#antileopiper for ts

[laufire]

Paoge/Henry or Piper/Leo? XDD

Oof. Quite a hard one xD

If I look at it objectively, Piper/Leo is certainly worse. I mean, it includes magical mental manipulation ffs. And Leo is insufferable!

BUT. I'm not objective. Paige is my favourite, my bby xD, while I'm neutral towards Piper. This means that at the end of the day I find Paige/Henry that much more insulting, especially because it follows Paige's most influential, most intense, best ship by far ¬¬. I like Piper/Mark, but there was no equivalent to Paige/Kyle there lbr.

Besides, at least Piper/Leo regaled us with Chris' arc in season 6. Tell me, where's Paige/Henry's redeeming quality? xDD

I'm fine with keeping Piper/Leo as it is, whatever, but man, I would love to erase Paige/Henry from existence. It's not like Paige needed a romantic endgame, there could've been more variety in the sisters' endings ffs.

[laufire]

so i’ve been rewatching charmed and i love a lot of stuff about the show, but i really hate piper/leo, and more than that, i hate how much of the show becomes about piper/leo. it’s really annoying because like the ship was never meant to be so central to the show, but it really becomes The ShowTP (TM), and as a consequence of that piper becomes the most protagonist-y out of all the sisters. and i don’t dislike piper, but in the early episodes they’re clearly setting up pure as the (1/2)

protagonist, and prue/andy as the showtp. and like I prefer prue to piper, and i definitely prefer prue/andy to piper/leo. and like again i don’t dislike piper, but i do despise leo, and piper/leo. (he is the WORST). i just really fucking hate how important leo becomes to the show. (2/2)

I'd add more but you just spoke from inside my head, anon.

[laufire]

I would love to hear why you hate Piper/Leo! I found them so lacking in joy, chemistry and connection. Piper was even more bitter and surly around him than usual, and that's saying a lot.

Mainly, what I couldn’t stand about them was how much they monopolized the narrative. They sucked the fun out of the show, istg. It wasn’t all bad -after all, I actually like Wyatt and Chris, and I GUESS they had to be born somehow... but idk. Idk if the cost was too high :(((

My personal dislike is more pointed towards Leo than Piper, who I can enjoy far better without him around. Leo thought? I despise him. I despise his morality, I despise his “evil loves free will” quote (kinda side-eye @missbrunettebarbie for reminding me of that one ¬¬ lol), or the fact that he tampered with her mind or let his toddler be erased from existence. Is this your hero, fandom?? How is this guy tolerated lmao.

And YES to hating Luke/Lorelai---I thought I was the only one?! They had so little romantic chemistry, their communication and honesty ranged from minimal to nonexistent, they both seemed unhappy at least 90% of the time, and they're just so wildly incompatible! They're an example of how opposites may initially attract but don't necessarily have loving, happy relationships unless those differences balance each other out and each helps each other to be better, try new things, etc. But Luke/Lorelai were just depressingly different in an "I totally don't get you and am constantly exasperated by everything you say and do" kind of way. And don't get me started on Luke's anger issues (Tumblr loves him for being 'grumpy', lol) and him not telling Lorelai he had a secret daughter! And how Lorelai can't compromise at all and is way too immature for a serious relationship! Can these two even have a conversation?! I get shipping them before they were together, but it baffles me that people who saw how awful they were as a couple still love this ship! Thanks for letting me know I'm not alone!!!   

(I’m pretty sure these two came together, I hope I’m not wrong about that xDD)

I don’t have to add a single criticism because you’re spot on. These are all issues I had with these two, although none as bad as the fact that I DIDN’T WANT LORELAI TO SETTLE SMH. Or Luke to become so central in the narrative, ugh. 

Regarding that last point, frankly, people ship them because it’s what Luke wants to happen, which means is what Lorelai should want to happen and what is going to happen. Again, ugh.

[laufire]

For that meme---Luke/Lorelai? Piper/Leo?

Luke/Lorelai

We'd be talking about a completely different ship. I could never ship it as long as I felt Lorelai was settling, and that's what the relationship is. If Lorelai had been ALL IN with Luke from the very beginning, I might've liked it. Although Luke's personality could get in the way either way lmao. And their s6 plot would've shut it down.

Leo/Piper

If it had never swallowed the show and become a steady side-ship I might not have shipped them, but I would've tolerated them lol. Though frankly, I'd also give Leo a personality transplant. Can't stand him. Be less of a self-righteous dick, dude. Piper was a better character without him around, too.

And he should’ve NEVER been okay with Wyatt getting erased of the timeline, or manipulating Piper’s mind like he did in s6. 

Send me two characters, and I’ll tell you what the show/movie/book could have done to get me to ship them