#ange and beato
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pandapyaar · 5 months ago
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Umineko doodles!!
I made most of these last year (2023). Also still haven't finished episode 6, gotta go back to it at some point...
You can tell I love Maria, Ange and Lambda. I also find that Erika is an interesting character to scribble.
The last two doodles were my submissions for Umitober 2023. I did like, five days lol. The lambdabern one is also part of this challenge
Hope you enjoy them!
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azumi-kun · 1 year ago
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Umitober day 29
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a-step-away · 1 year ago
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anawkwardlady · 9 months ago
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Theres so much to say about this very real conversation they had I don't even know where to start.
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kushanna · 2 months ago
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i. really don't understand. what the difference between what beato does and what ange does is. witch ange can resurrect people. that's amazing. beato has been doing it since day 1
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izunias-meme-hole · 9 months ago
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When the sister of the man you just so happened to like revives your apprentices destroyed stuffed lion and now you're forced back to the game.
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And that's another counter for the Battler breakdowns, except well...
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There's only one way this could've ended at this point. Between Beato thinking and knowing that she's gotta remain in the role of the enemy at this point and Battler having the dedication to finish her after Ange got killed off.
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And
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it
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ends
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Horribly
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eevee-hime · 5 months ago
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Being a game master isn’t easy when it involves being privy to your whole family’s trauma huh
Also I SWEAR I started drawing that ‘sicko’ meme as soon as I saw that scene in the novel and before I started listening to ‘The Golden Truths’ podcast it’s just what the lovers’ duel made me think of
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timeskip · 24 days ago
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SO. What I'm getting from Ange's fight to believe in "white witches" against "black witches" that maybe I'm not supposed to be getting, is that in episode 3 Beatrice DID unlock more and different power by believing in love and protecting people and HAPPINESS. Like, the witch Eva is the symbol of the black witch (even as in Ange's eyes she's only taking that form because Ange still hasn't forgiven Eva...) and she was created in episode 3 from Eva's rage, pain, and desire to destroy everyone. And in that episode, Beatrice was able to keep going despite her power being taken from her... using the source of magic that is "love" as opposed to sadness and rage.
When Ange calls Beatrice "not a real witch" she's echoing a lot of what gets said in episode 3. But in that case, Beatrice faked being a "real" witch in ep3, as opposed to her true self here who is being called a fake. But maybe part of it was real in ep3, and it gave her a power that was able to fight against Eva Beatrice... theoretically?
And yet she still didn't have the love that would allow her to revive Sakutaro!! It was Ange's love that put this into motion, trying to protect Maria's love and happiness, to stop the burden from being placed on her shoulders!!! Because Ange understands Maria in a way that Beatrice doesn't, because Beatrice constructed the Golden Land to be with Maria and Maria alone, to create a universe where she doesn't have to face her inability to create the world she wanted through the game with Battler (because Battler doesn't remember his sin? Maybe? Time will tell)
In any case, Beatrice IS a witch, she DOES have magic, but she's unable to understand love so all she can do is use her rage and sadness to fuel what she's doing. At least that's how I interpret it at present.
Meanwhile, Ange can 'see' magic differently, because she's given so much love and empathy even to her enemies. She wants people to respect Maria's happiness, all the things her Onee-chan did to stay happy despite her circumstances and not push her pain onto other people... because witches like Eva Beatrice can't understand happiness of that sort :') But Ange's journey has been one of coming to understand this, and to understand what she has to do for both herself and for Battler...
I got to the scene where Ange lets herself die just to tell Battler she's his sister and that he needs to come home and I'm SO SADDDDD AAAAAA I ACTUALLY THOUGHT SHE'D STICK AROUND ON THE GAME BOARD FOR LONGER :( But it was a beautiful, painful scene... I'm technically not done with it but I'll finish it soon :(( Oh Ange... she may never be able to get Battler back, but she loves him. She STILL loves him.
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thegleampt3 · 1 year ago
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this entire exchange also means so much to me, beato understands how ange feels more than anyone — having your life be defined by unimaginable tragedy, having others force ideas about your family and identity onto you. (there's a reason bern forces both ange and lion to watch her game at the end of episode 7, lion isnt beato but its about the utter hopelessness tied to their existence, something they have in common with ange.) beato wasnt able to define her own life in a non-self destructive way while she was still alive and she sees herself in ange so much and wants ange to realize what she only came to after it was too late, but she understands how much hope and love there was surrounding her throughout her whole life. (just knowing about lion brings her unimaginable joy.) it wouldnt have been easy to change her fate, but it was always possible, and she's so scared of ange falling for the same learned helplessness that she did. the bond that they share, however brief, is so vital. knowing firsthand how difficult it is but in direct contrast to how beato once was with maria, where she gave into hopelessness for maria and decided for maria that it was better to give up on living and planned to take her life, she acknowledges how wrong she was and she wants more than anything for ange to find hope within herself and keep going, and in the end ange is able to do exactly that and is able to keep going and create such a beautiful and meaningful world for other hurting traumatized kids through her own writing and stories, even without her brother coming home to save her
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individuating · 1 year ago
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my #truth:
ep 1 = ep 7 (beatriceless)
ep 2 = ep 6 (furniture)
ep 3 = ep 5 (tools)
ep 4 = ep 8 (ange focus)
#.me#umineko#weird fucked up mirror structure tht barely makes sense. but i will try to explain in the tags regardless#ep 1 and 7 revolve entirely around beatrice without her actual presence#if anything in both it’s her lack of presence that sets the mystery of the episode in motion#one is the introduction to her story and the other is the conclusion of it. fairly straightforward tbh#ep 2 and ep 6 again have very obvious similarities in that they are both shkanontrice episodes#we also have the starting point and ending point of beabato’s relationship. starting with biting and killing and ending with marriage. waho#battler’s first real gameboard vs battler’s last real gameboard. i cld go on but the shkanontrice focus is probably the meat of it#ep 3 and 5’s connection is a bit looser… ep 3 is the first to introduce the braun tubes/catbox to fight using antifantasy#and ep 5 gives us the decalogue to fight using mystery. both give battler/the player tools to understand the rules of beato’s game#we also get ronove/virgilia on one hand and erika/dlanor on the other which are extensions of the tools/concepts themselves#ep 4 and 8 is self explanatory. theyre the Ange episodes and the endings of their respective arcs. both begin and end with ange’s journey#and her trying to find the truth. really theyre so similar in theme (+ content tbh) it is probably the most obvious of these#anyways. it is an actual mirror structure if you consider 4 + 8 as epilogues… <— strying to make it work.#thinking abt umineko at 8 am the grind never stops *trips falls dies
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mangomudkips · 8 months ago
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finished ep 6 of umineko and god i am full of thoughts (and prayers) for whats gonna happen next
i think(?) i’m close to understanding the riddle now maybe perhaps just a little
what a beautiful story of love this is
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happy10thousandyears · 9 months ago
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Sorry for inactivity I’m bingeing Umineko (10th day I’m watching it . On ep6. I feel like I’m ascending
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letztehexe · 2 years ago
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What if team white pigeon had a twitter?
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hidden-tea-party · 2 years ago
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this is after they've collectively beaten him to death several times too
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anawkwardlady · 4 months ago
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i saw an umineko ship ranking I almost did it but my ranking would be the most boring thing ever because most of the time with shipping im just "idc, cool but whatever" AND there was not all the options....
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kushanna · 4 months ago
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there's 16 things happening always and i feel like i have to look at them through 12 different angles to try and grasp what's really going on around here sos
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consider... if there's no witch. as in "no magical being walking around in broad daylight making deals with you". this instantly becomes severely suspicious behavior and "the virtuous part of me and the part that sided with the witch repeatedly fought each other" "the witch whispers" sounds exactly like any other moment where you have maria making a distinction between her mother and "the witch" or eva beatrice whispering to eva that she should keep the gold all to herself. also IMPRISONED is a very strong choice of word. hmm something something here hmmm.
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