#angel x ramiro

[anewgayeveryday]

Today's LGBT+ Character is;

Ramiro and Ángel from 1899-Gay

Requested by @admiraleyk

Status; Alive (Ángel deceased in a simulation or something)

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Every time, they make the same mistakes. And every time, they die. Because they can’t get rid of their emotions. But that’s what makes them weak. It’s human nature’s ultimate flaw. One shouldn’t base a choice on love, anger, hate. They’re just silly feelings that cloud the mind. — 1899, (fuck you netflix)

[fatherramiro]

Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: 1899 (TV) Rating: Mature Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings Relationships: Ángel/Ramiro (1899) Characters: Ramiro (1899), Ángel (1899) Additional Tags: Other characters mentioned - Freeform, Speculation, Canon-Typical Violence, Character Study, Implied/Referenced Cheating, Implied/Referenced Homophobia, Light Horror Elements Summary:

"I am Ramiro Jordão. Born in Lisbon. Today is October 19th, 1899. I will be safe here. I will be safe.”

I can finally share my gift fic for my beloved @dragneto from this year’s Fic in a Box exchange!!!

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I know there are lots of theories about Ángel and Ramiro’s simulation backstories, and I don’t know if this one has already been discussed, but Ramiro’s dialogue at the end of episode 3 got me thinking...

He says all of this is Ángel’s fault, assuming that “all of this” means the fact they have to run away and that Ramiro killed someone, basically their entire situation. (And before I continue let me be clear!!! I love Ángel. I love his character arc and I love him and Ramiro together. But he is not the greatest dude and the basis of his and Ramiro’s relationship is clearly a little toxic and fucked up, so just hear me out.)

These are the bits of Ramiro’s dialogue in ep 3 that really stick out to me --

-“You made me do all of this.” 

-“None of this would have ever happened. You and I would have never happened.” 

-“And all because of you. Because you can’t control yourself!”

-“You promised you’d change.”

Based on all of that, it’s pretty clear to me that they aren’t running away because a violent priest found out about Ángel and Ramiro being together -- a violent priest found out about Ángel because he got caught with a man (not Ramiro).

Ángel is clearly made out to be a playboy in the beginning of the series, establishing that ~that’s just the kind of guy he is~ (how much of that is just a facade is up for debate). Based on Ramiro’s dialogue here, Ángel has almost certainly cheated on people in the past, quite possibly including Ramiro. And I’m using the term “cheating” lightly because the Ángel we meet does not seem like the kind of person who commits to exclusive relationships in the first place. He and Ramiro most likely just fooled around while Ramiro worked for his family but were never exclusive (Ramiro is clearly in love with Ángel and probably wanted them to be). Ramiro knows he’s done this before. “You promised you’d change.” When they ran away together, Angel promised Ramiro he wouldn’t do it again.

I’m guessing Ángel was with some other man and got caught, either directly by this priest who knows him or by someone else who then informed the priest. When he went to punish Ángel, Ramiro found out and also went to try to stop him or to protect Ángel from getting beaten again (because he loves him so much, my sweet baby). Ramiro intervened, things got physical and it escalated, resulting in Ramiro accidentally killing the priest. He killed the priest because of Ángel. Because he was trying to protect him. If the priest had caught Ángel and Ramiro together, Ramiro killing him would have been self defense. If they had been caught together Ramiro would never say that this was all Ángel’s fault. It would have been a consequence of both of their actions. And in this ep 3 scene, Ramiro finds Ángel’s drawing of Krester and knows he’s been with him. He knows Ángel cheated again and Ramiro finally releases all his pent up frustrations about how their entire situation is a direct result of Ángel’s choice to be unfaithful.

Add in Ángel stating at the end of the scene “I am who I am,” plus his dialogue from episode 2 where he told Ramiro he’s never pretended to be someone he’s not (a cheater a non-commitment type of person). Ángel was careless, got caught with a man, and Ramiro protected him. Ángel came up with their escape plan and convinced Ramiro to go along with it. “You and I would have never happened,” they wouldn’t be stuck together fleeing to America, literally depending on each other for survival, if Ángel hadn’t given in to his wandering eye and gotten caught.

I know it’s nicer to imagine a rose-colored backstory of them as passionate lovers who got caught together and vowed to never leave each other, but to me it just doesn’t match up with the conversations we’re given in the show. They’ve got a fucked up past and a twisted relationship, but that doesn’t make me love them any less!! The whole second half of the series shows us how much they truly love each other, and at the end of the day their real relationship outside the simulation probably isn’t as fucked up as this one, so yeah. End of thoughts!!

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So what do you your three favourite shows have most in common:

Well, here we are...

[cinnamoncountess]

Gonna pretend we're in another sim. 🫠

[cant-get-worse-than-this]

Writing stories in Swedish class and the theme is murder. Finally I can write the idea for Ramiro & Ángel's backstory that I got for like a year ago.

[professionallydeadinside]

18 with ángel and ramiro!!!!!

18. Person A noticing person B is cold and giving them their coat.

Truly, Ramiro would rather they spend as little time as possible on the upper deck of the ship. The wind pushed a biting chill into his skin that no amount of scrunching in on himself seemed to fix, turns out the clothes of a priest don’t do much for insulation. Angel had dragged him up to look at the supposed “view” which was turning out to be less of the ocean and more of the well groomed men congregating on the deck for some type of business meeting. Ramiro was too cold to care. He wondered if he snuck back down if he’d even be noticed by his wandering eyed partner, and if he was, if Angel would be offended by his sneaking off.

That was a risk he was willing to take.

Conscious of the reverberating tap the heels of his shoes gave off, Ramiro began to make his way towards the doors that led inside.

‘Why do I even put up with him?’

Not expecting to be stopped, he jumped a bit when his name was suddenly called out, echoing against the freezing metal.

“Ramiro! Where are you going?” Angel ran up to him and touched the other man’s shoulder.

“Back inside. It’s freezing if you haven’t noticed.”

Angel looked around as if it was just occuring to him that the weather conditions were far from favorable.

Unbothered by this revelation, Angel shrugged off his suit jacket and wrapped it tight around Ramiro’s shoulders. The warmth of his hands rubbing into Ramiro’s forearms proved to provide more heat than the jacket itself.

“Well, stick around until sunset. Dominic and that servant of his said it would look beautiful.”

Angel leaned in until Ramiro could feel his breath along his neck.

“And I want to see if it can even begin to rival you.”

With another squeeze of his shoulder, Angel disappeared back into the crowd as if he’d never talked to Ramiro in the first place. Ramiro pressed the backs of his cold fingers to his face in hopes to spread out the blood that had rushed to his cheeks.

‘That’s why.’

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AWHH

yeah i'm so normal about them

[itsalongwaytotipperary]

they may have been doomed by the narrative but at least they had gay sex

[cabinboy100]

1899: 1x08: "The Key": Prometheus Roll Call

Beware: Season 1 spoilers! If you have not watched all eight episodes of 1899 season 1 on Netflix, get thee to your streaming device and watch! Then come back for a quick review with some visual aids for episode 8. =)

This will be a review of the basic layout and head count in the closing scene of the finale. We see Maura wake up in a vertical sleep pod set into the wall of a cylindrical chamber. Her hair is shorn compared to her 1899 simulation 'do and she is dressed in a grey jumpsuit of the type that we saw her and Daniel wearing in Elliot's recovered memory.

Once she steps out of her pod, she takes in her surroundings. There are 16 sarcophagi in the cylindrical chamber. They are in four groups of four against the wall, separated by sections of wall with portholes. She begins with the group that includes her own now-empty pod and examines the room from left to right, or clockwise, as viewed from the top looking down.

ROLL CALL.

Block 1 (Maura's).

Virginia Wilson

Eyk Larsen

Maura Henriette Franklin Singleton (empty)

Krester

When she recognizes Eyk (sans shock of white in his beard), she is visibly surprised, even taking a few steps backward. Understandable, as the last time she saw him, his First Mate had shut him down and told her it would be "impossible" to bring him back. Still, I have to wonder if something else might be behind her reaction. In any case, she then looks down at her left hand and considers the wedding band on her ring finger for a second or three. Why at that moment? Because Eyk is her husband? Or because she must remind herself that she is married to Daniel?

When she looks back up from the ring, she turns her gaze directly on Krester, whose face is not scarred. Could it be Krester to whom she's married? Watch those seconds again, from Maura turning from the ring to Krester. It's as if she knows whose face she will see next.

Block 2.

Tove

Olek

Ling Yi

Yuk Je

Tove's sarcophagus does not appear to be any different in shape compared to everyone else's, but it's possible that its design might accommodate a pregnant woman without any outward sign or difference. Difficult to say, which means that Tove *might* be pregnant, but is not obviously so.

Block 3.

Iben

Anker

Angel

Ramiro

Block 4.

??? (empty)

Jérome

Clémence

Lucien

2099 PROMETHEUS MATH.

There do not appear to be any doors set into the wall. Once we get an exterior view, that makes sense. The chamber is one of several cylinders attached by their "floors" to a larger wide octagonal boxy base structure, ten of which are connected to one another in an oval ring revolving around the central axis of Spaceship Prometheus. There does not appear to be any inhabitable space directly above the chamber. I think this means that the only egress from the chamber, that doesn't lead to the vacuum of space, must be set into the floor, behind/in the middle of the ring of consoles and cables in the center of the room.

When we get a side view of the spacecraft, stem to stern, we see that there are two rings of ten octagonal boxes, and each of those boxes actually appears to be two conjoined blocks, and each of those blocks has eight cylindrical sleep chambers attached, four above and four below. Let's assume all the chambers have sixteen sarcophagi. If every pod holds a person, the ship carries 2 x 10 x 2 x 8 x 16 = 5120 people in hibernation.

The 2099 Prometheus readout tells us there are 1423 passengers and 550 crew, giving a total of 1973 people. Yikes. That's less than half capacity. Have we seen this scenario before…?

CAP: We're carrying barely any freight. Just like the Prometheus. Our cabins aren't fully occupied either. The company travels this route w/o making any profit.

OLEK: The bunkers are half loaded. Two are almost empty.

CAP: Am I mad? I know this ship inside out. This is not supposed to be here.

CAP: This is impossible. We're on a ship. How does a whole landscape fit inside a ship? MAURA: This isn't the only one.

CAP: It's as if all of this is somehow part of the ship…

If there hasn't been a catastrophic malfunction or accident on the 2099 Prometheus before Maura wakes, this *does* sound similar to the state of the 1899 Prometheus and Kerberos, launched with many fewer passengers and much less freight and supplies than capacity. And how was all that supposedly empty space used? It housed the backstory worlds of the passengers and crew. Does a similar traumatic funhouse await Maura and company in "2099"? Is this one virtual as well? Or—wishing/reaching—could it possibly be Westworld-ly physical?

WHO'S MISSING?

Everything we've seen and heard so far tells me that that empty berth must have been Ciaran's. Does Ciaran wear the face of someone we've already met in the simulation? Who of the 1899 Kerberos passengers and crew Maura interacted with is conspicuously absent in this chamber?

Daniel (Is he real? =)

First Mate Sebastian

Franz

Ada

Elliot (Is he on the passenger list of the 1899 Prometheus?)

Other travelers with whom Maura did not directly interact…

Garlic Necklace (aka Furnace Mulder)

Werewolf skeptic (aka Furnace Scully)

Mustached Adam Driver Crewman

COUPLED 2099ers?

Did the 2099 Prometheus assign paired/adjacent sarcophagi for couples and family who booked together?  The placement of the sleepers in Maura's chamber does seem to support the idea (for me, at least =).

Eyk is beside Maura. (Of course =)

Maura is beside Krester. (I mention it because of that post-ring-gazing look.)

Olek is beside Ling Yi.

Iben is beside Anker.

Angel is beside Ramiro.

Jerome is beside Clemence is beside Lucien. (Interrrresting…)

Mystery Sleeper (Ciaran?) is beside Jerome

Have to say, I'm a little disappointed that Franz was not asleep next to Tove. =)

Just wanted to get this info Out There in this post. Will save follow-up theorizing on the identity and whereabouts of the mystery sleeper for future posts, hopefully.

Wake up 🜃

Keep on keepin’ on~

[amoureuxpagespoussier]

талигойская баллада : рамиро х октавия. taligoy ballad : ramiro x octavia.

⠀⠀Octavia Alva had amazing eyes, Alan had never seen such an endless evening blue. The duchess did not go to the fiery southern beauties, nor to the stately Taligo aristocrats, and Oakdell remembered that Ramiro had broken off his engagement to Pridd's niece and married a rootless girl, whom he had met almost at the inn. ⠀⠀The scandal came out serious, but the ruler of Canalloa did not care about someone else's opinion. Alan Oakdell bowed ceremoniously. Ramiro quickly raised a thin hand to his lips. He loved his wife, there was no doubt about that. Not just loved - idolized, and she - him.

⠀⠀– Happy to greet beautiful erea. I saw it once at a feast and several times in the temple, but, alas, only from a distance. ⠀⠀– Octavia, unlike me, is very pious. Alas, the angels are supposed to, it is not necessary, to praise the Creator.

photo text:

Ramiro Alva – Traitor

Octavia Alva – Saint

⠀⠀У Октавии Алва были удивительные глаза, такой бесконечной предвечерней синевы Алан еще не встречал. Герцогиня не походила ни на пламенных южных красавиц, ни на величавых талигойских аристократок, и Окделл вспомнил, что Рамиро разорвал помолвку с племянницей Придда и женился на безродной девице, встреченной им чуть ли не на постоялом дворе. ⠀⠀Скандал вышел нешуточный, но властителя Кэналлоа чужое мнение не заботило. Алан Окделл церемонно поклонился. Рамиро быстро поднес к губам тоненькую руку. Он любил жену, в этом не было никаких сомнений. Не просто любил – боготворил, а она – его.

⠀⠀– Счастлив приветствовать прекрасную эрэ́а. Я видел эрэа один раз на пиру и несколько раз в храме, но, увы, лишь издали. ⠀⠀– Октавия, в отличие от меня, очень набожна. Увы, ангелам положено, надо не надо, славить Создателя.

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1899 + memes [1/???]

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:( what if the reason ángel enters that semi-catatonic state during the calling is because in a past loop ramiro succumbed to the calling and jumped overboard and ángel couldn’t save him and had to watch him die, and even though he doesn’t remember it his body remembers the trauma as soon as the ticking noise starts :( :(

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