#anti anti shipping

[clownfessionsofficial]

Hate hate hate how antis talk abt "growing out of weird ships." It's so condescending. Liking "problematic" ships isn't childish. Judging people based on their ships is.

[ljf613]

1, 9, and 10 for Encanto :)

1. the character everyone gets wrong Not a specific character, per se, but I think people tend to misunderstand what's really happening in "We Don't Talk About Bruno"-- and, by extension, how the Madrigals (and the rest of the Encanto) actually feel about Bruno. At face value, the song claims that nobody talks about Bruno because he's creepy and weird and bad luck they all kind of hate him. Which may make a little bit of sense if all we were shown was that one song... but when you actually look at the whole movie, it doesn't add up. If we'd rather pretend Bruno doesn't exist, why is he being painted into brand-new murals featuring a nephew he's never met? Why are we even going into a whole long rant about how much we don't like him instead of hushing it all up? Why would he be the one consulted when Mirabel didn't get a gift? Why does Julieta tell Mirabel that Bruno "lost his way in this family"? Why does Abuela argue that "Bruno didn't care about this family"? And why is everyone so quick to welcome him back at the end-- not to mention absolutely ecstatic about his return? Because the real reason they're all so upset is not because of Bruno's gift-- it's because he left. They're angry and hurt that he would pick up and disappear without a word of explanation. They feel betrayed. And they also feel guilty, because deep down they think that their displeasement with his prophecies might have driven him away. And those aren't pleasant feelings. They're painful and messy and extremely uncomfortable. It's just so much easier for everyone to tell themselves that they're better off without him. To think about all the reasons they shouldn't want him around. To say that they don't need to blame themselves because Bruno was the one who was always in the wrong. To focus on all the little wounds and resentments of the past rather than on the gaping hole that's been left in their lives. Because the truth is that they all love Bruno just as much as he loves them. (I also think a lot of people fundamentally misunderstand Mirabel's motivations and character arc, but that's a rant for another time.)

9. worst part of canon I don't like the way that, right in the middle of the story, Dolores is suddenly treated like a blabbermouth who doesn't know how to keep her mouth shut. This makes no sense. We know that Dolores can keep a secret-- not only did she manage to hide her crush from everyone, she also knew exactly where Bruno was for ten years without ever telling anyone. Not to mention that she can literally hear everything going on in the entire town, which means she probably knows lots of secrets that she's kept to herself.

10. worst part of fanon People who include DNIs in their fanfics. (Especially when they do it in the tags. Those are supposed to be used to explain what the actual story is about! They're there to help the readers!) Imagine trying to police who can and can't read your publicly posted stories because you don't agree with what ships they like.

Send me an ask that may incite violence.

[riothegreenwitch]

Your ships are gross

Roche/Ciri ship from the Witcher should be added to this list. The condemnation and hatred were so strong that they drove the only shipper crazy. I'm sorry for her mental health.

People are often very angry.

It’s honestly ridiculous how heated people get over ships of FICTIONAL characters. They care more about the well-being of something that only exists on a page than about a real person with real feelings. I didn’t see what went down with this ship, but I also hope that person is okay.

[xqueerneurosisx]

It’s funny, I call myself “pro exploring dark fiction,” but I’m not proship.. I have even tried to be. I’m just…. Not one lmao. However!

I do think it’s time to actually type and post this tho:

Antishippers aren’t actually helping anyone. Nobody is getting any justice from what y’all do. Nobody. Sucks to suck, but “pro shitters dni uwu/ I hate proshippers/ you’re a pedo for [whatever the reason of the week is here],” hasn’t helped one survivor and it never will. Be grossed out by whatever the fuck you wanna, but the time for pretending is over. You are not better than anyone else, morally or otherwise, for thinking some shit you made up about people you don’t know ~is icky ew ew gross uncomfy~

[pro-sipper]

"i want more media with zero drama, no tension, and zero problematic characters and i am not joking"

Great! Here are my recommendations:

[nymph1e]

On Discomfort and Morality

My father finds gay men uncomfortable.

He's told me before that it's like a knee-jerk for him. Something he doesn't consciously control. He sees two men behaving romantically, and his body reacts with mild discomfort.

In the 1960s, when he was in high school, most of the boys in his form thought he was gay on the simple fact that he wasn't homophobic. He wouldn't participate in insulting queer people, he didn't care if someone was gay, he wouldn't have a problem hanging out with gay people. So people thought he was gay. That's how prevalent homophobia was in his formative years.

When I was 10, my dad told me very seriously that Holmes and Watson were gay. That it was obvious from the literature and the time period that they were meant to be a gay couple. When I was 14 and I came out to my parents as bi, when my mum was upset my dad ripped into her for it. Told her that she was being stupid, that it was my life to live how I wanted to and that she needed to get over herself.

My dad formed my views on censorship: that being that it was completely ridiculous and thoroughly evil. He didn't believe in censorship of any kind. If I asked him a question about sex, he answered it honestly. When I was 12 and I asked him about homosexuality, still young and uncertain, he told me that there was nothing wrong with it. That it was just how some people were. That there was likely an evolutionary reason for it. And that for some people it was uncomfortable on an instinctual level.

He taught me that just because you're uncomfortable with something, doesn't make it wrong. He also taught me that most people don't understand this.

I see a lot of this on the internet as of the last few years. The anti shipping movement, the terf movement, the anti ace movement. It all stems from discomfort that people have crossed wires into believing means wrong. Really every -ism and -phobia out there stems from this same fundamental aspect of humanity.

The next time you see something and you automatically think it's disgusting, or wrong, or immoral, I invite you to ask yourself: is this actually wrong or does this just make me uncomfortable?

[mfshipbracket]

[obianakin]

some of you really aren’t gonna like this, but a creator’s wishes should never dictate what fan content is produced for a piece of media.

in the past, authors like anne rice have tried to limit the production of fanfiction. but at least rice was honest - she thought this infringed on her copywrite. back in the day, this was considered a valid argument to not create any fanfiction at all for her works.

do you understand what i’m saying? while you may sound valiant for placing a creator’s “discomfort” above the fan’s natural proclivities in fandom, really you’re just continuing to advocate for censorship in fan spaces.

and for anyone who is a creator, or who wants to become one - get comfortable with the rules of the internet. there will be erotic content made of your characters, there will be weird AUs made with your characters. there will be strange pairings and headcanons, no matter if you interact religiously with the fans or not. you cannot stop people from connecting with and wanting to be creative with your characters.

[hjbender]

The Four Discoursemen

[nebulo-philiac]

I find it incredibly hilarious that there's so much ship discourse in the gravity falls fandom regarding more controversial ships with people arguing shit like "alex hirsch would hate you" meanwhile-

He does not give 2 shits about any shipping discourse, like these are literally his responses to getting asked questions like this, please stop dragging him into this

[garnet-xx-rose]

Yes, I’ve done the work analyzing this relationship’s problematic traits and I’ve come to the educated conclusion that I still want them to fuck

[clownfessionsofficial]

I pro on her ship til she deactivates

[samble-moved]

post itself

false flags

trans/adjacent tags

accessibility features

tumblr live post (thanks for the link, @problemnyatic)

flashing / strobing / lights

unblockable flashing ad

buying ad free

staff @/macmanx guilt trip

list of staff + more issues

[fight-nights-at-freddys]

i’m sorry but this is so shitty. i get not wanting to see nsfw of your characters, and i totally respect any creator setting boundaries and asking people not to send them that stuff. HOWEVER, you have to accept that once you make your characters public, people are going to treat them in ways you don’t personally like.

making a COPYRIGHT FORM so people go on a witch hunt, just so you can copyright strike them (falsely, mind you. fanfic and fanart fall under transformative works) is such a gross thing to do.

it doesn’t matter if the characters were based off your childhood, or personal experiences. it doesn’t matter how tightly you want to guard them and keep them safe and pure. the only solutions are setting boundaries between you and your fanbase, removing the characters from public eye and stop making content for them publicly, or learn to ignore it.

going all anne rice over people sexualizing a character is not the way to go though.

[socrateslasgalen]

Repeat after me:

It is OKAY to have content preferences and to be uncomfortable with certain ships or topics, controversial or not. It is OKAY to distance yourself from such content and block certain tags or creators.

It is NOT OKAY to actively hate and harass real people for creating content of fictional characters that features things that make you uncomfortable.

[pro-sipper]

the post: everything has a right to exist in fiction, even if it's fucked up

the comments: i was going to reblog this until i realized op likes fucked up stuff in fiction. this is a common dogwhistle phrase for people who like fucked up stuff in fiction. they have to talk in code to trick people into agreeing with them. stay safe out there!