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wendell-or-something · 2 years ago
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yessss literally this but he spends a huge part of the early story as Generic Guy Background Soldier. I literally only made note of him because grumpy put upon characters are a favorite archetype of mine personally. then he slowly exceeeds his expected relevance by, cumulatively, a lot... and then the backstory bombshell drops.
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there is... a lot... going on here... what was that john mulaney meme "now we don't have time to unpack all of that" now we don't have time to unpack all of that... compels me though
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piduai · 2 months ago
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One thing I love about GK is how often characters die happy. Edogai died knowing he was of value to Tsurumi. Ushiyama died assured that he's a hero. Henmi died... doing whatever tf that was.
With the revelations Ogata made before he died, do you think he was happy? I keep going back and forth on it :/ You have really good insights and recently did a reread, so I'm curious what you think.
no, quite the opposite of that, which is why i'm saying that his death was exceptionally cruel, especially compared to everyone else (henmi, usami, edogai, anehata, ushiyama, hime & oyabun, ienaga all died some sort of accomplished and content).
ogata spent his entire life convinced that he is lacking something fundamental as a human being, but only because he was born to parents that didn't want him, parents that didn't love each other, therefore created something utterly defective. he was attributing all of his faults and actions to that inborn inadequacy, all while believing that only if he could become chosen by his father, by tsurumi, by the army he could make up for what he's lacking - and if he failed that, only if he could take his father's seat, even through deception, to prove that his resplendent father and chosen brother aren't any better than him, that even he, who is such a broken, lacking person, could achieve their heights, making them meaningless. if he can prove that he is no worse than those proper, whole people, then it doesn't matter that nobody ever loved him and that he was unwanted by anyone, because the difference between him and those who aren't lacking would be null.
but yuusaku loved him, or at least tried to. and he killed him with his own hand just to prove a point, to test a theory. somewhere at the bottom of his heart he knew that he did something wrong, and asirpa, by being kind to him, by trying to love him, by reminding him of yuusaku, shed a light on these feelings of residual guilt (not towards yuusaku or other people; towards himself) he has been avoiding for so long. this is why each time he'd point his gun at asirpa, he'd hallucinate yuusaku's ghost - it was haunting him, telling him that he can't make this mistake twice.
but if yuusaku loved him, and he felt guilt towards shredding that love to pieces with his own hands, then it means he wasn't a fundamentally lacking person. it means that he always had a chance to be happy. it means that all he did - killing his mother, killing yuusaku, backstabbing people, looking for love in all the wrong places, self-sabotaging, running away - weren't actions borne out of his inherent inadequacy, it were his OWN choices, so him becoming the wretched creature that he is was his OWN fault. he has avoided thinking of all that his whole life but then the poison circulating through his system made him delirious, terrified and helpless, and opened all his old wounds. sure, it was a relief to learn that he wasn't BORN broken... but the pain of realizing that he MADE himself broken was too great, he couldn't stand it, he couldn't look at it, so he shot himself in the one seeing eye to free himself from it.
i think a happy death for ogata would have been being proven right by having asirpa kill him, have his theory that good people will do bad things if pushed far enough confirmed and him dying smugly and somewhat peacefully with this knowledge. but the narrative went out of its way to give him a gut-wrenching self-imposed punishment before finishing him off. so no, i don't think he died happy.
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swployxx · 1 month ago
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Golden Kamuy // ส่วนสูงและน้ำหนักของตัวละครใน Golden Kamuy
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อ้างอิงจากภาพเซตติ้งของตัวละครฉบับอนิเมะ ที่รวมส่วนสูงของตัวละครหลักเอาไว้
ผู้คนอาจจะสงสัยว่าส่วนสูงที่แสดงในภาพนั้นมีความแม่นยำหรือเป็นการเดาแบบคาดการณ์ ใน Fanbook เองก็ไม่ได้มีข้อมูลความสูงที่แน่นอน เพียงแต่บอกเราว่าตัวละครแต่ละตัวสูงและเตี้ยกว่าใคร เมื่อมีการเปรียบเทียบกัน
ดังนั้น หากใครบางคนลองเทียบข้อมูลโดยรวมอย่างอดทน อย่างน้อยเขาก็สามารถคิดได้ว่าตัวละครแต่ละคนจะมีความสูงประมาณไหน และน้ำหนักก็เช่นเดียวกัน
ดังนั้น เพื่อเป็นการไม่ให้เสียเวลา เรามาดูอันดับความสูงของแต่ละคร โดยเรียงลำดับจากสูงไปหาต่ำ...
Ushiyama Tatsuma (188 เซนติเมตร อ้างอิงจากฉบับอนิเมะ)
Tanigaki Genjiro & Ariko Rikimatsu (185 เซนติเมตร อ้างอิงจากฉบับอนิเมะ)
Kiroranke/Yulbars
Kikuta Mokutaro
Nihei Tetsuzo
Vasily
Sugimoto Saichi, Toni Anji, Wilk (175 เซนติเมตร อ้างอิงจากฉบับอนิเมะ)
Tsurumi Tokushiro, Koito Otonoshin (173 เซนติเมตร อ้างอิงจากฉบับอนิเมะ)
Edogai Yasaku
Ogata Hyakunosuke (171 เซนติเมตร อ้างอิงจากฉบับอนิเมะ)
Shiraishi Yoshitake (170 เซนติเมตร อ้างอิงจากฉบับอนิเมะ)
Hijikata Toshizo, Usami Tokishige, Sofia (168 เซนติเมตร อ้างอิงจากฉบับอนิเมะ)
Kirawus
Kadokura Toshiyuki
Nikaido Kohei, Nikaido Yohei, Okuyama Kantaro
Tsukishima Hajime
Henmi, Kazuo, Inkaramat, Anehata Shiton
Nagakura Shinpachi, Ienaga Kano (160 เซนติเมตร อ้างอิงจากฉบับอนิเมะ)
Asirpa (120 เซนติเมตร อ้างอิงจากฉบับอนิเมะ)
Cikapasi
ผู้เขียนเคยได้ยินมาว่ามีข้อมูลที่บอกว่าอาจารย์โนดะได้ยืนยันความสูงของอาซิรปาร์ แต่ผู้เขียนหาข้อมูลนั้นไม่พบ
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Ushiyama Tatsuma
Tanigaki Genjiro, Sofia
Ariko Rikimatsu
Kiroranke
Kikuta Mokutaro
Nihei Tetsuzo
Sugimoto Saichi, Tsukishima Hajime, Vasily
Tsurumi Tokushiro
Toni Anji
Koito Otonoshin
Ogata Hyakunosuke, Shiraishi Yoshitake, Nikaido Kohei, Nikaido Yohei, Usami Tokishige, Wilk
Kadokura Toshiyuki
Kirawus
Okuyama Kantaro
Hijikata Toshizo, Edogai Yasaku
Nagakura Shinpachi
Henmi Kazuo, Ienaga Kano
Anehata Shiton
Inkarmat
Asirpa, Cikapasi
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goldenkamuyhunting · 11 months ago
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Don't know if you do these types of questions but do you believe ogata was purposefully written to be/appear as aroace (asexual and aromantic)? His seemingly lack of attraction might have been just used as way to showcase how he couldn't be bothered by anything other than his father/brother/guilt tunnel vision or to further imply he was a "psychopath who felt no love/couldnt understand it (at least specifically romantic love)" but the author also clearly isn't shy about sexuality representation.
Honestly...
I think Anton Chekhov’s advice: "If it’s not essential, don’t include it in the story" is what moves consciusly or unconsciously many authors.
For many characters in "Golden Kamuy" to decide about their sexuality and romantic orientations has no narrative purpose (there are of course exceptions, for example Wakayama, who was clearly interested in males and this was plot relevant, or Sakamoto and O-gin, who in addition to being physically attracted to each other were their own brand of romantic, Anehata who was sexually attracted by animals and vegetals and Henmi who was turned on by the idea of being killed by a male so you might even view him into some kind of kink, while originally Ushiyama was represented so sexually driven by females he would be willing to rape them to get laid... something that later was kind of retconned...).
Characters in this sense are often in a blank slate, the author doesn't bother to think/plan if they have sexual/romantic attractions or not and of which kind unless it's plot relevant. If, through the story, it becomes plot relevant, they'll paint them on the characters, if it will not... it's everyone's speculation.
In Ogata, if he was capable or not to have sexual and romantic attraction is not really plot relevant.
You can explain some scenes with him being asexual and aromantic (and I know others explained them with him being homosexual), but narratively it has more sense if he reacts in a certain way exactly because he has a tunnel vision and all he can think about is his father... and clearly not in an incestual way, since around this, and not around romance or lack thereof circles the whole of Ogata's character.
Of course we could argue that if in addition to his tunnel vision he was also asexual, we could say this might have made easier for him to reach in a certain way but it's a psychological analysis that Noda might not have needed to do.
He already had an explanation, it worked with the story, he didn't need to dig into it any further. He might have, of course, but if that's the case I don't know if we'll ever learn about it.
So I'll go for the answer I'll always go with this sort of things.
I don't think the author planned it but, if to you it fits his character, by all means go with this headcanon. Who knows, maybe I'm wrong and Noda actually considered it because sometimes, even if it's not plot relevant, authors do make up details for their characters anyway.
Of course whose are my two cents, I'm not Noda, I don't really know what he was thinking when writing GK so don't mistake them for THE TRUTH.
Thanks for your ask!
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ruinikaido · 2 years ago
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I mean i think they turned that anehata shiton arc into an ova thats the worst it gets the semen detective arc will remain unaltered im sure
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kinkyoctopus · 5 years ago
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A discord pal posted that shirt and I HAD TO draw Anehata wearing it
nsfwish
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everytanigaki · 6 years ago
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teatitty · 2 years ago
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Can you believe I thought I would be normal about GK the moment I started mentioning it on main. Really played myself here because I truly can’t share my favourite moments without outing myself as having the most fucked up sense of humour ever lmao
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vacueabissi · 3 years ago
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osomanga · 5 years ago
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「ゴールデンカムイ」コミックス第23巻 アニメDVD同梱版 第四弾 CM
This poor Bear-san deserves a moment of silence:-
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May his soul have been sent off to the Gods by this century. 
I'm amazed that they’re animating this. They really, really are aren’t they?
That sulking noise Anehata makes...oh dear-y me, Seton must be turning in his grave.
We also have Kirawus nispa in his actual intro Finally 
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I’d forgotten how many so very epic Ogata scenes were there in this arc...
From the threatening to kill ‘em all, his expressions about the bear cub in a cage, Saving private genjiro, Emoting the “I can’t believe my eyes”, and ofc that epic lines that established Sugimoto the Immor al and Ogata the Explicit.
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...a lot of stuff.  
They better not pull a Barato and make it too rushed. 
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tr0llskog · 5 years ago
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THERE HE IS THERE HE IS THERE HE IS
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piduai · 2 months ago
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one of my favorite sequences in the manga bc like i knew about anehata, i knew about hasegawa, i knew about ogata's eye... but i didn't know about this and it took me completely unawares. especially the close up page lmao it came out of nowhere. it's a shame that usami stayed with us for such a short period of time because he's one of the best fleeting things this manga has produced no cap... a heavy lifting angel who got his wings cut short way too soon... and things of that nature. absolute specimen
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vinegar-doppio-official · 6 years ago
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Can I ask a question
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listen Im sorry if I come off as totally ignorant or something but this is my second time reading GK and once again im at a loss at this part. Ive been trying hard, but I just dont understand it, it totally escapes me. Why does Sugimoto refrain from saying “anything more”? whats the hidden joke? and why does ogata say that “all guys feel that way after they shoot their load”? like what exactly is he reffering to? that every guy feels the need to kill who they sleep with? 
Can someone in all seriousness explain these things to me because its super, super frustrating to not understand
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goldenkamuyhunting · 4 years ago
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FULL LIST OF THE KNOWN TATTOOED PRISONERS (23 OF 23)
1. Gotō Takechiyo (後藤 竹千代): Status: Deceased (Killed by a bear) - Crime: He murdered his wife and son while he was drunk.
2. Kasahara Kanjirō (笠原勘次郎) Sugimoto-tachi o Bikō Shite Ita Shūjin (杉元達を尾行していた囚人 “Prisoner who was tailing Sugimoto’s group”): Status: Deceased (Killed by Ogata) - Crime: Unknown.
3. Hijikata Toshizō (土方 歳三) aka Oni no Fukuchō (鬼 の 副長 “Demonic vice-commander”), Bakumatsu no Baragaki (幕末 の バラ餓鬼 “Lingering ghoul of the Bakumatsu”), Baragaki (バラガキ “Brat with a thorny personality”): Status: Alive - Crime: He was on the enemy side in the battle of Hakodata and therefore is considered a political prisoner.
4. Shiraishi Yoshitake (白石 由竹) aka Datsugoku-ō (脱獄王 “Escape king”): Status: Alive - Crime: Robbery was what put him in juvenile prison but due to his many escaping from prison to prison he ended up in Abashiri.
5. Tsuyama Mutsuo (津山 睦雄): Status: Deceased (Killed by Tsurumi Tokushirō) - Crime: He killed 33 people.
6. Ushiyama Tatsuma (牛山 辰馬) aka Fuhai no Ushiyama (不敗 の 牛山 “Ushiyama the Undefeated”): Status: Alive - Crime: He killed his master, wounded several of his master’s students causing one to remain bedridden for the rest of his life.
7. Nihei Tetsuzō (二瓶 鉄造) aka Kumauchi (熊撃ち “Bear hunter”) and Tōmin-chū no higuma mo unasareru akumu no kumauchi (冬眠中 の 羆 も 魘される 悪夢 の 熊撃ち “The bear hunter who gives hibernating bears nightmares”): Status: Deceased (Killed by Retar’s mate) - Crime: Murdered three thieves who stole prey from hunters and also killed them when they threatened to do the same with him.
8. Henmi Kazuo (辺見 和雄): Status: Deceased (Killed by Sugimoto Saichi) - Crime: Murdering over a hundred of people around the country.
9. Ienaga Chikanobu (家永 親宣) aka Ienaga Kano (家永 カノ): Status: Deceased (Killed by Tsukishima Hajime) - Crime: Killing a bunch of patients in order to get their blood and, from it, their youth.
10. Takara Tetsuo (宝井 哲夫) previously just known as Barato de irezumi ninpi nomi torihikiki sa rete ita shūjin (茨戸 で 刺青 人皮 のみ 取引き さ れて いた 囚人 “Prisoner whose tattooed skin was traded in Barato”): Status: Deceased (Killed by Wakayama Kiichirō) - Crime: Unknown.
11. Wakayama Kiichirō (若山 輝一郎) aka Oyabun (親分 “Boss”) and Wakayama no Oyabun (若山の親分 “Boss Wakayama”): Status: Deceased (Killed by a bear) - Crime: He’s a Yakuza boss who makes his living with gambling and clearly has killed other people… though we don’t exactly know why he ended in the jail.
12. Funabashi Sōroku (船橋 荘六) previously just known as Yūbari no tankō jiko de shibō shita shūjin (夕張 の 炭鉱 事故 で 死亡 した 囚人 “Prisoner who died in an accident in the coal mine in Yubari”): Status: Deceased (Killed by a mining incident) – Crime: Unknown.
13. Suzukawa Kiyohiro (鈴川 聖弘): Status: Deceased (Killed by Koito) - Crime: Being a con artist.
14. Sakamoto Keiichirō (坂本 慶一郎) aka Inazuma Gōtō (稲妻 強盗 “Lightning Bandit”): Status: Deceased (Killed by Tsurumi Tokushirō) - Crime: Thief sentenced to life prison in Kabato. He escaped and was captured and sent to Abashiri.
15. Anehata Shiton (姉畑 支遁) aka Anehata Sensei (姉畑 先生 “Professor Anehata”): Status: Deceased (Died of heart attack while having sex with a bear) - Crime: Animal rape and animal slaughter.
16. Toni Anji (都丹 庵士) aka Mōmoku no tōzoku-dan no oyadama (盲目 の 盗賊団 の 親玉 “Leader of the Blind bandits”): Status: Alive - Crime: Unknown.
17. Gansoku Maiharu (岩息 舞治): Status: Alive - Crime: He was initially imprisoned for dojoyaburi (t/n: challenging dojo masters and bringing them to ruin) and his crimes got heavier while in prison because he kept causing mayhem.
18. Doi Shinzō (土井 新蔵) aka Hitokori Yōichirō (人斬り 用一郎 “Yōichirō the Manslayer”): Status: Deceased (Killed by Hijikata Toshizō) - Crime: We know he was a hided assassin who killed countless people for a samurai who served the emperor but what caused him to end up in prison was merely the fact 8 years ago he murdered a man to get his wife back.
19. Sekiya Waichirō (関谷 輪一郎): Status: Deceased (Killed by Hijikata Toshizō) - Crime: He killed 30 people with strychnine.
20. Matsuda Heita (松田 平太) aka Dōtō no higuma otoko (道東 の ヒグマ 男 “The Bear Man of East Hokkaido”) and Heita Shishō (平太 師匠 “Master Heita”): Status: Deceased (Suicide) - Crime: He was discovered while murdering and eating a man while wearing a bear pelt… but actually he had killed way more than just one man.
21. Ōsawa Fusatarō (大沢 房太郎) aka Kanbō no kaizoku (監房 の 海賊 “Pirate of the prison”) and Kaizoku Bōtarō (海賊 房太郎 “Pirate Bōtarō”): Status: Deceased (Killed by Tsurumi Tokushirō and Kikuta Mokutarō) - Crime: 55 known cases of robbery, murders, injury, arson, theft plus many more still unknown.
22. Michael Ostrog (マイケル・オストログ) aka Jack the Ripper (ジャック ザ リッパー): Status: Deceased (Killed by Sugimoto Saichi) - Crime: around 10 years ago he stabbed multiple times a prostitute in Yokohama. He’s also responsible for murdering prostitutes in London.
23. Ueji Keiji (上エ地 圭二): Status: Deceased (He slipped from a high chimney) –Crime: he’s a murderer who abducted tons of kids and buried them in his garden.
24. NOT A CONVICT: It turned out that the 24 tattooed convict is actually not a convict but Kadokura Toshiyuki (門倉 利運) former Abashiri head jailer, currently Hijikata Toshizō’s loyal ally, whose tattoo is however incomplete. The image above doesn’t include him because this was meant to be a list of convicts and Kadokura isn’t.
THIS LIST DOESN’T INCLUDE THE SITUATION BETWEEN THE THREE MAIN GROUPS CHASING THE TATTOOED SKINS UPDATED TO CHAP 263
That’s because:
- Tsurumi handed Hijikata some real skins among the fake ones, but we don’t know which they are.
- the tattooed skins entrusted to Kadokura has partly ended in Tsurumi’s hands and partly in Sugimoto’s hands.
Long story short, we don’t know anymore which skins has Tsurumi, which skins has Sugimoto and which skins has Hijikata.
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samejimachich · 6 years ago
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anehata sensei quick doodle.
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golden-kamuy-shitposts · 7 years ago
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i call Anehata Shiton “the bearfucker” but that nickname fits Inkarmat as well.
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