#arrow 4.08 legends of yesterday

[joeey-dee]

I just stumbled over some of the Olicity scenes in 4.08 Legends of Yesterday on YouTube, and can I just say WTF! That’s always my mind’s first reaction when watching them. 

And can I just point out the hypocrisy and gaslighting on Felicity’s side? She accuses him of not trusting her and yet, she is the one who didn’t trust him, used her skills to track his movements, and forced Barry into showing her something he was aware of Oliver didn’t want anyone to know about. That screams I trust you to me. 

Especially after Oliver told her there was something he needed to figure out and he would let her know what it was about, as soon as he had more information. Yet, she didn’t even wait for him to return to find out if he was telling the truth or not. No, she pretty much stalked him. 

So, who isn’t trusting whom? 

And all of this after she had lied to him for months, worked with Team Arrow behind his back and pretended she was as happy and content with their life in Ivy Town as he had been. 

She is the last person who has the right to get down on Oliver for lying. Seriously!

And since she realized it was a paternity test, Oliver had Barry do, she’d also realize Oliver had only learnt about being a dad, maybe two minutes before she showed up to demand answers from Barry, which would’ve been a couple of hours before she confronted him. When exactly was he supposed to let her know? This was the first time he’s seen her since finding out. Give the guy some time to process and you know, if he still hasn’t told you in a couple of days, okay, maybe bring it up but not like this. 

This is a major event in Oliver’s life, and like he pointed out to her it is a lot more complicated than it appears at first glance. 

He had also just learnt that Samantha and his mom purposely misled him into believing his child died before it ever had a chance at life. Oliver was confronted with loosing a child in his early twenties, whether he had wanted it or not doesn’t really matter, the flashback to that event and the fact that Oliver is a good, compassionate and caring person clearly shows how much he had struggled with that loss. 

To then learn it had all been a lie just to keep him out of his child’s life? How utterly cruel and devastating must that have been? Knowing that they’d rather lied to him and made him believe his child had died, then have him be a part of his child’s life. Just imagine the anguish that must have been to learn how little Samantha and his mom thought of him. This being amplified by Samantha’s demands to him. 

And after considering all of this, who can blame him for going along with the demands of the woman who had had no issues making him believe his child had died in order to keep him out of their lives? In his mind there was probably no question she’d do anything in her power to keep William away from him if he didn’t adhere to her demands, she’d done it before. 

I will never understand how the majority of the fandom is on Felicity’s side here and vilifying Oliver over the only choice he had really. 

Oliver was the victim in everything concerning his son. Oliver and William. But that’s it. No one else was a victim in that situation. 

The way Felicity behaved both times she learnt about William was just disgusting and horrible and that was the point I was done with her character. She of all people should’ve understood and supported Oliver’s choice to do whatever he had to to be a part of his son’s life, given her past with her parents.

Okay, so this rant turned out much longer than expected.

This might be an unpopular opinion but I don’t care. Oliver was the victim and everyone was victim blaming and never put his actions into perspective with everything we’ve known and learnt about the situation with Samantha and William. 

[kent-farm]

—Arrow, “Legends of Yesterday”

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The second crossover and set up for Legends. Which of the two episodes do you like most?

[afaims100arrowversefavs]

33. „Superheroes in a Farmhouse, I feel like I saw this movie before“ (Arrow 4.08 „Legends of Yesterday“ )

 When arriving at their temporary base, Thea mentions seeing a movie with "a bunch of superheroes in a farmhouse". So have we, it is „ Avengers: Age of Ultron“, where the Avengers briefly hid out in Hawkeye's farmhouse. Remember Marvel Comics and Movies are canon in the Arrowverse as fictional comics and movies, so most of the comic related in-universe superhero references are actual Marvel reference, and I always found that beautiful.

[girl-in-the-suit]

Malcolm Merlyn in every episode → Arrow 4.08 “Legends of Yesterday”

“Your hate will be everlasting. Your enmity will never die. It will follow them from this life into the next, and the next… And the next. You owe me one, buddy.”

[ljones41]

Heroes Wiped Out

I swear that I did not even see this coming.  

While perusing the website for similarities between “THE AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR” and the DCTV Arrowverse crossovers, I came across an article that claimed that the ending for the 2018 movie - killing off many of the characters, was first done in the second Arrowverse crossover in 2015 - when Vandal Savage killed off all of the heroes, with the exception of The Flash aka Barry Allen in the “ARROW” episode called (4.08) "Legends of Yesterday".