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shesnake · 2 years ago

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Spider-Verse Artists Say Working on the Sequel Was ‘Death by a Thousand Paper Cuts’

Why don’t more animated movies look this good? According to people who worked on the sequel, Across the Spider-Verse, it’s because the working conditions required to produce such artistry are not sustainable.

Multiple Across the Spider-Verse crew members — ranging from artists to production executives who have worked anywhere from five to a dozen years in the animation business — describe the process of making the the $150 million Sony project as uniquely arduous, involving a relentless kind of revisionism that compelled approximately 100 artists to flee the movie before its completion.

While frequent major overhauls are standard operating procedure in animation (Pixar films can take between four and seven years to plot, animate, and render), those changes typically occur early on during development and storyboarding stages. But these Spider-Verse 2 crew members say they were asked to make alterations to already-approved animated sequences that created a backlog of work across multiple late-stage departments. Across the Spider-Verse was meant to debut in theaters in April of 2022, before it was postponed to October of that year and then June 2023 owing to what Entertainment Weekly reported as “pandemic-related delays.” However, the four crew members say animators who were hired in the spring of 2021 sat idle for anywhere from three to six months that year while Phil Lord tinkered with the movie in the layout stage, when the first 3-D representation of storyboards are created.

As a result, these individuals say, they were pushed to work more than 11 hours a day, seven days a week, for more than a year to make up for time lost and were forced back to the drawing board as many as five times to revise work during the final rendering stage.

"For animated movies, the majority of the trial-and-error process happens during writing and storyboarding. Not with fully completed animation. Phil’s mentality was, This change makes for a better movie, so why aren’t we doing it? It’s obviously been very expensive having to redo the same shot several times over and have every department touch it so many times. The changes in the writing would go through storyboarding. Then it gets to layout, then animation, then final layout, which is adjusting cameras and placements of things in the environment. Then there’s cloth and hair effects, which have to repeatedly be redone anytime there’s an animation change. The effects department also passes over the characters with ink lines and does all the crazy stuff like explosions, smoke, and water. And they work closely with lighting and compositing on all the color and visual treatments in this movie. Every pass is plugged into editing. Smaller changes tend to start with animation, and big story changes can involve more departments like visual development, modeling, rigging, and texture painting. These are a lot of artists affected by one change. Imagine an endless stream of them."

"Over 100 people left the project because they couldn’t take it anymore. But a lot stayed on just so they could make sure their work survived until the end — because if it gets changed, it’s no longer yours. I know people who were on the project for over a year who left, and now they have little to show for it because everything was changed. They went through the hell of the production and then got none of their work coming out the other side."

#across the spider verse #spider man: across the spider verse #spiderverse #spiderman #marvel #atsv #phil lord #film #animation #vfx #post production #read the whole thing pls!

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bixels · 6 months ago

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tarpit site.

#personal #delete later #for context a tweet i made in the middle of the night blew the fuck up and brought the attention of anime fans who've been #harassing and hassling me about my big factual blunder for an entire day straight #“ok i'll apologize” “bro it's not that serious.”#“you're right it's not that serious“ ”why won't you just admit that you're wrong and apologize!“#i'm not going crazy right. i feel like i'm getting manipulated into thinking i must've been wrong #it's crazy how twitter hate will trick you into believing saying something someone else disagrees with is a moral failing #sorry i haven't seen frieren i guess but what's it to you. i wasn't making a claim or statement #also because nobody has gotten this in the original post i wasn't talking about the quality of animation i'm talking about solid drawing #which is a very specific principle of animation. dandandan has really good solid drawing wherein all the characters are animated #with realistic and proportional 3d depth. newsflash but trigger doesn't prioritize solid drawing in their animation and that's fine #it's an aesthetic choice and has ties to production limits. none of this is a big deal. this is all so stupid lol #i've dealt with worse and more annoying weebs though it's fine i'll put on my clown nose twitter needs their stupid guy for the day #oh btw at the end of the day this doesn't matter. it'll be over by tomorrow. all that's happening is petty angry emotions.#so please don't involve yourself by jumping into the argument and prolonging this shit #i'm about to go on a date with tulli after being apart for a month this is the furtherest thing from my mind rn

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shalmonsdraws · 10 months ago

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he is waiting

#pikachu #pokemon #pixel #pixelart #pixel animation #artists on tumblr #in one of those phases where i'm productive but not actually posting much lol #so i'm seeing how goofy li'l pixels will do

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luck-of-the-drawings · 20 days ago

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OH MY DAYS i cant believe i never posted this one here (originally posted to twitter, JAN20 2023) (hes stabbing his little bathtub bed. is that obvious? i hope its obvious) OLD ART at this point but i still like the way i did expression and movement. also WEEE THE NIGHTMARE ARC WAS SO FUNNNN WASNT IT FUNNN?? WEEEE!!

#jrwi fanart #jrwi show #jrwi riptide #THE SQUIRMING IMAGE #finally have a tag for animations AHA!!anyway WOOWW IM SO MIFFED THAT I NEVER POSTED THIS...#IM STILL RLY KINDA PROUD like i can do better at this point but AUUAUAUAUAU #THE EXPRESSION IS FUN AND THE MOVEMENT AND THE TEXT #i love animating destinys blade w expressions. i had another animation i was cookin up forever ago that had db talking #but ouuuhhhhhhanimating is so harddddd and im in oc world rn. weee lalalaaaaa oc world!!#i gtg be productive but i mmight come back to these tags to ramble abt eitehr the art or gillions nightmare arc

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kit-kat-jo · 4 months ago

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you mean to tell me when uzi screamed “I AM GOD!” it was fucking FORESHADOWING????!!?