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But what exactly did Anne Lister and Ann Walker look like? We know it from their passport, the one with which they travelled on their honeymoon in 1834. Unfortunately, we have no portraits of Ann Walker so far, and all we know about her comes from Anne's journals. Of Anne, there are at least those few portraits that have survived (the most famous being the posthumous one hanging in Shibden Hall) and the more 'heartfelt' description by Edward O'Ferrall in his letter. You can find more about the identikit of Anne and Ann on our website, in the article that examines the entire passport. You can also find the link to the article on Edward O'Ferrall's letter in bio.
#anne lister#gentleman jack#ann walker#italy#going to italy#wlw#travelling#anne lister codebreaker#bbc#researching#passports#1800s#shibden hall#sally wainwright#suranne jones#sophie rundle#new article#new post
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THANK YOU x billions for the Anne Lister crypt font. I don't know who you are but I love you!! ❤🏳🌈🎩⭐
I’m just a wee lesbian/official West Yorkshire Archive codebreaker who likes fonts :) love you too!
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1818 Oct., Sat. 31
9 1/2
12 20/60
No kiss. Went to Miss V[allance] quarter hour before breakfast. Kissed her exceedingly, which she took very kindly, telling me I should be tired of her in a week –
Letter from M– [Mariana] (Lawton) – After breakfast Miss V– [Vallance] and I put by Mrs. N– [Norcliffe]’s prints, etc. Kissed her perpetually. I[sabella] N[orcliffe] went to Malton (on horseback), Miss V– [Vallance] and I (from 2 40/60 to 4 ½) walked to Birdsall –
She always meets with adventures. In Paris two young men whom doctor Bolton met at Dover and whom he had invited to be of his party sometimes. Were so always in attendance on Miss V[allance] and Miss Charlotte Bolton, his daughter, that the doctor became jealous of what Miss V[allance] was about.
The doctor always evaded letting her see the Venus de Dedici. At last she was so anxious about it he took her, and whom should they meet there but these two young men. In Bruxelles she went to a masquerade. A fine young man and his friend (in some character or other) joined her (she was not even in domino, the doctor not liking her to be in any other character than her own), staid with her all the evening, and the fine tall youn[g] man spoke good French.
Told her a great deal about herself and she afterwards found out that he was a young man of two thousand a year who had heard of her and went abroad (tho in a deep decline of which he soon after died) on purpose to see and offer to her. Oburn was at this masquerade in the character of a hermit but Miss V[allance] happening to lose her party, he ran out put on plain clothes and went home with Miss V[allance] and poor Emily, who was with Miss V[allance] and in domino. Norcliffe also was at this masquerade.
Miss V[allance] said I should think her vain. So I did in my heart. I afterwards talked love to her. She still persists that her sentiments are cold towards me and that it is only weakness that makes her suffer my conduct –
In the evening wrote this journal of yesterday and today – Very fine day –
A little before 12 (p.m.) went for 1/4 hour to Miss V– [Vallance]. Sat by her bedside. Got my hand down to quere and smuggled a pair of scissors under the clothes meaning to cut off a lock of the hair. As soon as she found I had got scissors, she instantly said ‘What are you going to do with those scissors?’ and desired me to take them away in such a tone that I saw my experiment would not answer. I apologised as well as I could and she forgave me.
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if you don’t like mariana lawton literally grow up. anne lister loved her romantically for twenty years and as a friend for her entire life. ann walker became very close with her throughout the mid-late 1830s and after anne lister’s death they continued to share a deep friendship. they were real complex people who were not always charitable to each other but they had an understanding of solidarity as lesbians, as women, living through deeply oppressive times
#th.txt#to a further extent. there are diary entries from codebreakers that were not part of the wealth of info used for the show#that shed a much kinder light on mariana and i think people need to remember that the show is an interpretation of secondary sources#it’s wonderfully skillfully made and hugely elaborate RPF#i get some are not as much into the real history behind the show but idk#it saddens me to see the difficult choices and coerced choices of historical lesbians reduced to shipping wars#i much dislike this concept of endgame loves and otps ESPECIALLY regarding anne lister#that’s just not how she conducted her relationships#every woman in her life she loved and continued to love though the love morphed over time#each of them satisfied what anne needed in that period of her life and in return anne also gave them so so so much#to be a woman in regency times even a straight woman was generally a tragic life filled with absolutely no free will and choices#to be a lesbian was to be isolated from the little society outside of whatever forced marriage you were most likely goaded into#i wish fandom did less arguing over otps and more critical analysis of what it meant to be a lesbian in regency britain#the real magic of GJ is how it manages to portray hope and historical grit through objectively terrible circumstances and make it romantic#if i wanted a nondescript lesbian romance there’s actually a decent amount to choose from now#im obsessed with GJ because of the history and the complexity of real people and real situations endured#but it seems like to some those are the worst parts of the show? which i just simply don’t get
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You're going to an Anne Lister research summit?! That's amazing!
Hi! Yes I will! and you can participate too! Anne Lister Research Summit is an online event, it will be three days of panels, conversations and workshops on various topics with codebreakers and researchers. And best of all, the event is completely free! This will be the third edition, which previously featured panels with Anne Choma, Helena Whitbread, Jill Liddington and many others. You can get more information about the event here.
#anne lister#anne lister research summit#anne lister diaries#anne lister society#ann walker#mariana lawton#gentleman jack#gentleman jack 2
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Sunday 28 July 1839
[The border is near. Anne fails to get change from her bribe to a wily customs official, but does not fume about it all that much, perhaps because the scenery is outstanding. They cross a fjord into Norway in the driving rain, and decide to have an early day’s rest after a hearty dinner.]
[up at] 3 1/2
[to bed at] 8 1/2
Dull morning Fahrenheit 65° at 4 a.m. a shower between 4 and 5 a.m. Our Inn seems upon a wide moor, the whitewashed church at some distance standing alone its parish houses so scattered – Off at 5 17/” from Hede – heavyish showers stop by the way at 6 22/” a little distance from the post station at Skallerug pronounced (Tzchellăre, Tzchellăry) and the man said if he was not too much hurried, he would take us to Wik thro’ Eist, a post station, 1 3/4 mile narrow granite-girt, fir-sprinkled, unfertile valley – farmers thinly strewed thin crops of corn – off from just before Skallerug in about 1/4 hour at 6 37/” and at 6 3/4 a few hops tall and looking well – this stage (about 8 a.m.) observe white water lilies lotus of the North, on the river and shallow lake – Stage at 8 35/” but drove on – at 9 47/” stop at pretty custom house of Hogdal and pay a rix dollar = 32 skilling Banco instead of 24 skilling Banco as as proposed by the man himself to avoid being searched – he owned giving anything was not compulsory – I offered him a rix dollar note – because I could not spare my small notes – the man had no change and quietly pocketed the whole – off to the Inn close to the custom house – could not have horses of 1 1/2 hour would have breakfasted but had eaten of our rice pudding at 9 – alighted at the neat little wood Inn at Hogdal picturesque scattered little village or town – had a good room (village Inn) to our ourselves and sat inking over accounts and this little book till off again at 12 1/4 – Talk about the road to Frederickshald – Handbook says we might go by Helle or Westgaard – It seems Helle is supprimée – must go to Westgaard – very beautiful drive from Hogdal – rocky, woody, narrow, beautifully broken valley – our road lying partly thro’ a forest of pines – this now seems by far the most picturesque beautiful stage since Götheborg – It began to rain as we alighted at Hogdal and tho’ a gleam while we were there began again just before we set off and from 12 1/4 for 50 minutes rained tremendously – rained all the way to the ferry – then almost fair for 1/4 hour – The scenery at the ferry very beautiful – up and down the river equally beautiful – fine mammeloné wooded granite or gneiss mountains – neat good-looking Inn on the Norway side and picturesque hut or 2 on the Swedish side on which a new road making to avoid the tremendously steep descent upon the ferry – should like to stay a day at the Norway side Inn – Passport visé – ferry 2 skilling Banco per person and a dollar Banco for carriages large or small – our Hogdal horses took us forwards – still rain – the carriage embarked on the ferry-raft or barge in 5 minutes and disembarked in the same – over in 10 minutes – at the ferry at 1 1/2 – over at 1 3/4 – off from there at 2 – passed Helle at 2 33/”, an old farm house looking dilapidated, and at 2 35/” alighted here Westgaard – very nice good looking wood-built farmhouse – Still rain and likely for nothing but rain – Frederickshald 3/4 mile off – Frederickstad 3 1/2 miles off – horses from here to be in at 1st they said in 2 hours then in 1/2 hour! but would take us till 8 to reach Frederickstad – ordered dinner – sent off for a bed – looked about in the kitchen etc. – no fire in the company part of house – dinner pork-pancake with bacon inside, bread and butter and thick milk – everything good – dinner from 4 20/” to 5 – then inked over accounts and wrote so far of today till 6 1/4 – still rain – glad we stopt here – then getting change for 5 Norwegian species and counting it over etc. till 8 – no difficulty in getting change here as in Sweden where it seems as if it was not to be had very terribly rainy night and Fahrenheit 61 1/2 ° now at 8 p.m. –
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Hogdal.
ferry
Westgaard
WYAS Catalogue: SH:7/ML/TR/12/0010 SH:7/ML/TR/12/0011
John William Edy (1760-1820), “Svinesund Ferry, Norwegian Side” from Boydell’s Picturesque Scenery of Norway (1820). This is where Anne Lister and Ann Walker landed in Norway.
Scenery in Hogdal:
[Please note: I will for the time being skip the Norway entries, starting from the following day, July 29 1839, as an online exhibition on Anne Lister and Ann Walker in Norway, featuring transcriptions by a number of us codebreakers, is due to be set up in June 2020. The next post will be the entry for 14 August 1839, featuring our heroines sailing back to Gothenburg. I will post my Norway transcriptions sometime after the exhibition goes live.]
#annelister#annwalker#sweden1839#norway1839#travelnotes1839#anne lister#ann walker#gentleman jack#annelistercodebreaker
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Heya, so, I’d like to start transcribing and have visited the WYAS site and all that, but I was wondering if you knew of any communities of transcribers? Somewhere to go for some tips and support, because this is... hard. Thanks!
sure the main page is the Anne Lister Codebreaker fb page. it is also worth putting up queries on twitter with #AnneListerCodeBreaker a number of helpful folk and others to commiserate with hangout there
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Crypthand
by Ladybug_21
Deciphering crypthand made Lucy feel closer to Anne Lister than she had ever felt to anyone in her life.
Words: 2785, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English
Fandoms: The Bletchley Circle, Gentleman Jack (TV)
Rating: General Audiences
Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings
Categories: F/F
Characters: Lucy Davis, Susan Gray, Millie Harcourt, Jean McBrien
Relationships: Susan Gray/Millie Harcourt, Anne Lister (1791-1840)/Ann Walker (1803-1854)
Additional Tags: codebreakers, Bletchley Park, World War II
from AO3 works tagged 'Anne Lister (1791-1840)/Ann Walker (1803-1854)' https://ift.tt/2OjD2UQ
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Queer Historiographies
Returning to Karen Hansen's essay on Erotic Friendship between African-American Women after reading it a year ago in the context of Queer Media brought about some interesting reflections on temporality. Hansen spends the early portions of the piece trying to establish the historicity of the physical intimacy between Addie and Rebecca, her two corresponding subjects, and turns in its later pages to the social implications of such a relationship. "While Addie and Rebecca's family and friends did not endorse a same-gender partnership that excluded marriage," she writes "they accepted these women's partnership as similar to a heterosexual one." This emphasis on a clear dichotomy, even when subverted, between same-sex and heterosexual relationships reads at times as by-produce to Hansen's own historical moment, as a writer in 1995. As discused further in later readings, Hansen seems to be interested in exporting this dichotomy from the late 20th century's debates about marriage equality legislation to the 19th century relationship of two erotic friends, for whom marriage was clearly never an option.
Norton's review of the scrapbooks of William Beckford finds early 19th century evidence of physical intimacy between same-sex partners, but unlike the loving correspondence of Hansen's subjects, Norton is intrigued by Beckford's in the legal reprecurssions for discovered and convicted queer peoples. Beckford's anger at the persecution of queer people, according to Norton, "never took a more active form than vexatious rage and vain sighing, but at least he was not ashamed to be homosexual himself and he clearly recognized the prejudice of his society." This recognition in some ways makes him more modern than other subjects discussed in these works. Beckford's scrapbooks and letters seem to abound with lamentations for those unfortuante men who were caught fratrenizing with other males. He also expresses pre-existing knowledge of some of the individuals in questions and the cruising spots they frequented, which provides a unique picture of subcultural practice rather than singular relationships. However, Beckford's bias in selection is apparent as well. Norton shows that he clearly selected some of the most egregious incidents and trials to clip and save, clearly echoing the historiographic selection biases common in queer discourses of triumph over suffering.
Roulston challenges these sorts of temporal exports in an essay on Anne Lister, arguing that Litster gets constructed as "a symbolic confation of past and present. Yet it is specifically Lister's modernity that makes her a codebreaker. It is because of her modernity that we want her to be the key to the past." Throughout the essay, Roulston presents examples of incidents and themes recounted in Lister's diaries which were edited out and subsequently re-added to various published accounts after her death. These omissions and additions, he argues, serve the dominant historiographic discourse of each of their respective eras. And, as was the case in Hansen's work, accounts of same-sex attraction and romantic activity are introduced into the discourse during moments of widespread debate and discussion around LGBGTQ+ issues. As for Lister herself, she emerges from these accounts as a mythical rebellious figure, whose very past-ness allows her to become a vessel of a "tantalizing modernity [which] becomes integlligble only through an acknowledgement of her resistance to the modern..."
This tension between Lister's modernity and resistance thereto is clearly evident in the BBC series Gentleman Jack, which was based loosely on the diaries Roulston discusses. Throughout the series Lister is presented as a rebellious androgyne dressed in black from head-to-toe disrupting the quaint sensibilities of the townspeople and nobles of Halifax. Her demeanor is intense even in her most reserved and romantic encounters. And that intensity is not reserved for diegetic characters. Passages from her diary are read aloud by lead actress Suranne Jones in fourth-wall breaking direct address a la Phoebe Waller Bridge's Fleabag (released via BBC Three to widespread acclaim two years prior). These clearly anachronistic and confrontational moments force the viewer to reckon with how the series enforces 21st century modernity onto fictionalized versions of 19th century subjects, causing temporal confusion and discomfort that feels novel in a high budget costume drama from an established entity such as the BBC.
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ANNE LISTER & ANN WALKER'S PASSPORT 🇬🇧🇫🇷🇨🇭🇮🇹
In 1834, like today, you needed a passport to travel abroad. In this new article by Francesca Raia you can read everything about the passport issued to Anne Lister and Ann Walker when they went on their honeymoon in 1834. We've examined this document at the West Yorkshire Archive and have found many interesting details, including a closer look to both our ladies(!) like the various stamps from France, Switzerland and... of course a bit of Italy (then Kingdom of Sardinia). The article also includes links to the travelmaps.
📸 Images courtesy @westyorkshirearchive
#anne lister#gentleman jack#ann walker#italy#going to italy#travelling#travelmap#newarticle#new post#wlw#new#anne Lister codebreaker#ACCADDEOGGI#Onthisday
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by Ladybug_21
Deciphering crypthand made Lucy feel closer to Anne Lister than she had ever felt to anyone in her life.
Updated: 2019-11-26 Words: 2803, Chapter: 1/1, Language: English, Hits: 249
Fandom: The Bletchley Circle, Gentleman Jack (TV)
Rating: General Audiences
Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings
Categories: F/F
Relationships: Susan Gray/Millie Harcourt, Anne Lister (1791-1840)/Ann Walker (1803-1854), Lucy Davis & Millie Harcourt, Lucy Davis & Susan Gray
Characters: Lucy Davis, Susan Gray, Millie Harcourt, Jean McBrien
Additional tags: codebreakers, Bletchley Park, World War II
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1828 Dec., Tues. 30
5 40/60
11 20/60
Some time talking to Jno [John] etc. Goodish motion as of late yesterday and the day before. Another motion loose and largeish as if after a dose. Take treacle to my pudding every day –
At my desk at 7 35/60 – wrote the following note to “John Rawson Esquire, Ash grove, Elland” (and sent it to the post by Jno [John] a little before 9)
“Dear Sir – I hear you are thinning your woods of some very nice young beeches and sycamores – I want about eight of each to plant out as single trees, and, if you can spare me so many, shall be very much obliged to you – I can send a couple of men and the cart any day you may have the goodness to name – I beg my compliments to Mrs. Rawson, and am, dear sir, very truly yours Anne Lister, Shibden Hall Tuesday 30 December 1828” –
Breakfast at 7 55/60 in about 20 minutes – On considering over what William K– [Keighley] told me yesterday made the marginal observations and references on the margin of yesterday – William K– [Keighley] said Thomas G– [Greenwood] was losing by his hard wood (meaning oaks, sycamores, ashes, beeches, and suchlike) but gained by his mahogany and cabinet making –
His better stick to what he understood – Not right to sell his wood at such a price as 15 1/2 d [pence] a foot – 6d [pence] for grower and everybody theirs to undersell, and lower prices – Must have lost by it – It was sold before he had got it away from here – The common price a pair of cart shafts oak 10/6 ash 9/. [shillings]
Greenwood sells the latter at 7 /. [shillings] a pair – Many a man will not deal with him – If this widow woman’s husband had been living, he would have had nothing to do with him – When Greewood came for the wood, and I told him the other lot was about£5, he said that was much higher valued then the other – There ought to be above 100 foot of wood for that price. Should not be more than 14d [pence] a foot – I suppose he calculated to make 1 1/2 per foot – William K– [Keighley] says he ought to have 5 percent for his money – and 1/2d [pence] a foot would do –
Wrote the above of today – Then at my accents till 10 1/4 – William K– [Keighley] yesterday calculated the alder at the fish pond 5 feet at 13d [pence] = 5/5. 2 grained sycamore in hall lane 13 feet and 12 feet at 1/6 = 1.17.6 sycamore bottom of calf croft also 2 grained 6 feet and 5 1/2 feet at 15d [pence] = 13/9. Sycamore Well Royde fence between Ing and Brow, 5 feet at 15d [pence] = 6/3 Elm in a same hedge row 2 feet at 1/6 = 3/. [shillings] –
Again looking over my accounts till 10 3/4 – Went out at 11, down to Mosey and his man taking up the railing in Charles Howarth’s field along the top of Lower Brook Ing wood and setting it 4 feet farther from the holly hedge – Ordered the about 9 yards of hedge cut down yesterday by William Keighley junior in mistake at the top of Lower brea wood and bottom of Well Royde crow to be double railed this afternoon and Mosey and his companion did it –
The pruning and young oaks in Hall wood till 1, and then went to Throp and the 2 wallers planting in the Cunnery plantation – Sauntered about there and in the upper fields during the 55 minutes the men were at dinner – Went down about 2 3/4 and sent Jno [John] up with more oaks – Throp had then planted near 300 today – Except this Jno [John] did nothing for me today – William finish the little bit of clearing of the plantation that remained to be done –
Then went along the walk and cut across the fields to Well Royde – Sauntered about there, then, went along the Northowram road to the end of it beyond Quarry house – Admire this road the view etc. and returned by Wellroyde –
Had just got into Lower brook Ing at 4 1/2 when Jno [John] met me to say Mr. Waterhouse was coming – Hurried home – Sat 10 minutes in the little breakfast room – At 4 50/60 went up to dress came down at 5 1/4 – and sat talking – They drank tea and I had my dinner at the same time in the drawing room. Mr. W– [Waterhouse] gave me the account of the canal tonnage and of the stock and dividends – The cut up to H–x [Halifax] cost £600000 – Wont pay more than now (nine percent had yearly) these 7 or 10 years – Shares now worth 100 guineas percent ∴ [therefore] pays 3 1/2 percent on the investment – Mr. W– [Waterhouse] went away at 8 20/60 –
Went upstairs for near 1/2 hour – Then came down – Sat talking – Wrote out from my father the contents in day works of the different fields my father occupies – Wrote the last 13 lines – Very fine mildish day – Went upstairs at 10 25/60
A striking proof of how very little influence I have with Marian occurred this evening – I have repeatedly observed that all the jesuitical party and all the knowing ones among the Roman Catholic priesthood feared nothing so much as emancipation – Hated Canning because he was for it – Looked up to Wellington as their champion against it – No impression made on Marian –
Mr. Waterhouse happened casually to say this evening that his brother said all the well informed of the Roman Catholic clergy in Portugal dreaded nothing so much as emancipation and bringing the Roman Catholics more in contact with the protestants – I saw Marian was struck by this observation – I have just named it to her – She seems already more than 1/2 converted –
Well! Said I, how often have I made similar observations in vain – You will come round at last – but I must not convert you – Oh! no said Marian you will never be to blame – True – I know none with whom my influence in all matters of opinion is so small as with my own and only sister –
Wrote the last 8 lines and had just done at 10 40/60 at which hour Fahrenheit in my room (52º and the wind very calm earlier in the evening) highish – Mr. W– [Waterhouse] mentioned Todd’s the great ready monday haberdasher’s shop in the city – 70 or 80 shopsmen –
[sideways in margin] Speaking of the manor of Southowram, mentioned the circus of the waste near Joseph Hall’s said I had asked Mr. R– [Rawson] if he was tired of the manor, and he had answered it was worth £3000 to one – He gave £1000 for it – Mr. W– [Waterhouse] agreed he could not do better than take the same money for it again – I said if he let me consider too long I might change my mind, but I was a thousand for it now –
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NEWS ON BEHALF OF ANNE LISTER ITALIA
Anne Lister's journals introduced us to Madame de Bourke, a dear friend of her who lived in Paris. She was the widowed countess of a Danish diplomat, with an intriguing and surprising life that began in Italy, since Maria Assunta Leonida Butini (her maiden name) was born in Siena, Tuscany. Our research sparked from Anne's journals, and thanks to documents we've found in archives between Naples and Copenhagen plus a few other biographical accounts, we have reconstructed her story.
🚨 Spoiler alert: unfortunately Anne Lister died before her, and could never know how right she had been about this woman. Read the article about Madame de Bourke on our website and find out why!
📸 Images courtesy @westyorkshirearchive @rigsarkivet
#anne lister#anne lister codebreaker#madame de bourke#sophie o'ferrall#gentleman jack#siena#italy#philantropist#anne lister of shibden hall#paris
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by Ladybug_21
Deciphering crypthand made Lucy feel closer to Anne Lister than she had ever felt to anyone in her life.
Updated: 2019-11-26 Words: 2783, Chapter: 1/1, Language: English, Hits: 48
Fandom: The Bletchley Circle, Gentleman Jack (TV)
Rating: General Audiences
Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings
Categories: F/F
Relationships: Susan Gray/Millie Harcourt, Anne Lister (1791-1840)/Ann Walker (1803-1854)
Characters: Lucy Davis, Susan Gray, Millie Harcourt, Jean McBrien
Additional tags: codebreakers, Bletchley Park, World War II
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