#are all the coups it did in Latin America fascist or just normal liberal behaviour? Was the Korean War fascist? The Vietnam war?
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does anyone have reading recommendations that clarify the difference between liberalism and fascism? I’m having trouble distinguishing what is just like normal levels of imperial/colonial violence conducted by a liberal state and what pushes it over the edge into a fascist state. Is fascism simply mature liberalism? Is it liberalism in crisis? Can we only make historical, reactive judgements about what is fascist, which is to say, can we only know if fascism occurred after it has come and gone? I take the general point that calling all liberal states fascist can let them off the hook for types of violence considered normal or “just doing business,” invisibilising the daily violences they conduct as part of the regular maintenance of a liberal capitalist state. People are calling the US fascist for its direct participation in and funding of the genocide in Palestine - a diagnosis I don't disagree with, but if that’s the case, where do you draw the distinction between the US being merely a liberal state with aggressive global imperial ambitions and the US being a fully fascist state? Perhaps more bluntly, what’s the difference between a liberal drone strike and a fascist one? I’m struggling to understand the value of the fascist label, because everything it describes (ultranationalism, a theory of racial and cultural degeneracy/decline, paranoia about an imminent external threat expressed as violence against internal populations deemed to have insufficient loyalty to the country, a turn towards a mythologised tradition of the past, imperial expansion, genocidal projects against minority populations, etc etc) just seems to me like a description of United States in general lol
#if we call all liberal states fascist we risk exceptionalising liberalism <- point I am sympathetic to#but if that’s the case then like what does the fascist label get us? What does it ‘do’ as analytical tool? How does it help us understand#the world today and the history of the world?#was the iraq war fascist? If so are we meant to understand that the US stopped being fascist for a couple years#and is now fascist again? Despite the continued occupation & violence & sanctions in Iraq Libya Yemen Afghanistan etc during that time ?#are all the coups it did in Latin America fascist or just normal liberal behaviour? Was the Korean War fascist? The Vietnam war?#what about the Cold War? What about the genocide of indigenous people in North America? What about chattel slavery?#I guess I’m just at like a point in my knowledge of history that none of the governments or movements or actuons called fascist#seem even remotely different from just like regular imperial and colonial violence#and so like my current inclination is that either all of this is liberal or all of this is fascist#and that doesn’t feel satisfactory lol
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