#anywho I also think it would be neat if Gilgamesh ever talked about trying to rescue Ardyn from Angelguard

[phoenixwithapencil]

A. How dare you leave that bit about Gilgamesh should have been Ardyn’s shield- a *failed* shield in the tags

B. I actually really like this. And I think just the minute change of- yes still wanting to prove his strength to some degree but also being bitter and angry and *done* with the fight because Iris died and Ravus The Angry Twink shoved him Radically Changes Everything. Okay— namely it changes how Gladio’s interacting with Gilgamesh and his trials, how I think Gladio would behave with Noctis, and also carries some dramatic irony for Altissia

Coming at Gilgamesh from a place of rage and a place of Giving Up and a place of I Can’t Do This Anymore makes Gilgamesh’s whole ‘bro you need muscle and mettle’ *mean* something. Because it gives Gladio the chance to develop something he didn’t have before if he’s explicitly not able to stick it out with Noctis through hell or high water

Iris’s death I think would force Gladio to be the first one in the party to go through ‘the person I loved most in this world died and I wasn’t there to protect them when that’s my *purpose*. Which means on the train, he wouldn’t be coming at that fight from seemingly a place of not getting what Ignis and Noct (especially Noct) went through in Altissia. He gets it. He gets why Ignis did everything in his power to protect Noctis. He gets why Noctis is crumbling with his grief. But they have to stand up and keep moving. This war is only winnable that way. They need to direct their anger and pain at the empire, rather than cut themselves down with it. However you’d want to actually frame this my point here is that these are lessons he can learn from Gilgamesh/lessons he can learn that Gilgamesh never did and it can make his DLC Matter

Do I still think we need a scene- maybe in Gralea- where Daemonic Ravus or Ardyn… prolly Ravus- go in for a quick stab at Noctis that mirror’s Ravus’s attack waaayyyy back at the base and Gladio gets to actually hold his own for a sec and give his friends time to join the fight proper and it feels like a triumph over his initial failing—- yeah. Yeah I really think he needs that scene. And that would be the cherry on this cake. Is getting to protect someone because he stuck it out. And he tried again. And he stood tall. And that pays off.

Seeing a lot of Gladio hate cause of the train scene and guys I’m gonna be honest I love him cause of the train scene

It’s a difficult time for all four of em it’s supposed to be, with the loss of Lunafreya, Ignis losing his eyesight and Noctis grieving there was two choice of characters to push the plot along Prompto or Gladio and with what happens shortly after this it was best it Gladio.

Gladio is so different from Iggy when you think about it them showcasing Gladio being rather pushy in that way to get Noctis moving was a showcase of that.

It also shows the impact of the injuries on everyone they don’t know if Ignis would be able to keep up they’re hurt they’re scared

I personally think they needed a confrontation/argument scene for these guys and this was the perfect way to go about it but that’s just me.