#anyway. idk why i felt the need to clarify literally everything here but hey
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starstruckodysseys · 1 year ago
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got a be more chill post on my for you page (which i somehow ended up on??) and i’m not entirely sure what tumblr is trying to say about me
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kroneeeee · 7 years ago
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OUMA’S DEFENCE LAWYER PART2A
Yes. There’s more. Here’s part 1: 
http://kroneeeee.tumblr.com/post/166569354474/oumas-defence-lawyer-here
WARNING: this argument is super. super. long.
OOoookay, now that we’ve established that his nature isn’t to be an evil asshole, now comes his intentions. Why did he make Gonta the killer? Why did he come up with such a plan involving his death? Why did he try to be the mastermind? Well, this is my interpretation on it-
I’ll start it off with discussing Chapter 4.
Again, let’s establish facts before diving in:
 Ouma was the first to know about the outside world. The outside world is supposed to be the worst thing ever, where no one was alive, and there was absolutely no hope left for any of the survivors. It was used as a motive to bring people to despair and thus kill people.
Ouma did manipulate Gonta throughout their time in the VR world after Gonta himself volunteered to watch over Ouma.
Ouma used Gonta to kill Miu to save his own ass.
He’s smart enough to figure out that she wanted to kill him beforehand.
Throughout the trial in Chapter 4, he’s been manipulating everyone and using his lies to bring Shuichi to the truth.
Ouma did not know of Gonta’s memory loss/error. Nor the fact that his avatar had some paralysis setting on him.
Yeah, Ouma did keep pressuring Gonta at some point about him being ridiculously dumb.
He was really angry at both Gonta and Kaito for stalling the killing game by not accepting the facts.
He had a genuine breakdown and wanted to die with Gonta before his execution.
In the end, after the execution, he suddenly had a change in character and became very antagonistic. Hm, how fitting for an “Ultimate Supreme Leader”.
Anyways, facts over. Time to explain why. Why he did such things. Why he did those asshole moves. Why he chose Gonta. Why he broke down. Why he tried to act like the mastermind. Those 10 facts are gonna be my truth bullets this time. C’mon, let’s treat this like a class trial.
First off, why did Ouma choose to manipulate Gonta for his murder towards Iruma?
Honestly, you’d think it could be a number of reasons- Maybe because Gonta was strong- NOPE. Sorry, but Iruma gave everyone equal strength ability in the VR world. That won’t explain why he chose Gonta over anyone else.
Because he’s the most manipulative? Plausible. Even though, as seen in the 4th class trial, he’s able to manipulate everyone, he chose Gonta because of his gullible personality- WRONG AGAIN. This isn’t possible. If you look again when they entered the VR world, Ouma never once hinted on Gonta to join him. In fact, look at the 2nd fact:
Ouma did manipulate Gonta throughout their time in the VR world after Gonta himself volunteered to watch over Ouma.
It’s true. Although when Kaito said something like “Geez, he really knows how to manipulate people.” He thought, along with influencing all the players, that Ouma manipulated Gonta into being his bodygaurd, which is false. Fact is, Gonta volunteered to help which motioned Ouma into manipulating him and thus using him to commit a murder he didn’t do. Ouma didn’t specifically choose, he was just given the chance. And he took it. Although he didn’t know about his paralysis setting until the investigation, Ouma stated that he knew that Iruma must’ve already thought of a way to prevent him from fighting back, which was why he needed someone to do the dirty work.
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In conclusion, Gonta being his murder buddy was just. a. coincidence. He only took action after Gonta volunteered to be his bodyguard.
OKAY, SO IS THIS QUESTION SOLVED? GOOD.
Moving on, why did Ouma manipulate Gonta the entire time to kill Iruma?
TO SAVE HIS ASS GODDAMNIT. HE DIDN’T WANT TO DIE. I mean, look at the third and eight fact. 
Ouma used Gonta to kill Miu to save his own ass.
He was really angry at both Gonta and Kaito for stalling the killing game by not accepting the facts.
Dude, the lil’ supreme leader just wants to stay alive. He’ll sacrifice whatever he has to to do so.
NEXT.
Uh, thirdly, why did he turn into such an asshole towards Gonta after exposing that he’s the culprit?
We already know that he was such a huge dick for orchestrating Gonta’s exposure as the culprit by just... bluntly saying it. However, he became even more of a dick when he started condemning Gonta for being a stupid idiot. Looking back, was he not trying to imply to Gonta to just fess’ up? Didn’t Ouma give that kind of vibe when condemning Gonta? Especially when he said “If you aren’t the culprit, then you gotta prove that you aren’t!”
And when Gonta kept insisting that he doesn’t know anything-
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He became especially angry. But why? Why was he so sick and tired of hearing Gonta refusing to back himself u-
Hey.
Hey, wait.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
I think we’ve got it all wrong.
I think this trial made us interpret this scene wrongly.
Because I don’t think he said that to force Gonta to fess’ up.
But rather, to get him to defend himself.
....
Wouldn’t that look more plausible?
ALRIGHT, TIME TO DISCUSS THIS SHIT.
I’m assuming we all know that Ouma didn’t see Gonta only as his pawn, seeing from his reactions and narration after the Voting Time. He found Gonta as someone with more value than a simple bodyguard, a simple pawn. I won’t clarify exactly how he saw Gonta, but it’s clear to say that Gonta’s life held some importance to Ouma after some point in the game.
^That’s a fact. The 11th fact.
So using this fact, and also taking into mind of how ridiculously smart Ouma is (e.g. planning his entire murder with script lines for Kaito to say and trying to beat the game itself all under a short period of time), wouldn’t it also be possible for Ouma to give Gonta some sort of plan on how to escape this, making the killing game more fun?
Wouldn’t that also explain why he was so angry that Gonta wasn’t trying to back himself up? Because he thought Gonta would follow through with his plan? I’ve never seen Ouma literally lose his shit over someone not giving something he wants.
Something. He. Wants.
He wanted Gonta to talk back, to give arguements. But Gonta couldn’t because he forgot everything. But Ouma didn’t know that. So he thought Gonta was being really stubborn, and if you were Ouma, you’d probably think Gonta would be an idiot too. Which could be why he was so upset that Gonta wasn’t saying anything.
^Okay, but giving Gonta a plan to defend himself is just speculation. In other words, my opinion.
However, Ouma losing his shit because he didn’t get what he wanted from Gonta is a fact. And Ouma not knowing is a fact too. Look back at the screenshots. If Ouma knew he forgot his memories, would he really, truly, lose his shit like that? “Cut it out already!” “I’m sick of you saying I don’t know!”
Wouldn’t he have just teased Gonta with his stupidity by saying “Heh, so he’s really this dumb after all! Not remembering his own murder.” (Which he did say something similar like this by the way, only after he found out about Gonta’s error.) So can you see the difference in his actions before and after learning about the error? He literally had a 180 change of attitude.
So let’s leave this question with the conclusion that Ouma was terribly upset because Gonta wasn’t being an obedient boy.
Alright, next problem. Why did Ouma break down after the Voting Time?
This is a common problem people ask each other all the time. Well, here’s how I see it:
Like I mentioned in the part1 post of this, Ouma is a kid who strictly followed a “no kill” policy So obviously this killing game has impacted him so much. All in the worst way possible. You know, like, actually committing a murder? Although Ouma didn’t stain his hands with blood, he still indirectly killed Iruma and Gonta. And I’m pretty sure, for a kid like him, it would be pretty fucking traumatising and loaded with guilt. Which is exactly why he’s seen breaking down.
Other than the fact that he held Gonta’s life with some importance, it’s highly likely that Ouma has guilt all over him. Which is why he tried to “fix” things by offering Monokuma to kill him instead. Because, well, like they all say-
“Those who break rules are scum, but those who abandon their friends are worse than scums.” Well said, Obito.
He broke the “no kill” rule. He hurt many people. He led the poor Gonta, who has no memory of the killing, to his death.
Isn’t that just sooooooooo despair-like?
Something that’ll reeeeaaaaaaaalllyyyy devastate Ouma?
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People say the crying was just part of his lying act. Well then do enlighten me. What reason would he have for breaking down, assuming it’s a lie, instead of rubbing it in Gonta’s face some indirect way or another. Instead of saying something witty or saying that he’s such a fool? What other reason could he have for breaking down in front of everyone in the room, other than actually crying because of guilt and sadness?
Please. Enlighten me.
Oh? You’re gonna use the “but he’s the mastermind and felt no remorse” excuse at my face? Gosh, I at least hoped your argument would be entertaining. Sighs.
Well then, let’s move on to the next question-
We already know he wasn’t the mastermind, but why did he act like one?
Well, remember this?
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Did we ever actually see Ouma fulfill that promise? I mean, did he even try to fulfill it?
The answer is yes, tumblr.
You must remember that Ouma is a liar. And he shows his concern (e.g. shuichi) through his lies (idk go do his free time event you’ll see). With all his good intentions in his heart, it’ll always come forth through a lie, with a lie, by a lie. He always used his lies and confusing words to bring forth the truth in class trials, though he lets Shuichi hog the glory. Though, the fact remains that he does help the class trial with his lies. He grows bonds through his lies. He helps people through his lies.
I’ll let you figure out how that happens if he’s lying all the time. Now, remember the last fact?
In the end, after the execution, he suddenly had a change in character and became very antagonistic. Hm, how fitting for an “Ultimate Supreme Leader”.
Why? Why did he suddenly change to become so antagonistic? Yes, maybe he showed himself to be more of a dick than usual, but we already know why. So then in that case, why the bloody fuck did he suddenly pretend to be the mastermind?
Why did he lie to be the mastermind if he’s not?
To answer that, remember what I just said? With all his good intentions in his heart, it’ll always come forth through a lie, with a lie, by a lie.
Doesn’t that make his mastermind role-play the biggest lie he’s ever told to them? (Stfu about “but he lied about his talent. he’s not the leader of a 10,000 member secret organization isn’t that big” bullshit. We already established in part1 why he did so)
And wouldn’t his promise to Gonta be the only promise, yet hardest, to accomplish? I mean Gonta asked Kokichi Ouma, the most dickhead of them all, to make sure ��everyone forgive each other and be friends”.
But Ouma can only lie. He can only tell the truth through his lies. He can only help through his lies. He can only guide people through his lies.
I’m sure you know what I’m trying to get at.
BUT JUST IN CASE YOU’RE THAT BLIND TO SEE, YES, HE PRETENDED TO BE THE MASTERMIND TO FULFIL HIS PROMISE TO GONTA. BECAUSE THAT’S THE ONLY WAY HE KNOWS HOW TO DO IT. HE CAN’T POSSIBLY “Okay guys! We need to team up and bring this mf Monokuma down!” BECAUSE IT’S NOT HIS CHARACTERISTIC TO DO SO.
So by playing the mastermind, didn’t he bring everyone more together by making everyone target him? What better way to give hope to people than to get them to unite through a similar feeling. Sadly, that similar feeling would be their hatred towards Ouma. But if that’s how Ouma accomplishes Gonta’s wish, so be it.
However, if Gonta were still alive, he’d probably tell Ouma he’s just as idiotic as Gonta. Because “Gonta want Kokichi to also be friends with everyone. Kokichi cannot be left out!” or something.
So, yeah, that’s just Ouma’s way of fulfilling his promise.
SO IN CONCLUSION OF CHAPTER4,
No one said anything about Kokichi Ouma being forgiven for his action. Even Kokichi Ouma doesn’t want to be forgiven. For fuck’s sake, he wanted to kill himself after that class trial. No one said Kokichi Ouma should be forgiven. All I’ve explained was why he did those things. Do you see me justifying his murder? Do you see me justifying why it was right for him to do so? All my arguments may have been leaning in favour of Ouma, but come on look at the title of this post....
With that being said, this is part2A. Yes, there’s a part2B which is my final closing argument of Kokichi Ouma. I’ll cover up Chapter5 and ending off my analysis of Kokichi Ouma.
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piesforjack · 8 years ago
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LISTEN Y'ALL, HERES A CANADIAN COLLOQUIALISMS AND MANNERS GUIDE
because frankly i’m tired of the misuse of our colloquialisms/slang/vernacular/manners/habits in fic so it’s time for this canadian to set the record straight!!!!!
1. “sorry”
i feel like y'all really miss the boat on this, we (henceforth read as: canadians) say sorry ALL. THE. TIME. it's not a joke!! it's real bad!!! i apologize to furniture when i bump into it, y'all!!!! SO if you wanna give jack and ransom some real authentic canadian lingo, have them apologize for nothing worth apologizing for, not just in excess when they do something actually worthy of apology
examples (all based on REAL LIFE things i’ve done): 
*someone bumps into you* (even though it wasn’t your fault at all) oop sorry! 
*not having exact change in your hand when paying for something so you take a second to pull out a nickel* sorry!
*dropping something near/in front of/beside another person* oh sorry!
*asks for substitution or change to a burger or sandwich* sorry, yeah can i get this instead of this? (and have crippling anxiety while asking  just me? hoookay that sounds fake but!!!)
2. holding the door open
listen i didn’t realize how distinctly canadian this was until i was abroad for 2 weeks and felt the real switch from small acts of manners and kindness replaced with absolutely no fucking care in the world for any human that isn’t you. stairwells and doors and any form of public transportation are an “every person for themselves” kinda deal and it’s weird. i will always hold the door open if i notice someone behind me (if i don’t, you bet ur fuckin ass i apologize for not holding it open) 
examples:
even if i get to a door first, if i notice someone behind me i’ll hold the door open for them and let them go first. this isn’t even an age or sex/gender thing, people will do this for anyone, not just the elderly or the female.
if someone holds the door open for me, i’ll pass through and say thank you and if there’s a second set of doors (like in some bookstores and malls and stuff they have those little foyer-like rooms before the actual store) i will hold the door open for them on the second set. always.
3. “bud”/”buddy”
truly a canadian staple that does not get utilized enough!!!! i can’t think of a single person in my life i haven’t called “buddy” at least once, including my lil ol’ grandmother. though typically when i use “buddy” i’m cussing someone out (see examples below!) we sound particularly minnesotan when we say "buddy” which is why i think a lot of people think we have this ridiculous accent (because FUN FUCKIN FACT: the canadian accent is NOWHERE NEAR THE LEVEL OF MINNESOTAN!!! we. do. not. sound. like. that. only “”””bros””””” (typically hockey bros (see: sidney crosby) or “country” boys (see: literally any fucking canadian boy who hunts/fishes/wears a cowboy hat unironically)) sound like this, the canadian “accent” americans mock? totally fucking fake mOVING ON)
“bud” however, that’s a sweet lil thing. it’s actually very much a term of endearment, so to say, i’ve only ever used it when talking to children and s/o’s. it’s not the only term of endearment canadians ever use (ahem, fic writers take note of that) but it’s definitely one that people use and it’s very cute and soft™
examples:
*cussing someone out over a video game/a joke that i have no comeback for/bad driving/etc.* “get fucked, buddy” “oh you’re fucked, buddy” “yeh fuckin right, buddy” etc. etc.
*accidentally taps child on the back of the head* oop, sorry bud!
*s/o says “i love you”* aw bud, i love you too
AND THE RARE BUT SOMETIMES SOCIALLY APPROPRIATE: “BUDDY” AS ENDEARMENT ie. “aw c’mon, buddy, you’re doing great!” (this is most often done by (hockey) bros to children, but i’m sure there’s other situations where this happens)
4. “oop”
again, another one i didn’t realize was canadian until buzzfeed said so. but tbh i use this one so fucking much i’m so sad that i haven’t seen a single fic where jack or ransom use this. it’s like...oops without the ‘s’? that’s really it, but it’s not just for “oops” situations, it’s like a expletive for many things and you just kinda gotta feel it in ur gut, i can’t really explain how/why i know when to use it so tread lightly, but know that this is probably the most popular right up there with “sorry” in terms of usage.
examples:
*watching hockey, fave team almost scores* oop oop oop! awwww f*#$U$%*#$%*! (they didn’t score) or oop oop oop! YAAAAAAH HELL FUCKIN YEEEEEEEEAH BABY WOOOOO!!!!!!!! (they did)
*bumps into someone* oop sorry!
*surprise burp* oop sorry!
*fumbles with something, almost drops it* oop oop oOP!
*does drop something* oop.. *picks it up*
*dodging and weaving through a crowd* oop, sorry..oop oop sorr-- oop!
5. “no problem”
now my understanding is that this is more an age thing than it is a canadian thing, but i feel like in true polite canadian fashion this phrase gets used more and more by a wider demographic than it originally started with. this is basically a replacement for “you’re welcome” because imo “you’re welcome” makes it sound like you’ve done someone a huge favour for them, and i mean, it seems weird to basically say “yeah, you ARE thankful because I HELPED you so yeah BE THANKFUL!” when someone like..holds the door open, y’know? like i said, i’ve heard this is a generation thing and lots of younger people say this instead, so it could be more widespread, but not many other countries say “thank you” as much as we do, so. who really knows tbh.
examples:
*holds door for someone, they say thank you* no problem! (because really, it wasn’t a problem, it was just the nice thing to do and it didn’t cause me any trouble at all to do it. you don’t have to be thankful for this act of kindness but fuck u if u don’t say thank you for it anyway, buddy)
*works in retail, helps someone find something* no problem! (because again, it’s not a problem, esp in this situation it’s my fucking job to help y’all so like? duh?? but same rules apply, if you don’t say thank u i’ll fucking remember it, pal)
*works in retail, can’t help someone find something, customer has to leave/find something else/etc* “alright, thanks anyway” “yeah no problem, sorry!” (because fucking duh, you get it by now)
6. FUCKING “EH”
HOOO FUCKIN BOY WE NEED TO HAVE A CHAT ABOUT THE ATROCITY THAT IS FIC WRITERS EXCESSIVELY AND IMPROPERLY USING THIS TERM. here’s some things to fucking clarify RIGHT FUCKIN NOW: we DO NOT end every sentence with “eh”, “eh” is not always a fucking question, it’s not said how you think it is, “eh” isn’t always tacked on to any fuckin sentence.
okay cool now that that’s fucking out of the way...”eh” is more often used as a filler word, not always like an “um” or a “uhh”, more like a “hey” or a cheer like “ehhhh!” but it’s not as often used as people like to write it into conversation. as of right now i can’t even remember the last time i used “eh” when i wasn’t making a fuckin mockery of how americans THINK we talk. 
“eh” has different pronunciations as well, each one has a different purpose and place in speech. eh pronounced like “a” is usually a cheer (like “ehhhh!!! we fuckin won!!!), pronounced exactly like its spelled is like a question (like “eh? i can’t hear you.), pronounced like “ayy” or “hey” without the “h” is like a greeting or after someone burns someone with a comeback or ur fave song comes on in the club etc etc
basically, what you’re noticing is that “eh” is actually more widely common than you fuckin think it is. it’s not exclusively canadian, and YES!!! there is the stereotypical “eh?” or “eh!” that certain pockets of people will use, again it sort of falls under that hockey/country bro-ish type (to clarify, because idk if i did this or not, “bro” is a gender neutral term, girls or otherwise can also be bros, i use it neutrally, sorry if that wasn’t clear!) but again!!! it’s not used at every turn and it’s VERY unlikely that if you went up to a canadian with ur shitty “eh?!” impression that they would be anything more than stone-faced and weary at your attempt at humour.
examples:
eh, how are you?
eh, to-may-to to-mah-to
FUCKIN. EH!! (usually an expletive when something amazing happens, usually about sports, usually more specifically about hockey, but u knooow)
*making a decision that takes some thinking* ehhhh...maybe?
*hesitantly wanting to go past/around/through a crowd* eh...excuse me...oop sorry! oh go ahead..no problem!
7. bonus canada facts for fleshing out ur stories/hcs!!!
canada has our own football league, yeah i fucking know. all those tropes about jack and ransom not knowing football? actual garbage, they probably know the basics at the very least. if they like football, ransom probably roots for the toronto argonauts (whom most people fuckin hate, along with the maple leafs (hockey team) because canada has this *thing* with toronto, i won’t get into that right now but just know, majority of canada wants nothin to do with toronto sports teams) and jack probably roots for the montreal alouettes because duh (alternatively he roots for something hella random like the saskatchewan rough riders, whom, as a manitoban, i hate by birthright) some of the CFL rules are different from the NFL but yeah, canada has a football league so. kill that trope.
jack and ransom probably know something about curling and/or can actually curl!! curling, btw, is an ice sport where you throw rocks at other rocks (not like, just any old rocks, it’s...just google it honestly i don’t wanna try and explain curling) i know when i was in school curling was always a part of gym in the winter because we had outdoor rinks nearby or one of my elementary schools actually made a curling rink (with the circles and everything!)
“canadian tuxedo” is double denim. meaning, denim shirt, denim pants = canadian tuxedo. jack is 1000000% guilty of doing this.
canada gets real fuckin cold but it also gets real fuckin hot, especially in central canada but also other places too. jack being overwhelmed by georgian heat is probably real HOWEVER he’s not a total dumbass who can’t function in the heat. canada’s weather is a fuckin gong show regardless of global warming so like, jack will sweat but he will not melt into a puddle
yeah anyway here’s a list of obscure canadian things (and some that are just #90sKidThings) ransom and/or jack probably know/love aka me going tf down memory lane!!!: don’t you put it in your mouth,  stay alert stay safe, the talking tv that scarred me for life, “moooom aiden cut me half again!!!”, they probably believed north american house hippos were a thing for a long ass time because they didn’t understand the point of the commercial, tales from the crypt aka my fave show, the weekenders!!!, jack probably loved art attack because sensory things!! visuals!! calm voice!! basically bob ross for kids!!!, BEAR IN THE BIG BLUE HOUSE!!! HOOOMG, if you don’t know what this is I’M SO SORRY YOU MISSED OUT ON THE BEST THING EVER, ransom 100% had all the stuffies of these guys, out of the mcfuckin bOX, ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM, G2G OFF TO DRAGONLAND, you knew you were up TOO LATE if you were watching this, i could cry this show was so fckn good jack 100% loved this, idk if this was just a canadian thing but i fckn LOVED THIS ONE SO MUCH
honestly i could go on for fuckin ever but i’ll stop because god bless anyone who actually watches all those links lmao
i hope this was helpful!!! not tryna be a twat but i just wanted to clear some stuff up because i feel it’s my duty as a canadian to help y’all out, ok??? okay luv u bye thanks for reading!!!
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