#anumidium

[ansu-gurleht]

thinking about the etymologies of numidium and akulakhan. worth remembering that numidium is properly “anumidium,” giving it a connection to anu somehow. and i feel like the “-lakhan” in “akulakhan” is a bastardization of “lorkhan”

[lothricshopsathottopic]

Whenever you find yourself thinking that something you're writing is getting too absurd, remember that one of the proposed futures in The Elder Scrolls lore involves the Nerevarine showing up piloting a giant robot so they can fight another giant robot in order to gain time for people to escape to one of the moons in a fantasy spaceship

[ashedyams]

just a quick coloring 

discussion thread here

[profanetools]

i definitely think kagrenac was able to leave something of herself in the heart of lorkhan in some way, even if it was simply an after-effect of using the tools on the heart so often, to the extent that it imprinted and embedded some of her ideas and plans within it.

i think that best explains why voryn later adopted kagrenac’s motivations despite said motivations being the exact opposite of the heart’s best interest. i don’t think it was her tools that was the ‘corrupting’ force in this case, like some accounts claim as vivec, who held onto wraithguard, and likely the rest of almsivi, who held onto the tools for the bulk of 3,000 years, would have likely been more greatly affected by those ideas. no, what differentiates voryn from the tribunal is his proximity to the heart. in the heart, there lies the corruption. but without kagrenac, there would be no good reason why the heart would urge that project to completion.

[uesp]

"With a mere copy of the Anumidium, Tiber Septim was able to conquer all of Tamriel. Naturally in these troubling times, the new Emperor wants us to find any information we can on the original Anumidium."

--Darius claiming that Tiber Septim did not have the original Numidum in a cut quest.

[morihaus]

all this talk about kagrenac... we need to ask ourselves the real questions. did the anumidium itself have girlpower?

[kagrenacs]

Explaining the Iceberg #4

I covered most things in this, but not everything. Every previous post I’ve made describing the tes iceberg I found on google image search can be found here x

Lorkhan’s purposeful failure: Lorkhan was the first spirit to go beyond the universe to see the tower, but didn’t achieve CHIM. He likely did this on purpose to show others how not to do it, and to demonstrate that it was difficult for et’ada to achieve this state because they simply don’t have the boundaries (such as death) that mortals do.

The World-Egg: The universe and the 12 previous Kalpas, everything within existence

The Khajiit Tower: this reddit thread https://www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/3oh7wf/the_khajiit_tower/ for everyone’s sake i’ll spare you the details of Jungian psychology, TL;DR the khajiit are a ‘tower’ made to hold up the universe and aspects of this

The Grabbers: Mentioned in the 36 lessons, a race of people in Lyg who are said to ‘have never built a city of their own’ there are theories that these are in fact Magne-Ge, due to their connection to Lyg by Mehrunes Dagon

AE: ‘is’ in ehlnofex, can be interpreted as a state of being

Shezzar became Akatosh: The only solid reference i could find was this thread, that immediately discusses how this is probably incorrect http://www.gamesas.com/could-lorkhan-have-jyggalag-t74581-25.html

The Monkey-Truth: Markuth’s teachings, also a website of tes fanfiction writers and roleplayers 

Red Moment: The potential Dragon Break at Red Mountain

The Provisional House: Mentioned in the 36 Lessons, called ‘a space that is not a space’ that Vivec observes the events of Nirn from. It may possibly protect Vivec from dangers associated with this.

Alandro Sul: The Shield-Companion to Nerevar. Sometimes called ‘the immortal-son of Azura’. After being blinded by Wulfharth, he went to live with the Ashlanders of Vvardenfell and is credited with spreading the idea that the Tribunal killed Nerevar

CHIM: To put simply, the process and state where a person realizes their place within the universe and is able to manipulate the laws of the universe as they see fit. Often associated with the concept of ‘Love’

Skaal Secrets: Discussed in the Dragonborn DLC, it’s unknown what their secrets are, but the Skaal report that they’ve kept them a secret from Hermaeus Mora for generations

The World’s Teeth: Mentioned in the 36 lessons of Vivec, sermon 17. Vivec takes Nerevar to the edge of the world, where they see ‘the bottom row of the world’s teeth’ as Vivec states. This may possibly reference a glitch in Redguard. (as a side note: The Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild, a game that’s confirmed to have taken inspiration from the Elder Scrolls, has an area on the map, near the edge of the world with a row of spikes similar to what’s described here. This might be just coincidence, but I sure enjoy it)

Dagoth Ur’s Endgame: Speculation on what Dagoth Ur’s final plans actually are. He speaks of his desire to remove the Empire from Morrowind, and unite the Dunmer under the 6th House, but beyond that there’s little to go off of.  Ultimately this is just speculation and theories, mostly on what he plans to do with the Anumidium, and how that could possibly have adverse affects on reality.

Pelinal Cyborg from the Future: Another bit of obscure MK lore that’s not implemented in-game. This derives from the description of Pelinal having a ‘left hand made of a killing light’  ‘PELIN-EL [which is] "The Star-Made Knight" [and he] was arrayed in armor [from the future time].’ and his survival of being decapitated. While the text directly states he is from the future, there’s no ingame canon text stating he is a cyborg.

Reymon Ebonarm is Reman: The thought that Ebonarm, a God of War is the same person as Reman, emperor of Cyrodiil. There’s several theories dedicated to this, with different variants on the specifics.

The Enantiomorph: Directly tied to the concept of mantling and the Fourth Walking Way. Put simply, there are three participants in this. Two combatants who are very much alike and trying to become the ‘Ruling King’ and an observer who determines who wins, this observer usually becomes maimed as a result of this. 

The Third Moon: Two different things, a metaphorical or literal secret moon important to the Khajiit that only appears when Masser and Secunda are aligned, preceding the birth of a Mane. The second option is the Necromancer’s Moon, the godly form of Mannimarco.

The Walkabout: A concept in Yokudan religion. The process of spirits surviving one Kalpa to the next, facilitated by Tall Papa

White-Gold Doomsday device: I remember reading this theory a few years back, unfortunately I cannot find the exact page for the life of me. The Tl;DR on this is the White-Gold Tower is a weapon of mass destruction, either literally or in metaphysical terms (being connected to Akatosh and it’s status as a Tower). The closest thing I can find to it is this thread which describes the motives of Umbra in the novels, and how it could potentially take over Tamriel using the White-Gold Tower http://www.gamesas.com/doomsday-scenario-t69430.html

Jiub was the Nerevarine: Self explanatory, headcanon that Jiub was the Nerevarine, similar to a headcanon on tumblr that stated Teldryn Sero was the Nerevarine

House Dwemer: Mentioned as a House within The War of the First Council (which is written by an Imperial for Western Scholars) and The Lost Prophecy (written by a Dunmer) This could be interpreted in a couple different ways. A) The first book was certainly written for western readers, while there is no evidence for this being the case for the latter, it can’t be ruled out. ‘House’ is used as a simplification B) The Dwemer were considered a house, but perhaps not in the way we would initially think (being on the Great House Council)  They were grouped into a singular entity, rather than distinct clans within a cultural group (either during the First Council or posthumously) 

When Dead Gods Dream: https://www.imperial-library.info/content/when-dead-gods-dream referencing this thread. Discusses the mechanisms of Dagoth Ur’s godhood, the thread explains it better than I can here, TL;DR Dagoth Ur is not alive, but he is within the realms of gods and therefor is able to ‘project’ himself onto Tamriel and the minds of his followers.

Khajiit ended the Metheric Era: Nothing found for this

Parabolic Kalpa: A parabola is a symmetrical U-shaped curve. This theory essentially tries to explain why Skyrim is so low magic, compared to it’s history or even ESO. The thought is that as time goes on, the world becomes less connected to Divinity. Towers are destroyed and the gods are gone, but eventually things will begin to kick off again, and there will be a rise in magic, technology and the connection to these beings. Essentially tries to explain why C0da and Loveletter from the 5th era are more high magic compared to the actual games. 

Sithis: Secret Lesson from Vivec: Connects the both Sithis with the 36 lessons by terminology (The Sharmat, false dreamer ect.) and proposes Vivec may have written the book

Bendu Olo: Colovian King, may have been related to Olaj Olo, nordic demigod of mead. Also used as a placeholder name for the player character in Oblivion and the name of the dev’s test character in Skyrim

Trinimac still lives: An ESO lorebook states the Ashpit, realm of Malacath, extends into Aetherius. Some orcs also believe Malacath is nothing more than a demon presenting himself as the remnants of Trinimac. A r/teslore theory states that Malacath wears two faces. While I assume this is the Iceberg author’s sole reference, I propose this could (should) refer to another theory. (Another theory is similar to this on teslore, proposed around the same time, but this one connects the dots)  https://boethiah.tumblr.com/post/621058598373588993/tsun-is-the-shield-brother-of-shor-and-trinimac 

The Aedra are Dead: Seemingly a common topic on teslore. A basic concept in tes, the Aedra gave most of their powers to Mundus to stabilize it.  Their bodies remain as planets, and they can only have limited interactions with Nirn. 

Divayth Fyr was the Hero of Battlespire: An old theory that looks at artifacts in Divayth Fyr’s possession and ties them back to the tes spinoff Battlespire. There are holes in this theory (Divayth Fyr was a seasoned mage at the time the hero was an apprentice)

Three Talin’s: The default name given to the Eternal Champion is Talin, a character creation scenario proposes that their father was also named Talin, and finally Uriel Septim VII’s general was named Talin Warhaft.

Pelagius I was killed by the Underking: The Arcturian Heresy states that the Underking appeared as an advisor to Pelagius I, who was assassinated by the Dark Brotherhood. This theory is a possibility considering the amminosity between Tiber Septim and both components of the Underking. 

Tsaesci Goa’uld: Goa’uld are a species from Stargate that are parasites towards humans. This theory proposes that the Tsaesci are similar, explaining the inconsistencies of their appearance within the lore.

Lunar currency: The thought that the Aedra and Daedra use mortal souls like currency

Historic Star Inconsistencies: Possibly referring to the variations of the number of days within the year in Arena, not sure about this one

Mnemoli/Star Orphans:Mnemoli is either a specific Magne-Ge (spirits that fled the creation of Mundus after Magnus), or a group of them that only appears during a Dragon Break (often nicknamed the ‘Blue Star’) MK states that they’re the writers and distributors of the physical Elder Scrolls (however this contradicts ingame books, so take it with a grain of salt). Star Orphans may or may not refer to Magne-Ge as a whole. Vehk’s book of hours state's them as a ‘group or tribe’ regardless, Mnemoli falls under this secondary classification (along with Merid-Nuda and Xero-Lyg, I have my own thoughts on this which would be better explained in another post) 

Bosmer Hircine worship: Seemingly referring to a thread on 4pleb, I will not be summarizing this theory here because I’m smart and not going onto 4pleb of all places. But from canon content, Bosmer do not worship Hircine, and consider him a force that goes against Y’ffre and wants to return everything to it’s original state of chaos before the earthbones (Y’ffre being among them) stabilized things 

Septimus Signus Zero Sum: The theory that the aforementioned zero-summed at the end of Discerning the Transmundane in Skyrim. Essentially Septimus is in a fragile state, delving into the secrets of the universe and is being pushed by Hermaeus Mora, who may see him as a lab rat, into discovering things he isn’t meant to handle as a mortal, and consequently Zero-Sums. There’s holes in this, namely Zero-Summing supposedly removes all trace of existence. 

The Soft Doctrines of Magnus Invisible: A very obscure text by Douglas Goodall, discusses the binding of various gods

Abnegaurbic creed: An overly fancy word basically meaning religious beliefs, seen in Nu-Hattia Exerpt 

Dunmereth: A Nordic term for the area of Morrowind, during their occupation of it

Fifteen-and-One Golden Tones: A Dwemer term, possibly referring to the spheres of the Daedra, counting Sheo/Jyggalag as a singular entity. Also, the Dwemer swear by these 

Ideal Masters are God of Worms remnants: As Mannimarco is often said to be the first Lich, the existence of the ideal masters seems to contradict this (similar story with Azidal) this tries to rectify this by proposing that the Soul Carin is the Necromancer’s Moon, and the ideal masters are remnants of Mannimarco. This theory doesn’t hold up when examined, but is cool nonetheless. 

Sermon 37: Found in ESO, an extra sermon to the 36 lessons, ties in concepts present in c0da like amaranth. (interestingly on this list Sermon Zero is never mentioned, despite it being older and more interesting imo, but to discuss that would require lots of work)

Flying Whales: Mentioned in Aldudagga. A now extinct species. The bone bridge of Sovngarde could potentially be a reference to this.

Joy-Snow: It’s cocaine 

Mankar=Tharn: A theory that Mankar Cameron is Jagar Tharn, doesn’t hold much weight and relies mostly on the connection of Mehrunes Dagon

Sharmat: A term used to describe Dagoth Ur, an opposite to the Hortator, a force uniting people for evil. Implied to mean or be associated with ‘the False Dreamer’ a person whose view of the universe is similar to someone whose achieved CHIM, but sees themself as the center of it all, rather than a droplet in the ocean of the universe.

Pankratosword: A forbidden Yokudan sword technique that could ‘cut atoms’ similar to our modern day Nuclear Fission. A bit of etymology here, ‘Pankrato’ seems to refer to the word ‘Pankrator’ meaning all-powerful or almighty. 

Landfall: A concept from MK, a future event where Nirn is destroyed by the Numidium, and the people remaining relocate to the moons. 

Cylarne: The oldest ruin in the Shivering Isles, rumored to be the original capital. Home to the Cold Flame of Agnon

[kagrena]

From a lost missive, dated ~1E650

Since The Anumidium Project's inception, reports of haunting visions and vivid dreams have spread from an acolyte's rumour to one of the gravest concerns amongst leading Tonal Architects loyal to you. Colloquially known as "heart sickness", these visions have been described, paradoxically, as beautiful as they are sickening, as grisly as they are resplendent. Sufferers are left restless, exhausted, delirious, on the verge of slipping into a waking-dream, a walking-sleep, being without being, there but not there.

As expounded upon in this report, I believe these recurrent nightmares originate from the Core itself. With each beat, the Core resonates an arrangement of Twelve-and-One tones - what has occurred to the other Three has yet to be determined - that, with its particular cadence and dischords, speak to something primordial, deep in our lineage, that awakens at its call. My hypothesis is as follows: any attempts to neutralise the effects of "heart sickness" must silence these tones at the Core itself.

I am aware, Kagrenac, that these visions are a personal as well as political matter for you; I too, must confess, have received dire premonitions, strange awakenings, as of late. I have taken great care to collect information with both haste and discretion: I hope you use the information contained here within to devise an effective solution, for all of our sakes.

May false gods tremble in your wake, Nchunac

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This is the long version of my new AO3 summary for Twelve Tones, but I thought I’d post it here because. Well. :^)

[reliquarian]

hmmm could fuck around and make a daggerfall protag who also winds up being the protag of a later game in the series...they fuck up all of tamriel forever bc of whatever political decisions they made/were pressured into and get to wander around for ages longer than their natural lifespan

could make them related to aylmer. who goes and fucks around with aspects of numidium / anumidium’s reality-bending magic

[keeninghearts]

If you'd stride into memory you'd see their blood, ungloried, heads held aloft, how they tried to break us, the sun cutting through on the execution day, how they tried to make us kneel, hands where the palms have been worn off, hands that learned how to handle knives. But she punctuates, with constancy, every grisly snapshot of gore and leftover murder, every head she had to pull from its neck, every remorseless autocrat's weighty corpse. For every tyrant's neck she had wrung stood the shadow of a woman in complex patterns, equations of the mind, contemplating, serene. For every tyrant's heart she has torn asunder, her wife meditates on the beyond.

"Anumidium. Engaranthz uth Drvgóttac. Rgur-ut-Dwemerth stó ren Ntzoltinum."

The softest mumbling.

"A Numidium. Our absolution. Breathtaking, in it's splendour."

the heart the heart the heart the heart.

the heads the heads the heads the heads.

"Breathtaking, in it's splendour," she whispers as her fingers trace something intangible, like that's even physically possible. And she turns to you, lips to your ear's edge, and says the same sentence.

"I love you, I love you like the torn heart of a rotting god beats still."

"That's horribly morbid."

"I love you like time thunders, I love you like worlds breathe. I love you."

"God-slandering heretic," slip out of your mouth in a crooked smile as you bring her into kisses almost fierce, "I love you more."

A grin. A rarity to see for others eyes except for you she smiles, and she smiles, and she laughs as she gets lost in the tangles of your hair like the tangles of metaphysical theory. Fascinating. Awe-inspiring. Deadly.

She punctuates every picture of a revolt you've caused. Every crumbling ruin you've wrought.

There's no way this could have ever been a happy story, could it? Such things don't exist for people like Bthemetz.

[ansu-gurleht]

what ws Ogash trying to achieve?

uhhhh not sure. i don’t remember if i ever really decided for sure. like it’s entirely possible it was a sort of “only asked if i could, not if i should” type scenario.

maybe he wanted to bring back the dwemer? failing that, to make the orcs the new dwemer, and orsinium the new dwemereth. he was the chief tonal architect of orsinium, after all, and i recall considering making him something like kagrenac incarnate - a “kagrenarine” if you will, with all the fun “kagrenac is watching and she is disappointed” shenanigans you’d expect

but yeah, i think he was mostly just fascinated by it all, and devoted himself completely to learning more about the dwemer and tonal architecture and anumidium theory. but at some point it becamd less “oh cool the king of my home nation wants to support my research and ideas” and more “oh so the king is using me to develop an orcish numidium to take over the iliac bay” and eventually “diagna is using both of us to give himself limitless power to take vengeance on the world that abandoned him”

by the time he realized any of this it was way too late to do anything, so he just kinda went along with it. not to downplay his agency or responsibility in any of it, but it’s a very complex situation not limited just to his lofty ideals

[tardisinapokeball]

The Dunmer, shutting down Anumidium:

[ashedyams]

ancient unfinished doodle of some concepts from c0da that was posted in an ancient thread

[profanetools]

the real ending of elder scrolls is when bthemetz mantles lorkhan and fixes all the world's problems but it's like too much even for a mortal mantling a dead god... so she reaches inside of her/lorkhan's heart and finds kagrenac, who was just sleeping there all along (not dead! just chilling), but is also mortally wounded. and then she and kagrenac have this extremely tearful reunion in each others arms as they pass from this world to the next and the whole world cries for a week.

I mean yeah yeah yeah i know this is unrealistically straightforward and lacks conflict and struggle and in reality i would hate it to actually be that easy, oh just 1 determined lady can save the world, but what if :) what if :)

[morihaus]

sealing the liminal barriers with alessia's covenant created a domino affect that eventually led to morrowind succumbing to imperial rule by restricting the chimer's ability to summon large hordes of daedra to defend themselves from the nordic invaders, who were then pushed back by the first council, who fell apart during the war of the first council over the discovery of the heart of lorkhan and the anumidium, then the tribunal used the heart to rule for thousands of years but dagoth ur showed up and stole the tools and weakened them and then they had to sign an armistice with the empire. it's about the long con

[kagrenacs]

Thoughts on the Numidium

I see a lot of TESlore posts talking about how the Numidium was meant to transcend Anu's Dream (I personally believe that's why the first Numidium was called the ANUmidium), I don't think the Dwemer fully realized the dream though, if they did they would have achieved CHIM, and if they did know about it wouldn't they (or at least some) have all reached enlightenment and been able to stop the Chimeri army. So the Dwemer didn't realize the dream fully or CHIM doesn't exist otherwise you have an entire superpowered race on your hands, let's say for now CHIM does exist. I believe the Dwemer wished to reach enlightenment through the Numidium, but did not realize the other walking ways. I don't think the intent of the Numidium was to destroy everything. Only the Dwemer. Destroy isn't even the right word, it's more like destroy their mortality, revert them back to creation, back to their godhood much like the altmer are attempting. Why would you make everything godlike? Why not just yourself like the ALMSIVI did? But we all know the Dwemer fucked up and that led to their disappearance. Maybe Kagrenac was rushed for time as Nerevar approached, maybe the calculations were off. Whatever way the Dwemer are gone, (I'm not even going to delve into their disappearance right now) And now we have this big ass robot that's powered by a dead gods heart. The Numidium was meant to say NO to the Dwemers mortality, but the Dwemer are gone, and without its programmers it's gone haywire. It's saying NO to everything and goomba stomping things out of existence.