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The unnecessary lack of personal stakes of Marinette Dupain-Cheng in the Agreste Arc
Inspired by a recent post by @starguardianniom, with half pinched again from my own reblog:
Marinette has zero personal stakes in the main conflict of her show, except that she happened to be the first girl who helped Fu across the road, and was thus chosen to wear the earrings. She doesn't even really seem to have any reason to be Ladybug aside from the basic "I can't sit back and do nothing" she stated in Origins. So a sense of responsibility conferred by being the bearer of the earrings, and an ostensible general desire to do good.
This would be fine, except that Adrien very much did have a reason to continue being Chat Noir. Plagg's Miraculous is the source of his freedom, and a new identity of his own making separate from the carefully curated child of Gabriel Agreste. Most importantly he had so much personal connection to the core plot that his narrative potential dwarfed Marinette's beyond compare.
His mere existence is the very axis of the plot, putting it in motion by the apparent desire for a designer child seeming being the very reason Gabriel and Emile sought the Miraculous all those years ago, and the consequences of his creation being the very reason that Gabriel devolves into magical terrorism. Hawkmoth being his father whom Adrien clearly cares for and whose goal of restoring his much mourned mother setup a truly impressive case for split loyalties for when Adrien (seemingly) inevitably learnt of his father's identity and true goal:
I made a comparison before between Avatar and Miraculous where Avatar won without question. Allow me to balance the scales here: the setup for Adrien potentially turning on Ladybug, or having to sacrifice his familial bonds for the sake of justice outweighed Zuko's own setup for choosing his ''honour"/loyalty to his family over his burgeoning sense of justice.
In potential at least. Rest assured that Zuko's character arc still far eclipses anything Adrien was ever allowed.
But the point I'm trying to make here is that in the very story that bears her name, Ladybug's only reason to be involved comes from the fact that she happens to have Tikki's Miraculous. She has no personal investment in the fate of Hawkmoth than other citizen of Paris, she certainly has no conflicting loyalties.
She doesn't even have a personal reason to continue being Ladybug. You can draw a parallel if you like with one of her ostensible inspirations Peter Parker, who learnt the price of personal inaction in a harsh and unforgiving manner that selflessly drives him to protect others. You can say that the Stoneheart incident fulfills a similar role.
But here's the thing: Peter Parker is Spiderman thanks to his radioactive blood. Ladybug is whoever wears Tikki's Miraculous. If Peter retires, he takes his powers away from the protection of New York. If Marinette gives up her Miraculous, a new Ladybug will arise in her place within a day. There's no need for her to be Ladybug, to take on that responsibility, and until the season three finale there's no personal stake for her to be the girl under the mask any more than any other Parisian citizen.
And that means that Marinette isn't the heart of her own story. In Avatar, it's Aang's quest to defeat the Fire Lord because it has to be him that restores balance. In Star Wars, it's Luke whose connection with Vader that has to restore Anakin's better nature. In just about any series there is a pressing need and personal stakes for the protagonist to be that The Protagonist of that story, that make that story their story.
But the setup here has all the pathos and personal stakes placed upon Adrien. Marinette is the centerpiece of the show, but Adrien's handed all of the narrative potential even as the writers let it go to waste.
It's like preparing a finely seasoned meal, then leaving it to rot as you serve plain vegetables. There's just no reason to have the vegetables when the fine meal is ready for consumption: and if that's a problem? If the plain vegetables were always meant to be the centrepiece? Then you should have seasoned the vegetables and made something delectable with them.
Because the saddest apart about Marinette having or actual ties or pathos to the Agreste Arc is that once upon a time that was not the case.
In previous Miraculous proposals, before the PV, Marinette Cheng was at least as part of the main story as Felix/Adrien was. There were various versions of how the story would go, with one echoing Cardcaptor's plot, and the later proposals looking more like what we got in the final product.
But all had Marinette having a personal stake in the story. In the Cardcaptor-esque plot, Marinette was Fu's granddaughter (or granddaughter figure), and Fu was the caretaker of the The Orb. A crystal that contained all the "fairies" (beings that served both the roles Kwamis and Akumas would later take). The story kicked off because Marinette brought her crush Felix into her Grandfather's store and accidentally broke The Orb, shattering it and allowing the Fairies to escape across Paris and empower countless people- heroes and villains both.
It was her mission to retrieve the Fairies, because she was the one who had released them. She was Fu's granddaughter and it was her responsibility to clean up her mess. It was her story, and Felix/Adrien was the one with less direct connection.
Later proposals ditched The Orb as the Kwamis were developed, but up until the most recent and final versions of the story Marinette retained Fu as either her blood Grandfather outright or at least a mentor so close from her childhood that she thought of him as a Grandfather. She also was usually being trained to be a Guardian or something like it herself from childhood.
She wasn't just a girl Fu found on the side of the road. She had as much connection to the Guardians and their world as Felix/Adrien did to Papillion. It even added a certain Montague-Capulet tragic element to the romance, since if Felix/Adrien and Marinette ever got together it would mean one having to choose between their partner and their family.
But for some reason, in the final product Marinette was stripped of all pre-series personal connections to the Miraculous.
The question is why? Was there really so great a need for Martinette to be "a girl like any other" that all of the plot relevance needed to be stripped out of her and added to Adrien, only to then completely ignore all that potential pathos by sidelining Adrien at every turn?
Because if you weren't going to do anything with Adrien, then all you've done is needlessly undermine Marinette's potential as a character.
Seriously, if you had given me the backstory of these two characters and asked which one was the main character: there would have been no chance I would have selected Marinette. Because all the writers have given her backstory is side-character material, whereas Adrien's very existence, as well as his relationship to his family and the Miraculous is at the heart of the story.
And I doubt there would be many others who would think otherwise.
#ml writing salt#ml writing critical#Literally the worst of both options here. Marinette is both disconnected from the core story AND the most important person in it.#Meanwhile Adrien has ALL the narrative potential and pathos. But he's left on the shelf because otherwise he'd overshadow Marinette's story#They had a perfectly good setup. It's beyond me why they dropped it in favor of this one.#Of all the questionable writing choices this is the one that confuses me the most.#Why give Adrien all the setup if you weren't going to use any of it? Why take away 99% of Marinette's if she's meant to be the story focus?#I recommend the Artbook Wiki for anybody who wants to learn more about the development cycle of Miraculous (link below).#https://www.artbookwiki.com/phases-of-development/mini-menace
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Two more books to the Touhou collection, and the beginning of my Ace Attorney collection
#Yipee!!#Its really really cool having touhou books physically#Seeing them in the format theyre actually made in instead of just texts and images on a wiki is awesome and makes me really really happy#being able to appreciate all the little details of the design of the books and stuff#Also the tgaa2 artbook YEAHHHHHWOOOOO#Ive already seen like 99% of the art in it cause its all uploaded on the wiki or ingame as well but idc im so happy to have it
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Something that makes me sad is that it doesn’t seem like the more recent Transformers series get any supplementary material to further explore their worlds and characters
Like Animated has the AllSpark Almanac, Prime has a bunch of stuff because it’s part of Aligned, but if you wanted you could probably just say the Covenant of Primus, G1 also is chock full of stuff because there’s so many spin-offs that supposedly take place in the same universe as it, and I mean there’s technically two versions of it between the cartoon and the Marvel comics, and hell even the Bayverse movies had tie-in comics explaining the origins of the war and certain characters, from what I gather
Meanwhile, as far as I can tell, neither Cyberverse nor Earthspark have really had anything outside of the shows themselves to really delve into the details of the world that they can’t get into in the show, and I think that’s a real shame
Earthspark in particular, because I want to know more details about the war and how it started, but the show won’t go into it. And I understand why they might not touch on it, because the point of the show is to explore the post-war situation of the Transformers, but can we not have some sort of guidebook that delves into this history? You could even market it as like, an in-universe guide made by the Autobots, or maybe Alex since he’s very knowledgeable on Cybertronian history, possibly even GHOST but they might be outdated at this rate (and probably biased), to explain to the younger characters the basics on the war
I personally would just really like to get more information on these worlds, and it’s a shame Hasbro doesn’t seem to be giving us that like they would prior
#this would also apply to One but I can give it a pass for being relatively recent and up in the air whether it’s continuing#though I think an artbook or something explaining pre-movie Cybertron would still work fine and not interfere with sequels#and maybe Earthspark gets a pass for still being ongoing#from what I understand the AllSpark Almanac only came out in 2009 with the final season#but for Cyberverse there’s no reason not to give us one outside of them just not caring enough about it#and I assume the reason we don’t have this supplemental material is because they don’t care as much anymore#and you know that makes me sad#I probably wouldn’t be able to get my hands on the guidebooks but I would like the see the Wiki full of their details#and yes there is fanfiction to supplement my worldbuilding needs sure but I want canon material too#transformers#transformers cyberverse#transformers earthspark
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sakura concept from TYPE-MOON Manuscript (Katatsuki Kouhon, 型月稿本?)






this one is from TYPE-MOON Ace Volume 11

non transparent versions
#fate series#fate official art#sakura matou#matou sakura#dark sakura#fate#Takashi Takeuchi#type moon#fate stay night#sakura#heaven's feel#fate stay night heaven's feel#non transparent version cuz im lazy#i submitted the top images to the wiki so im too lazy to make them pngs#Fate/Stay Night Heaven`s Feel artbook
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me realizing that they had the guy named for the lighthouse guiding the huge-ass blind dragon around
#sometimes i’m slow#i wonder if pharos even had a name before arc 2#he's in the arc 1 artbook as 'sunfire high priest'#i actually checked the wiki history and his name wasn't added until just after s5 released#but i wonder like... internally when was he named by the writers
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Punkprowler Headcanons (because you can never have enough 😌👌🏾🎸💜✨)
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-Hobie makes Miles G mixtapes of songs that remind him of him, and Miles G uses his uncle's old cassette player to play them. Miles G figures out a way to do a backwards compatible mp3 to cassette recording (because he's tech savvy like that) and gives mixtapes with his own favorites on them to Hobie. Hobie plays them on his Sony cassette deck in his boathouse
-Miles G helps Hobie take care of his wicks when he's tired after battling Osborn and his symbiote army, and Hobie likes to braid Miles G's hair in different styles because he loves it when he wears it proudly
-Miles teaches Hobie how to cook Puerto Rican dishes, and Hobie and Riri help Miles G with his physics homework on the days he's too tired to think after coming from nightly patrols
-At Earth-138B Miles G fits right in because he has no problem fighting fascists and V.E.N.O.M. symbiote cops, and even though rock isn't his top genre, he did have an alternative Linkin Park phase and Hobie convinces him to rap at some of his punk concerts. He becomes an urban legend
-After Hobie makes Miles G his own watch, Hobie often pulls him into spontaneous dates and adventures at other dimensions. Miles G warms up and starts doing it too, and before they know it, crossing time and space just to spend time with each other becomes a regular part of their lives
-Mattea Murdock teaches Hobie Spanish so he can use it to surprise Miles G. Miles thinks Hobie learning Spanish for him is the coolest thing on the planet
-These two are good-hearted vigilantes but watch out. Hobie has no problem killin it on a guitar, and Miles G has no problem handling his business like wolverine. Oooo What's up danger?
-As the Punk spider who's the Prowler in another universe, and the Prowler who was meant to be Spider-man, these two are the definition of opposites attract
-When Hobie meets Rio he introduces himself as his boyfriend with a smile. When Hobie meets Aaron he introduces himself as his girlfriend with a toothy grin. Both of these times were unplanned and Miles G was mortified until Rio smiled at Hobie, and Aaron laughed and told Hobie he liked her style
-Hobie Brown, Miles G Morales, and Ganke M Lee (Earth-42) often play video games and do graffiti at Miles G's spraypaint mural at the abandoned Metro Station. This is how Hobie finds out Ganke is Miles G's guy in the chair. Hobie can't tell if Ganke likes Miles because he can never get a read on him, and Ganke likes messing with Hobie just for the entertainment value
-When Gwen V. Stacy (Gwenom) meets Hobie, Hobie thinks Miles' friend has somehow succumbed to a V.E.N.O.M. symbiote that followed him from Earth-138B, so he tries to 'rescue' her from the symbiote but that goes about as well as you would expect. Gwen and Hobie are pretty evenly matched in a fight but eventually Gwen convinces him her symbiote is different and can be trusted. After their rocky start, and Hobie finds a symbiote dog in his own world that he takes care of, he brings this little inkblot with him to visit her and they become friends. They both mess with Miles G, and Gwen is ready to go to their wedding already, because Gwen and Hobie are friends in every universe
-Miles G plays some Childish Gambino while chilling with Hobie, and Hobie says that that singer is The Prowler in another universe. He smugly mentions he caught him once. Miles G doesn't know what to do with this information
-These two love to mix and match each other's clothes. Hobie takes the shirts Miles gives him and turns them into sleeveless crop tops with FNSM symbols and Anarchy symbols painted and spraypainted on them. And Miles takes the patched jackets and hoodies that Hobie gives him, and adds his own designs and spraypaint to them with his own tag designs and symbols on them. Peak punk style and NY streetwear solidarity
-Hobie teaches Miles G how to play the guitar and the drums, and Miles G teaches Hobie the salsa, cha cha, the jerk, the dougie, the wobble, and any other dance he thinks Hobie needs to catch up on and learn. He finds that Hobie is a quick learner
Cue a timeskip and Hobie has long defined dreads, and Miles G has dreads in a braided bun to match. Miles G stopped Hobie's canon event where he was fated to die young with a signature Morales "Nah imma do my own thing", and Hobie helped save Rio and Aaron from the final battle with Kingpin and the Sinister Six when Miles G's identity was revealed and he had no choice but to lead an avengers assemble style fight
Now that things in Earth-42 and Earth-138B have calmed down, they can say that their futures are looking bright
And at the end of the day, no matter what obstacles they may face, they're glad to have each other
#punkprowler#prowlerpunk#hobie x miles g#Earth-138B#Earth-42#hobie brown#spiderpunk#miles g morales#prowler miles#miles 42#And there are several other surprise characters mentioned too 😏#we're pulling out hobie's comic wiki and miles g's artbook lore as a cameo for this one y'all 👌🏾🎸💜✨#atsv#across the spiderverse#jjs-writing
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Actually doing a lisanna theme is better than doing an rh one
#Imagine trying to make a rh layout & the only materials you have to work with for anyone is like. 1 frame from the 3ds intro.#The bad background erased pngs of the nds character sprite from the wiki#& the updated & COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STYLE of the 3ds remake full body images#also i guess the overworld & battle sprites from the game itself but spriters resources doesnt have all of them lol#unless you wanna... hit me up....#Theres also the cgs from the 3ds remake but theyre low quality (Read: 3ds resolution) & there arent any scans of the rhpc artbook online#Also it was only available for pre orders of the game so good luck#nillas
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Flythorn; Sonic Speed Simulator
#sonicreferencephotos#sonic reference#3d#sonic speed simulator#badniks#the floating spiky purple badniks from superstars#I literally cannot find what these guys are called anywhere#i've searched the wikis and the artbook#did I miss it? are they unnamed? is their name only findable if you dig through the game files?#please help#edit: name has been found! thank you to the anon who sent it in#flythorn
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I just like the color palette……….
#my phone is also red. shout out to red.#testament image is from accent core. ive tried n failed to find the artbook scans thats from but well its on their wiki. in dogshit quality#oh yeah and i never fixed the text on the lock screen after the layout was changed. oh well#i could do that but tbh i dont really need the reminder ive gotten into the habit of taking them mostly#but like its kinda funny so ive left it there#the kat goes meow
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I saw ur touhou reblog and and. .. do u like or at least know touhou ? I've been getting into it, mainly from the manga since I SUCK at bullet hells, but it's super cool so far and wanna see if more mutuals like it :o))
i LOVE touhou! It's a big interest of mine, especially the music, ever since i discovered U.N Owen Was Her in 2012. Ever since, im into it even if i dont draw the characters myself- i very often think about them though and listen to the original osts or remixes several times a week. So touhou is a big part of my life!
It's great that you're getting into it- the mangas are really cool and they put the characters in fun new situations, as well as expending on certain ones like Kasen in Wild And Horned Hermit. But i get not being good at bullet hells, neither am i honestly 😔! i just play in easy mode with continues, and can only dream about reaching extra stages' bosses (except Saki in 17 i beat her somehow)... You don't have to play any of the games to be a touhou fan honestly 👍👍
though know that not all touhou characters appear in the mangas, if you want to know more about them in general (without playing the games), there's the 'profile' sections on the touhou wiki (on the bottom of the characters' pages), which are official descriptions of the characters, with their concept/abilities and story. And of course theres all the music on youtube, that all communicate the characters' vibes really well too. Touhou is massive theres so much about it, that even a decade later i myself don't everything about every character ever! You're probably going to have a blast finding all the official info on the stories and characters, hope you have fun 👍👍!!
#asks#i linked the wiki because theres actually several for some reason- and iirc some havent updated in a while? i could be wrong though#the one i linked should be the one where you can find translations of the (official) artbooks i think. they're hard to find though#so if you want to read said artbooks (that have extra info on. everything from the characters to the worldbuilding) i can find it for you 👍👍
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walks out of isat discord covered in blood and dirt . much to think about
#IN A GOOD WAY#anyway. we now know mirabelles surname. and we got SEVERAL chunks of unused dialogue. all in 1 sitting#the devil works but the ppl working on the isat wiki work harder (updating everything in Real Time)#i cant wait for the artbook..
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just spent an hour editing the uncompleted sweet pool wiki. yes im insane and yes i will be attempting to do all pages
#my txt#theres two wikis but one of them is a lil more slay so im editing that one#if you go on there and see the youji page with multiple artbook pics in the gallery#then it was done by yours truly <3
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today on splatoon mythbusters: is Agent 4 a country bumpkin?

no lol this is probably the funniest widespread misconception to come out in recent years A big part of it is because people misunderstood this map.
I came across this trivia point on the wiki page for agent 4 while making this post LOL agent 4 has better access to public transportation than 95% of you With all that green on the map and nothing marked in between, It seems that people have been assuming the population density of inkopolis looks something like the image on the left. While it's unclear exactly how big the population is of inkadia and the surrounding area is, going roughly off of how irl east Tokyo and neighboring Chiba prefecture look, i think its safe to guess were dealing with an urban area that looks more like whats on the right.
(side note about population count: i take the account of the Low Water Party with a grain of salt since that isnt even a real number they used. something that is more reliable is that graffiti artist Sally has over 240k followers on social media. while followers can be from anywhere in the world ofc, it sounds like her fanbase is largely in inkopolis. i think its safe to say inkopolis is a very big city!)
If we're to look more at the irl equivalent of the area, it seems the Inkopolis Coastal Connector is based on the Keiyo Line. Following that line roughly to where 4's house is lands us in a ward in Chiba city. It doesn't look like much, but about 100k people live in that area. Not a super crazy urban area like tokyo, but still urban.


(incidentally, a major landmark on the Keiyo line is Makuhari Messe, where 3 of the irl splatoon idol concerts have been held. maybe a coincidence but maybe gives more credence to the idea that that's what the coastal connector is based on?) Apparently on the Japanese side, there's a theory that 4 is from Yotsukaido, which is a little further north of the area i circled. why there? Yotsukaido means "4 town street"...4...haha
Ok enough guessing based on "vibes" and real maps that may or may not be accurate to how things are in the splatoon world. The Actual lore: On Splatoon base it's confirmed they grew up about 40 minutes away from Inkopolis by train, close to the city. That's like a nothing amount of distance.
Another developer interview from 2017 goes into more detail.
Inoue: Agent 3 had a very "I've finally made it to the city" feeling, with a strong desire to become fresh. 4 on the other hand, not so much. Rather than being someone from the countryside, they're more like someone who came from a commuter town within the greater metropolitan area. It's like a place where the limited express trains wouldn't stop at, but the semi-express trains would (laughs).
so agent 4 is very clearly, a city kid. agent 3 is the country bumpkin, from an area so far away its not even on the map. According to splatoon base...
Far enough away that they moved to inkopolis alone. meanwhile 4 lives close enough that they could just go home to their parents after battling.
Also this is something that I never see brought up. Amidst the dubiously canon early concept comics in the back of the artbook, there's a comic about agent 3 leaving their hometown, mentioning they live in a seaside town called [REDACTED] with a population of 5000.
Again, these comics are dubious since theyre so old. but there are ideas in these comics that have carried over to the final games in some form, and this is consistent with agent 3's final characterization that they come from a far away small town and had a longing for the city.
anyway tldr i think its funny how agent 4's fandom characterization/backstory got swapped with 3's all because of a misread map
#splatoon#agent 4#agent 3#splatoon lore#splatoon theory#also i will be deleting that blatantly wrong trivia point from agent 4's page
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ARCANE TIMELINE
every Information confirmed by lore or the creators is green. Everything I found out through math is orange (because we don't know months, birthdates, exact ages etc.). Things that are purely my headcanon i'm putting in blue. red represents League Wiki information that has not been disproved by arcane canon, that said it's Wiki anyone can edit and is not the most trusted source when the dates don't include a source.
I edit this everytime I find out something new!
some background that is important for the timeline:
BN refers to "Before Noxus". Before the Runewars, there were several rivaling tribes of Noxi in Runeterra. But after the Runewars they had banded together into one nation, Noxus. They establish their own Calender, BN (Before Noxus) and AN which stands for "After Noxus".
"Zaun" was not build at the same time as Piltover. In League lore. Zaun, then called Oshra Va'Zaun, was build 3000 BN, it was part of the Shuriman empire and became independent after Shurima fell.
Valoran is the name of the continent the story of Arcane takes place in. Zaun and Piltover reside in South Valoran. Noxus resides in East Valoran. Demacia resides in West Valoran.
772 BN: Oshra Va'Zaun attempts to create a safe sea-route between East and West Valoran. Their plan is to create a passage with bombs, which results in them accidentally triggering a series of strong earthquakes.
Half of Oshra Va'Zaun sinks and poisonous gas leaks into the city. Janna, a goddess revered by sailors, hears the Zaunites prayers and blows away the toxic gas, becoming their guardian deity.
790 AN: Thanks to the passage, merchant clans aquire an immense amount of wealth and take residence in the newly developed district that was build over the Pilt River. They name it Piltover to symbolize it's position over the Pilt River. In honor of it's founding, they have their first "Progress Day". Heimerdinger becomes one of the founders of Piltover. He is about 114 years old.
940-950 AN: Vander and Silco are somewhere between their 30's and 50's but exact ages are unknown. Same goes for Felicia and Connol. They look like they are in their 30's or at most early 40's when they die. All four must be born around 940 to 950 but I couldn't really narrow it down. If anyone finds information from the creators, let me know!
957 AN: Mel is 26 during season 1 act 1, so she is likely born in this year.
959 AN: Jayce is born in 959 because he is 24 in season 1 act 1. In the League Wiki he is listed as born in 959!
958-961 AN: Viktor is born sometime in those years. Viktor is around Jayce's age. It's unknown if he is older or younger though
965 AN: Vander and Silco work in the mines and meet eachother. (Putting this in blue because this detail comes from the Arcane artbook and we don't know at what age they meet, we just know they worked in the mines together) This could also be the year the last drop is bought or build by Vander!
967 AN: Vi is 14-16 during the events of season 1 act 1 according to Amanda Overton. I'm placing her at around 16 years old. Which means that she was likely born in 967. This is probably also the year the bar flashback with vanco and felicia happens :). This is also the year that is listed as her birth date in the League Wiki! In the League Wiki she is listed as born in 967!
966-968 AN: Cait is around the same age as Vi. If we say she was 15 during season 1 part 1, she would be born in 968. In the League Wiki she is listed as born in 966!
970 AN: year Ekko is born according to the League Wiki! This might be a headcanon from Ekko's voice actor, but I have to fact check it.
972 AN: Powder is roughly 5 years younger than Vi, so she would be born in 972 at the earliest.
978 AN: Felicia and Connol die in the riot at the bridge when Powder is around 6 and Vi is around 11 according to Amanda Overton.
980 AN: Mel says she was exciled ten years ago in season 1 act 3. So she arrived in 980 in Piltover. Mel is around 23 here because she is 33 in s1 act 2 & 3.
983 AN: This is the year were everything from season 1 act 1 takes place. It's not only the death year of Vander, Mylo and Clagger, Benzo and Greyson, this is the year Hextech was invented, Shimmer development was completed and the year the timeline splits into two (one where Vi lives and one where Vi dies)
990 AN: the 200th Progress Day takes place in 1x4. The events of episode 4-9 likely span not even longer than a week, so everything in season 1 act 2 and 3 happens in this year!
991 AN: between 2x3 ans 2x4 3-6 months have passed. I don't know how months and vegetation work in Runeterra, but if Viktor had enough time to build a thriving community and grow and take care of crops, i'd say that 2x4-2x9 takes place in 991 AN.
997 AN: is the year the current "present year" of the League of Legends Universe. In future spin-offs we will likely reach this year at some point.
unknown dates:
- Dr. Corin Reveck (Singed) is born and becomes a respected Doctor in Piltover. He worked together with Heimerdinger but the two parted ways because Heimerdinger disapproved of the unethical and inhumane methods Singed uses to bring Orianna back to life.
- Orianna (Singed's daughter) becomes sick and dies/is in a comatose state. In League lore she becomes sick after trying to help Zaunites escape from a chemical spill.
- Viktor's age when he meets Singed, Viktor's age when he enters the academy and becomes Heimerdingers assistant. Amanda Overton revealed that their (non-canon) idea is that Viktor's parents used their life savings to buy Viktor a Piltover school uniform. Viktor sneaks into the academy and impresses Heimerdinger so much that he doesn't kick him out and makes him an assistant instead.
- Jayce's age when he and his mother are trapped in the snowstorm. The death of Jayce's father likely already occured at or before this time.
- Isha's birthday. She between the ages Powder has in 1x1 (6-11). Since she is wearing a miners helmet we can guess that either he guardian or herself has worked in the mines at some point. She might be getting chased by goons because she escaped her workplace... chilling thought.
- the exact age of Kino and Mel, the date of Ambessa travelling through a regions where she falls in love with a stranger and has an affair with him (in the blood sweat and tears music video she appears already pregnant)
EDIT: Jayce was 24 not 25 in s1 act 1, my bad. Edited it to be his correct birth year (959)
EDIT 2: In a watch party Amanda Overton says that between episode 3 and 4 about 3 to 6 months have passed.
EDIT 3: thanks @darlingitsagathaharkness, you are right. I found this post that pieced together the chronological order of events in season 1 act 2 & 3. That is one hell of a week.
EDIT 4: I found concept art of Mel that confirms that she is imagined to be 26 during season 1 act 1.
If you find any other date or event that can be included here, please let me know :).
sources: 1, 2, 3, 4
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So is Lady Echo not half-Dragon?
I saw some people arguing on Reddit about Wakfu misconceptions, and somebody said it was a fan misinterpretation that Echo is half-Dragon.
Apparently, Mig who made the Ogrest comic, only seems to view Echo as an Eniripsa demigod with a design based on duality: angel and demon. And the S3 artbook only addresses her as a daughter of the goddess Eniripsa. Finally, the French Krosmoz wiki labels her only as an Eniripsa demigod and never once mentions Dragons at all. English wikis list her as half-Dragon, but provide no source.
I just naturally assumed she was half-Dragon this whole time given her design, especially her wings. But nothing actually confirms she is a Dragon in the show.
@mig-auteur
Can you clarify anymore info about Echo?
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In all honesty, I have a feeling Harada begrudgingly doesn't think about Jin like that anymore. Like I feel he really wants to but realizes he can't. Especially given during the Tekken 7 era, there were apparently fans who still viewed Jin as a good guy and Harada would try to shut them down for it. (Mainly bringing up that Jin is still "responsible for many deaths".) The fact that Harada, or so he claimed, was adamant about Jin becoming a villain for "15 years" (this was during the release of Tekken 6) and apparently wasn't able to do this BECAUSE of that conflict with the writers, I don't see why he'd view Jin any differently if he's been wanting him to be a villain for over a decade. I know people's opinions change, but like... he's also talked about the massive backlash he received for Jin in Tekken 6, and also the fact that every other person (including Jin's voice actor) also hated it along with the fans. So, because of all that, I feel Harada only changed his mind on Jin because of the pressure. I feel if everyone was okay with Jin being a villain or didn't make as big of noise, Harada would've continued with it to this day.
Howeverrr... it also seems Harada or some writer[s] may have finally stopped caring about more villainous characters / stories. Since as I've pointed out on my RP blog, all the characters seem far less villainous or power hungry than they used to be. Eddy no longer likes power & has let go of his need for revenge, Jin is now back to his good self I guess, Xiaoyu is no longer a yandere like she weirdly was in Tekken 6, Heihachi's motivations have been changed to put him in a better light, Devil [Jin] has been retconned to be a protective force rather than a corruptive one. Lars was heavily implied to become bad as well (as both Heihachi and Kazuya warned Lars about how Mishimas are cursed to betray each other) And well, I betcha anything Kazuya will get his redemption arc in the next continuation of the story. So, Tekken has definitely lost its "edge" with the Bad Boys. Dunno if that's a result of Harada's tastes changing or something else. Harada had mentioned in the earlier days that his own family reminds him of the Mishimas. Then later said (I think this was during the Tekken 7 era? Maybe right before) that after having children, he began to understand / respect his parents and family more. Therefore, it could be that the change for these characters (especially Heihachi) is because Harada is less bitter about his personal relations. But that is just me completely theorizing, but it DOES add up to why the Mishimas are no longer a cursed lineage and why they're even presented as Heroic now if you think about it.
I know this is a somewhat old post of urs, but when I saw it on my dash just now, I felt the need to Talk. xD
Harada is the one who wants to make Jin villainous, but his team disagrees. It did happen for T6 though. https://www.reddit.com/r/Tekken/comments/168txm2/fun_fact_harada_wanted_to_make_jin_a_villain_but/?rdt=44346
Oh yeah, I knew this, thoigh this is an old info. Hope he doesn't think of Jin like that anymore.
#strangled talks#abysmaleve#so nobody thinks i'm pulling stuff outta my ass...#the sources for all these are the artbooks - Jin's wiki / fandom & wikipedia pages#and I think either Harada or Tekken's wikipedia page?
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