they're wrong and stupid but like, this shit isnt simple imo. if you really feel like your voice needs to be heard ofc you can say something, im just not sure kink-policing is something i could really recommend. im more of a RACK girlie and while i wish everyone had the framework to analyze their kinks and structures of power, most ppl just wanna get off. i prefer to focus my energy on myself and my partner as much as i can, personally

[groundramon]

So curiouscat has stupid short reply lengths so i had to post this here

Tw for: bullying, fatphobia, discussion of sexual harassment (oh it feels good to have enough characters to write a proper tw)

So it might surprise ppl to know that my favorite frontier character is JP, the raging heterosexual. But like, to me...hes so much more than that. JP is a character that I saw so much of myself in. His social isolation from his peers, leading him to push away others to avoid getting hurt...its not that people outwardly bully him, its that no one sees behind his surface and nobody bothers to truly care about him. People only recognize him as the class clown - no one actually wants to hang out with him. And that...that hit me HARD as a kid. It was the experience i had growing up. I wasn't outright bullied, I just felt...excluded. Judged. I wanted friends but was too afraid of being judged or excluded. And sometimes it caused me to be dismissive of genuinely good people. And quite frankly, that's STILL a problem I have, not even a year after an exfriend of 7 years said that our interests were one of the things driving us apart. My intense fear of being ridiculed for my interests drove me as a kid, and sometimes even now as an adult, to completely stop caring what my peers thought about anything. For all intents and purposes, im a bit of a hipster - i hate on what's popular and i tote my more obscure interests. Because I feel like that's the only way. Obviously i have fairly mainstream interests but lemme tell ya, i went to a christian school in the late 2000s/early 2010s - goddamn pokemon was obscure/counter-culture in a setting like that. But despite my desperate attempts not to care, I DO care, just like JP. It fuckin stung. And now i have depression and social anxiety whoops. Honestly ngl, it got so bad that I genuinely projected that it was implied JP was isolated for being fat/not conventionally attracted, until i was like "wait a minute...frontier didnt go that hard"

But what makes JP such a tragic character to me now is that at the end of Frontier nowadays when i watch it, im left asking myself....DID JP make any friends?

I know JP is a raging heterosexual but quite frankly, he is dealt such a shitty, judgemental hand for an innocent crush. JP's most nsfw fantasy is marrying Zoe and holding her hand, like... And yet, despite this, he's accused time and time again of being a perv. JP is, well, a big fuckin guy. As such, he thinks "its probably a good idea to let all my friends climb up this latter before me, so i dont crush them all if i fall - plus ill look chivalrous too!" But he unfortunately forgets that Zoe has a skirt on and, y'know, not pants. I understand Zoe's hesitation completely - i wouldnt trust a man who kept hitting on me either. Her relationship with JP is completely justified. Like, its not like JP doesn't take no for an answer - he just still has a crush on her. Yes he should probably give it a rest but like, he's 13 and his most nsfw fantasy is to hold hands and marry and respect his crush. Inb4 you say "but its a kids show of course it is-" literally everything about Zoe is sexualized so no the fuck its not lol

What gets me the most though is the beach episode... again, not because of Zoe. She thinks someone has peeped on her (understandable but it was a digimon) and confronts them about it. But koji and takuya IMMEDIATELY suspect JP, and only believe his immediate denial when Tommy points out that JP was with them the whole time. Like first of all, YOU FORGOT HE WAS THERE??? it took the baby of the group pointing that out for you to remember???? Second of all, JP has never done anything to warrant not being believed - again for zoe id understand, a bitch has gotta be weary, but not for the guys? And thirdly, and perhaps most importantly of all, YOU GUYS CONSIDER SOMEONE YOU'D EASILY SUSPECT OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT YOUR "FRIEND"???? i would NEVER be friends with someone who i could see sexually harassing another one of my friends!! What the shit!! I realize they're kids but GEEZ. And i know its implied JP only cares about the perpetrator because he likes Zoe but idc, despite being persistent in his crush JP has literally NEVER done ANYTHING to disrespect women. And if the scene where takuya and jp run into Zoe's changing room to see whats wrong after she screams counts - well lol takuya was there too.

Zoe was dealt a terrible hand by the writers (worse than JP imo) so I understand people being weary of JP, but - in the dub at least - he literally did nothing wrong... dont confuse the writers sexualizing zoe and being misogynistic with JP sexualizing zoe and being misogynistic.

And im gonna say it - JP is only treated this way cuz hes fat lol. Its not a coincidence that the only MC in the digimon anime who's treated like a perv (despite the fact that they failed in writing one, cuz hes not a perv) is the fat guy. Japan LOVES the fat otaku stereotype (America, look what you did, you made it fatphobic) and in JP's case he's treated completely differently because he's fat. Takuya doesn't have an explicit crush on Zoe but just look at how he treats her vs JP. And which one is demonized lmao? Like, frontier has major problems in general, but to me this isnt a coincidence.

Also, I think JP's crush on zoe is initially just flirting/wanting to impress a girl to fill the void in his heart, but then he genuinely comes to respect her and like her for who she is. He likes that she's kind but stands up for herself and even though he's hopelessly infatuated with her, he just wants her to be happy, even if its not with him. He relates to her struggles to fit in despite not understanding how someone so beautiful and charismatic (in his eyes) could be disliked by her peers.

Hackers Memory discussion coming up, but the spoilers are minor/vague. Frank discussion of sexual harassment and...pedophilia i guess? But its like...ephebophilia, not literal children.

I realize the Story games and the anime are two different beasts entirely, and Cyber Sleuth especially is targeted at an older audience. BUT... compare how JP is treated in Frontier to how Chitose and even Keisuke are treated in HM. Chitose goes after countless women and isn't even reprimanded for going after someone he considers a CHILD. To clarify - Ryuji and Chitose both call Arata a child. Arata is canonically older than Yuuko. Chitose flirts with Yuuko. It is gross. Like he gets the physical embodiment of the cold shoulder and you get to insult him for it, but that's not proper reprimanding. In comparison, yes JP is older than Zoe...by a year/grade. But JP gets accused of SEXUAL HARASSMENT BY HIS "FRIENDS" and Chitose just gets "haha good ol chitose, hes a wild one." Plus i think Chitose and JP get the shit smacked out of each other an equal amount of times in the story, which like...one of these people is worse than the other!

Then there's Keisuke, the protagonist of HM, who's significantly better than Chitose but still gets dirty thoughts about Yuuko and is only reprimanded by Erika. And honestly I love Erika but HM plays up the tsundere heterosexual couple aspect. So imagine the only person who calls you out on your shit is your fucking love interest, who also beat the shit out of you with a plush toy for entering her room without knocking, not knowing anyone was in there (id say hes not a playboy but considering he befriends a stranger to practice "getting chicks" at chitose's recommendation, hes totally a playboy) and yet all she does when you start thinking weird shit about Yuuko is be like "hey. Stop that. Get some help"

Also Erika's best friend is chitose so like, someone save this poor girl PLEASE

But my point is that Chitose is conventionally attractive and...well they play up the idea that Keisuke isn't but hes not conventionally unattractive like JP is.

Gee, i wonder why they're treated differently? /s

TLDR: JP drinks respecting women juice and i kin him

[lokibannerpool]

Update on the Mun

so i have been lurking on here for a while, not really doing any drafts or replies. I’m not abandoning this blog and these muses, I just haven’t had the motivation lately to be active on this account. I have been active on my other blogs for the most part. you can find me on @forcedintoperfection @thevirginandthefool @worldsfastestpredator @strongestcullen  @zorii-unknown and/or @brokenprincessofasgard  

Now for the shitstorm that is my life right now.

If you’re basically homeless and you know it clap your hands  *clap clap*

So we (by we I mean my mom, little brother and I) finally got evicted for reals like around Feburary-ish. My mom’s bright idea for temporary living was to move in with the worst person possible, her crazy ass aunt (on my grandpa’s side). 

Not only was the move stressful, but living here is terrible, and most of that is because my mother’s aunt (i have disowned her so no she’s not my great aunt) is doing everything in her power to make us feel unwelcome. Before I go into details, let me point out that my brother refused to come stay here because he has never felt welcome in this house, so he’s staying with family from our grandmother’s side (still crazy, but slightly more reasonable). And although I technically still have a room there, I did not stay because they hate animals and the great aunt that lives there once told me that if she could make it up the stairs to our old apartment she’d kill my cats. Later she denied it, but yeah... that’s the kind of crazy on that side’ of the family.

I was going to take my cats and live in a hotel from paycheck to paycheck. i had done the math and i could afford 7 days from one paycheck if i literally didn’t buy anything else, and the hotel had free breakfast i didn’t have to worry about food at least if i could save some of the breakfast for lunch then probably do dinner at a family member’s house. (yeah not the best plan but for me if I’m giving up my cats to a shelter I’m giving up on life. plus hotel accepted animals and was legit cheaper than a putting them in a pet hotel which would have been 22 a night per cat... i have 5 cats and a part time job) BUT low and behold my mother pulls some strings with the aunt (only after catching me crying on eviction day because I didn’t know what to do with my babies) and suddenly I can keep the cats as long as they stay in the basement. Not ideal, but more affordable for me so I take it.

Now back to the hell house I’m trapped in.

1) It took a while to move everything in, but I think we were almost full settled in by a Friday or Saturday night. On the Monday (which was like day 3 of living there) my mother’s aunt not only called me repeatedly on my phone, she kept yelling my name from the first floor. When I finally become conscious enough to go see what she wants, she is telling me that I sleep too much, It’s ridiculous how much I sleep, I need to go get a job, I’m not going to sleep my life away in HER house, yada yada, then she goes on about how by my age she was living on her own and paying off her own car (both were confirmed to be lies by sources that were alive at that time. crazy bitch was still sleeping in the bed with her mother at 22).. Now maybe you think that’s not so bad? but I forgot to mention one little detail. 

It was only 8:10 AM  and I had class at 10 am.

My alarm clock was literally set to go off 20 minutes from that time. Not only was it early as fuck, but I had a class to go to so it wasn’t like i was going to be staying in the house all day. SHE KNEW I HAD CLASS, THAT WAS WHAT PISSED ME OFF THE MOST. I had literally been discussing my classes with her for weeks prior to even moving in with her. Another thing that interested me was how she conveniently waited until my mother had left to start harassing me. anyway, so i get dressed because im mad as hell by this point, and i get ready to leave in under 15 minutes so we’re around 8:30am by this point. When I get downstairs she is demanding that I come into her room, and against my better judgement I do but I’m in no mood to talk. She takes one look at my face and asks me “why are you pissed off?”  As if she didn’t know why. I don’t want to curse her out because I wasn’t raised to do things like that so i keep my mouth shut. She keeps trying to get me to talk, and at this point angry tears that I have been trying so hard to hold back are falling and she tells me I’m being dramatic and I’m over reacting. I tell her I have to go to class more than once and she’s still demanding that I sit and talk with her, so I just walk out.    She calls my phone more than once but I don’t answer because I am a) driving and b) still mad as hell. she leaves voicemails. 1 saying that im being overreacting and stuff. the second comes a few hours later with a fake apology after she apparently talked to my mother. I later find out that she lied to my mom and told her that she forgot I had school, yet when I was not trying to talk to her she was telling me i had 2 hours before i had to be in class.. so yeah and that was only the start of day 3 of living there.

2) Fast forward a few days because in this family, we apparently just go on like nothing happened after conflicts like this. My mom comes to me in the morning and warns me that the aunt had threatened to call the human society to take my cats away because I ‘don’t spend enough time with them’. Which pissed off my mom as much as me because she’s seen what I’ve done for these cats in the past 2 years. (especially with Brenda, who is a rescue stray I took in after she was covered in tape by strangers and either dropped at our door or she limped her way up the stairs to us for help, and the two litters of kittens she had in our apartment) 

The aunt confronts me about this after I come down to feed them by asking me “do you really want the cats” and then telling me not to get an attitude when I say “of course I do” rather defensively. She tells me the b.s. she told my mom to which i point out that we literally just got here, i have classes 5 days a week and work 7 days a week. Plus, she’s usually sleep when I come in after work so she doesn’t see me dragging my aching body (still sore from doing the brunt of the moving) down to the basement to replace the food and water and spend time with them before I go to bed and I would literally be sleeping down there if it wasn’t for my mom nagging me about my health (which tbh comes second to the cats in my opinion but she disagrees). She doesn’t seem all that convinced, and my anxiety was through the roof for the longest because i wasn’t sure if i was going to come back to a cat-less basement after work. 

My therapist has been having an earful btw. Literally the week before I knew we were being evicted I spent most of a session trying to find something to talk to her about and now I have at least one new problem ever week. 

3) This woman has no respect for me or my mother. She’s verbally attacked my mother and berated her more than once. (today included) and at one point accused my mom of using her father for money(who died only 2 years prior, and who is the only one who took responsibility for making all the funeral arrangements and is still struggling to pay that bill because no one else wanted to help). This is sidetracking a little, but my mom did a lot for my grandfather. Brought his medical supplies with a loan she had taken out from her job, literally came to wash him up multiple times because his in house nurse wasn’t doing it, and pretty much ran every errand he asked for her and if she couldn’t do it she had me do it for her... so yeah to say she was using him was really fucked up and it really hurt my mom.

3.5) One morning (last week) i literally caught her and her ‘tenant’ (aka her brother’s ex girlfriend who he left for his wife 2 years ago and refuses to leave his family’s home) talking shit about me and my mom. How we’re dirty,  my mom walks too loud, complaining about us having mini conversations late at night (which only happened once), calling my mom fat, and saying that she’s not  ‘dainty’ and ‘feminine’ enough and they don’t know how she kept a man for so long... really just talking trash while im standing at the top of the stairs listening. I wait until they finish to say anything and they’re not even ashamed or apologetic. The aunt literally says “good. now you can tell your mom what i said” after  i said i heard just about all of it. She seemed offended when I refused to be her messenger. She then tried to talk shit about my mom to me, going as far to tell me that my mother a ‘fat slob’. And because I don’t want to be kicked out before we find a place, I have to bite my tongue and just walk away while she purposely baits me and tells me to ‘speak my mind’. 

There is so much more I could write about, like how she (a woman who has never had a cat in her life) is always telling me how to take care of my cats like I don’t know what I’m doing, yet she’s basing this all off the dog she had (but didn’t really want or take care of) over 10 years ago.  Or how she likes to try to provoke me or my mom (but mostly me because I’m the easier target I guess) whenever she’s bored. The fact that she forced cable boxes on us, then demanded my mom pay her $400 for the installation of the cable despite us both making it very clear we didn’t want it. How she’s always trying to say someone is trying to use her as if my mom isn’t paying $800 a month for two little ass rooms and a bathroom/kitchen we have to share with two other people And sooo much more. 

I’ve ended up self harming for the first time in about two-ish years while staying here. My suicidal thoughts are  happening very often and honestly I’ve turned to drinking my feelings away when I’m not cutting them away. I’ve literally been so stressed that my period disappeared for like 3 months (no im not pregnant. gotta be sexually active to get pregnant so yes its stress) and I’m pretty sure I’m developing some sort of repressed anger issues that I should probably mention to my therapist but I keep forgetting. 

So that’s pretty much what’s been going on in my life lately. 

And I don’t know how to end this so... there

[inferno-sytem]

Seen people talking about how Trans Day of Visibility is preformative and for cis people. I agree, we need real change, not just to be visible. But.

For me, being a visible trans person is very very important. Let me paint you a picture: my high school is conservative, trump-flag-waving, 97% white, there's only about 15 out queer people total, the administration that did nothing when told that a student had been PAID by another student to assault a queet person, I as a trans student am not allowed in ANY public bathroom on the premises, its so Christian that teaching evolution is a debate, the superintendent mocked a visible queer person to an entire classroom of students this week, misogyny and sexism are ever present, ablism also runs rampant, and thats hardly the beginning. The environment can feel like hell, yet every day I go with my head held high as a disabled queer person. As a nonbinary transgender man.

And when I say I'm visible, I mean it. I've painted my face with the trans and non binary flags at school, I wear pride pins and a rainbow mask, I've brought my flag to school and worn it around as a cape, and dress very distinctively. Even if I have no flags on that day, people can tell I'm queer, I make sure of it.

Sometimes it can seem counter productive. Why dress in a way you know will make bigots angry? I go through a lot of unnecessary harassment that maybe would be lessened if I wasn't so up front about it. Maybe I look like I just want attention, or maybe its too "stereotypical." But if I make anything clear with this post its that I do not do it for me. I love being trans, and Im very proud of my trans and disabled self, but that is not the main motivator for why I do it.

Its other queer people. I've had younger queer people come out to me. Theres a few middle schoolers that have talked to me, and that I've become pretty close with because I'm so visible. Sometimes I'm the only person that isn't in their same grade level that they feel comfortable around.

I've also educated some people. It's something I'm very open to talking about, and there are people who have gone from telling me that I cant be a "real boy" because of my anatomy and wardrobe to correcting other people when I get misgendered. There are people that may never have met a trans person before, and I get to be the first impression. Even when people are ignorant I do my best to be kind and non confrontational. Most of all, though, I'm human. Seeing me in person and talking has helped humanize trans people as a whole, and made people more sympathetic to understanding trans issues

Other queer people have told me my confidence is inspiring, too. They look up to me, wish they could dress like me, or are just happy to see someone whose comfortable. Its so helpful to see someone who is like you be comfortable and happy, especially in a place like our school. There is a narrative that trans people are selfish, bitter, pushy, and unhappy. Being open about myself, and genuine when I show my joy fights that. I remember first coming out and being surrounded by the idea that I would be better off if I were just a cis boy, being trans sucks, and its just cycles of hating yourself, your body, and not being satisfied. That is wrong, and I want to make sure every trans kid I gave the possibility of reaching knows it. There are parts that suck, discrimination and dysphoria are obviously bad, but transness is not centered around such things. Trans is beautiful, and its something to be proud of. It's a part of yourself that you can learn to love, and when you do you will be so much happier. Visible trans people showed that to me, and now I am showing it to younger trans people.

This is a bit rambly, but what I'm saying here is that visibility is valuable. Let other queer people see that they're not alone. Let younger trans people see the happy person they can grow to be. Embrace what makes you different, and be proud of what the oppressors want you to be ashamed of. You are beautiful, and stronger than they think you are. When you're visible you will be a beacon to those who need to see themselves, a safe space for those who need to be protected, and a friend to those who felt alone. We, my fellow trans people, live in a world where existing is a powerful thing to do, and that alone can help change the world for the better. Even if you're not as visible, or visible at all. You are powerful, and I am proud of you.

Also! A special nod to intersectional trans people. Trans people of color have brought about so much necessary change in the world that we all bennifit from today, and they continue to be a beautiful, powerful, and foundational part of the community. Fellow disabled trans people, we are not too much, and we can take up as much space as we need. You are entitled to accommodations, your correct pronouns, and respect. Im proud of you all, very much so. Gay and not hetero trans people (including aro and ace trans people!), fat trans people, trans people in religious minorities, trans feminine people, trans masculine people, and nonbinary people all have a unique experience that you deserve to share with the world. Even if you're stealth or closeted I am so proud of you. I love this community, amd I want you to know that you are loved. Im a couple days late, but happy trams day of visibility ❤

[omgxiaoch]

Monsta X and their conforming s/o

requested by anon~

a/n: okay at first i was confused whether it was comforting or conforming then it was conforming (iactuallysearchedthewordlololololsorry) so i hope you guys enjoy this! i apologize for any misspelled words or wrong grammar and if ever i’ve offended someone... huhu i didn’t mean to tho. credits to the owners for these gifs!

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Shownu;

this boy would be clueless about you being conforming about traditional customs, standards, and expectations

once the boys told him about the signs of someone who is conforming, he’d still be clueless

ever since they told him about the signs, he would observe your actions, words and many more

however, once he finally saw a green light to all of the signs he wouldn’t really change his perspective of you

he’d be even more interested in you, constantly asking about what you think of this and that

but then he’d also be worried

worried that you might get hurt because of the fact that you conform to anything that is standard in the society

‘babe, you do know that you don’t have to go by the book right?’

‘i know but i want to do it’

by the second that left your mouth, shownu would just support you and secretly try to protect you from the bad stuff

i actually dont know what type of bad stuff but yeah, bad stuff

as days passed, he noticed that it got worse

he’d actually try to talk to you, one on one

by the second that you tried to disagree and defend yourself once he finished telling you what he wanted to say

he’d hear you out but then would point out what’s wrong

but then he wouldn’t force you to change since he will always love you for who you are

and after the talk, the two of you might just go out and eat some patbingsu

Wonho;

this boy would notice it right away

being someone who always go by the standards and book, wonho wouldn’t be that happy tho

since he knows at some point, you’ll just get hurt

and he doesn’t want to see the person he loves hurting

so, instead of attacking you directly with his questions, he’ll casually talk about the rules or standards that is present in our society

and he would actually tell you that sometimes it would be nice to break the rules

only to receive a negative response from you

that’s when his questions enter

he, just like shownu, would explain what would happen if you’d be always by the book or complying to all the standards that society wants us to be

and how he’d feel if something happens to you 

knowing how cruel the world is, he’d actually ask if you could just lessen the ‘conforming to every rules and standards’

but then once he sees that you’re getting uncomfortable with the topic, he’ll change the topic and try to brighten up the mood

before that, he’d apologize to you first since he doesn’t want to see you upset because of him

once that he sees you that you’re fine, he’ll be happy and maybe try to  talk to you about it maybe some other time

however, when you came home with tears in your eyes, he’d immediately ask you what happened 

and you’ll tell him about this dude you almost harassed you because you corrected him and told him that he was going against the rules

and that, my children, will be the start of wonho scolding you but not that scolding that could hurt you but that type of scolding that would make you realize 

but then he wouldn’t really force you to change right away

Kihyun;

this boy would find it cute when he sees you abiding the rules and regulations to every single thing

seeing you cutely tell him that he’s going against the rule or standard, fits of giggles coming from him would fill the room, like literally

then this goes by for how many days and he’d still think that you’re cute

but then, he notices that you’re always going for what the society wants, 

using this set of branded clothes or going on a diet because the society only finds those who have bodies like idols beautiful and when you’re fat, they’ll call you ugly and whatnots

he’d be unhappy about it

like really unhappy

he’d actually confront you out of the blue, asking you why you’re suddenly doing this and that

but when you told him that the society or the book says that blah blah blah blah blah

he’d actually shuush you up. 

a savage yet honest Kihyun would legit appear

he wouldn’t really think of his words to be honest, may it offend or hurt you 

but it’s only the way for him to show how much it affects him to see that you’re going through all this trouble

but then once he sees you on the verge of tears, he’d be angry at himself 

he’d immediately apologize for what he just said, if he’d offended or hurt you

and he would also explain his side, how he doesn’t want to see you do this just to follow what the society wants

and yes, just like shownu and wonho, he wouldn’t force you to change yourself just because he doesn’t like that side of yours 

Minhyuk;

this minnie wouldn’t be able to notice it right away to be honest

when he sees you doing things by the book, he’d just shrug it off and continue with what he’s doing

when the members tells him about you being a conforming person, he’d just look at them and tell them that he does not know what they’re talking about

and when they explain it to him, he’d be ‘. o . )’ to every single word that he understands

when minhyuk and you hang out for no particular reason, the thought of you being a conforming person would literally be on repeat on his mind

and once that you notice his change of actions and expressions, you’d ask him what’s wrong, to which he’d just reply ‘nothing, babe’

and you’d just shrug it off lel

when both of you are out, he’d start observing you.... thinking that he’s not obvious

and he’d be freaking obvious, which will make you give him a look and ask him what’s up

and he’d literally spill everything and you’ll just be ‘lol’

okay, so once he’d seen everything that answered his questions, he’d still be ‘. o .)?’ 

but then once he finally sees the big picture, he wouldn’t really care to be honest

since it’s who you really are and he loves you for it

seeing how you can handle all those negative stuff being thrown at you for being always by the book, he respects you for it

but once he sees that someone is going over that line, he’d be mad asf

he’d actually defend you tho 

and instead of you being held back, it’ll be him that you’ll be holding back since he mind cause some trouble lelelel

Hyungwon; 

it won’t bother this boiii

you going by the book? fine by him, it’s even attractive since a woman like you knows what is wrong and what is right 

and you can also give justice to those who are being ganged up by ignorant people

but then, you going by the standards of the society? not okay

he’d be bothered about it to be honest

like you’re beautiful and unique in your own ways, why follow all of the things that are only accepted by the society?

what’s wrong about being a unique individual that doesn’t give a fck about what other people think?

he’d literally be confused why you’re doing the ‘accepted’ or ‘must be followed’ standards in the society

but then when he sees you changing yourself because it does not abide to what the society wants damn, i’d better hide myself if i were you

he’d be legit straightforward with you 

asking you why’re you’re changing yourself and he’d be pissed off, i tell you

he doesn’t want you to change yourself for someone who you’re really not, someone who’s the standard of acceptance in the society

no, he’s not gonna take all that bs coz he knows that you’re some who’s pure and who’s freaking amazing

but then he’s totally fine with you going by the book

but then he’d be annoyed sometimes... especially when the two of you are playing.... boardgames

you’d be like jooheon, saying ‘time time time *with matching hand gesture* and he’d reach that point wherein he’d literally stop playing and cuddle with you instead since he loves you... 

and he’d still love you for who you are despite being a conforming person. if you still want to continue with what you really want, he’d support you but then he’d tell you to limit your actions tho since he doesn’t want to see you hurt

Jooheon;

this bundle of cuteness wouldn’t really mind if you’re complying to all of the rules and regulations

but then he’d mind if you’d follow the standards of society

since he himself does not want to see you lose self-esteem or self-confidence or even change yourself 

he wants you to love yourself, may it be your flaws or strengths, he just wants you to learn how to love yourself without letting he ‘accepted’ stuff in the society affect you

but then he’d be whiney to be honest

since whenever the two of you are playing, you’ll always follow the rules 

and when he suggests a new syle of the game, you’d actually hear him out

and once the two of you finally set the rules for the game, you’d be at peace at firs

and once this cutie decides to break the rules,

you’d be attacking him, telling him that he can’t do that since its not in the rules and what not

he’d be bitter, annoyed and yeah, he’d probably whine

but then when it comes to the real world, when someone tries to correct you or him or even the boys, 

you were always there to defend yourself or him or the boys

and sometimes, things kinda get out of hand and this would literally stress him out

so he’d talk to you about it and all 

but then he wouldn’t really change his perspectives of you tho

he’d still love you for who you really are and would even want to make you his wife idk what im saying lol

I.M;

do i need to even explain myself? this boy would be literally onto you

knowing that you know almost all of the rules, he’d be asking you random questions like what should you do in blah blah blah

but then, this boy finds it attractive 

and he’d even call you sexy since your brain knows a lot of information and stuff 

but then when he sees you conforming to every single thing there is in the society, he’d be confused at first

then he’d be slightly ticked off when he sees what this conforming this has done to you and whatnots

but then he wouldn’t force you to stop or change

he’d just maybe, vent out what he thinks about your actions and let you understand his side

and he’d also hear you out and understand your side and idk maybe make a deal with you

like if you succeed in lessening your actions that might cause trouble or burden, then he’d do anything that you want and vice-versa

however, things may not go as planned so there might be times that you might almost get into a fight when you’re out 

and this would literally worry him to be honest

then once again, he’d have a heart to heart talk with you 

but this time, he’d be firm about what he’s going to say. just imagine a serious changkyun, okay a serious changkyun, okay are you imagining it? good

he respects the idea of you abiding to the rules and regulations and even to the standards of the society BUUUUUT

A BIG BUTT-- a big but, conforming to every single thing that is accepted can cause you trouble or even hurt you ANNND he doesn’t want to see you hurt

but then, he wouldn’t force you to change. and once this talk is done, his love for you won’t change. he’d still love and support you