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bethanydelleman · 2 years
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...But let me observe that all histories are against you—all stories, prose and verse. If I had such a memory as Benwick, I could bring you fifty quotations in a moment on my side the argument, and I do not think I ever opened a book in my life which had not something to say upon woman’s inconstancy. Songs and proverbs, all talk of woman’s fickleness. But perhaps you will say, these were all written by men.”
“Perhaps I shall. Yes, yes, if you please, no reference to examples in books. Men have had every advantage of us in telling their own story. Education has been theirs in so much higher a degree; the pen has been in their hands. I will not allow books to prove anything.”
-Persuasion, Ch 23
“I am sorry it went off. But these things happen so often! A young man, such as you describe Mr. Bingley, so easily falls in love with a pretty girl for a few weeks, and, when accident separates them, so easily forgets her, that these sort of inconstancies are very frequent.” (Mrs. Gardiner)
-Pride & Prejudice, Ch 25
Jane Austen, taking the pen into her hands and fixing the record.
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turtlele · 9 months
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When Jane is too focused
Cathy: Jane's so focused on this recipe that I could say anything and she would agree
Anne: Prove it
Cathy: Hey Jane, Kat met this grasshopper and they're really in love. She needs a million dollars to marry it. Is that okay?
Jane: *setting the oven not looking at them* Yeah, Cathy. Whatever
Anne: Ohh. Hey Jane-
Jane: *holding a knife but still not looking back at them* No Anne, not allowed
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kaspenhoward · 2 months
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The Queen’s different responses to be flirted at by a man at the bar:
_Catalina_
Man: Hey ho-
Catalina: [Smashes her glass on the table the shards going everywhere, starts twitching, and starts muttering prayers in latin]
Man:
Man: [Petrified, walks away slowly]
_Anne_
Man: Hey gor-
Anne: Salut! Did you know that Reign’s Catherine de Medici, has a deformed, illegitimate daughter who wanders the palace with a bag on her head? But who I am to know? It’s been 500 years since I’ve been to the french court and I was dead by then! And who am I do judge? At least Catherine’s daughter got to keep her head! Even if she covered it.. You know you never learn to appreciate what you have when it’s gone, like my sanity, or my claim to the throne, or my daughter, or oo! My neck! Oh! Speaking of my daughter have you ever heard of the Spanish Armada?? She burned those suckers to the ground! Well- water I guess, it was a navy. Oh I miss my baby so much. She was such a cute little child but she was already so smart before I lost my head and she was two! But not a surprise speaking for the fact she was the best reigning monarch of England to have ever lived. [Sniffles] I miss her so much.. What I wouldn’t give to hug my own heart again-
Man: [Incredibly confused] I’m gonna go..
Catalina: [Finds Anne]
Catalina: WHO MADE MY QUEEN CRY?!
Man: [Terrified, crying, hiding under a table trying to crawl away, so so so confused]
_Jane_
Man: You are a beautiful lady-
Jane: [Silent, petrified, staring with wide eyes, already having a anxiety attack]
Man: Would you wanna-
Jane: [Starts crying silently]
Kat appearing out of nowhere very pis*ed: Get away from my mum!!
Man: I-
Kat showing her sharp nails: Back away before I tackle you and you get the claws!
Man: OKAY GOODNESS! CAN’T PICK ANY WOMEN UP THESE DAY!
Jane: [Starts shaking violently and has a ptsd attack]
Anna shows up: Oh you did not just do that!
[Kats proceeds to calm Jane down while Anna scolds and pathetic man and pushes him out of the bar]
_Anna_
Man: You seem like a pretty part girl-
Anna very dunk: Lamo mate? That’s what you start with? Absolutely not. Shoo you peasant, today is for me and my queens!
Man: What if I-
Anna: I said shoo! I’m too beautiful for any man! The only person I grace my presence with is my queens!
Man: [Sigh’s and walks away]
_Kat_
Man: [Walks into the vicinity of kat]
Kat with her super hearing: [Whips around looks at man dead in the eye for .001 seconds, gets all wide eyed and anxious, and runs away. Later found hiding behind Jane]
Man: [Sigh]
_Cathy_
Cathy: [Reading a book, minding her business]
Man: [Breathes to speak]
Cathy not looking from her book, very aloof: I have four dead husbands. They all deserved it.
Man:
Man: [Panics and runs away]
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fideidefenswhore · 5 months
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Anne's ability to hold the king off for seven years is part of her legend. The brilliance of her strategy was to cast herself in the role of the courtly lady, requiring Henry to play to perfect knight. Henry was nothing if not dogged in the pursuit of all the roles in which he cast himself—philosopher-king, warrior, even husband—and 'this persona of courtly lover...was fully formed in Henry and had been signaling...for an answering adept to come and lift its latch. In Anne, he had her: she was the mistress of Petrarchan contraries [...] the perfect [player] for the king's tender interest.'
Renaissance Prince: Elizabeth, Lisa Hilton
#henry viii#lisa hilton#'even husband'- that's all folks closing theme.mp3#so we see the relevant argument a lot that the seymours 'successfuly' replicated this which is kind of...yes and. no?#tl; dr it is really difficult to conceive jane managing to balance this tightrope for seven years (not to mention. three years thereafter#in a series of increasingly challenging circumstances)#(before edward vi is born i don't think their rise is comparable to the boleyns in the 1530s or the howards in the 1540s insofar as#the promotion of the queen-in-waiting's/queen's family members)#(it can be argued the seymours did maintain for longer bcus there was a plateau. in favour and rise. iyw. after edward vi's birth. or more#specifically: jane's death.)#is it possible? ig we don't really 'know' definitively#but considering anne was a successful intercessory agent even in her role as mistress#and jane was not even as queen. i...highly. doubt#there is of course the mystery of behind closed doors to be considered#(DID either of these women fully 'hold him off'? did they necessarily...want to?#but no pregnancies out of wedlock- well. elizabeth. ig. depending on who you ask- broadly speaking then#would suggest both did. and it's more likely in anne's case despite rumors for both bcus#seven years is a much longer period of time)#tl; dr the original quote is 'her blowing hot and cold was the perfect environment' WHICH#perhaps fits better for that argument- (they were the perfect players for those moments in time~ in henry's psyche as it were...#that by 1536 henry's tolerance for being 'challenged' by his lover had. worn pretty thin#however since we don't have anne's letters. i don't like summaries like that lol#we have no way of judging ourselves whether she was 'blowing hot or cold' or if henry was - maybe even willfully- misinterpreting her#whether they really were 'mixed messages' or henry was mixing them himself bcus they weren't what he wanted to hear#'my great folly' and all that. sooo.......
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queerbauten · 2 years
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Henry VIII: Would you ladies be there for me if I were going through something?
Catherine of Aragon: No. Absolutely not.
Anne Boleyn: I hope it sucks, whatever you're going through.
Jane Seymour: I hope it emotionally scars you for the rest of your life.
Anna von Kleve: I hope you reach out to me, so I can ignore you.
Katherine Howard: [doubled over laughing]
Catherine Parr: I can’t wait to go to you funeral, knowing that I could have changed that outcome.
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mzannthropy · 4 months
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Mary Millward—that steady, sensible girl, whose sterling worth had been so quickly perceived and duly valued by the supposed Mrs. Graham, in spite of her plain outside; and who, on her part, had been better able to see and appreciate that lady’s true character and qualities than the brightest genius among them.
Yes, and Helen told you so!
So happy for Mary, I said I wanted happy ending for her right at the beginning! It was one of my first posts in this tag. I had read the book prior to the substack, but I, typically, forgot a lot, or most, of it; out of the side characters from Gilbert's part of the story I only remembered Eliza and Jane Wilson. I didn't remember Mary and Richard Wilson getting together but it occur to me while reading via this substack that they should be a couple!
Also, btw, does anyone know what the point of Jane Wilson was? It just seems to me she was only there to be nasty.
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crooked-dregs · 1 year
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If you have any YA recommendations, please give them to me!! I’m going to the bookstore with my sister soon and she doesn’t know what to buy.
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edmundhoward · 4 months
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Love that we're blaming Jane for Anne and the other men's deaths, she was a wild woman after all lol. Honestly though whenever I see that take I'm like how many deaths are we now allowed to lay at Anne and Elizabeth's feet? All those people that refused to sign the oath of succession?
you see, it’s different, because one was judicial murder to facilitate a regime change and the other was legal execution where the forced submission to a regime change failed. very different!
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energeticadrianz · 1 year
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”do not seperate the siblings it probably wont end well” but what if I wanna and I just wanna 🎢🎢🎢🎢🎢🎢🎢🎢🎢🎢🎢🎢
uh oh
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heavenlymorals · 4 months
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I feel like a lot of people forget that the Van Dir Linde gang was actually famous in their universe- Dutch Van Dir Linde was as famous as the real life Butch Cassidy. The gang had as much infamy as the Wild Bunch or the Dalton gang. Arthur Morgan, John Marston, Bill Williamson, Javier Esculla, Lenny Summers, Charles Smith, Sean McGuire and more were probably as famous as the real life Doc Holliday, Jesse James, Black Bart, Rufus Buck, Ike Clanton, the Sundance Kid, Wild Bill Hickock, and more.
Sadie Adler would've been just as famous. She was a gunslinger like the real life Calamity Jane and Anne Oakley and she was an outlaw at one point like Laura Bullion, Pearl Hart, Belle Star, The Cassidy Sisters, and more.
The other women of the camp would've probably been less popular but still very intriguing figures to people in the future.
In the newspapers, we see that there are songs about Dutch's boys and books too. Trelawny mentions them being on dime novels. In the future, the pieced together story of the Van Dir Linde gang might've gotten adapted into a movie, similar to "Butch Cassidy and the Sun Dance Kid" or "The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford". They could've gotten biopics, documentaries, and more.
Historians and fans of the wild West era would dig up records, find pictures, and maybe even track down people who were apart of the gang, accomplices to the gang, or victims of the gang. They would try to piece together stories to figure out the mystery of what actually happened to the gang.
People would argue over things that happened in the gang and have their evidence to back it up. Letters written by gang members would become so valuable. If they ever someone come across Arthur's journal, it would probably be considered one of the most valuable pieces of documentation to ever exist for that time period.
The guns of the gang would probably be kept in museums if found. Albert Mason's portrait of Arthur Morgan would be found in history books, same as other pictures.
Dutch would probably be a very controversial figure in history- some would hail him as a failed hero and others would condemn his violence no matter the reason- they wouldn't know what the people in the gang knew- especially in the end. Same with the rest of the gang members.
They'd probably all get romanticized. Hosea and Dutch's friendship, the raising of the boys, Dutch and Annabelle and his fued with Colm, Mary and Arthur, John and his family, Javier being a revolutionary- no one would know the full story.
And then there is Jack- he may live to see the 1960s and 70s and 80s. He may have grandchildren who'd pull him into a theater to watch a retelling of the gang that he was a part of at one point. He'd be amused. He'd think that the actor playing his father was too clean looking, too pretty. He'd think that the movie Arthur was too skinny. He'd think that the man playing Dutch had a funny voice as he tried to mimic the accent. He'd laugh and make notes in his head of the historical accuracy. He'd feel sorrowful at the deaths of the characters- he knew them at some point. And no one at the theater would know that the old man with the rowdy bright eyed boys who brought him there was Jack Marston, the last of the Van Dir Linde gang.
Jack might talk about it to the public. He might do interviews. He might even write a book about his father, the infamous John Marston. Those would be priceless. Even Beecher's Hope might be kept around and visited as a historical site for history goers.
And honestly? It is such a bittersweet thing.
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bethanydelleman · 2 years
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Captain Frederick Wentworth, I know people love you and you write very nice letters, but I really don’t know if I would want to marry a man who has held a grudge for 8 years about something I did at 19...
Like, don’t you hate it when your partner brings up something you did a few weeks ago in an argument?
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fideidefenswhore · 8 months
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Latymer explained how, when Anne heard that the smaller monasteries were to be dissolved, she instructed Hugh Latimer to argue in his next sermon before the king that the houses should not be dissolved but converted to better uses. Anne was not an uncritical supporter of monasticism: Latymer reports how she told a delegation of abbots and priors that they kept 'their gates close[d] from the preachers of God's word, and yourselves sit either idle or scarce well occupied in your cloisters, clean void of knowledge,' knowledge being here the correct evangelical familiarity with the scriptures. Anne's agenda was not dissolution but transformation: Latimer 'besought [the king] it might please [H]is [G]race of goodness to convert the abbeys and priories to places of study and good letters and to the continual relief of the poor.' Anne instructed her other preachers to include in their sermons 'continual and earnest petitions for the stay of the same.'
The Pilgrimage of Grace and the Politics of the 1530s (2001), Richard Hoyle
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delphinidin4 · 21 days
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The first time I read Jane Austen's novels, I was about the age of most of the heroines. A year or two younger than confident Elizabeth Bennet, a few years older than naive Catherine Morland, etc. For the most part, I didn't even think about it.
I vividly remember re-reading Persuasion when I was the precise age of Anne Eliot. She was even born in '87 (1787), while I was born in '86 (1986), so whenever they mentioned years in the past, I knew just how old she was at that time and just where I had been in life at the same age. (She and Wentworth broke up in '06, for instance, which was my sophomore year of college.) It was a fascinating experience, especially considering how much of that book is specifically ABOUT her age and her point in life.
....I am now rereading Sense and Sensibility at the age of 38, which means I am the age of Colonel Brandon and Mrs. Dashwood, rather than Elinor and Marianne and I CANNOT stop thinking about it.
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vanyatas · 1 month
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Could you write some headcanons for eyeless jack? I love your headcanons so far for Jeff, Toby, and Liu :D
OMG YES teehee… 😍
EYELESS JACK HCS:
GENERAL HCS:
6’10
IMO he is a demon..
Very tall lanky build.
Sharp teeth, dull pre-sacrifice, now that he’s basically a cannibal they have gotten sharp over time.
Nu metal fan oh my god.
Shaggy layered dark brown hair, keeps it medium length. Definitely peeks out of his hoodie and over top his mask.
Hygienic, The cleanest and most nice smelling creep. Loves to take care of himself.
He definitely takes care of the other creeps when they get injured, Doesn’t mind until it’s a heavy frequent thing.
Short tempered.
Now this might be a little self indulgent but to keep up with his demonic appearance, his skin is a medium grey/blue, has 3 tongues to enhance the scary appearance.
Korn, Slipknot, Evanescence, Linkin park, Kittie, SOAD, Deftones, Limp Bizkit, Godsmack, Disturbed, Flyleaf, Three Days Grace, TRUSTcompany, Paparoach, Seether lover.
Very well spoken and more polite
Really good friends with Toby.
Friends with Jeff, Ann, Masky, Jane, Seedeater.
Yes he does eat kidneys ‼️‼️ I feel like he also eats a lot of other parts of humans just because he is a cannibal
Or whatever you would call a demon that eats humans.
ROMANTIC HCS:
Oh. This guy is the BEST boyfriend.
Will lean down just to kiss you.
Does absolutely whatever you want him to.
A gentleman if you will.
After he gets done with his missions from the Operator, he will go into any flora and grab you the prettiest flowers.
Will make you feel loved deep down to your core.
Stays up just to make sure you’re not interrupted during your sleep.
Meaningful gifts.
Mentioned once you had an obsession with anything? Boom. He’s wrapping items from it up.
So much physical affection.
Kisses, hugs and words of affirmation.
Probably licks you a little.
He cares so deeply for your safety it’s genuinely insane.
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milkycarnations · 1 month
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Proxies with the reader begging them to breed her mid sex pleasee, like she has a breeding kink but never told them and the words just came out without thinking >w<
I'm gonna do short ones because I'm experiencing horny shame, but as a compromise, I'll throw in a lot more characters. Divider here.
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Laughs at you but is totally into it. In fact, they do go a bit harder. "Haha, really? You've never mentioned that before..." he'd hum before pushing your legs closer to your chest and thrusting deeper. Jack, Brian
Literally whimpers and their pace stutters because that was hot as fuck. "Jesus," he fumbled over his words, his hips jolting forward as a soft whine fell from his lips. Tim, Toby
Laughs at you, but in a demeaning you're into that? kind of way. "Haha! What the fuck? You're seriously into that shit?" he said, but his hips continued to piston quickly, pushing deep inside of you. His hands tightened around your hips. Jeff
They may be wearing a strap, but they'll find a way to get you pregnant with silicone. "Don't worry babe, you'll be full of my cum by the time I'm done with you." Natalie, Kate
Confused fem noises. She paused, her fingers tracing your clit. "Huh??" she'd ask, unsure if she heard you properly. Jane, Nina
Takes it a bit too seriously. "Aren't you on the pill? I think that might make things difficult here. Are you going to come off of it?" Helen, Liu, Nurse Anne
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