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magnetothemagnificent · 2 years ago
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It's always so funny when Hebrew names don't change much in spelling when they're anglicized, but the difference in pronunciation is night and day.....
-David. Anglos: "Day-vid". Hebrew speakers: "Dah-veed".
-Michael. Anglos: "My-cull". Hebrew speakers: "Me-chah-el".
-Naomi. Anglos: "Ny-oh-me." Hebrew speakers: "Neh-oh-me."
-Rachel. Anglos: "Ray-chull*." (*CH as in Cheese) Hebrew speakers: "Rah-chell".
-Levi. Anglos: "Lee-vy". Hebrew speakers: "Leh-vee".
-Asher. Anglos: "Aah-shur". Hebrew speakers: "Ah-sher".
-Leah. Anglos: "Lee-ah". Hebrew speakers: "Leh-ah" or "Lay-ah".
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ourdramaqueen · 1 year ago
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7, 10, 17, 29 for the writers ask! 🖤🖤
Well that was fast, @realmermaid333! Oh boy, let's see if I can answer all of these...
7. How many ideas for fics do you have right now?
That's a bit difficult to answer! So outside of The Sexual Education of Wednesday Addams series (a.k.a. PT verse), I currently have 6 fics that have rough outlines, two of which are based on Kinktober promtps I didn't have time to write, but I like the ideas a lot so I want to write them eventually. Then there's a doc where I've dumped random ideas or prompts in, but which are less likely to see the light of day. And of course then there's TSEoWA/PT verse, where I have two stories in active development (i.e. partially written and published), and I'm currently working on researching/plotting out the future of the verse, with the number of potential fics being... well, only limited by my interest and capacity to write, really. So there's a lot!
Then there's several ideas for The Boys (including the one fic that I still need to finish from when I got sidetracked by Wednesday), and for Frodo/Éomer and one for Éomer/Lothíriel (Prince Imrahil's daughter, whom Éomer married in the first year of the Fourth Age (IIRC), according to the LotR appendices) which are in various stages of writing but I got stuck on...)
10. Is there a fic that got a different response than you were expecting?
I certainly did not expect Private Tutor to blow up the way it did! I generally try not to put any expectations on my fics, because it's impossible to tell how any one of them will be received.
17. What's something you've learned about while doing research for a fic?
Oh my gosh.
So much in depth anatomy (and not just sex related) while writing Private Tutor. Like I didn't know that the space in your vagina (and other tubular structures in your body) is called a lumen.
A lot about Anglo-Saxons and their lives, Old English, and horses when I wrote (You Get Me) Closer, my longest Frodo/Éomer LotR fic.
Flower language when I wrote How do I passive-agressively say ‘fuck you’ in flower? (Butcher/Hughie, The Boys).
A bit about the porn industry and the reality of porn shoots when I wrote Kinktober Day 21: Pornography (The Boys, Butcher/Hughie, Becca/Butcher)
A lot about US high schools, International Baccalaureate schools, and various areas in Brooklyn, Queens, and Long Island, NY as well as details about public transport (or lack thereof) in those areas for Line Without a Hook (a Butcher/Hughie high school AU I cowrote, and which was my most popular fic previous to Private Tutor).
Lots about royal titles (concentrating on the British system) and how to properly address each of the nobility for How The Honourable Hughie Campbell, son of The Right Honourable The Viscount Inwood, Was Promised to His Grace the Duke of Voughtland, But Instead Became the Bondmate of The Right Honourable The Lord Flatbush (a Butcher/Hughie pseudo-historical Omegaverse AU for The Boys).
29. Share a bit from a fic you’ll never post OR from a scene that was cut from an already posted fic. (If you don’t have either, just share a random fic idea you have that you don’t plan on getting to.)
Hmm... I am never certain that I will never post a fic that's a long-term WIP, and I don't have any wholesale cut scenes really - usually they just get heavily rewritten, and I don't keep the old version. Fic idea that I don't plan on getting to... Oh I recently had this one, based on the news that Hunter will participate in the poker tournament Bryan Cranston is organizing to benefit the Entertainment Community Fund: Maybe Tyler has a secret weekly poker night with various individuals who you'd never think would hang out together. Old Mrs. Johnson who's a sweet old lady with one of those pocket sized dogs, but absolutely cutthroat when it comes to poker. Connie from Uriah's Heap. Various other odd people. He's the only teenager in the group, and it might have been his boss from the Weathervane who thought he had potential because he's by far the best at covering up his irritation with customers.
If anyone wants to adopt this plot bunny, please do! I would be useless at it because I know nothing about poker.
Oops, that ended up a little more elaborate than planned! I hope it was interesting, @realmermaid333! 😘
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shadow-cooper · 4 years ago
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Here's some facts about Hollow City from Ransom's Q&A livestream. Are you guys liking these? I find putting these in a written form is helpful for my own writing and theories, so I don't have to go back to an hour long stream.
Sorry! This one is kinda long! 😅
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•Ransom didn’t know he was gonna write another book, thinking the first one wasn’t going to do well. The end of the first book could have been the actual end to the series.
•The second book was difficult for him to write. Hollow City was the first real deep dive into the peculiar world for both Ransom and Jacob.
•The early draft of the book ended up being too long and “unfocused,” since the children met so many people and found numerous loops. He ended up throwing away 80,000 words.
•The book was originally in third person and had an opening sub-chapter that was completely removed. To summarize, it was about Caul visiting a bird monger in a shop on Butcher’s Row. The monger presented Caul with a bird cage that held Miss Avocet. (*If you go to Ransom’s Insta, you can hear him read the entire opening. It’s kinda creepy haha).
•Ransom read about Shamanism to help him think about the children’s abilities and where they “blended between superpowers, or magic, or certain forms of archaic religion...”
•Millard will return for Radi once things settle down. The events of the first book and the last takes place within just a few months, so it hasn’t been long.
•Caul simply seized the opportunity to impersonate Miss Peregrine. Despite being crafty and known for planning ahead, he couldn’t do so for that situation.
•Miss Wren didn’t realize that the Peregrine she was tending to was male because, (Ransom figures), if Caul could impersonate his sister, he could impersonate a female bird.
•Ransom didn’t realize how dark of a story Hollow City was until someone mentioned it. He didn’t intend for it, but for the historical setting it’s placed in, it makes sense.
•The names of the characters rarely come from anything, but there are a few that are inspired. Joel-and-Peter are based off a photographer named Joel Peter Witkin. (*If you’re sensitive to bodies and very morbid and macabre settings, I highly suggest you don’t look into his work like I did 😅).
•When Ransom was thinking of a name for the children’s caregiver, the name “Miss Peregrine” came to mind randomly. He ended up liking it after researching the bird's fierce and protective nature. (*Coincidentally, Ransom had an ancestor with the last name Peregrin!).
•He liked the idea of a Matriarchal Society and thought that if there’s going to be one bird, there should be more.
•If Susie had a child, it’s not likely they’ll be peculiar. It’s not even that normal for a grandchild to be peculiar. Peculiarity usually skips more generations than that.
•Besides peculiar animals, there’s also plants, but Ransom doesn’t have much info on them.
•The children could have met Abe in the past, since he was in Europe fighting Nazi’s and Hollows. Ransom thought about making them meet, but thought it would have made things complex between Emma and Jacob.
•If they had met up with Abe, he would have forgot about it a few days later. The universe has ways to correct itself. (*Plus, poor Abe would've freaked out if he met his grandson).
•Ransom liked the idea of talking animals, but held back at first because he thought it would be too “kiddish.” He went with it because it was a classical fantasy trope and thought it would be fun.
•The Old Peculiar language originated alongside Anglo-Saxon. Historic linguists believe there was a “Mother Tongue,” or one language at one point in pre-history. Old peculiar was one of the “split-offs.”
•Ymbryne is an Anglo-Saxon word for “cycle” or "loop."
•Wights usually don’t have any memories from when they were Hollows. The memory fades quickly, but the “sense memories” of hunger and rage stay.
•Asian, African, Hispanic, etc. Ymbrynes exist, but they’re not all known to Miss Peregrine or the other European Ymbryne Council members. Their governance of these places would be pretty different, much like American and European governance.
•Bentham rescued Nim and Kim from Devil’s Acre. Kim is a recovered Ambro addict, and Nim is considered a “half-wit.” (*Rude!) He saw potential in them and took them under his “wing” (*😂 Sorry, I had to!)
•If the Hollow’s didn’t exist, Jacob would still be Peculiar. The Ymbrynes believe there’s more to his powers and the abilities of a Librarian that may not have emerged yet.
•Since Ransom has been getting a lot of asks about potential backstories for the kids, he’s actually starting to think about writing them.
•Normally, Ymbrynes would leave their loops every so often to search for children. They’ll also get tips and help from scouts who have Deviner-like powers who can sense peculiars in the world. They’ll report their findings to Ymbrynes.
•The Ymbryne Council decides where children go. There’s different personalities in each loop, and getting them to match so there’s no fighting is important.
•The mix of personalities in Miss P’s loop was considered and thought about previously.
•Not everything in a loop resets. Items that are commonly touched and manipulated won’t phase back unless they’re not touched for a while. Things connected to one’s body (hair, food, etc) don’t disappear either.
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youneedasoultraveller · 4 years ago
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Is Nicky the only one headcanoned by people as bad with languages or are Nile and Booker seen the same way too (Andy is of course excluded from that due to her age and Joe is universally depicted as skilled with languages) ? I would expect Nile to be seen as bad with languages due to the American education system but it doesn’t seem to be the case.
Hello! Post-response me would like to apologise once again for the length of this post :(
I have personally not found a single fic where either Booker or Nile were depicted bad with languages; at most I found fics where Nile cannot speak languages other than English yet and you have the rest of the Guard routinely teaching her this and that idiom.
So, no, in my experience the only one that I saw people actively headcanon as bad at languages is Nicolò. Even though exactly as you point our if we want to go by stereotypes the one that should have been hc’d as such should have been Nile precisely because the large majority of Anglos are monolingual and the way languages are taught in their educational systems is horrendous to say the least (I will never forget my experiences studying Arabic in a Canadian university).
As it stands, Nile is shown using a couple of words of Pashtu, and if I remember correctly it is mentioned that she speaks Spanish in her presentation card, but if it’s the average American knowledge of Spanish “mi casa es su casa” then I would not call that speaking it. But these are just suppositions :)
So canon doesn’t give us much, that we know. And this is where headcanons come in. Like I was saying, usually people would not write Nile as multilingual but as someone who is in the process of learning several languages.
No one is indicated that she is bad at it, although if you ask pratically anyone in the world they will tell you that Americans and Brits are the worst at both learning and speaking other languages, because in those cultures there is a deep imperialist bias engrained – whether they are aware or not – that everyone in the world speaks English, so they can spare the effort to try to pronounce properly another language, or, God forbid, learn it at all. Nothing indicates us that Nile butchers or not other languages, and no one ever takes it into account.
As for Booker, he is French so normally Anglos would have also made fun of his way of talking if it had not been for Matthias.
And now I reach my point. The main reason why Nicolò is consistently depicted as terrible at languages is because of Luca’s Italian accent, and the fact that you can see he is not as fluent in English as Marwan and Matthias are, who are like him not native speakers. This even though the man speaks five languages.
I am not going into the whole mess with interviews with native English speakers who treated him as if he were dumb just because he could not really understand their accent (I myself often have to slow down and ask for a repeat, because some accents are just not as immediately intelligible as Anglos think), given that it has been discussed at length.
The only thing I want to stress is how this headcanon is extremely imperialistic, condescending and plays once again into the harmful stereotype of the dumb, illiterate Southerner.
Linguistic discrimination is a thing, and it’s a thing everywhere. By linguistic discrimination I don’t just mean that against people who cannot speak a major language (or the “official” language of the country they are in), but it also affects accents.Accents have everything to do with geography and class: it is a marker of where you are from, and plays into prejudices linked to the social standing and the class usually associated to that accent. Now, languages are a natural process, in continuous evolution and adaptation, whereas standardised languages (including a standardised pronunciation) are artificial choices. Just think of British vs American English: they are both theoretically the same language, but they diverge in several instances in terms of both vocabulary and pronunciation.Whip this up to the max when it comes to speaking a language that is not your own. The sounds and grammar structures of your mother tongue have an impact on the way you process a different language. That’s why it’s difficult for Spanish-speakers to pronounce S + consonant at the beginning of a word, or why Slavic languages have a harder H sound (again at the beginning of a word). Even when you have the grammar and pronunciation down to a T and are virtually indistinguishable from a native speaker, it does not mean that people who lose their accents and speak like a BBC tv host are any better at languages than people whose accent is still noticeable, or whose speech flow may be slower.
Having an accent does not qualify the level of fluency in a set language. Not speaking like a dictionary does not qualify the level of your intelligence (and I cannot believe I have to even say that).
And yet having an accent is politicised for classist and racist purposes. If someone does not blend in 100% with the majority, it means that something is lacking in them: usually it means they do not have the same level of education, which means they probably come from a lower class, or that they also are foreigners. So they are less than, just because their speech is deemed as not up to par with that of the majority.
@lucyclairedelune meant this when she brought up the example of Gloria from Modern Family, saying “you don’t know how intelligent I am in Spanish”. I want to make an example that is closer to my heart. Elena Ferrante in her wondrous Neapolitan Quartet described the life of a girl who was trying to escape from the material and psychological misery of the slums of Naples in the 60s. To do so she migrates North to study at one of Italy’s most prestigious university: here, however, she is bullied for her accent that clearly marks her origins and (prejudicially, since people of the South were in general poorer) status, class, and, finally, categorises her as less intelligent. Just because of her accent when speaking standard Italian. As a Southern Italian woman, I have often felt like I had to mask my own accent, both in Italy and abroad, to be taken seriously. This regardless of my academic qualifications or how many languages I speak. 
When people describe Nicolò as bad at languages simply because Luca has an accent and speaks English slower and less fluently than his co-stars, this is the context that this treatment plays in. Subconsciously (or consciously) it adds to the image that a big chunk of the fandom is painting of him as dumb and ignorant. No one else. And the fact that (luckily) no one ever uses Nile’s monolingualism as a marker for being less intelligent is also because being American is still taken as the standard, as well as the fact that unfortunately Nile (like Yusuf) is going through positive discrimination by which she cannot have any complexity or flaws (starting from hardly ever acknowledging the fact that she herself was part of an invader/occupying foreign force which has bombed and killed civilians in Afghanistan, and was in the midst of a military operation exactly in this sense). 
According to that specific discourse, Nicolò is being given every single possible flaw, in order to be opposite to Yusuf. Again, because this fandom, with its Anglocentrism and Puritan incapacity of overcoming black-and-white oppositions, cannot seem to accept that we have a beautiful interracial, interreligious same-sex couple of complex individuals, who can both be smart at the same time. I myself think that Yusuf historically is better at languages than Nicolò, as he was a merchant (and an artist), and I love this difference about them, but conflating intelligence with proficiency in one single language (because it’s only proficiency English that we have been discussing, let’s be honest, if the show had been shot in German we would not be talking about Luca’s issues with the language probably) is an utterly imperialistic, condescending and ridiculous thing to do.
I probably lost the train of my thought (and I had two beers in the meantime, so I am too tired to reread), but what I mainly wanted to highlight is that this mocking attitude towards Nicolò is rooted in both a  wider downgrading trend of his character, and on a general approach towards non-English speakers that Anglos have virtually everywhere.
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starlightervarda · 4 years ago
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Is Nicky the only one headcanoned as bad at languages or is the rest of the cast also seen like this ?
Hi nonny <3
Nicky is the only character I’ve seen consistently dumbed-down or headcanon’d as being dimwitted, naive or having the hardest time with concepts and languages.
Nile might get a few fun bits here and there about the Old Guard teaching her languages because Americans, on average, are monolingual.
Some fun stuff like Booker telling her “Hors d’oeuvres is not pronounced ‘horse divorce’,”, which is really about how Americans butcher other languages. This means she knows what an hors d’oeuvre is, but not how French works.
Nicky’s language stuff is almost always tied into his intelligence or perceived ignorance. He gets ‘he didn’t know what baths are’ or ‘he couldn’t read’ or ‘he thought the Earth was flat’, etc.
Nicky spoke Medieval Latin and most likely Byzantine Greek, he came from a land of sailors who most definitely knew the Earth was round, that’s crucial to navigation. Also, he was a priest.
I don’t know, this stuff always gives me strong ‘Anglo shitting on someone from a non-Germanic culture’ vibes.
@youneedasoultraveller wrote a response to a similar question about this here.
Look, I’m not saying don’t joke about language, just make it lighthearted and reasonable language confusion. Don’t be cruel to people who have English as a second or third or even fourth language. Knowing something but forgetting the word for it is far more likely than not knowing what the thing is to begin with.
A good example is the textpost about him forgetting the word snail and asking Nile “What’s the slug with a house called?” That’s realistic, that’s funny, multilinguals do have moments like that a lot. I recently asked my mom how to say ‘steering wheel’ in English and called a leek a ‘big green onion’.
Make less jokes about intelligence and more about language mix-ups or outdated terms. My headcanon is that Joe still calls Morocco ‘Marrakech’.
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cafeleningrad · 4 years ago
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I know I get worked up at weird hours about Emily Wilson’s translations of the Odysee, even in the niche field of translation anyhow that what the cut’s for...
When talking about linguistic achievements, many anglophones still cultivate a an cultural-ego-centric-world-view. With anglophone  mostly meaninin the vague cultural hemisphere of the US, sometimes the UK when talking about  great linguisitic achievements. 
Hate to break it to you, but every language works differently therefore an achievement in one may be old news or not relevant into another. 
The reason I get my sensitive boiling up to lukewarm temperatures past midnight was a quick reading of the praise about Emily Wilson’t translations of “the Odysee”. Mostly about the wording that she supposedly was “the only on who” - no, no, the Odysee wasn’t translated in English only, it was translated in Italian (where the translation of the Odysee by a woman a woman are the oldest news), in French, Arabic, Russian, Persian etc. Emily Wilson is by no means the first in anything regarding the Odysee. Neither by regarding measurement or rythm.
Perhaps in English, okay. So please say so. “Emily Wilson is the first woman to translate the Odysee in English.” The fact that everything she does (or is) in her translation is mostly celebrated due the fact that she is a woman (in an ANglo-sphere). Only relevant in the English sphere. And only one part if perhaps considering a rhyme measurement, the other is a flippant pop-feminism selling point. Bringing me to... (because I’m pissed off to no end to read it over and over again.)
“She examines the Odysee through a contemporary feminist lens” Bitch, fuck off, write a bloody paper about it. But you aren’t surely translating if you want to adapt any text into another language suiting it’s current mentality. Or even more simple: Wilson did a bad job translating.
(If my professor ever complained about my translation being inaccurate I will defend myself gravely on the point that I choose a more women empowering vocabulary fitting into my agenda. Considering the backdrop of the source text is so archaic. Oh, Wilson, you opened new possibilities to me!)
It’s a shame that a professor caring about measurement and rythm feels so pressed to bring her “unique” perspective. This is not what a translator’s job is. The means of translating are always in conflict between adequacy and adaptability still presenting an own interpretation for a “feminist lens” (from Ancient Greece not famous for being the most women’s rights progressive society, mind you) is not dissapointing but makes me question the integrity of the work as a whole. It’s unprofessional.
In short fuck the hype of Emily Wilson and especially her celebrating her own persona just because the anglophone sphere is too narcissistic to consider for 1 second that whatever happened lingustically was only relevant for them. 
I’m aware these were a lot of words just to ask to add “in English” regarding linguistic novelties. On the other hand, for linguistics nothing is more important than examining the single differences when studying and comparing but what is that to butchering an old work to a more ~*contemporary feminist lens*~. The possibilities now open in my field as legal translator.
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jkottke · 6 years ago
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What Is a Vegetable? Do They Even Exist?
Last night at dinner, we were talking about our favorite vegetables1 and when my daughter said tomatoes might be her pick, my 11-year-old son, who is at that annoying know-it-all stage of his life and loves to shut down his sister on any minor quibble, said "tomatoes are a fruit". I argued back that while a tomato might technically be a fruit, it is culturally considered a vegetable and that he was just being a pedantic dick in order to dunk on his sister (but not in those exact words).
This morning, I ran across this piece by Lynne Peskoe-Yang called Vegetables Don't Exist, in which the author goes quite a bit deeper into what a vegetable is now (and has been in the past).
Botanically speaking, it's still clear: eggplants, tomatoes, bell peppers, and squash are all fruits. It's equally clear that mushrooms and truffles are fungi, more closely related to humans than they are to plants. But these are all, also, in common usage, "vegetables." Yet when an authority like the Oxford English Dictionary should provide clarity on what a vegetable actually is, it instead defines vegetables as a specific set of certain cultivated plant parts, "such as a cabbage, potato, turnip, or bean." And since carrots and turnips are roots, potatoes are tubers, broccoli is a flower, cabbage is a leaf, and celery is a stem, we find that "vegetable" rarely applies to the entire plant (or to the same parts of the plant), while it also has a way of applying to things that aren't actually vegetables. It is a category both broader and more specific that the thing it's supposed to describe.
The piece also references my favorite thing about the English language (which I first learned about in Bill Bryson's The Mother Tongue) about why the food that results from pigs & cows are called pork & beef:
During Norman and early Plantagenet rule, the farm-to-table divide was less of a foodie buzzword than a class distinction: the upper class were served in French while serfs and servants planted, harvested, raised, butchered, and cooked in Anglo-Saxon. The French word for the served food lived alongside the Germanic word for its source. When Anglo-Saxon chickens were slaughtered, they became poultry for the Normans to eat. Food and animal were class-divided döppelgangers: Anglo-Saxon sheep, cows, swine, and doves were transformed into French mouton (mutton), boeuf (beef), porc (pork), and pigeons (pigeons).
(via @legalnomads)
The whole thing came up because I remembered how amazing Momofuku's brussels sprouts are and told the kids its one of my all-time favorite veggie dishes. Other favorites include corn on the cob (from a particular farm in Massachusetts), a perfectly ripe tomato (in caprese salad or on a BLT), asparagus, the snap peas I get from the local farmers' market in the summer, hen of the woods mushrooms, and beets.↩
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Today in Christian History
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Today is Thursday, August 1st, the 213th day of 2019. There are 152 days left in the year.
Today’s Highlight in History:
984: Death of Bishop Ethelwold. His emphasis had been to repair the spiritual damage left by Danish invasions, to promote the Benedictine order, and build monasteries and nunneries. The English people consider him a saint because he sold the treasures of the church to feed the poor. Objects could be replaced, he said, but lives are not replaceable.
1252: Death of John of Plano Carpini, emissary of the pope to the Mongols. He had traveled great distances to protest the invasion of Christian lands and assess the strength and goals of the Tatars.
1688: Wu Yushan is consecrated as a Catholic priest at Nanjing by the Chinese bishop Luo Wenzao. Wu’s sermons will become the first collection by a Chinese Christian.
1801: Death in Schenectady, New York, of Jonathan Edwards, Jr., son of the famous Jonathan Edwards and of his vivacious wife, Sarah Pierpont. Edwards had learned the Mohican language, was a strictly orthodox pastor and theologian, and became the president of Union College shortly before his death.
1821: Death of Elizabeth Inchbald, a beautiful actress, who, after the death of her husband, had made her living as a popular dramatist and novelist. Frugal, she had gone cold and hungry herself in order to have enough to help others. Uneasy at publishing a memoir she had written, she accepted the advice of her Roman Catholic spiritual advisor, and destroyed its four volumes for which she had been offered the magnificent sum of £1,000.
1834: Death of missionary Robert Morrison at age 52. The first English Protestant missionary to China, he had translated the Bible into Chinese, constructed a Chinese grammar, founded an Anglo-Chinese college, and edited a six-volume Chinese dictionary.
1893: On his twenty-third birthday, Vladimir Nikolsky becomes a monk in the Russian Orthodox Church, taking the name Andronicus. He will go on to become an archbishop and a martyr under the Soviet regime.
1895: Anglican missionaries Robert Warren Stewart, his wife Louise, their two children and seven other Christians are butchered in China.
1950: Czechoslovakian law says that any priest consecrated without permission of the state is to go to prison for three years—robbing the church of its perogative to choose its own representatives.
1982: Isaiah Ghele Sakpo, a leader, evangelist, and prophet in Nigeria’s Apostolic Church, inaugurates the LAWNA Evangelical Defense Force (LAWNA stands for “Lagos, West and Northern Areas”), a movement whose task is to promote evangelism, prayer, and other spiritual activities among members.
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nellygwyn · 6 years ago
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10 favourite books that I read this year
• Slammerkin by Emma Dongohue - about the 18th century teenage sex worker and murderess, Mary Saunders.
• Life Mask by Emma Dongohue - about the possible romance between 18th century actress, Eliza Farren, and sculptress & gentlewoman, Anne Damer. Also explores the rest of their hectic lives and their social circles and late 18th century society.
• The Mermaid and Mrs Hancock by Imogen Hermes Gowar - In 1780s London, the beautiful and voluptuous courtesan, Angelica Neale, befriends an ageing, widowed merchant, Jonah Hancock, who claims to have found a rare mermaid and wants to exhibit it to high society.
• The Confessions of the Fox by Jordy Rosenberg - Reimagines the story of real-life 18th century criminal, Jack Shepherd, and his mistress, Bess Lyon, with Jack as a transman (who lacks the language to explain how he feels) and Bess as an Anglo-Indian sex worker. The diverse magic of Georgian London ensues.
• The Illumination of Ursula Flight by Anna Marie Crowhurst - Ursula Flight, born at the cusp of England's Restoration era in the late 17th century, wants to become a playwright and a libertine, but her genteel family have other ideas.
• Courtesans by Katie Hickman - Non fiction book about historical courtesans, but specifically focuses on the lives of Sophia Baddeley, Elizabeth Armistead, Harriette Wilson, Catherine Walters and Cora Pearl.
• The Silent Companions by Laura Purcell - A good old fashioned ghostly gothic. Flits between the 19th century and the early 17th century. A newly widowed London wife, used to bustling and glamorous living, has been left her husband's family estate. Surprise surprise, it's a dilapidated manor house with an eerie air. And worse still, it seems to be plagued by a collection of 17th century wooden painted figures that hold a dark and terrible secret.
• Fanny Burney's Journals and Letters - A collection of the private diaries and correspondence of 18th century female novelist and predecessor of Jane Austen, Frances 'Fanny' Burney. She rubs shoulders with the great and the good, blushes and worries, fights with anxiety, and longs to fall in love.
• Courtiers: The Secret History of the Georgian Court by Lucy Worsley - Non fiction book. The fascinating story of the royal courts of the first two Hanoverian of Britain. A whole host of characters dominate the pages.
• The Butcher's Hook by Janet Ellis - Stories about murderess teenage girls always go down well. In 1760s London, Anne has just fallen for her social inferior, a butcher's boy nicknamed Fub. He's handsome, passionate and gives her pleasure she's never known. But her odious father and her shy mother want her to marry the sleazy, misogynistic but monied Simeon Onions and Fub's attentions seem to be straying towards his pretty young country cousin besides. In a desperate attempt to win her freedom, wreak revenge and keep her man, Anne does the unthinkable...and gets a taste for it.
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autoirishlitdiscourses · 3 years ago
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Discourse of Tuesday, 07 September 2021
It took a bit in the grotesque body worthwhile to make real contributions in section to make a presentation, please let me know and we'll work out another time, but I'm sending this tonight because I wanted to be covered on the board and then ask yourself what your paper there were some very solid work here. What We Lost Paul Muldoon, Quoof, McCabe TBD Paul Muldoon, Quoof McCabe Butcher Boy is Y, then think about Ireland as a whole and kept them moving in directions that dug down into smaller questions: I am so sorry for your approval, I'll probably be covered by the Easter Rising on the way that it would be a bit with this issue, but getting the group to read as a commemorative, rather than moving around on the other members of the painting, too; and didn't turn in a late stage, your delivery was solid, though, you've been a document on course website to serve as a discussion of the situation, I realize. But I think that it deserves to show how much effort and time into crafting such a strong delivery.
If you absolutely can't come to section and the way that the writer of the text, and you had quite a good student again have a C for the course, Anglo-Irish Literature, fall 2013 at UC Santa Barbara, who served in some places. As you probably just need to spend more time on the exam any more questions, OK? One of these are important and impressive.
I'm not firmly attached to this offer: You added a just in line 650; changed later to now in line 14; changed Acacacacademy to Acacacademy; changed are to go this week, then there needs to be without feedback until more or less agree? It's OK to set page margins in MS Word 2007: A chicken. O'Hanlon—You've got a lot of important goals well, so it is the case that 16 June 1904: The Arnhold Program is a draft, so it may just need to be as successful as it opens up an opportunity for you for doing such a good day for an important scholarly aspect of the text itself and seeing what is off limits from those lines. We Lost Eavan Boland these poems can be hard to get them to pick one or more particular poems by line number if you start participating and pick up every point on the section website, and I will have.
You should consider not because I think that your delivery; you might enjoy David Bell's grading rubric is hard-wired to be any thematic overlap, it's impossible for every point available for the class which can be. This is a particularly complex poem that showed in your section takes a stand as Heidegger has it explicitly on why your grade back, but to find somewhere else to leave your luggage to section. Let's stop talking for four minutes, Once again, a quite high A-territory with 1 point out, when the time limit will result in automatic course failure because you haven't done the reading assigned on the final, too. All of these various types and weave them into discussion questions that ask people to talk about, but not nearly as much as it could be. On by and make sure that your idea, I think you're moving too quickly to pay more attention to the MLA requires parenthetical citations. You'll get that in order to be put into a more or less objective characteristic of the way in to the course. Again, well done. My policy is that necessarily a bad thing, and not quite successful—it is probably an unreasonable limitation, then looking at it closely it quite frequently gets treated as a result of from as a whole clearly enjoyed your presentation. E thing watered down.
1% boost, but some students may not be digging deep enough into the selection. Thanks for being a coded but direct reference; perhaps his point is that if you let me know. Departures were planned in advance what you want to pick one example how Yeats, The Stolen Child 5 p. I think, to be pretty or incredibly detailed, but want to make sure I can help you to ten sections attended relative weighting 50 _9 for 5 in the West of Ireland Lesson Plan for Week 3:56, which is itself the immediate, direct, personal interest in is the value from the rest of the texts that you want to go first, and their relationship to sexuality both by distorting the degree to which you perform some complex and insightful way. I want you to draw out a mutually convenient time to get back to the section often is so strong, gun-toting, fast-drawing, stereotypically Southern masculine characters survive and prosper under the impression I get is that you are of course and scratch and claw for every reason, and Cake next to each section. If you need to link the various quite excellent feminist readings that you want to keep its contents secret. It turns out, but perhaps one that they didn't cover but that it would pull you to an even more effectively with the poem. Alternately, you don't recite; In front of the course material, that particular idea. Find ways to the other TA notices you're there during attendance, not a good job of accomplishing many important qualities of the two tests by nearly thirty points, and even minor problems. The mean score on the professor's announcement that he must resist lest he succumb and forego his identity look at the specific language of your analysis will pay off to lecture a bit less and allow the group-generated midterm review session, why do we know a lot of ways that multiple texts, especially the young hornies.
Even just having page numbers in your recitation and discussion of as close to convenient and painless as possible, provided that each of you had a good selection, so I think that there is also a good student in your reading of them were due to midterm-related question #1, because you clearly have excellent things to talk about, and, Godot 58-59, Godot 58-59 instead of at least 98% on the last few days once you've produced a draft of my write-up, then to have been that morning in terrace she was excellent. It's just that your topic is frightening, because it makes my life easier if you do a solid understanding of the text. The passage you chose a longer one than was optimal, but neither are they representative of how they pay off at ten minutes as possible, provided that you go first or last, or having a meaningful discussion about the horror of the play makes is Rosie-Fluther is a difficult text! Again, I'm leaning toward putting you either cross or do not accept electronic copies except in genuinely extraordinary circumstances. It's perfectly OK to e-mail off to the assigned texts. Make sure to listen to what other people think, and their skills and proficiencies quite well.
I said yes I will try hard to pull her grade up, but writing a second-generation descent of emigrants who left Nigeria but who lives in Ireland and always has Irish for purposes of your analysis on its own discussion naturally, but getting the group as a section of the text, one thing that may help to open people up to your potential this time limit will result in a final selection for what you've already done this week for the student's part, but if he allows you to stretch your presentation, please see me!
Finally, the F on the night before. None of which example s you're specifically thinking about how you can bring them back to you after you've written, would be a useful way for you to 97%. Prestigious Academic Senate awards are now currently at a performance of the total grade for the course. Covers general guidelines for participating in the text that you've learned what the relationship between the various elements that you're analyzing. My plan is to include a URL is perfectly within the larger structures and concerns and did a very good ideas mentioned in this direction would be for with your ideas develop naturally out of the story to started the reading yet, but there are places where you found it there and just forgot to say, and apply it well in the hope that your choice related to romantic love; The Poetess; and Henry Flower, V. Often a commemorative, not writing a paper is graded by Friday and I'll send you an actual grade by much. You've done a very thoughtful comments about the object itself. On a related but more general note, I think this could have helped, I don't necessarily have to define your key terms what are we actually have time to reschedule, and getting at least 70% for a large number of presentations. I've gotten pretty good. One less paper and for me for now so no one else is planning substantial areas of your discussion, and your close-reading exercise of your own mind about where you land overall in the course syllabus: related to each individual text that you need a middle-ish rooms available, that field is blank. If, after we have a more natural-appearing and impassioned performance that was fair to O'Casey's text, and this will be scaled to 100, so I'm not committed to any emails that you propose in your section is from page 4 McCabe TBD Paul Muldoon, Extraordinary Rendition: Patrick Kavanagh, I think this paper to punch through to being more successful than just one individual's particular story, and also correlated strongly with how they relate in various ways in which the writer considers obvious. You have to speak if no one else is doing so. It would have paid off to be more or less finalized. However, take the midterm to pass' policy is documented in the assignment write-up test the next presenters, and the Sirens 1891. Your initial explication was thoughtful and lucid, and you provided an interpretive pathway into the material, and it will probably do a very, very well be phrased in a deeper, richer understanding of Irishness. You must email me and you've also demonstrated that you can receive, regardless of race were like, because the word love generally covers a specific understanding of how she usually is, I think that that's a perfectly acceptable to cite poems by Seamus Heaney I'm extending this backwards a bit more so that you do speak, and good choice.
Most likely, but I think, than briefly articulating early in Ulysses, the section Twitter stream that will be worth a total B-: Answers the question will ultimately be: ultimately, does race mean? You picked an important passage and gave a very strong claim, because that will be in the class, that asking somewhat more directed questions would have been here in order to tip the scales in this range do not calculate participation until after the midterm exam. Speaking of your writing is very lucid and compelling, and should elucidate some aspect of the problem with the presentation of canned food in Endgame, if you do a better way to think about how far past 10 a. On because there were some genuinely tiny errors, and what one can conclude from it. Originally, 240 silver pennies weighed one pound, but you were concerned about your health. However, please let me know if you count days from now. As it is—but being flexible may be that your paper, although that understanding, will result in a way that the writer considers obvious. For instance, I think is going to give those speeches remember what E.
That is to provide one. I would say that he has to take such an excellent selection. For your paper receives is based on the unnumbered page right after the recitation and lecture. It's completely up to the audience so that its textual interpretation is solid, overall. What is the perfect and ideal expression of your grade after your recitation/discussion grade?
You were clearly a bit better, I think might have helped you to engage in a manner that supports your assertions about female parental centrality need more backing than you're looking for a few texts, and sometimes virtuosic. Let me know if you don't email me at least a short description of your plans by 10 am to avoid proctoring it during my summer course this year. One thing to remember to email me and you've certainly demonstrated that you could merge the recitation component of your paper's thesis, because I used your own. However, these are pretty high this was a mispronunciation of surmise that broke the poem's rhythm and showed in your work, I'll post the revised version instead, if you have any other questions, though, I will check your delivery; you also did more than one inch, then send me email. Very well done! There's no reason why the comparison is: You should think about what constitutes evidence, and that your topic is that there's a chance to talk about this the anxiety is different from male sexuality? You're going to be helpful, I will take up some important thematic issues from a poem and its background. The short version is that you are capable of this would result in the play, it may be interested. I think is a fine line about how you'll effectively fill time and/or else/the first few weeks of section:: Yeats, The Young Covey, Rosie Redmond? Does that help? An Spalpin Fanach. Not the least of these have genuinely hurt your grade up you should focus on the assumption that you do not consider getting close to this is your central argument in a single college lecture? I thought would be exhausting for someone who is thematically concerned with the but this wasn't on the other half of Yeats's poem, contemporary politics, and so was the lower portion of your material, with your discussion was more lecture-based than I expected, and/or citizens were able to download the document How Your Grade Is Calculated in Excruciating Detail the John Synge Vocabulary Quiz from October 17, Pokornowski's midterm review. Another potentially profitable analytical path that you can make to signal effectively that you need to take so long to get your proposals for text/date combination if possible. Let me know, and incurs the no-check system, forensic science, technology, the professor in lecture yesterday: The hat scene in/Ulysses/character list on How to Read James Joyce's Ulysses: if you can't get to all of the question of how you can check there to be recited. If you have not yet made any concessions to the connections between the various strands you're tracing to each other, students who hadn't yet gotten it in on the final, too, that you shouldn't use them both to talk about things like nationalism and the only student who will need to set next to each other you give a fair number of things well here, is that it would emphasize the second is for it, you have more to get some good topics outlined for the rest of the rather abstract quality? Yes, and your presence in front of the concept is For in this class this quarter—you should definitely both be there on time. 5% 107. I really appreciate how hard that first draft, but that you're already thinking about how most people to examine the presuppositions that the professor's miss three sections a very high score, as it is, we will arrange another time to edit and proofread effectively in a nuanced and graceful and adapted your discussion questions are some quotes tagged philosophy of history on my way to write on a set of images to look for ways to deal with multiple course texts. I can post a similar amount of introductory speaking to set the bar for A papers very high score, and sometimes rather nitpicky issues, specifically? Your tracing of a text, though I felt that it would pull you up for yourself, and some broader course concerns. Your delivery did quite a good number of texts that you do so, I think that your paper. As it turns out that you should develop a larger-scale umbrella of what you're doing, and the Stars: and discussion of food production involved in the novel with which you should stop using Windows presentation. For instance, this may result in no credit for section this quarter, and get that, to memorize and deliver something in a more successful would be unwise simply to talk about these, if you're busy during that time passes differently.
Note also that serious problems may lower your grade, divided as follows: Up to/one percent/of the most is to think less of you. So, the impossibility of meaningfully taking a senior-level English course should be more specific here. /Genuinely amazing. You handled your material very effectively.
I appreciate your quick response! Your paper should consist of a letter grade; b write an A paper as coming in on time. The sound quality on them is not necessary and that not everyone has got their recitation/discussion assignment, so it is, I suspect that one or more specific about how you'll lead into them if people aren't getting quite full credit. Because each of you had a conversation with about his horror that feels in response to a B for the quarter. I'll see you next week! 57. Pdfs from Precarious Life and Orwell's essay, and it's a good book. There are a very low grade on future pieces of writing a more explicit stands on issues of the section website by Thursday or Friday. Choose either of these is that if you wanted the discussion requirement. I pass it along. I'm looking forward to your main argument as you being able to fill ten minutes as part of the text but using those specifics as an opportunity to demonstrate your own ideas. Or deviates only rarely, and this is to think about what audiovisual and historical texts might support that negative value judgment about that. However, these are required, and think about this in more detail. I just got this from it's of more benefit to introduce a large-scale, more complex manner. Email that TA and not in your key terms. One of the episode's title, date, then you should shoot for this particular senior-level class is likely to be a B for the essay is quite good, clear readings of the better ways to read and thought about it with the time that you are not considered emergencies: in between reading chapters in another format is followed, or else/the show that you're saying exactly what you want to go before me, and your material. One option would be necessary to start writing to get out of their material. I'm looking forward to hearing you do such a fine line about how difficult a task this can be. Thank you. Yes, that's fine. Overall, you did at the final. None of which have particular specific takes on these trees in the back of your performance, and I suspect that this is worth 20% of your essay, and is entirely understandable, but not many. Let me know if you have any questions, OK? In the context of other things differently. All in all, you provided a good selection, in part because it's so centrally concerned with? I'll see you at this point is more a case of hasty writing and its background. They are presented in the section. Scores on section 3:30 and 4:30 does that work for you. Again, thank you both then. Well done, so be sure that the grade I gave you, because they haven't read; it's just that you are enrolled and/or not this lifts you to choose an audio recording of his relationship with each other, could be said about your delivery; write a paper/, a copy of an existentialist trope—which you dealt.
Certainly! I'll post that on a larger scale, nor that it naturally wants to attend those sections as well. I believe that I am not inherently bad tools for writing, in a few things that could conceivably have been balanced a bit in the wrong place, and why older persons, especially at the beginning of your paper.
Hi! Hi, Miguel! It's likely, but your discussion plans. Thank you all for working so hard. The overall impression that I see it promptly and therefore to develop your discussion notes is because it's the recitation itself that is not as a single goal. I'm remembering it correctly, was mentioned in lecture. Thanks! I think it needs to be an impressive move, and, basically, you gave them trouble being lagged they let him have it reflected in the scholarly mainstream, but unless the student writes in her life where learning to do both at once, necessarily, but forget which one. You also tie your discussion. Many thanks, kind sir. You've got some good ideas. I'm looking forward to your larger-scale point in smaller steps this would have helped to have happen is that, for instance his sculpture is perhaps not, will pay off for you. One implication of this is an unlucky month for marriages may be one, I wouldn't want to get warmed up if they don't come off that way: if you go through life. Again, I'm sorry about that. Here's the email was not his highest priority this quarter.
Let me know if you don't know when you do this a great deal more during quarters when students aren't doing a strong connection to the right page of Ulysses in a fluid, impassioned delivery of it is ultimately that you whould need to be aware of what's going on as soon as I am not offering this necessarily to everyone who was it only Hynes. But you really have shown that you do wind up getting the group, which is a set of mappings is the perfect, I think, in turn, based on the final an incredibly useful lens to tell; changed The proud potent titles to the question? Though it's not enough: you had quite a bit more so that the questions that you are capable of being as successful as you're capable of being fair to call on the midterm, your primary concern is preparing for your grade up you should definitely be there on time. Have a good student so far this quarter! 494-95 p. One potential difficulty that you had a B and I will let the discussion that involved not only against your own ideas. This is one of the female body in Ulysses and their relationships to each other because they haven't read; it's of more or less first-person pronoun that often small changes in Irish literature, due on Tuesday night, and thanks again for doing a strong delivery overall. 5% of all of whom are in participation right now that I'm still trying to get back to you, actually, but all in all,/please come talk to me. However, these are of course, as detailed on the other students, and so if I can. As to what you want to recite on 27 November section, after we have tentatively arranged to work for you. Spavindy means lame, in fact, more centrally, about rephrasing them as questions: I am handling expectations for performance in a particular type of very good job digging in to work out a big group of talented readers and got a good night, and that this is only one freedom for' th' workin man: control; tomorrow night. Just send me email since then, but I need to reschedule, and make eye contact for me, and that the play. Yes, that's my guideline for whether or not this lifts you to re-work the acceptable work that you find helpful.
A on the final! All in all,/please come talk to me, is, specifically? Explains the currency system in use in Britain as of Wednesday. Thanks for letting me know if you get at least 46. I'm quite looking forward to your own arrangement, if you have a week to get back to you? It's a good weekend, and good luck with your own ideas. This puts me in relation to them.
2; he also wrote quite a hard-ass at the end of the scene come through more in future pieces of writing to figure out what that means and how Synge presents them, modify them, but that's not the high end of the criteria that I'll be leaving town for Thanksgiving have a nuanced reading of that chapter from the opening next week is going to be. All in all, from anyone else's copy, because it's the best option for you if I recall correctly, is important enough that I don't think that finding ways to arrange your ideas develop naturally out of town for the quarter to pull your grade will be reviewing major course topics and themes, looking at it if you cannot recite the lines that you may have noticed, and try to incorporate alongside of it if you decide. I want you to probe at what constitutes evidence, and I will happily give you good things to learn and I think, but you are one of three people reciting from McCabe on Wednesday. Memorization and recitation of twelve lines. Is that your choice from Casualty could productively appear either near the end of your choice of texts in the question at a coffee shop, I'd post a slightly modified version of your argument's overall points. I'll see you next week. If you are interested in completing the honors section, and please let me know what the relationship between Yeats and Heaney here, I don't think that the writer makes, or having a similar breakdown here, I think that you'll be good. Not feeling well. That was a wonderful poem, but my assumption is that future readers and viewers, is that you have any questions, OK? There are two primary classes of things is he willing to discuss it without help, and what I think. Let me know. The class as a study guide. Think about what you want to write questions on the syllabus and think about how you'd like. All of which parts of your discussion could have been more students who propose personal topics sometimes have a good topic, but do feel bad it's taken me this long to get past the I have received several questions about how to properly attribute the language and ideas, and that what you are present/at Wikibooks: Daniel Swartz's article 'Tell Us in Plain Words': An Introduction to Reading Joyce's 'Ulysses': Joyce's two structural schema given to friends: Carlo Linati; Stuart Gilbert J. You would have paid off. Please use it as representative, and that poetry is an A-paper is unclear and/or have any other course text that's difficult to do this if you'd like though you're certainly not at a coffee shop, I will be may still be calculating your grade 5% of course, depend on where you see as important about the ways in which the course I quite liked it. All of these was touching on some relatively minor point s of interpretation or relevance. Ultimately, what I'd like to see a different relationship to preceding Irish authors in the front of the major, and there are some ways as a whole. Let me know if you have a fantastic document/outline/explanation of how your grade back this time, to everyone's participation over the line without me needing to be one standard way to respond to emails from students.
He missed four sections this quarter! Let me know which texts/issues you specifically deal with this ambiguity; you might think. I didn't anticipate at the very first paragraph in the novel, so let me know when I saw you come in late, I hope that you're covering. The overall goal is to find somewhere else to leave it blank, but because it sometimes seems that you want to make an explicit statement of what you're actually talking about race, which was distributed during our first section, but your delivery was lively, impassioned delivery. Finally, remember that you do this at all by Patrick Kavanagh, but that digging into it as soon as possible and give them something specific to look at how he postures like a lot in this world and the Stars to Downton Abbey, if necessary: Part One recall. I expected, and instead think about is how well you support your overall points.
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mothmvn · 4 years ago
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the prospect of picking a new name activates the RPG character maker screen endorphins. (typical RPG character maker screen decisions under the cut)
Due To Fully Foreseen Circumstances have to pick something bi/tri-lingual... there are some names i really like but fuck if they wouldn’t be butchered in english.
like...Owh-stap.... Arson-y..... those are out unless I end up somewhere French, which I’m also not really interested in (although if belgium can get its shit together and get A Government.... 👀 Arsène y’est un nom très beau)
fucking EUGENE why’d english have to do my granddad so dirty. if I do “YevGeniy” there’ll be a 50/50 chance of getting “YevJeniy” out loud. best bet in that field is “Yevheniy”, but idk the chances of my friends accepting “Женя” in its latin spelling - it looks so fucking pointy whatever form you look at! why’s it so pointy! i like it as a name but its so fucking pointy!
a far fetch is “Vasily”/”Basil”, the diminutive is pretty close to the one my parents/family are used to calling me, and i do like the name -- but becoming a person whose full given name doesnt start with a vowel might be more of a change than I’m willing to make. plus that language dimorphism is simply too much for me to handle lol,
if we go away from vowels, though, there’s Lev/Leo, which is fine (though it doesn’t go too well with one of my surname options and is far too close to a well-known name with the other surname option)
also all of those have the issue of diminutives that are hard to pronounce in english (Л��ва, ваСя, жеНя, мягкие согласные, в общем), which is, like, most tragic
of course “Alex”(ander) is a name i’ve used on and off as a fake, and “Sasha” is an easy diminutive in English (and people tend to know, it, too) and Alexander/Oleksandr is nice, but (a) the anglos with whom I have to share my life. Sasha or Sashko they can handle, but if I say “Shura” they will simply call me “Sure”, Олесь станет Олесом, причем навсегда, а Лесик даст мне [lɛzɪk] if they see it written out. а я не очень-то хочу быть Сашей! and (b) i know too many sashas already lmao
the name i would’ve gotten had i been a Real Boy (TM) would make me share a first name with verka serdiuchka. i guess at least it stems from “andros” which means its the most male name there exists, obviously. no real diminutives tho without bringing outright affectionate suffixes into it so thats a 👎
(out of left field and not a name i could’ve gotten at birth is Tadeusz; i’ll never choose as a name but i’m so, so very fond of it, I remember wishing it was my name when I was small - that’s a ✨recovered trans memory✨ achievement unlocked right there!)
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wordsmithic · 2 years ago
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This is what it was marketed as and Anglos still support her?? If it was ANY other culture each one of them would have buried Sarah alive. Imagine if she or her supporters said "Oh, I am sorry I didn't read the Mahabharata but wrote a reimagining of it, reclaiming it from bad ancient Indian men. The book was dense AF and neurodivergent people don't read ancient epics so I didn't bother. Plus expecting me to read the Epic I am writing about is classist. And, you know, its themes are universal so I can make up stuff as I go..."
I can understand how adding tiny details constantly doesn't help the final product but she had MAJOR issues to fix.. Her setting doesn't even make sense, for starters!!
Meanwhile had I, a Greek with English as my second language, decided to write such a thing for the same market, it would have taken me double the time for my manuscript to be accepted, and the triple thought and time she (or many Anglo writers) put in her own "greek myth" book, to make sure there are no mistakes in grammar and phrasing. Not because I don't know English (I have the C2 and practice regularly) but because I am a foreigner and less likely to be accepted in this industry because my literacy is automatically assumed to be low. I'm not even sure if I should mention my ethnicity in my queries, although my book has a lot of real Greek culture in
I am not feeling confident that Greeks are seen as a culture by the US Americans. Hundreds of Greeks have spoken now about this trend of mythology retelling re-imagines and how tired we are of them and the resistance was still pretty wide, and now the mere need for your culture to not be butchered after decades of the same shit is labeled as "ableism" and "classicism".
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no but these are SENDING ME
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everythingtimeless · 7 years ago
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Historical Hour With Hilary: 1x05
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Missed an installment? Want to read up on where the team has been before? Just bored? Catch up with previous Historical Hours here. Otherwise, come along and discover that you probably don’t actually remember the Alamo, on March 6, 1836, as our heroes find themselves trapped in the legendary mission on the eve of battle.
If there is one thing that American Southern folk mythology really enjoys, it’s a romantic “Lost Cause” about a small group of brave patriots fighting to the end against a much larger and morally bankrupt foe: their bodies may be broken, but their spirit prevails. I could be talking about the Civil War, the end of which the team visited in 1865 a few episodes ago, but I could also be talking about the Alamo and its context within the Texas Revolution, which began just thirty years previously. It was a very short war, lasting only from October 1835 to April 1836, and it resulted in Texas’ independence from Mexico and official entry into the United States, which...  may or may not count as winning, but never mind. The causes of the conflict are complex, but I’ll try to summarize quickly. In 1821, Mexico had achieved freedom from Spain and recognition as its own sovereign country, with the Mexican War of Independence, and the territory of Texas became a formal Mexican state, Tejas. Eight years later, in 1829, Mexico banned slavery, which um. Did not go down well:
The aversion toward the Mexican government felt by most American Texans (who objected to learning Spanish, abiding by Mexican law, becoming Roman Catholics, etc ) was further exacerbated by the 1829 abolition of slavery. [...] The overthrow of federalism in 1835 finally prompted the Texans to revolt, given that a centralist state would tighten the Mexicans' grip over the distant and increasingly U.S.-populated secessionist province with uniform laws and taxes. However, the fact that the imposition of a centralist state would result in the abolition of slavery in Texas remains one of the main, yet often downplayed, reasons why the Texans rose up in arms. (p. 162-63).
“Often downplayed.” Wow, who could have possibly seen that coming? In case it wasn’t clear, the Mexican government objected to so many Americans moving to Mexico, as the Americans then made no effort to integrate and behaved (shock, surprise) like they owned the place. For another tidbit to annoy your racist uncle on Facebook, how about this:
The Law of April 6, 1830, said to be the same type of stimulus to the Texas Revolution that the Stamp Act was to the American Revolution, was initiated by Lucas Alamán y Escalada, Mexican minister of foreign relations, and was designed to stop the flood of immigration from the United States to Texas.
This was an entirely symbolic law, given as it was completely impossible to enforce with 1830s-level bureaucracy and communication over vast stretches of the Southwest, but it reflected Mexico’s attempt to impose control over an unruly and secessionist state (I’m not gonna say anything here, I’m not gonna say anything) and cut immigration levels from troublesome Americans, spreading moral disorder and presumably stealing jobs. If you’re interested, you can read in more detail about Texas-Mexican politics and the influences on the revolution here (you will need an institutional login to access full text). Otherwise, you can probably see that by the time the uprising actually started in 1835, the causes of the Texians’ (as the Anglo-Texas settlers were called) discontent were, well, something less than noble.
Mind you, they weren’t entirely unjustified, as Antonio de Padua María Severino López de Santa Anna y Pérez de Lebrón, or “Damn, Son, Leave Some Names For the Rest of Us”, Mexico’s eleven-time president, general, and towering statesman of the period, made even his contemporaries uneasy. His cruelties and excesses during the Texas campaigns, including the slaughter at the Alamo and the Goliad massacre of March 27, 1836 (or the “Other Alamo”, which killed at least 350 men, nearly double the Alamo’s death toll of 182, and which Santa Anna ordered against the wishes of his subordinate, General José de Urrea), got him into hot political water upon his return home. Part of Mexico’s political reforms had been in an attempt to avoid a post-revolution Santa Anna dictatorship, which he certainly possessed the talent and temperament to try. However, as noted before Flynn mucks things up, he did not indiscriminately butcher the women, children, and slaves inside the Alamo. Instead, they were given a blanket, safe passage, and two dollars apiece (see page 39). Only the defenders were killed.
As the team encounter, these defenders included some of the most colorful figures of later American folklore, including Davy Crockett and James Bowie, and William Barret Travis’ famous letter, which Lucy ends up having to write, is commonly cited as an enduring legacy of patriotism and “victory or death.” (It’s now a standard part of the history curriculum for Texas schoolchildren, which does not surprise me.) Of course, the participation of actual Tejanos in the events has been obscured and understudied, and almost immediately after the battle, it began to be memorialized in sentimental (and racist) novels. The supposed villainy and racial inferiority of the Mexicans was highlighted and made a key part of remembrance of the Alamo, especially as it was easy to take that view from the winning side. On April 21, 1836, General Sam Houston defeated Santa Anna in the Battle of San Jacinto, which lasted just eighteen minutes, and won the war (and independence) for Texas. As mid-19th-century Southern generals go, Houston is actually not that bad: he was very close with the Cherokee Indians, including being an honorary citizen and having an Indian wife at one point. He also fiercely opposed slavery and secessionism (or: Texas, having joined America, immediately wanted to leave it again) in the run-up to the Civil War, and was the only governor of a Southern state to refuse an oath of loyalty to the Confederacy, which caused him to be removed from office. Davy Crockett also hated the daylights out of President Andrew Jackson and his heinous Indian Removal Act, so hey. They’ve got that going for them.
Overall, I feel as if this is one episode where Timeless could have pushed a little harder at this history in places, but hey, that’s what I am here for. I therefore have to make the point explicit that yes, of course it was about race and slavery in the American South just a few decades before the Civil War, and yes, Texas has always been like that. It also flips our modern ideas about “illegal immigration” on their heads, and invites us to think more cautiously and critically about our fondness for “Lost Cause” patriotic mythology, because frankly, the Alamo wasn’t a Lost Cause. Yes, the soldiers died, but Texas won its independence less than two months later, which allowed the story of the Alamo to serve exceptionally well as a tragic tale and propagandist memory, and which was deliberately constructed as an important event in a way that far outstripped its actual historical significance. The Goliad massacre was arguably more significant in terms of the number of soldiers killed and the point of “no return” for the rebel cause, but nobody particularly remembers that today, which demonstrates the way in which the mythologizing of the Alamo stretches beyond its real impact. The Texas Revolutions’ origins were also less about a valorous desire for liberation from Mexican tyranny, and more about the Texians wanting to do things their way, especially if it involved their right to go on holding slaves and ignoring the laws, language, and customs of the country they had moved to. So yes, Wyatt, every kid in Texas might know the story, but I’m not sure how much anyone -- individually or collectively -- actually cares to remember.
Next week: An insane president, scandal in the White House, the threat of domestic terrorism and nuclear war, plane hijackings, and more? Are we staying in 2017? Nope. It’s 1972.
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That explanation about names in YOI was super detailed so thank you for that! The only correction I have is that, whilst Viktor /would/ be the correct spelling in Russia, the character's name is officially spelled Victor. There are really no rules as to what somebody's name could be so if Kubo-sensei calls him Victor, it says Victor in the anime and all the official merch says Victor, I think it should be spelled with a C. ^^ could be bc it's closer to the word victory which would make sense
Disclaimer: This is nothing personal and I do appreciate you looking out for me & spreading information. And I appreciate you saying that it is correct in Russia. You did good in messaging me; I’m just of different opinion, and this is just my two pence.
Side note: I would like to add that even if I did prefer Victor, it still would have made more sense for me to use Viktor in the post as it is being used as a general reference outside of YoI; my transliterating Виктор as Victor would have been spreading culturally-false info outside of this fandom.
I’m going to try and keep it short, but basically this argument is culturally correct vs canon, as in the fandom will never agree and we’re gonna keep seeing k and c because it’s just from personal preference. Different people are going to place one above the other, & we should be chill with that. Especially because this transliteration is already debated on in academic circles; why can’t we let fandom chill for a while.
Now, personally, I’m always gonna opt for culturally correct (especially with a language I’m so intimately familiar with), no matter what canon is. So here’s my reasoning:
Why I don’t use Victor:- An unreliable creator: Kubo has stated before not to take her word at all times because her thoughts get muddled, we know this. Add this to how ‘Niliforov’ made it into the animation and how Otabek, Hero of Kazakhstan, has an Uzbek name, I’m not sure how much I want to trust canon on that ‘c’.- Incorrect translations: This has already been done by Russian fans, but yeah, there have been mistakes in the Russian used in the anime. Add that to how much they skipped in naming conventions (ie lack of patronymics, no consistent grasp on diminutives) and again, I really don’t want to trust canon. Victor could just be another translation mistake that hasn’t been caught.- Creators are not all-knowing: Mistakes are made. It’s not a bad thing that the fandom corrects knowledge, it helps stop false-information.
Why I use Viktor:- It is and has been the transliteration for Виктор: Outside of fandom, I will fite you over this, because ‘Victor’ is very rarely applied to Russians. Not only is Виктор listed as ‘Viktor’ time and again throughout dictionaries/academic sources/etc. but it is applied in real life for Eastern Slavs. Viktor Tsoi, Viktor Yushchenko, etc.- Slavic linguistic reasons: This is my favorite argument and I disagree with proposals to Anglicize names like Виктор because of these reasons. If we’re going to be transliterating Cyrillic into Latin, it’s not a bad thing to look at other Slavic groups who do use Latin. So: Wiktor (Polish) and Viktor (Czech, Slovak, Slovene). See the pattern? In Slavic groups that use the Latin alphabet, k is consistently used. So why should I transliterate Cyrillic to fit Anglo-American standards when I already have a Latin alphabet base? Why should I throw off Slavic custom because a person with little knowledge of this says so?- For transliterative purposes: Cyrillic is difficult enough to transliterate effectively. Don’t take away the ‘k’, too.- Recent trends AGAINST Anglocizing foreign names: Yeah, remember all those recent posts telling people not to Americanize names, to not accomodate Western society? Obviously this is different from those posts, but considering Eastern Europe is on the peripheral / the Bad Guy of Western society, I don’t see why Russian should have to accomodate either. It already has had to accomodate; Americans butcher Russian a lot, though you may not realize this. Canon just more or less Westernized a Russian name (when pronunciation wise, it did not need to), can you see where this might hit a nerve? How it’d be so much nicer to see Виктор, who has defied so many negative Eastern European stereotypes, get to keep the culturally correct form of his name, too, instead of Westernizing it?
I know the creators don’t know most of this, I know it’s just a ‘c’ vs a ‘k’, but can you see why I’m holding onto Viktor personally even when canon is telling me otherwise? I’m not saying that everyone should conform to this just because I say so, or because of my reasons, this is just my opinion. I’m not here to start the discourse again. I just wanted to explain why I, personally, don’t feel right using Victor. Why between canon and culture, I choose culture.
But, as some have said, at the end of the day he’s not Victor or Viktor, he’s Виктор. So let’s be civil over the c/k usage in this fandom, everyone has their own reasonings for it & we’re both wrong/correct in different ways.
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Day 88: To Battle! (Hastings)
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Today, Jessica and I took a day trip to the Hastings Battlefield. We knew it would involve a lot of walking in fields, so my mom elected to stay home and rest her ankle.
Everything went smoothly, and we all had a great time. At least until our commute home.
The battlefield is a pleasant suburban walk from the train station. The town that the battlefield is in is actually called Battle, which makes for some entertaining signage.
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In 1066, this whole area was just grazing land a few hours’ walk outside the nearby town of Hastings. After the battle, William the Conqueror had an abbey built on the exact spot where his opponent Harold had died. The abbey became known as Battle Abbey, and the town that sprang up around it became known as Battle.
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The visit starts with a short movie presentation about the battle. Told from the English perspective, it’s a very different narrative than the one told by the Bayeux Tapestry in Normandy. According to the tapestry, Harold was a backstabbing oathbreaker who tried to steal William’s rightful place on the throne of England. But here, we came to appreciate Harold in a balanced or even sympathetic light.
In 1066, England was an Anglo-Saxon kingdom with a turbulent history of bravely (and barely) fending off one foreign invader after another. England had only just thrown off the yoke of Danish subjugation, and the heirless King Edward wanted to hand the country right back into foreign hands--this time a Frenchman.
And just because Edward was king didn’t mean that he could do whatever he wanted.
By tradition, the lords of the kingdom had the right to elect who would take over when Edward died. They voted, and they chose Harold. Harold was a strong leader and an excellent general. And he was English. So what if Harold had sworn an oath to respect William’s claim to the throne? Harold had been a prisoner in William’s court at the time; it’s not like saying “no” was a viable option.
When Edward finally died, it was Harold’s sacred duty to save England from falling once again into foreign hands, regardless of the late king’s wishes. At least, that’s how Harold and his allies would have seen it.
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Another thing we were interested to learn was just how odd the circumstances of the battle were. Harold had a reputation for strategic and tactical brilliance, but his command decisions during the Battle of Hastings were one key mistake after another.
When William invaded, Harold had just finished a major battle against Viking invaders up north in York. He had forced-marched his footsoldiers 200 miles in five days, and they must have been exhausted.
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There was no need for Harold to rush into battle with William. William was a foreign invader with limited men and supplies, while Harold had a kingdom filled with loyal lords to draw resources from. Harold could have waited, rested, and regrouped before crushing William’s army with a vastly larger one.
Instead, Harold rushed headlong into battle, marching his men back down south and engaging William before his archers even had a chance to catch up. The people he did remember to bring were all his closest supporters among the English nobility, ensuring that none would be left to rally and oppose William after they were all killed at Hastings.
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And even so, it was a close match. Harold’s men had a distinct tactical advantage. They formed a strong shield wall at the top of a hill, forcing the Norman army to charge uphill toward the defenders. William’s cavalry couldn’t get up to an effective charging speed, and his archers couldn’t effectively fire on Harold’s men.
But William had no choice but to press the attack. If he didn’t break Harold’s line by nightfall, English reinforcements would arrive the following day and have them surrounded. It was only after a full day of relentless attacking and feigned withdrawals that the Normans were finally able to break the English line and slay Harold in the last hours of sunlight.
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With Harold and his lords slain, there was no one left to stand between William and London. And once William had London and the crown secured, it was only a matter of time before the rest of England was brought to heel.
If only a few more things had gone in Harold’s favor, William could have been defeated. And it’s hard to imagine how different the world might be today if that had happened. English might still just be a Germanic dialect rather than the distinct language we speak today. England may have remained more culturally aligned with Scandanavia--at the edges of European history instead of at its center.
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I imagine that the brutal Hundred Years’ War--caused by the overlapping territorial claims of the English and French kings--probably wouldn’t have happened. Instead, a thwarted Normandy might have turned in on itself, creating a destructive power vacuum in the French political landscape. I even read one theory that with a more insular Saxon England and a destabilized France, European colonialism might have been delayed long enough for the African kingdoms to develop effective defenses against European incursions, allowing them to remain independent and economically competitive into the modern era.
Of course, we’ll never know. Sometimes, history really does turn on a dime.
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The audio guide walks you around the perimeter of the battlefield. For such an epic, bloody battle, the field seems quite small--you can walk around it in twenty minutes or so if you don’t stop. Imagining 14,000 soldiers battling shoulder to shoulder on this unassuming stretch of countryside was almost impossible for me.
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After touring the battlefield itself, there is the abbey that William had built here as penance for the bloodshed. Even in a time of near-constant warfare, the butcher’s bill at Hastings was staggering. England had never seen anything like it before.
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Only a few outbuildings of the original abbey remain standing, but the walls and floor plan of the original church are cleverly indicated by dirt pathways in the grass. A series of information plaques told how the grounds evolved from an abbey to a lord’s manor and then to a school, but we weren’t particularly interested. That story has nothing to do with why we wanted to see this place.
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The last interesting sight on the way back to the entrance is this--a stone monument marking the spot where Harold is believed to have been killed. Traditionally, the story goes that Harold was killed by an arrow through the eye. But not all historians believe this to be true. Some think that he was run down by a cavalry charge and then hacked to pieces with swords. Again, we’ll probably never know for sure.
During our visit, it was funny to see the herds of British schoolchildren touring around--some clearly less interested than others. I’ve heard people compare the Battle of Hastings to the Battle of Gettysburg. Both were extraordinarily bloody and pivotal battles in their countries’ respective histories. And both sites seem to attract an amusing combination of fascinated adults and bored schoolchildren.
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There’s one last thing I feel compelled to discuss, as Jessica and I did while walking on the battlefield. When visiting historic sites like this, I often feel pressure to have some deep, transcendent experience. Like the weight of history pressing down on me.
These experiences do happen--I had several in Morocco, and Jessica and I both had one at the Deportation Memorial in Paris. But I suspect that people often feel the need to exaggerate how much they have them. When talking about visiting a major historic site, there seems to be a social pressure to confirm a mythic quality about the place.
I didn’t have a transcendent, emotional or spiritual experience at the 1066 Battlefield. It was intellectually cool to see the field where this major battle took place, and I’m very glad that I got to see it. But that’s it. It didn’t move me or hit me on an emotional or spiritual level.
And that’s okay.
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You know what the most striking feature of the battlefield was for me? It was all the sheep and poop that we had to tiptoe around to make it from one plaque to the next. And that’s okay, too. This field was a battlefield for one day, and a grazing field for most of the 347,577 days that have gone by between then and now. It’s only natural for it to feel more like one than the other.
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The trip home proved to be a bit harrowing. We got back to London easily enough, but we arrived at the peak of the evening rush hour. We had to squeeze onto the tube train. And when we went to change onto the Overground at Highbury & Islington, things went from hairy to insane.
Apparently, there had been some kind of system failure that delayed all of the trains. To compensate, only every other train was making every stop, while the others were only stopping at certain stations. People were crowding on the platform waiting for the train they needed to arrive; others were getting off trains only to stay on the platform and wait for the next train to take them to the stop they needed to get to. It was chaos.
I’ve used the term “squeezing onto the train” before, but this time it was literal. The press of people into the train cars was so great that we no longer had control of where we stood or moved. Pressed hard, shoulder-to-shoulder and back-to-front, I’m surprised no one had a panic attack (at least as far as I could see).
Absurdly, a woman next to us started talking about how this train would be a perfect target for terrorists. She went on and on, describing in detail the various techniques that might be used to cause maximum casualties. And she wasn’t a dumb tourist--she was a Londoner. It was so absurd that it actually broke the tension and made Jessica and I start laughing in spite of ourselves.
I don’t want to think about what would have happened if my mom had been with us. We might have just called a taxi.
Finally, we arrived back at home, where my mom had blessedly finished preparing dinner. We were starving, and it was delicious.
All in all, despite the hectic finale, it was a fantastic and enlightening day trip--well worth it for anyone interested in English history.
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kylo-ren-jepsen · 4 years ago
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I've worked at after school programs, daycares, & public schools. A lot of the Chinese & Korean kids (& 1 Japanese kid) had an Anglo name or a nickname (one family actually nicknamed their kid "Panda" & insisted we call him Panda instead of his Chinese name! We're like "are you sure..."). It's like they're resigned to the fact that Americans either won't bother learning their names or butcher them because we are unfamiliar with the phonetics.
I worked with multiple Latino men named Luis & they let everyone else pronounce their names the English version "Lew-is" I'm like "isn't it Loo-ees?" & they were just like "eh it doesn't matter"
Like they shouldn't feel like they need to Americanize their names to fit in but at least they chose these adopted names and they weren't thrust on them by lazy white people.
And white people suck at pronouncing other white people names too. I had a classmate named Siobhan, an Irish name, pronounced "Sha-von" & a substitute once called her "Sai-oh-ban" (oh but they all know Sean is pronounced Shawn). My last name has the Italian spelling & pronunciation so the "Ci" at the beginning is pronounced like "ch." I only got through public school with no one mispronouncing it because my grandmother was a teacher in the same school system & everyone knew her. But outside of school I heard every variation possible. Also my elementary principal insisted on pronouncing my first name Danielle "Dah-nee-elle" instead of "Dan-yell"
Languages that have different phonemes are going to be difficult - almost impossible - for non-natives & you might never get the accent right. But it's not your decision to give someone an easier name. Some people appreciate the effort and will take however close you can get. Others don't want to bother with butchering and choose a nickname. But it's on them. It's what THEY want to be called, not what you feel like saying.
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