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i love how kpop fans love to change the narrative once an idol is accused of doing something bad. like, they could be the most loved idol in the world, but the second they're accused of something, everyone will be like "i always knew they were bad" "i never liked them" "they were irrelevant to the group anyways"...
sweeties. babies. honeys.
it's OKAY to admit you liked an idol who turned out to be problematic. it's OKAY to acknowledge they're talented and good at their jobs while being horrible people. it's not your fault for not knowing they were bad, since that's what idols do - put up a front and a mask, do cute lil stuff for their fans, while we have no idea what is actually happening behind the scenes.
i've been seeing this a lot about lucas for the past two years, and like. let me tell you. i was a HUGE fan of him. he was my top3 bias in nct right after johnny and kun (who are my nct ults). in a way, he's the reason i got into nct in 2018 because he was so damn beautiful and charismatic and cute. and i know i'm not the only one, i know for a FACT that A LOT of nctzens who stanned in 2018 became stans because of him. and it's completely okay to admit that!!! yes, he's talented, and charismatic, and he LOOKED cute and funny and everything i like about idols. was it just a mask and he's a shitty human irl? idk, i never met the guy and i still don't know if he's just a douchebag (which i don't actually care about) or if the sa allegations were true in which case i would never support him again. everything has been up in the air (literally all the evidence i saw against him came from his antis while all the evidence i saw for him came from his fans lol so it's impossible to know what is true). for now i'm not supporting him and i am happy he's leaving nct and wayv so the group doesn't suffer anymore because of his actions. will i support his solo activities? idk. i'll decide when the time comes.
but my point is, i think it's pointless to try and say no one ever liked him and that he was never doing anything good for the group when it's factually not true. you can be angry at him and cancel him and want him as far away from the group as possible while still acknowledging how much he contributed to the group while he was still in it.
#i was debating if i should go into details or keep it vague because i feel like it's true for a lot of idols#but because this is a recent issue and personally my biggest involvement i decided to be blunt about it#another example is jimin from aoa#maybe woojin from skz but i don't really know anything about him or the situation because i never stanned skz and i only casually listen#anyways#kpop#controversies#kpop controversies#lucas#nct#wayv
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Essences part 2
Here's some extra info about essences with some more typing of k-idols...
Essences may be made for women, but they can be easily extrapolated in the same way to describe male idols.
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Romantic-dominant male idols
Think: princely energy, softness, ruffles, flowers, details, jewelry
Examples: Minho of SHINee, Jimin of BTS, Suho of EXO, Joshua of Seventeen, Jungwoo of NCT, Kai of TXT, Xion of Oneus, Zhang Hao of ZB1
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Gamin-dominant male idols
Think: youthful, energetic, mismatched, patterned, boyish, offbeat or unexpected
Examples: G-Dragon of Big Bang, Key of SHINee, Jay Park, J-Hope of BTS, Xiumin of EXO, Renjun of NCT, Changbin of Stray Kids, Woodz
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Classic-dominant male idols
Think: simple suit-and-tie, neat hair, well-tailored clothes, symmetrical, timeless, pared-back, classy
Examples: Kyuhyun of Super Junior, Taecyeon of 2PM, Jaehyun of NCT, Jinyoung of Got7, Mingyu of Seventeen, Eunwoo of Astro, Haknyeon of The Boyz, Taehyun of TXT
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Natural-dominant male idols
Think: boy-next-door, ruffled hair, jeans, approachability, groundedness, casual
Examples: Rain, Hyunjoong of SS501, Yunho of TVXQ, Jungkook of BTS, Shownu of Monsta X, Dino of Seventeen, Hwiyoung of SF9, Jake of Enhypen
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Dramatic-dominant male idols
Think: piercing eyes, strong contrast, elegance, angularity, monochromatic, suits, luxury, drama
Examples: Junjin of Shinhwa, Xiaojun of WayV, Bobby of iKON, Seonghwa of ATEEZ, Jackson of Got7, Shinwon of Pentagon, Jiwoong of ZB1, Ricky of ZB1
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Ingenue-dominant male idols
Think: soft boyishness, pastels, innocence, blush, candy, patterns, cuteness, cheerfulness, hoodies, cute hats
Examples: Baekhyun of EXO, Neil of Teen Top, Jeonghan of Seventeen, Jisung of NCT, New of The Boyz, Soobin of TXT, Sion of NCT, Sungchan of RIIZE
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Ethereal-dominant male idols
Think: magnetic or alluring, strong contrast, alien-like, shocking beauty, timeless or from another era
Examples: Kangta of H.O.T, N of VIXX, Rocky of Astro, Hoshi of Seventeen, Niki of Enhypen, San of ATEEZ, Yeonjun of TXT, Asahi of Treasure
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Multiple essences
Dual (or triple) essences show how energies can overlap. For most people, they will have two or three main essences.
(they're ordered just to make it cleaner/simpler. Romantic-Gamine in this case is the same as Gamine-Romantic, etc)
True Romantic ~ Jiwon/fromis_9, Romantic-Gamine ~ Choa/AOA, Romantic-Classic ~ Shuhua/(G)-IDLE, Romantic-Natural ~ Hwasa/Mamamoo, Romantic-Dramatic ~ Chungha, Romantic-Ingenue ~ Eunha/VIVIZ, Romantic-Ethereal ~ JiU/Dreamcatcher
Romantic-Gamine: hot-blooded and spicy, exciting, cheeky, girly
Romantic-Classic: demure, poised, soft, classy, feminine, restraint, loveliness
Romantic-Natural: free-spirited and wild, athletic, alluring, sexy, excitable, confident
Romantic-Dramatic: sensual, fierce, dramatic, passionate, contrasting energies, maturity
Romantic-Ingenue: girly, dream-like, sweet, romantic and oftentimes irresistible
Romantic-Ethereal: womanly, princess-like
True Gamine ~ Minzy/2ne1, Gamine-Romantic ~ Choa/AOA, Gamine-Classic ~ Miryo/Brown eyed girls, Gamine-Natural ~ Wheein/Mamamoo, Gamine-Dramatic ~ Miya/GWSN, Gamine-Ingenue ~ Chaewon/Lesserafim, Gamine-Ethereal ~ Seulgi/Red Velvet
*Gamine-Romantic, see above
Gamine-Classic: opposite ends of mismatched, frenetic, zany energy as well as a muted, simplified quality, sort of like a classic type with something 'off' or ruffled to them
Gamine-Natural: courageous, bold, exciting, fearless, energetic, possibly tomboyish, naturalistic
Gamine-Dramatic: punchy, piercing, exciting, visionary, androgynous or beyond gender binaries, experimental
Gamine-Ingenue: very youthful, wide-eyed, excitable, curious, silly
Gamine-Ethereal: almost elfish; young yet timeless, very striking, ageless disposition, interesting/unconventional features
True Classic ~ Mina/TWICE, Classic-Romantic ~ Shuhua/(G)-IDLE, Classic-Gamine ~ Miryo/Brown eyed girls, Classic-Natural ~ Minji/NewJeans, Classic-Dramatic ~ Nana/After School, Classic-Ingenue ~ Irene/Red Velvet, Classic-Ethereal ~ SinB/VIVIZ
*Other Classic blends see above
Classic-Natural: breezy, friendly and laid-back, slightly tousled hair, minimal makeup, simplicity, sustainability
Classic-Dramatic: enduring sexiness and style (think James-Bond type), sleek suits and dresses, mature, restrained, sharp and tailored
Classic-Ingenue: combines maturity and class with a soft edge; girlish yet mature and understated, modest
Classic-Ethereal: a true timeless face, benefits from simple, symmetrical looks with a hint of otherworldliness
True Natural ~ Ryujin/ITZY, Natural-Romantic ~ Hwasa/Mamamoo, Natural-Gamine ~ Wheein/Mamamoo, Natural-Classic ~ Minji/NewJeans, Natural-Dramatic ~ Somi, Natural-Ingenue ~ Eunji/Apink, Natural-Ethereal ~ Yuqi/(G)-IDLE
*Other Natural blends see above
Natural-Dramatic: unapologetic, exciting, exerts power and energy, feline-like, oversized garments
Natural-Ingenue: windswept, doe-eyed, earthy, wholesome, gentle, fae-like
Natural-Ethereal: strong, resilient, guarded, earthly
True Dramatic ~ Doyeon/Weki Meki, Dramatic-Romantic ~ Chungha, Dramatic-Gamine ~ Miya/GWSN, Dramatic-Classic ~ Nana/After School, Dramatic-Natural ~ Somi, Dramatic-Ingenue ~ Jennie/Blackpink, Dramatic-Ethereal ~ Yeji/ITZY
*Other Dramatic blends see above
Dramatic-Ingenue: strong yet girlish, fox-like, charming, doll-like
Dramatic-Ethereal: sleek, powerful aura, strong facial features, elvish or queen-like, piercing eyes
*other Ingenue blends see above
True Ingenue ~ Haewon/NMIXX, Ingenue-Romantic ~ Eunha/VIVIZ, Ingenue-Gamine ~ Chaewon/Lesserafim, Ingenue-Classic ~ Irene, Red Velvet, Ingenue-Natural ~ Eunji/Apink, Ingenue-Dramatic - Jennie/Blackpink, Ingenue-Ethereal ~ Yooa/Oh my girl
Ingenue-Ethereal: fairy or princess like, particularly striking eyes, agelessness, soft skin
True Ethereal ~ Yeoreum/WJSN, Ethereal-Romantic ~ JiU/Dreamcatcher, Ethereal-Gamine ~ Seulgi/Red Velvet, Ethereal-Classic ~ SinB/VIVIZ, Ethereal-Natural ~ Yuqi/(G)-IDLE, Ethereal-Dramatic ~ Yeji/ITZY, Ethereal-Ingenue ~ Yooa/Oh my girl
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Do you think this taekook situation could become another taeyeon-jessica or a jimin-mina (AOA) situation?
No. From what I can tell the examples you've quoted are of mutual antagonism and not of the same severity either.
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Scandals, Scandals, More Scandals
Is there a standard procedure for how they are dealt with?
By now, we know about plenty of scandals that have happened in the industry, and we’ve seen how they are dealt with. Is this the norm for all idols and scandals?
The most common reaction is for the idols to take a little break whilst they "reflect" on the things they have done, but it really depends on what the idol did. It also depends on the company, and if they have they support their idols fully.
In February 2021, many idols were under fire for being school bullies. Bullying is a huge issue in South Korea, whether it’s verbal or physical, but it was shocking to the industry to have so many idols from girl groups and boy groups, as well as actors, be exposed. Some of the involved were Stray Kids Hyunjin, (G)-Idle Soojin, Loona Chuu, iKON Yunhyeong, Seventeen Mingyu, The Boyz Sunwoo, actors Jo Byunggyu and Kim Donghee, actress Park Hyesoo and so many more. Some of the claims were that the idol had said verbally bullied the victim, and some were more physical.
The reaction from the companies of these idols was “we are verifying the truth behind these claims” and/or a denial of the claim. After that, the company would release another statement saying what they had found, after verifying the claims with the artist and the victim, and how they would proceed. All of the named above, took a break from their activities or were removed from their brand deals and TV shows, whilst the investigations were undergoing. Their companies stating “the artist will go on a break to reflect on his/her doing” as well as the artists writing apologies to their fans.
Taking a break or going on a hiatus when a scandal breaks out is the norm. It’s a way for the company to deal with the scandal as well as to keep the idol out of the public eye to avoid backlash. When a scandal breaks out, the companies really have to take a look at all factors such as how big might the scandal get, the reaction of the fans and public, what effect will this have on current and future activities and brand deals. Of course, if the scandal claims are found to be false, there won’t be a big impact. But if it is a huge scandal, then brands and shows might not want to work with the artist and the group - meaning there’s a loss in profits. So as mentioned before, it really depends on what the scandal is, what relationship the company has with the artist, who the artist is and how a scandal will impact their future.
If it is a smaller artist from a smaller company, the outcome is usually to leave the industry. If it is a famous artist, no matter the size of the company, the scandal has to be dealt with because it can cause such huge damage to the company name and profits.
In the early days of Big Hit Entertainment, the company behind BTS, they had a girl group called GLAM. The group did well, but was short lived as two of the members were caught up in criminal activity with a fellow celebrity. This lead to the group disbanding, and Big Hit has not debuted another girl groups since. Read more here about what exactly happened to GLAM.
In July 2020, former AOA member Mina took to her social media to reveal that the groups leader, Jimin had been bullying her for a decade, which ultimately lead to Mina leaving the group in 2019. Jimin denied these claims by posting the word “fiction” on her story but quickly deleting it. K-Pop fans were quick to call out Jimin and took Mina’s side. This lead to the whole of AOA going on an indefinite hiatus, and Jimin deleted all her social media and left the industry. The K-Pop community doesn’t see her returning, as if she did, she would be met with heavy backlash from the community.
In 2019, iKON’s leader B.I was caught up in the YG Entertainment and Burning Sun scandal, and B.I was claimed to have tried to acquire illegal drugs back in 2016. B.I confirmed he had considered purchasing drugs, but never followed through. He took to his Instagram to say “deeply sorry”. YG Entertainment then followed up B.I’s apology with a statement that the group leader was leaving the group and his exclusive contract had been terminated. After this, the case was still being investigated and it was confirmed by drug testing, that B.I had in fact not taken any drugs. This left fans extremely upset and feeling like it was unfair. B.I took a break from the industry and social media following this, but he is slowly making his way back, much to delight of his fans. This is a clear example of how it depends on if the company supports their artists, as if they did, their positioning with B.I could have been different - it is believed by fans.
Sources:
Kay, B (2020) 'Here’s What Happened To Big Hit Entertainment’s Girl Group Glam’, Koreaboo, 30 January. [Online] Available at: https://www.koreaboo.com/stories/happened-big-hit-entertainments-girl-group-glam/ [Accessed 3 April 2021]
Kelley, C. (2019) 'B.I Quits K-pop Group iKON Following Drug Allegations’, Forbes, 13 June. [Online] Available at: https://www.forbes.com/sites/caitlinkelley/2019/06/13/bi-quits-k-pop-group-ikon-following-drug-allegations/#54e961d0266c [Accessed 3 April 2021]
Koreaboo (2021) ‘Everything We Know About The 14 Bullying Scandals In K-Pop Right Now’, Koreaboo, 22 February. [Online] Available at: https://www.koreaboo.com/news/bullying-scandals-rundown/ [Accessed 3 April 2021]
Miller, K. (2019) ‘Doing These Could Literally Cost You Your Career If You Are A K-Pop Idol’, Jazmine Media, 7 November. [Online] Available at: https://www.jazminemedia.com/2019/11/doing-these-things-would-literally-cost-you-your-career-if-youre-a-kpop-idol/ [Accessed 3 April 2021]
Shin Jimin Bullying Scandal, Wikipedia [Online] Available at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin_Ji-min#Bullying_allegations_and_retirement_from_industry [Accessed 3 April 2021]
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The Bias List
@avatarfantxsy @quyennie @despairandjo I decided to just list them. I need to make a separate post for bands tho. (that was a lie almost as fat as me) So in this bias list I will only list groups that I listen to. The last bias list I posted there were a lot of groups that I hadn’t listened to yet so this one will just be the groups I know of. I have a few to add, some I have taken off and I will have a section at the end for potential biases. Also some groups have 2-6 biases. For example I literally can’t choose with UP10TION. And sometimes I go back and forth and members in groups so often I’ve somehow tricked my brain into thinking I have more than one. If it’s confusing I promise the first member of each group on the list is definitely a locked bias. And another thing, if the member is specifically on my list of moms or daddies they wont be on here, unless they both
H.O.T - Kangta
Super Junior - Eunhyuk
DBSK/TVXQ - Changmin and Junsu
Girls Generation - Sunny
Fx - Luna
Shinee - Onew
Exo - Xiumin and Sehun
Red Velvet - Yeri
NCT - Doyoung and Yuta
1TYM - Taebin
Big Bang - Daesung
2NE1 - Minji
Winner - Seunghoon
iKON - Junhoe and Jinhwan
AKMU - Suhyun
BlackPink - Lisa
2PM - Taecyeon
Wonder Girls - Sohee and Yubin
Miss A - Min
Got7 - JB
Twice - Dahyun (I had Tzuyu and Jeongyeon cause Tzuyu was my original bias in Twice and I still love her but she’s like my daughter now so she’s in another list and Jeongyeon is more if a bias wrecker with Momo and Sana)
Day6 - Wonpil
Stray Kids - Woojin and I.N
Itzy - Yeji
Afterschool - Nana
NU’EST - Ren (yes, Ren is actually my bias and not Baekho. Isn’t that funny how that works sksksk)
Seventeen - Jeonghan
Pristin - Nayoung
Hello Venus - Lime
Astro - Sanha
Weki Meki - Doyeon
Sistar - Bora and Hyorin
Boyfriend - The Jo Twins and Minwoo
Monsta-X - Shownu (sometimes Changkhyun is my bias and sometimes he’s not. Minhyuk used to be my bias when I first got into them funny huh?)
WJSN - Yeoreum
UNIQ - Yibo
Everglow - Onda (Aisha, E.U and Mia are like also my biases but I’m not sure where at they are in Everglow so for now it’s just Queen Onda)
Rainbow - Jisook
K.A.R.D - Jiwoo
Map6 - J.Jun
D-Crunch - Dylan
Noir - Seunghoon, Yeonkuk, Siha, Siheon and Minhyuk
B.I.G - Benji (Heedo isn’t my bias I swear, I don’t know what’s going on with him tbh)
Bigflo - Z-Uk, Junghyun and Euijin
A.C.E - Byeongkwan (A.C.E was literally pick a bias and get 4 free for me because the way I talk you’d think Sehyoon was my bias but nope.)
VAV - Ziu and St.Van
ZE:A - Minwoo
9Muses - Minha, Sojin and Hyuna
Imfact - Jian (again with the way I talked you’d think Jeup or Ungjae were my baises but it’s Jian)
24K - Cory, Daeil and Xiwoo (Cory and Daeil were my biases when they were still in the group and Xiwoo is my bias form the new lineup)
Halo - Heecheon
GWSN - Miya and Seokyoung
14U - Loudi and Hyunwoong
ATEEZ - Jongho, Mingi and Hongjoong (I couldn’t help it I had to add Mingis and Hongjoongs uwu!)
Mamamoo - Hwasa
Vromance - Chandong and Hyunseok
OneUs - Hwanwoong
OneWe - Cya
AOA - Choa (lmao at point Jimin was also my bias oOF)
SF9 - Zuho and Hwiyoung
CNBLUE - Jungshin
FTISLAND - Jaejin
N.Flying - Chahun, Seunghyub and Dongsung (lmao I fixed it so Chahun is first like he should be)
Cherry Bullet - May, Kokoro and Remi
Momoland - Jooe and Hyebin
Saturday - Chohee, Yuki and Ayeon
Z-Boys - Gai
Z-Girls - Piryanka
EXID - L.E
Trei - Jaejun
Teen Top - C.A.P and Niel
UP10TION - Xiao, Sunyoul, Kogyeol and Jinhoo (I took two off, can you guess which ones?)
Ladies’ Code - Sojung
B.A.P - Youngguk, Himchan, Zelo and Jongup
Secret - Jieun
Sonamoo - D.ana
Vixx - Hakyeon (obviously)
Gugudan - Mina
Verivery - Hoyoung
Dal Shabat - Serri
Dreamcatcher - Dami, Sua and Siyeon
LC9 - King and A.O
Brown Eyed Girls - Gain
Lunafly - Teo
Royal Pirates - James
N-Sonic - Minkee, Sihoo and Jeonguk
Cross Gene - Takuya
KHAN - Euna
BTOB - Peniel (BTOB is hard because my bias used to be Sungjae and then there was a time when Eunkwang and Illhoon were my biases and now I’m like Minhyuk and Hyunsik)
4Minute - Jiyoon
B2ST/ Highlight - Yoseob and Gikwang
CLC - Sorn and Seungyeon
Pentagon - Wooseok and Jinho
G-idle - Yuqi and Soojin
Block B - P.O, U-Kwon and Taeil
Speed - Sejun, Taewoon, Taeha
T-ARA - Boram
DIA - Somyi
Newkidd - Hwi
Black6ix - Taeyoung and Ziki
Great Guys - Dongin, Hwalchan, Horyeong and Uiyeon
Beat Win - Sunhyuk
M.Pire - Haru
Alphabat - Code, Heta, Jeta, Gamma and Iota
G.I - Oneket
M.O.N.T - Roda
Brave Girls - Yuna
Bigstar - Baram, Sunghak and Raehwan
Gfriend - Umji
Infinite - Dongwoo
Lovelyz - Babysoul
Golden Child - Daeyeol
B1A4 - CNU
Oh My Girl - Yooa
ONF - Hyojin (lets get this straight I’m n o t WYATT IS NOT MY BIAS IN ONF I SWEAR ON WOOSEOKS KNEECAPS)
Wassup - Nari
Hotshot - Timoteo and Junhyuk
Spica - Boa
Matilda - Saebyeol
Girls Girls - Miso
Girlkind - JK
IZ*ONE - Sakura, Yena and Chaewon
Glam - Dahee
TXT - Soobin
MBLAQ - Thunder and Lee Joon
Madtown - Daewon, Lee Geon and Buffy
U-Kiss - Kiseop
Nature - Saebom, LU, Gaga, Sunshine and Aurora
Topp Dogg/ Xeno-T - Nakta, Xero, B-Joo (I took out RIP Rap God ATOM let’s be honest on that one uwu!)
Evol - Hayana
Elris - Bella, Sohee
Loona - Chu and Vivi
fromis_9 - Seoyeon
H.B.Y - Taro
Hotplace - Hanbit
A-Pink - Chorong
Victon - Seungwoo, Sejun and Hanse
Girls Day - Hyeri
Laboum - Solbin
N.Tic - Seunghoo
Target - Woojin and Boun
Chocolat - Juliane and Soa
Boys Republic - Sunwoo
History - Yijeong
Fiestar - Yezi
N-Train - Yujin
Dalmation - Inati and Donglim
Myname - JunQ, Chaejin and Gunwoo
JJCC - Eddy
LedApple - Hanbyul
DGNA - Jay, Mika and Karam
M.I.B - Kangnam and 5Zic
Wonder Boyz - Master One (V.Hawk fun fact he’s actually super tiny sitting next to Niel, Takuya and 2Idiots it’s hilarious)
KNK - Youjin
Favorite - Gaeul
LU:KUS - Jinhwan and J.One
Mr.Mr. - Ryu, Doyeon ,Tey, Changjae, Jiwon and Han
MVP - Gitaek and Rayoon
Rania - Di, Ttabo and Riko
Stellar - Minhee and Hyoeun
Bulldok - Kimi
1Team - Rubin and BC
Snuper - Suhyun, Woosung and Sebin
TINT - Mirim
Tiny-G - Mint
Double A - Kimchi
2EYES - Dasom
W24 - Aaron
A6P - Jungyeon, Jelly-P, Yaho and Actin
Like a Movie - Domo, Siryu and Joha
Seven O’Clock - Hyun, Taeyoung and Vaan
Spectrum - Minjae and Villian
The Rose - Jaehyeong
IM/ X1 - Hangyul
Argon - Kain and Gon
Vanner - Gon and Taehwan
2Z - Bumjun and Hyunwoong
Shasha - Chaiki
Tweety - Ain
Be.A - Milly
Rainz - Wontak, Eunki and Sunghyuk
D-Unit - Ram
IZ - Hyunjun and Jihoo
Rolling Quartz - Hyunjung and Arem
D.Coy - Dosun
ENOi - Dojin, Gun, Jinwoo and Hamin
E’LAST - Wonhyuk, Rano and Romin
ANS - Bian
UNVS - Eunho and YY
N.Cus - Seungyong
G-Most - Jin
DKB - Heechan and Yuku
Trusty - Haru and Chance
Cignature - Belle
MCND - Win
3YE - Yuji
Pink Fantasy - Sanga
Potential biases: to avoid me confusing myself this section will be for members that might become my bias or members that go back and forth and I’m not sure where they fall. Mayhaps they double as bias wreckers.
Red Velvet - Wendy
Twice - Jeongyeon, Sana and Momo
Stray Kids - Jisung, Changbin and Felix
Itzy - Ryujin
NU’EST - Baekho, JR and Aron
Monsta-X - Chankyun
Everglow - E.U, Mia and Aisha
B.I.G - Heedo
Imfact - Jeup and Ungjae
ATEEZ - Seonghwa
SF9 - Taeyang and Rowoon
Newkidd - Hansol and Jiann
Verivery - Kangmin and Gyehyeon
BTOB - Minhyuk and Hyunsik
Pentagon - Yuto and Yanan
Infinite - Sungyeol and Sungjong
Loveylz - Mijoo and Kei
Golden Child - Joochan and Y
Oh My Girl - Mimi, Jiho and Seunghee
ONF - Wyatt, MK and E.Tion
Hotshot - Hojung
IZ*ONE - Nako, Hitomi, Yuri and Yujin
U-Kiss - Kevin and Jun
Elris - Yukyung
Weki Meki - Lucy and Rina
fromis_9 - Jiwon, Nakyung, Jiheon and Hayoung
H.B.Y - Marco
Victon - Seungsik and Subin
N.Tic - Sangwook and Jion
Noir - Yunsung
GWSN - Lena and Soso
Target - Hyun
Boys Republic - Onejunn
JJCC - Yul
1Team - Jinwoo and Jehyun
Varsity - Kid, Xiwoo, Damon and Anthony
Highteen - Sea
C-Clown - Siwoo
Lucente - Bao, Z.Hoo and Parkha
My.st - Woojin and Woncheol
Spectrum - Jaehan and Hwarang
Argon - Jaeun
2Z - Jiseob
ENOi - Laon and J-Kid
E’LAST - Choi In, Wonjun and Baekyeul
UNVS - Jun.H, Changgyu and Jen (literally the whole of UNVS tests me)
N.Cus - IF, Soon and Euntaek
G-Most - Melo, L and Jun
DKB - Lune
Cignature - Sunn, Chaesol and YeAh
MCND - Bic
3YE - Yurim and Haeun
And this section is for groups that I literally haven’t checked out yet because I actually haven’t gotten around to it but I’ve already picked biases
OnlyoneOf - Junji
CIX - Bae Jinyoung and BX
IN2IT - Inho, Inpyo and Issac
The Boyz - Jacob
TOO - Chanhyuk
Aweek - Jingyu and Hyeon
Bandage, Wetter and Bursters I have not gotten into nor do I know the members but I want to add them anyway oOF
I think this is it. I hope. I know Z-Boys and Z-Girls aren’t kpop but I put them there anyway. I do have biases in Jpop and Jrock groups tho. Maybe I can post those another time. I’ve worked on this literally all night, it is currently 5:04 in the am. Jesus. Christ. I need to retire from kpop. It’s only gonna get bigger cause someone keeps throwing men at me, not like I don’t enjoy it tho
#the bias list#underrated#k bands#nuguidols#nuguboys#nugugirls#will this be enough tags since i cant tag every group?#here well tag these groups uwu#onlyoneof#cix#the boyz#too#aweek#2z#iz#n.flying#the rose#d.coy#bandage#enoi#e'last#rolling quartz#3ye#mcnd#unvs#g-most#great guys#vanner kpop#argon#cignature
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My two cents on the whole AOA situation.
This is going to be long, I’m sorry.
I’ve seen lots of people sharing their thoughts and opinions on this matter so I thought I would do the same...I think I actually needed to do this.
I, for the time being, cannot listen to their songs, I don’t want to...and yeah it kind of hurts, I know I’ll be able to later and i think I will still like the songs because they are good.
I was so interested in AOA even before their debut, I saw all the teasers, and I’ve kept track of them as a fan since then, they even were my favourite group for a while.
Learning that this whole situation began ten years ago was heartbreaking because it was even when they were trainees and nobody knew them, they still chose to debut like that (all of them). It really shows how the mindset of any person who wishes to debut can be, and gives a new light into how devious and dark the kpop world can, sometimes, be.
In any situation, bullying is horrible and we should not stand by it. But us regular people have it easier. That’s why I think that taking care of yourself and your dreams or goals by not participating is valid and, specially in the kpop industry, is probably more common that we think. Even outside, I cannot judge people who don’t intervene or defend other because, while I’ve had the chance to help others being bullied and even stopped it, I’ve also lived situations where helping was not an option and even where I chose not to. I think it’s part of society and human nature to have this duality and it’s even more intelligent to think how can you help the victim, instead of attacking the bully.
On the other side,bullying (in early stages) takes two roles (bully and victim) Most people get to choose who they are and wether they are going to let it happen or not, whatever you choose, you should accept the consequences.
I’ve been picked on (never physically fortunately) for different resons since my childhood, sometimes I defended myself, sometimes I didn’t, sometimes I chose to ignore and sometimes I chose to respond. Some memories hurt still, but I’m ok, I was back then and now I can see how processing them made me stronger now. That is not the case for lots of people.
That being said, and sorry for rambling, I’m really glad Mina spoke about it, she needed to release it, I do believe everything she said and I actually find it not surprising 8which is even more heartbreaking). However I definitely don’t think it was the right, clean way to do or even healthy for her.
I think this bullying situation should be solved between Mina, Jimin and the real professional authorities (doctors, lawyers, police) even mabye the company since they let the situation happen (which is sad how not surpising it is). If Jimin bullied anybody else, then it’s a problem between them specifically.
Just a few days back she posted a picture of her wound, made believe that it had just happened and then cleared out that it was from months back, was it necessary? To me, that post and what she said in it didn’t help her situation, not did it affect Jimin anymore...Honestly I don’t blame her for doing that but then again, to some, she ends up looking unstable and chaotic, and with the experiences she lived she probably is.
As for us (the fans) and regular people and netizens and whoever followed her shouldn’t have a say in the matter, we weren’t there and we’ll never be...we really don’t know. I honestly think we should limit ourselves to support Mina or whoever you want to support or believe without involving the other parties and doing justice for them, we’re not saviors nor we should try to be. We are fans, our job, if we even have one, is to support and thats all.
Something that really makes me mad is that I’ve seen videos incriminating others and clickbaiting to sound dramating...I know that’s how it works and thats why I hate it, it really makes us biased and suddenly we’ve lost the ability to think and reason, we’ve become sheep to a title,a perspective and even more so the person that wrote it.
There’s a reality but the perspective depends on the person who is living it, they are ALL VALID so...
As for Jimin...I’m glad she left, it was the healthiest option for her. I don’t see her promoting ever again and maybe it’s for the best, an example for others to think better before bullying.
I just cant empathize with bullying in general, but even more so with someone who shares your goals, dreams, and is even an important part of the team that was given to you in order to achieve success. I don’t understand what made her do something like that, specially as the leader of the group and a person who is talented, why waste all of yourself on something that is so obviously wrong.
I still don’t think she is a monster who needs to be vanished from existence though so I hope she reflects a lot, gets the treatment she needs, pays her due and comes out a better person, for her and the people that will surround her in the future.
As for the other members... IMO they are not the same or worse that a bully.
They made decisions that now have consequences but I don’t think badly of any of them, I hope they continue to be great, grow up as a person, can be happy and succeed in whatever they choose to do from now on. I completely disagree when people say that they are worse for not helping...we don’t get to choose how someone should have acted, we don’r know how the other members lived the situation.
Mina. I hope she feels liberated and better, I’m gald she is now receiving treatment and I hope she never has to experience something like that again and maybe uses her experience to help others and become a better person herself. I believe her, but no more than limit myself to believe that that is how SHE lived and felt it, it’s her truth and it’s valid. I hope she gains strength to defend herself better in any situation needed and get the happy life she deserves.
I’m now glad Choa and Youkyoung left when they did, let’s remember they knew about this cause of the time frame, but they left. If they were bullied, just unconfortable, had their dreams change, tired, left out, wanted to or they chose to leave as we “officially know” thats what they chose and it was the best option for them, I applaud them and hope they are happier and successful now. IMO, to end bullying sometimes it’s better to remove yourself from the situation before trying to change the bully. Maybe unfair, yes; but I think it’s healthier, brave, strong and maybe even mature as (I believe), you get to take the bully’s streght from them while you can get better and use it to do something else, or the same somewhere else.
Mina said that Seolhyun never once joined Jimin in the bullying, she didn't stop her and was a bystander for that, while still (generally) wrong I think she chose that to be safe, and in that industry I can't blame her for that. I actually think it’s possible that Seolhyun chose to be Jimin’s friend to avoid that scenario with her, or maybe she saw another side of her, she knows her truth and will grow from this scenario. I wish only good thing for her too.
As for Chanmi, she’s always been my favourite. Mina said that she did nothing even when she herself was being scolded cause she's/ was too young and she’s also believed to have been bullied as well, I believe this as well and it was her defense mechanisim, not only Jimin but probably the managers, antis and company staff. She worked hard and will definetly grow from this, I hope she succeeds and gets to be happy and safe.
Yuna is, not surprisingly either, probably the member who is been talked about the least, Mina said she cherised her well but was to afraid to act which makes sense. I don’t see Yuna as a problematic person and I hope she succeeds, gains strength and confidence to become better, as well as the others.
Lastly, it was said by Mina that only Hyejeong said something to Jimin sometimes and that all the others were either too afraid or not participating at all. I really admire Hyejeong for that and hope she continues being strong and making her dreams and goals come true.
Them I like, I still do. I know I say not to judge but I can’t dislike them not even blame them. With that little information I have on the matter and the context of behind the scenes of kpop I’ve learned, I understand why everyone acted the way they did.
The real truth, only the girls know (each their own) and it should be something they (all of them) sort out with professionals, individually and between themselves.
I wish they were taken care of better, that they were treated better so that this never had to happen. This I blame on the peson that chose and for some reason needed to bully her members but MORE IMPORTANTLY I blame it on the companies who treat their trainees and artists badly or just see the money they can get. They forget (and sometimes we followers do too) that they are people, humans chasing their dreams and sacrificing a lot to do it, even their lifes.
The kpop world is awesome sometimes but it can really suck and be so toxic.
Thinking about this, most groups, probably, have cases like this, I think real friendships in groups are rare TBH and thats fine, they are a team, coleagues and that´s all that matters...If they happen to become friends all the better, but thats not necessary to me anymore.
Today I choose to believe that for every group I follow. And really, I choose to just limit myself to support and enjoy their personas (as in who they are on screen) from afar. What happens behind is only theirs to bare.
If you read this, thanks...I just needed to get this out of my chest to let it go. If you agree, I’m glad and if you don’t thats fine too.
#AOA#elvis#mina#seolhyun#yuna#choa#chanmi#hyejeong#youkyoung#y#jimin#kpop#fnc entertainment#scandal#bullying#ace of angles#opinion
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15 Underrated Girly Kpop Songs That Make Me Go Absolutely Feral
When it comes to girl groups, more than anything I am a Blackjack and Blink. I like to listen to girl songs that make me want to murder men (and believe me, that blog post is in the works). But I’m also a ONCE, as TWICE are my sweet darling babies, but they’re about as girly as I can tolerate. I’m not one for the super girly concepts. I mean, did you guys ever see MINX? Occasionally I ironically jam to Shakey Love Shakey Shakey Shakey Shakey Love, but it was an absolute blessing from the K-pop gods to rebrand them as Dreamcatcher. It’s really only the A-list girly songs I tolerate, like GFriend or Oh My Girl. Everything else below them just seems really cringy.
Except for a few chosen few that are so good that they make me absolutely lose all of my shits. And I’m talking about songs that nobody seems to know like at all. Either these songs came out when the groups were still under the radar, before they had their big smash hits, or they just never seemed to rise to the top. But they are still valid and important. Videos are linked in the song names, since Tumblr won’t let me add more than five videos, but here we go.
15. April- Dream Candy
April is one of those rare groups that pull off the girly concept so well but don’t ever seem forced, like they are just truly naturally sweet and pure and precious. Honestly all of their songs are great, and it’s tragic that they haven’t had a comeback in 2019. But their debut, Dream Candy, is the one that really gets deep in my soul to that animal part of my brain that makes me scream this god damn chorus. But only really at the end. I never really listened to this song until it came on shuffle one day when I was walking home in the rain, and thought, why not listen to this awkward girly song, and then the last chorus hit and OH MY GOD. It’s a good one guys.
14. Momoland- Jjan! Koong! Kwang!
So this song comes out by some unknown group called uh, Momoland?, with a title that is just a bunch of sounds that don’t exist in English, and I felt like I was the only one on Earth that was like, “This is fine.” I was honestly in some I Am Legend universe where instead of me being the only living person on Earth, I was the only one that liked Momoland’s debut. As time went on Momoland started putting out what is pretty much some of the worst K-Pop that exists (I mean, have you SEEN the video for Wonderful Love? Try not to cringe challenge) and sadly enough this group just faded into obscurity and never had any huge, Earth shattering hits or anything.
13. DIA- My Friend’s Boyfriend
On paper this song is awful. I mean it’s a song about being a petty bitch who has decided to steal their friend’s boyfriend, hence the title. Also the song ads cute little quirks like *squints eyes to read this metaphorical paper closer* coughing. Also the video has an unnecessarily long intro. But believe me when I tell you that this is an absolute slapper.
12. Gugudan- Wonderland
It’s a crime that Gugudan has never really hit it off, even with two I.O.I members. Their debut has this amazing Little Mermaid concept and believe me when I tell you that this chorus is best when screamed at the top of your lungs. After all the screaming I am basically in a manic state by the la la la’s.
11. LOONA 1/3- Love&Live
You’ll notice that the main theme of this list is that the choruses are absolute fire. But this one comes in and basically knocks the wind out of me with sweetness, like some kind of aegyo Kool-Aid man. It’s really the music that does it for me in this one, along with the melody, along with Heejin’s perfect high note. If this song doesn’t make you smile then you are a robot, like ViVi.
10. Shannon Williams- Why Why
If Ant and/or Dec were here, they would hear this song and definitely say that Britain’s Got Talent. Shannon is the British IU,hands down, undeniably, I will not be taking questions at this time. But it’s very sad that her career was nonexistent after this came out. Was it the fact that this features a sixteen-year-old grinding against faceless boys? Or that this video widely revolves around her intensely stalking someone? It can’t be the song because that is perfect.
9. AOA- Bingle Bangle
Okay so some history for those non-Elvises out there. AOA was THE HOTTEST girl group for a good minute, with so many timeless collaborations with the Brave Brothers that really changed the shape of female K-Pop for a while. And then ChoA left the group. And without the only member who could actually sing the face of the group, AOA kind of went quiet, save for a few Jimin solo songs. Then AOA came back with a new sound, and while everyone else thought it was terrible, I thought it was a bop! And I love the video and the concept! And the dance for this is so fun. Bingle Bangle is a real yes for me dawg. It’s only too bad that they lost yet another member and their concept was handed off to FNC’s new girl group. Speaking of which...
8. Cherry Bullet- Really Really
Yeah so they literally gave this entire “girls in a video game but it’s fun and cute” concept to Cherry Bullet, and they hit the ground running with it. This comeback in particular is my favorite of theirs because it hits one of my favorite pop music tropes: Having A Funky Instrumental Chorus, Only At The End To Put Words Over The Music. It ticks all my boxes.
7. Rainbow- Whoo
If you ever wanted to hear a song that made you scream “RAAAAIIINBOOW AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!” then this is it. At this point in this list we start to hear the songs that make me truly insane, and this song absolutely destroys me. It’s really sad, however, that this is basically Rainbow’s swan song, as it was their last song before disbandment.
6. Matilda- Macarena
I bet you haven’t even HEARD of Matilda. I bet you didn’t even KNOW that MATILDA just DISBANDED a FEW MONTHS AGO because ALL THEIR SONGS WERE BAD except for THIS ONE which is just full of CHAOTIC GOOD ENERGY and if you don’t ENJOY THIS then GET OFF MY LAWN.
5. Berry Good- Angel
Berry Good was destined to be one of those girl groups, like Matilda, that came from a tiny company and was just given bad songs and were set up to fail. So they crowdfunded, and somehow made two incredible comebacks, Don’t Believe (which is a whole other story that we won’t get into today, but it’s an amazing song that you should check out) and prior to that, Angel. I don’t even know where to begin with this song because it literally makes me forget who I am and why I exist. It’s a banger?? This song starts off so soft and pure and jumps right into a chorus that makes you bang your head and scream “I TAKE A CHANCE, YOU NEVER KNOW” as loud as possible. And right when you think you can’t take it anymore, that you are gasping for air because you are drowning in perfection, THEY GO EVEN HARDER. Like, girls, you did not need to go that hard. Holy shit. They go full IU in Good Day. I don’t know why we were blessed with this, especially since after this all their other songs have been garbage, and they’ve been so unsuccessful that they lost their strongest member and they’re heading for disbandment. But we have this gem, and I’m thankful for it.
4. 4Minute- Heart To Heart
Back when 4Minute was just another 2NE1 clone, trying to compete in the market of “Girls Who Look Tough But Are Actually Sweet” 4Minute, aka The HyunA Group, put out this. Third Geners, this is what Second Gen was all about. This is the meaning of Christmas, Charlie Brown. This song is everything. It’s perfect. And it’s too bad that 4Minute didn’t really stick with this sound, but also not, since with their more mature concept they wound up getting pretty famous once Park Bom... I mean, we’re not gonna talk about it.
3. Hyolyn- Bae
Okay so I know that Hyolyn as an entity is not technically considered underrated, but her entire solo career is being slept on and I don’t understand. With Sistar gone, and now Red Velvet carrying the torch for summer anthems, Hyolyn doesn’t necessarily have to give us one of the best summer songs of all time but she did. Every second of this song to me is perfect. And yeah okay I’ll admit it, I am a Gay, I am attracted to women, and Hyolyn is a lot of. A lot of wow. She and HyunA are exactly my type, and this video is a lot. But the SONG you guys. It’s so much that I told even regular people who listen to English music to listen to this song. They didn’t, of course, because the world doesn’t appreciate Hyolyn like I would, I mean like I do as a fan and nothing else. This song was my summer anthem in 2018, Power Up wishes it was this good.
2. BESTie- Thank U Very Much
One of the things that really got me into K-Pop during the Second Gen was that it sounded so much like pop music from my youth. This is gonna sound weird, but I grew up in a Wiccan Neo-Pagan household where 90% of the music we listened to was traditional Celtic or New Age, and if it was ever anything else it was like The Beatles (my Mom and her sisters were one of those screaming and fainting Beatles fans, the trait that was clearly passed down to me, based on what happened when I saw G-Dragon live, but that’s another story) or ABBA, or any kind of British/European pop/rock from the 70s or 80s. So once I was old enough to really find out what kind of music I liked, I dived deep into cheesy pop songs like S Club 7, Britney Spears, and the like. But I always had a soft spot for ABBA. The melodies, the music, the strange lyrics that didn’t really make sense or weren’t quite grammatically correct but it worked. I feel like that love for obscure pop, along with the 90s and early 2000s bubblegum pop, pushed me right into the K-Pop scene. And this song is the best example of that kind of weird melody with oddly used English words, but it works in the best way. The chorus of this song sounds like it was written by ABBA. The ending of this song is transcendent. Tell me you can’t picture a Korean Meryl Streep in overalls singing the ending of this song while dancing on a beach. This song makes me lose all my shits. But I do have to say that this video is uh, Not Good, especially compared with how amazing the song is. But these underrated bottom of the barrel groups don’t have much to work with in the first place, so we can’t really fault them. This song holds up, and is going to hold up for a very long time. I stan.
1. Laboum- Shooting Love
So like I said before, I don’t typically like the super sugary, super tacky, super girly girl concepts. BUT I LOVE LABOUM. ALL their girly sweet songs are AMAZING. They somehow get everything right, in their own unique way. They’re not at all like “Oh, they’re like GFriend”, “Oh, that’s like Lovelyz” or anything, if you get what I’m saying. Laboum had their own cheesy yet perfect style of girly. Aalow Aalow: A CLASSIC. Journey To Atlantis: A CLASSIC. Hwi Hwi: A CLASSIC. Only U: YES YOU GUESS IT, CLASSIC. Sugar Sugar: DON’T MAKE ME SAY IT AGAIN. I could have made this whole list with just Laboum songs. So I made myself pick one by listening to as many old Laboum songs as I could before I would become an absolutely menace to society, as I am not responsible for my actions after listening to so much girly perfectlon at once. If I was arrested and went to court for I dunno, causing distress and mayhem to the citizens of my city, my lawyer would call it “the Laboum defense.” “You see, Your Honor, my client listened to a lot of Laboum songs, and lost control of themselves and became an entity, a ball of energy, a comet destroying everything in its path while screaming cheesy Korean lyrics.” And I would be set free, of course, because who wouldn’t lose themselves completely to the power of Laboum? But anyway I picked Shooting Love, as it puts me in a manic state from the very intro until the last second. And let me just say now that I deeply mourn this old Laboum, as they came back in 2018 with a new concept that makes them sound lobotomized compared to their old sound. Like slow R&B is fine, but compared to this it’s drab and slow and dull and I hate it. I Hate It. Bring back cute Laboum in 2020, or at least study Apink if you want to see how to properly change an aging cute group into a mature group. I could go on, but now I have the urge to listen to more Laboum. You’ll see me on the evening news tonight, I’m sure.
anyway 안녕
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11 questions tag~ (again)
ayeeee i was tagged back by these binches and this is what i have to say i love you all these were all great questions i had a great time but we need a hard set squad name i vote either “get emma to love stray kids squad” or “god tier squad” idk man let’s do it and wonkwanhaojosh is too damn much and it messes w the wonankwan vibe that has a flow what is wonkwanhaojosh even okay any way
sister’s q’s @yongpal-i
1. Make a 10-song playlist for your current mood. this playlist which is basically a condensed version of this playlist.
2. What vine do you quote the most? idk man you’d know better than me? maybe it’s an avacado thanks? OH FUCK IT’S I WANT TO SEE MY LITTLE BOY OR “hwhat?”
3. What do you value most in a friend? loyalty and humor!
4. If you could learn any kpop choreography instantly, what would you learn? umm legit so many you know me haaaaaaa but maybe dream in a dream by ten bc that is some lit shit... or coloring book by omg or love cherry motion by choerry bc i’ve been meaning to learn them for so long.. OH FRICK MY FIRST AND LAST THO?? i mean i kinda know all the moves but can i do them? no... idk i legit have a list of dances to learn on my phone there’s literally like 40 rip
5. If you go to your Tumblr activity page, who does it say is your “number one fan?” @s-lay-ing :D then @strawberryboo :D then @lipstick-chathao :D then @justsomekpopstuff :D so many blessed faves! but sorry i haven’t been on in 800 years?
6. What is your ideal clothing style? ummm comfy is my style but i wish i could be like.. chic comfy tbh
7. What is your favorite Snapchat filter? the one w the hearts bc i have a lot of love to give
8. What subject would you like to study, but wouldn’t necessarily want to make a career out of? (for example: I really want to learn about botany!) um all languages??? ever?? i mean they will help me w my career tho idk
9. Would you rather be constantly half an hour early to everything, or constantly 15 minutes late? i mean.. i’m always late but i wish i was that early person so yeah
10. Would you rather have a single day to spend with your top bias or a week to spend with your number 2 bias? um?? an attack?? so yes i would rather spend a day w wonu??? ofc?? but my dilemma is that if i think logically maybe i should go for jaehyun for a week? bc english?? like w wonu we wouldn’t be able to talk which would be so sad:(
11. If you could bring back any disbanded OR inactive group, who would you bring back? umMMMM WONDER GIRLS??? but on the other hand that brought us gashina sigh... maybe uniq just so you can pull yourself together tbh
jamie’s q’s @indiepoptime
1) If you could only listen to one song for the rest of your life what would it be and why? pretty u!!!!!!! bc!!!! it’s like one of my favorite songs ever? but also when you love someone that’s an ult fave for me as well.. idk man
2) If you were in a kpop group what would your group be called and what would your fandom name be? i have a vision w ideas from the minds of @strawberryboo and @yongpal-i and @lipstick-chathao okay so our groups would be BINCH and me and emma would have a subunit called SMAE... our fans would be BONCHES and specific mir stans would be mirbles thank you
3) If you could acquire mastery over ONE skill instantly, what would you pick and why? um i say languages every fucking time for these things so... i’ll say how to talk to people without looking like an idiot that’s be cool
4) First reaction if you spotted your favorite celebrity on the street? i’d probably try to act chill on the outside and then go home and cry akfdjhgfdk idk if i’d try to talk to them?? or just like?? admire them from a distance?? idk i might say hello and tell them i love them
5) First reaction if your favorite celebrity followed you on your favorite social media site? delete EVERYTHING but like also maybe i’d just like post a bunch of positive love things actually bc!! they’d actually see it!!
6) Snap your fingers and you get to steal your favorite outfit off of a kpop idol. What outfit do you pick, off of whom, and why? well everyone know i’m a hO for wonu’s let’s dance boom boom sweater i think?? wHY IS THE PICTURE SO BIG AHHAHAHAHAHAHA
also a big fan of all of chungha’s outfits from why don’t you know if i could pull them off!
7) If you were to get a painless tattoo that you could remove with the press of a button, what would you get and where would you get it? ohhh part of the reason i won’t get a tattoo is that i am very indecisive and have no idea what i’d get! but maybe something on my side or on my wrist if it was painless? bc wrists are very sensitive.. i’d get smth simple probably maybe flowers or a quote or lyrics? i’m not sure but probably colorless and minimal!
8) What is your most prized possession? maybe my computer? or my camera? i’m not a super materialistic person i don’t think but as long as i have friends and memories that’s what i care abt:D
9) What’s a YouTube/online challenge that you have always wanted to try? literally so many! before kpop i was really really REALLY into youtube ajdkghf i’d maybe try to who knows you better sister or best friend? i like all the bf ones as well but i don’t have one ahhhhhh maybe i’d do vlogmas ahahha
10) You get a guarantee that your favorite celebrity will see your social media post but you only get 100 characters. What do you say to them? i’d tell them i love them and support them no matter what they do! and that they should stay happy and healthy and their well being comes before anyone else’s.
11) You wake up in your dream room. What does it look like? LITERALLY BLACKPINK HOUSE LIKE DID YOU SEEEEE IT but i’d have big windows bc i like natural light! i’d want some nice pictures up and a rlly soft bedspread maybe w a cool headboard? idk something that looks clean and open!
emma’s q’s @strawberryboo
1. if you had to chose one kpop stage outfit to wear for the rest of your life which would you choose? umm okay soo i’ll say jimin hopeless love just bc like damn how epic would i be all the time and also i think i’m tall enough to fill it out
i also think n.flying’s recent outfits are very fun!! and anything wonpil has worn onstage is prime
2. favorite music video aesthetic? any of loona’s mvs?? or gashina like everyone talks abt the dance but everything abt that mv is me sorry to break it to you
3. Group you are most excited for in 2018? for debut? stray kids or loona!! but also the unit and mixnine groups?? idk what’s gonna be the outcome but i’m hoping for like jbj level tier to come out at somepoint idk
4. Recommend me some underrated kpop songs/groups? um! i aways struggle reccing you songs jkdhs but i’ll rec you i’m jelly baby by aoa cream aoa isn’t necessarily underrated but the members in the subunit are! also dawon stars in the mv so i thought you’d enjoy! also deepened by brave girls i’m not sure if you’ve ever listened to rollin’ either tbh??? but that’s them doing a fun lil dp and being cute af!! um omg these are all gonna be gg tbh and i’m not even super sure what you’ve heard and haven’t heard???? so here’s a few: why don’t you say by playback (a jam) i think i love you by sonamoo (one of my fave songs ever rlly) fri. sat. sun. by dalshabet (they didn’t used to be underrated but there old mvs have nearly 5 times the amount that their new one does so?? a crime???) she’s mine by vav (tbh i love all their songs like so so much they have the best jams) 1 2 3 by b.i.g (two are on the unit my babies) woo by imfact (if you haven’t seen this video have you truly lived?) and rescue by younha (i just found this song and have listened to it a lot lately!!) k idk if most of these are considered underrated but it’s fine enjoy binch
5. If you could join any group other than your bias group who would you join and why? maybe monsta??? just bc??? they’re all best boys?? but also maybe the boyz bc so many 98 liners!! oh or gfriend bc 98 line squad and dance wow i’d have a good time idk i’ll join all the groups really
6. Favorite soloist? and some song recs? !!!! i think you know all my fave soloists tho?? i’m a big fan of hyuna, jay park and jimin/jamie park and you’ve also gotten me pretty into heize too ajkfdhdk but i’ve been really digging suran’s wine i think you’ve maybe not heard that one possibly? OH AND SAM KIM I FORGOT but i think we discussed that you listened to all his stuff too akjdfhfg my fave rn is mama don’t worry!
7. Childhood Story? (thanks Cloud) k well now i gotta think of another.. oh here’s a fun one: so when we were still potty training our grandma would give us an mnm when we used the bathroom by ourselves.. so one time i found an brown mnm on the floor of our kitchen and was like ayeee a snack and then i ate it and it was a bug and my grandma just stuck my head under the sink and tried to rinse my mouth out lemme tell you he wasn’t a tasty bug at all
8. Were you in any fandoms before you got into kpop, if so what were they? yeeeee as i said early in this tag i was super super into youtube right before kpop! it was mainly junior year i think? and senior? but um before that i was a bit into 5sos and before that i was superrr into one direction haha but tbh before kpop i wasn’t really involved in the fandom at all like i made my tumblr for kpop and i had a one direction insta (one_directionxoxoxox bitches) but i didn’t rlly talk to anyone lol and it was trash
9. Favorite Comeback/debut of 2017? uMMMM okay so comeback is gotta be my first and last not sorry abt it... and debut i’ll say pristin bc wow it was rlly a masterpiece
10. astrological sign? Myers Briggs type? Hogwarts House (I’m a Gemini, infp, and Gryffindor) cancer sun/leo rising/scorpio moon? idk what all the important ones are tbh; intj; ravenclaw/gryffindor ayeee
11. Random question but what are your favorite names? um i used to have a list of all my favorite names on my old ass ipod touch but i rlly like names they have hard i sounds like isla and lila and stuff? and boys names i like gregory and josef a lot and idk why bc they’re rly basic ajfhkd i also like more gender neutral names like grey and baguette
k i’m done and i won’t tag anyone bc i am lazy but if you wanna do it i wrote out questions here and you can answer those and say i tagged you:)
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Shifts in K-pop: masculinity and feminity.
The Chuyun Oh reading “Queering Spectatorship in K-pop: The Androgynous Male Dancing Body and Western Female Fandom” starts off with the visualization, “with romantic background music, a male dancer rips his shirt open. Inside of the shirt, he wears a white cropped, strappy vest that barely covers his nipples. This feminine, decorative vest is in stark contrast to his tanned muscular body.” This juxtaposition that is so specifically and vividly described is actually very present in many boy idol groups today. To be able pull off an aesthetic that exudes tension between both masculinity and youthfulness, often mistaken for femininity, is what sets many groups apart from those in western cultures. In just the past 10 years of the formation of boy idol groups, there has already been over 14 music videos that reveal the boys in lifting their shirts, exposing their body, while still having expressions on their faces that reveal a "baby face." These groups range from boy groups that are known for their masculinity, such as Big Bang, MBLAQ, and Monsta X, to even boy groups that are not necessarily marked for being in touch with their "masculine side."
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For example, in BTS's "No More Dream," there is a part in the bridge that is present in the choreography about two times, where Jimin pulls up his shirt. BTS at this time still being in the early stages of their debut, did not exactly create an image of grown men, rather were aiming for an image of boys in their transition to manhood. So rather than shifting their image to be more masculine from head to toe, the company decided to still accentuate their youthfulness and baby-like image in their face, while still giving a sex appeal to the female fans.
Moving onto the topic of k-pop female fandom, it is really important to analyze this very specific fandom to know the market that k-pop artists and their companies are catering to. Male k-pop groups tend to be more popular and gain more attention than female groups because their audience being primarily female is at a much larger size. Another reason why male groups tend to be more popular is because they present a winder range of gender images, within a larger spectrum of masculinity. Some of the terms that are emphasized are "flower boy" and "beast idols." Within the large spectrum of pretty and attractive boys to beastly men, lie the thousand of k-pop boy groups that there are. In contrast, female groups all similarly give off two images being cute and sexy. In the current generation of female groups, however, many groups are trying to empower females by giving very powerful performances while still exuding their talent.
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In a current Korean show called "Queendom," girl group AOA gave a very powerful performance, ridding of their usual sexual image, and it left a deep impression to the audience for giving power to women as strong as a boy group would. Especially, in their costuming and choreography, the group shows masculinity, just as a “male group” would. It is important to give credit to and note the shifts in the current generation of k-pop.
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