#anti hbo velma

[light-miracles]

They could have animated this bookseries but nope.

[dizzying-faust]

HBO's Velma feels like a good case of how not to write a jerk protagonist, or how to write a jerk character in general.

[broke-on-books]

I wish there was a sign I could just hold up when people realize I'm a scooby fan thats literally like "yes I hate HBO velma. No I don't want to talk about it. I also hate SDMI. Plus Zombie Island is overrated. Cool? Cool." Like ahduahshahwhw can we just speedrun through those topics already? I'm so sick of these always being the first subjects of conversation why can't we just talk about something interesting. Like the Mystery Machine let's talk about the Mystery Machine-

[hitchell-mope]

Controversial opinion

Riverdale 🤝 Netflix Sabrina 🤝Fate saga 🤝hbo Velma

The reasons why Disney having the rights to certain properties wouldn’t be the entire end of the world. Well. At least it wouldn’t be the end of the world to me that is.

[cadybear420]

shitty last minute thing I made but I just had a realization

[streets-in-paradise]

I am upset. I am furious. How dare they disrespect my babies like this!? (in reference to HBO Velma).

Same, anon, super hyper mega same

It's infuriating, i grew up to Scooby Doo from the earliest childhood age. That franchise is one of my most treasured childhood memories.

I seriously can't believe they did this, i can't believe is real yet here it is

Who the hell thought this was a good idea? And to think it is bassically just the crappy fanfict of a terf makes me even more angry.

[csg-iii]

nobody in over 30 years has like…written him as a character.

I can’t speak for the entire fanbase, but as a Scooby-Doo fan who is under 30 years-old, I only saw Scrappy through re-runs of older shows and when I found out there was this alleged massive hate on the character, I couldn’t understand why. And after talking to other fans, I honestly believe most of us do like Scrappy and understand the decrease in quality back in the day wasn’t the character’s fault (Same way we would never hate Velma - the original character - just because of that awful HBO Max show with “Velma” as the protagonist). Seems like the old dinosaurs in charge are the only ones who can’t let go of their hate-boner for Scrappy, but the fans are ready to welcome him back.

Unironically and wholeheartedly:

Bring back Scrappy Doo. Not as a villain, not as a "ha-ha deep cut isn't he terrible joke". Bring back the character as he is.

Aside from the fact that Scrappy is blamed for bringing down the franchise when the problem was bad writing, and the show piling on gimmicks, and giving him the roles of Fred, Daphne, and sometimes Velma, nobody in over 30 years has like...written him as a character.

The solution isn't hard guys, just make him a character with feelings and goals and faults. Make him be more than a plot device. Give him something to say besides catch phrases. Give us a puppy who has no parents, who loves and admires his brave Uncle Scooby who faces down ghosts and monsters daily because being brave means going forward even though you're scared. Let him be a child in over his head and kind of annoying because he's still a kid that's learning. Let him bounce off natural group dynamics.

Also make him half Chihuahua.

[jaimeaster]

The Core

The biggest prison in this world is The Core. So called because it’s situated in the Earth’s Core. It’s where the cartoons that I hate go. For example. Family guy. American dad. South park. HBO velma. Etc etc. Yeah. I know it’s petty. But my work. My rules. Bob’s Burgers, however, are allowed to roam free. Because that show is fucking hilarious.

[lunarspiral1127]

So, I refuse to watch Velma, but I heard a rumor about the show turning Scooby into a black girl that Shaggy dates, which is really REALLY messed up. But, I found this on Twitter.

So, this might be a false rumor, which is a relief. Like turning Scooby, a talking dog, into a black woman for Shaggy to date is wrong and a whole new low. And, this show has sank into so many lows.

[light-miracles]

Such a pity this was never too popular. It's 10000000 times better than The Animated Show That Shall Not Be Named

[theories-fans-andwombats]

This is a good and accurate review. The jokes I’ve seen in the show just fall flat. I don’t laugh, I don’t even groan, I just sit there wondering what the correct reaction to the attempted jokes are.

this velma review 😌

[dizzying-faust]

I'm not into Hazbin Hotel and I'm a casual viewer of Helluva Boss, but I would rather watch those over the new Velma show.

[vaniloqu3nce]

I know everyone hates Velma show for obvious and valid reasons but you have to give credit where credit is due! While the writers clearly don’t care about the original source material at all, you have to admit the animators put in a lot of work and heart for such a shit show. Some of those scenes are animated so well done and smooth. Animations is incredibly difficult, I can hardly draw stick figures.

Can you imagine working so hard on something knowing the internet is going to hate it? Like I hope they’re getting paid enough for this 😭

I think Alex Meyers made some amazing points about the animations in his video that I whole heartedly agree with and wish people talked more about! I know the show shits on EVERYTHING we adore about Scooby Doo, but I feel bad for the animators man. Some of this stuff is just downright beautiful and this talent is being literally wasted by people who do not care. It’s gotta suck.

Alex shows a scene of the show that look genuinely visually amazing in his video covering it. Can you imagine if these animators were given good material? Missed opportunity for sure, we NEED more good animated shows with the way streaming services are treating our poor animators.

[seikotakai]

also velma is getting a fucking season 2 while coyote vs acme is probs going to shelved and written off for tax write offs despite being finished.

fuck man this sucks. i still feel so bad for the staff, the director, the writers, the vas, the people singing that meep meep choir, and wile e coyote fans. i remember marvin had a whole wholesome christmas movie which ended up being cancelled as well and got sad about that (also marvin not having much screentime in space jam 2, being a marvin the martian stan is suffering sometimes).

also please don't hate watch velma season 2, if you want to hate watch just look up reviews or clips on youtube...that'll just give warner bros, hbo max, and m*ndy k*ling more motives to make season 3 a thing. I'm not even a huge fan of Scooby Doo but i also still feel so fucking bad for scooby fans too right now...

[csg-iii]

It’s really great that today people no longer accept shitty writing with queer moments thrown in due to lack of better content. The bar was raised.

Can someone explain to me how in the jet-engined flying fuck did these two shows come from the same streaming service?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[kafkaesquedyke]

The new Velma show seems to neatly fall into this trend of tv shows (paramount heathers, leaked powerpuff girls script) that want to seem progressive by having a diverse cast, while simultaneously wanting to preserve that same edgy, punch-down comedy style found in 'centrist' or conservative media. They want the praise for having female, queer, and characters of colour while still retaining an audience made up of mainly edgy white men laughing at how ridiculous ‘the minorities’ are behaving. It’s a punch-down comedy wolf in progressive sheep clothing.

The fundamental flaw in this logic is that show runners assume the audience that would enjoy this humour will see past that supposedly progressive façade… and that often doesn’t happen. A lot of these specific edgy types see diversity as a red flag and immediately presume some type of agenda. It’s almost like seeing a minority participate in the joke (even though they’re still very much the punchline) zaps all the humour out of it or they can’t understand that the joke is still for them if it isn’t said by someone that looks exactly like them. And because they (especially, but not only, cishet white men) recognise all the jokes from things they like, but don’t find them funny anymore, the only reasonable explanation they have is that diversity is bad and makes it unfunny, instead of realising their inherent inability to recognise and relate to any character that isn’t a white man.

Meanwhile, an audience that would appreciate a diverse cast does recognise the comedy for what it is: cheap jokes made at their expense. At most there are occasional jabs thrown in at the white and/or male characters which often don’t relate to these identities in any fundamental or even realistic way. So you have this show that constantly uses it’s minority characters as punchlines and only includes vaguely progressive, but ultimately pretty universally accepted, messaging hoping progressive audiences will be enamoured with the occasional ‘girlboss moment™️’, while not noticing that vast amounts of regressive ideals.

In the end neither audience feels appealed to and the show is a massive failure. While it might be satisfying to see that these conservative audiences are too blinded by, let’s be honest here, identity politics to recognise something that is clearly made for them, ultimately all that is remembered is that ‘the comedy show featuring a lot of diversity’ failed. And it becomes harder for people who actually want to make media with, and especially for, minorities have a harder time getting any funding. Shows like these are a lose lose situation when it comes to furthering diversity in the media landscape and it’s increasingly frustrating to see this happen again and again.