#andy.... probably would not. but she will make all the room for cj in the life that they've all chosen and somehow that's MORE loving
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hi!! cj/toby or cj/toby/andy + love confessor and first kissđ thanks so much ily!! iâm really annoying so iâm going to send another request with these ships so you can do both, neither, or whichever one strikes inspiration
i cheated a little on this one, oops! also i just wrote a full-out fic for it because i wanted to. for this ask meme, which will be open until tomorrow. sorry about the angst?
but i could only look down (1.3k, toby/cj/andy and toby/cj)
They go up to him after his speech. The crowds are still small, now, easy to push through. Toby knows theyâll get bigger. Leo McGarry turns, notices them at his elbow, and pokes Josiah Bartlet on the shoulder.
âYes, Iâd be happy to discuss that with you later, but right now my jerk best friend is tearing me away. What is it, Leo?â
âJed,â says Leo, gesturing at Toby and CJ. âThis is CJ Cregg. Sheâs going to be doing our press for us, I hope?â
CJ has stars in her eyes. Toby knows the feeling. Itâs hard to listen to a speech by Josiah Bartlet without feeling optimistic, even stump speeches in tiny crowds. He canât wait to hear him speak on the national stage.
âNice to meet you, Governor Bartlet,â says CJ, shaking his hand. âI can definitely help with some of the more urgent business, but I still havenât figured out my long-term plans yet. Iâm here as a favor to Toby.â
âToby?â asks Bartlet, narrowing his eyes. CJ gestures vaguely to her left, where Tobyâs been standing this whole time, and he smiles. âRight. Of course. Toby.â
âJed,â says Leo, at Bartletâs elbow, and Bartletâs smile turns apologetic.
âSorry, kids, but duty calls. Nice to meet you, Ms. Cregg. I hope you can help us out!â
With that, heâs gone.
âNot great with names, is he?â
âNo, not really,â says Toby. âHeâs not a perfect politician.â
âBut heâs a good man, huh?â asks CJ, and doesnât wait for his answer. She knows him better than that. âCertainly an amazing speaker.â
âYeah,â says Toby, and clears his throat. âYou donât have a room, do you?â
âYouâve been with me since we got off the plane,â she says. âNo, I donât.â
âYou can- you can sleep on my couch, if you want.â
âJust like old times, huh?â asks CJ. Sheâs watching him carefully.
âSomething like that.â
-
âNo, no- no, shut up,â says CJ, laughing. âItâs not my fault that all the candidates you ever picked were losers.â
âI didnât- they werenât all losers!â protests Toby. âWe won a few elections!â
âMm hmm,â says CJ. âSo few elections.â
Theyâre not drunk, but Toby feels like it, exhausted after two cross-country flights in two days. CJ isnât tired enough to be as giggly as she is, but he thinks sheâs just letting herself relax after a long, long time. They havenât seen each other for a year, since she visited them for a weekend at their new apartment in DC after Andy was elected, and he knows she doesnât have any close friends in California. Somehow theyâre just as comfortable with each other as theyâve always been.
âWhat does Leo need me to do?â asks CJ. Theyâre sitting on the floor up against the bed, and her head slowly tilts to lean on his shoulder. He freezes.
âWe need someone to talk to the press, basically,â he says, trying not to move too much. âFigure out which issues we should bring up, and when. Get the major news groups interested in us.â
âOh, so nothing much,â drawls CJ. âJust everything.â
âYeah, just everything.â
They sit there in silence for a few minutes. Toby works up his nerve. âCJ-â
CJ must recognize his tone, because she lifts her head up and turns to face him. âNo.â
âCJ-â
âToby, no.â
âBefore I say anything else, Iâm specifying that that Andy is-â
âWe stopped this, Toby,â says CJ, looking at him like sheâs begging him to understand. âWe canât do this. You two are married. I moved away. Andyâs in Congress, for godâs sake, and youâre working on a national campaign-â
âItâs tiny!â he says, throwing his hands up. âNo oneâs paying attention to us. We can do whatever we want, and no one will care, because no oneâs even heard of the governor of New Hampshire.â
âThey will,â says CJ. âGod, Toby, youâre a writer, you know it. This oneâs different. You heard him talk tonight.â
Toby doesnât say anything.
âBesides, Leo McGarryâs on this campaign, and people pay attention to that. Josh Lyman jumped ship from the Russell campaign to be here, and thatâs not nothing. Youâre here, Toby, and you might be a goddamned fool but people know that you pick good people as candidates. Theyâll pay attention to that.â
He stares at her. âNew Hampshire. Thatâs whatâs stopping us, huh. Fucking New Hampshire?â
âToby, even without that, Andyâs been elected. You two are married. You canât keep- she canât be seen-â
âDonât give me that bullshit,â says Toby. âWe know how to hide this.â
âNot forever,â says CJ. âNot for long, even, not in Washington. Not when Andyâs going to be making noise. And you know she will. She wonât hold herself back, not for you, not for me, not for a thing that ended years ago.â
âIt only ended because you wanted it to,â he says. âYou know that. Andy and I-â
âYou two went and got married!â explodes CJ.
âYou told me to propose!â
âYeah, because you two living together in sin wouldnât look good! Especially with how much older you are.â
Toby looks up at the ceiling. âIs everything about politics with you?â
Out of the corner of his eye, he sees CJ put her back to the bed again. âYes. While Andyâs a politician, yes. While you guys are married, yes.â
He closes his eyes. âYou keep bringing up the marriage. You know we have a CJ clause, right?â
CJ exhales. âThis isnât last time. I know whatâs on the table. Iâm not saying no because Iâm worried about Andy.â
âI would hope not,â says Toby. âBecause she misses you. We both do.â
She doesnât say anything.
âI love you, you know,â he says, and opens his eyes, turns towards her again. âI never stopped loving you.â
She kisses him. It feels like a first kiss, despite the thousands of times they must have kissed in Boston. They havenât kissed in years. CJ stayed in a hotel when she took that trip to DC, planned things so she wasnât alone with them for more than twenty minutes at a time, didnât allowed any emotional talk, and went to the airport alone.
Heâs missed her, missed this, missed being close to her. He loves Andy more than breathing, but CJ feels like his equal in every way. He doesnât want to do this without either of them.
CJ pulls back suddenly. âNo,â she says, and stands up. âWeâre not doing this.â
âYouâre the one who kissed me,â he says, spreading his hands and laughing a little. âThis is all you.â
âNo,â she says, âitâs your fault, saying- oh, come on, Toby, donât look at me like that. This canât happen.â
âWhy not?â asks Toby, standing to face her. âGive me your reason, CJ, and Iâll stop asking.â
CJ closes her eyes. âThe American public.â
âStop- CJ, come on, why are you so obsessed with what the press will think?â
âItâs my whole job!â she shouts. âThatâs my thing! I obsess over what the press will think! Andy-â
âAndy forbade either of us from getting involved in her career,â interrupts Toby. âStop trying to micromanage this for her.â
âThis will ruin her,â says CJ, quietly. âIâm not doing that to her. Iâm not doing that to either of you. I want to work on this campaign, Toby, and I want to work with you again, and I want to get Josiah Bartlet elected president, because I think heâs a good man and heâll be a better president. But if you wonât stop asking me for- for this, Iâm going back to California.â
Toby stares at her. Finally, he says, âFine.â
âFine?â
âFine,â he repeats. âYouâre my best friend, CJ. Nothing else. As long as thatâs what you want.â
âIt is,â she says, and sounds like sheâs trying to convince herself just as much as him. âIâm going to bed.â
âGoodnight, CJ.â
âGoodnight, Toby.â
#loudwithlaughter#the west wing#twwfic#toby ziegler#cj cregg#cj x toby#andy x cj x toby#fic rec#sb and l writes#prompted fic#i decided to do this scene because it informs a LOT of my hc for their relationship at the white house#they love each other and they KNOW it and therefore everything hurts just a little bit more#also toby would absolutely give up everything in a heartbeat so he and andy could date cj again#andy.... probably would not. but she will make all the room for cj in the life that they've all chosen and somehow that's MORE loving#title is from 'six' by sleeping at last because that's all i listened to while writing this#i just have EMOTIONS okay!! i have EMOTIONS!!#i might post this on ao3 eventually#does anyone want me to post this on ao3?#it would be the first fic in the cj/toby/andy tag lol#i'm gonna try to work on your other prompt but it might take me another day!
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Cj/Toby - Fluff #4?
âShut up and hold me.â
This was supposed to have been out yesterday. It was also supposed to be just around three hundred words. Guesstimates are not my forte.
I had no idea where to go with it, so it ended up taking an interesting turn. Hope it still counts as fluff? Thanks so much for the prompt!
It starts with something stupid that Josh says, as many things have for so long, now, and probably will for the rest of his life, if heâs lucky enough.
Toby pushes him into accepting a guest lecture at Columbia, claiming that a few days outside of DC might do him good, and he accepts it, much to his surprise.
He hasn't seen Josh in a while, and the distance makes itself clearer and more acute while he watches Josh take the stage and command the auditorium with an authority he's never displayed before. A kinder, softer, authority. He has a gentler hand, now, a more apt hand to steer questions into answers and world views into realities.
He's changed, and later, when Toby asks about Donna, he's made fully aware of how much she's changed too. How much Sam changed. He feels a little bit stranged, then. Far away from the new world they've made, far away from them. Even if Josh is right there in front of him.
He's alrightâ he really is. This loneliness, he's used to it by now. But he's been wondering, these days, if this is what Andy meant, so many years before.
Maybe the question is apparent, because Josh saysâ
âYou should see someone."
He scoffs, âAre you really going to stand there and tell me a woman is the solution to my problemsâ unbelievable.â
Josh chuckles a laugh, âNoâ I mean. Well. It wouldnât hurt to get out of the shell for once, you knowââ
âWhy are we having this conversation, again?â
ââbut I mean a therapist.â
He huffs and grumbles, and says thanks but no thanks, and changes the subject, and two weeks later heâs sitting in a beautifully furnished room inside a brownstone somewhere uptown, listening as his new therapist tells him that it wasnât healthy â wondering why the fuck it is that he decided to pay any sort of attention to Josh Lyman.
âExcuse me?,â he says, half laughing.
She shrugs, âIt wasnât.â
Only he doesnât need anyone to tell him that, does he?
The White House, a traumatic experience? Of course not, he says, mouth full of barbed sarcasm, âIâve only lost my family and the better portion of my reputationâ not to mention any peace of mind I can claim to have ever had and whatever was left of my hair.â
âDonât be ridiculous,â she deadpans, âyou still have plenty of hair.â
âThank you, but I think Iâm still more interested in, you now, all the other stuff?"
âWell, canât help you there. You said it yourself, thatâs all gone.â
This type of frankness is something heâs more used to listening to in his own voice. And someone elseâs, but he doesnât want to think about her. He's managed to not think about her for months now, heâs not about to start.
âI see Iâm getting my moneyâs worth of good life advice.â
âTobyâ,â she says, leaning forward, âitâs gone. Itâs not coming back. And you knew that would happen when you leaked theââ
âThis is not about that.â
ââbut I think it is. I think it is and if you want me to help you then you have to stop trying to bullshit me,â she says, dead serious, but with an amused smile on her lips. âOtherwise weâre in for fifty minutes of verbal sparring a week and I'm sure youâve had eight years too many of that.â
It's after the first month that he allows himself to picture her face again. It's a memory. The day she found out.
"Once you said you lost your family," his therapist says that week.
"Yeah," he answers, "in more ways than one."
"What do you mean?"
And that's how he learns a thing or two about opening up and about emotional honesty. That easily. By just deciding to.
He hates it. Almost makes the decision to go back, too.
Then he calls Andy for the first time in seven months, instead of the other way aroundâ
"Tobias!," she says, before he can get a word in, "I couldn't understand shit of what you wrote in that last article, but I'll applaud any attempt at academically calling out congress on our bullshit. When's the next one due? Oh, and Huck and Molly are going nuts about the whole summer in New York thing, won't shut up about it."
â and wonders if his isolation wasn't a little bit self inflicted.
"Just because what you had is gone, doesn't mean you can't have something else," his therapist says. "Don't you have a new reputation, now? Haven't you found some peace again?"
"Hair's still gone."
"Well, you said you preferred the other things."
Can't have everything, he says, he thinks, to himself and remembers of her voice.
"No, no, you can," his therapist answers, having heard him very well, "Just can't have the same thing twice."
It takes him years to understand that one. It takes a beautiful, blue, envelope in his desk, his name written on it in fancy calligraphy.
It takes seeing Josh place his hands on the small of Donna's back, like he's watched him do so many times. It takes Donna's exasperated smile, her eye roll, the naked affection playing in Josh's face. The slender ring on their fingers that's somehow a contrast to the walls of the East Wing ballroom. It takes everything that's always been there being now so completely different.
It takes the sight of her, coming from the other side of the room in a green dress that makes her tanned skin shine golden.
The pain of longing is there, surrounding his heart, threatening to wash over him, but he finds it that he likes what the distance did to them. There's a lightness to him that wasn't there before. And her smile is brighter, somehow.
They walk towards each other like drawn by gravity â naturally, inevitable, painlessly.
"Oh, God, I missed you," he lets out with a laugh.
She laughs, too. CJ laughs the laugh of recognition, and it's light and beautiful and a little bit shy, and he's falling in love with her again before he can even name the feeling.
"I don't think I've ever heard you say something like that so openly," she comments. He finds himself shy, too. It's a delicious feeling, the giddy happiness that washes over him. âWho are you and what have you done toââ
âJustâ shut up and hold me, will you?," he retorts.
She steps into his arms, sinking into the warmth of his embrace. He encircles her tight, fitting himself around her and remembering the size of her against him like he would a rhyme from a childhood song. Uncertainly, bathed in tentative affection.
"Gladly," she says, against his neck.
The familiarity of it clashes with his newfound internal honesty, with the walls of the White House, with the reality that he doesn't owe anyone anything. "Don't let go."
"Wasn't planning to."
She clings to him, a little bit, unashamed to do so.
And he likes it best. Whatever this new thing is that he has now, he thinks he likes it best.
#the west wing#I won't lie this is some of my best writing in months and I'm a little bit in love with this scenario#I actually liked how this turned out?#hope you did too!#sorry that this wasn't a more traditional fluff#I'm terrible with fluff#but I'm trying to get better#tww fic mine#cj x toby#az answers#az writes tww fanfic#yesmadamepresident
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is this a prompt? is this me losing it? no one knows đ¤ˇââď¸
Nonny, you are, as ever, a delight. And Iâm sorry XD.
Toby is quiet. Â Which, considering the fact that in prior weeks heâd been short-tempered and snippy with absolutely everyone, prowling the halls and working too late and not sleeping, would to some people seem like a gift. Â But CJ knows that when Toby goes quiet, itâs rarely a good sign. Â
She also knows his divorce was finalized a few hours ago. Â
He went out, he came back, and then he stretched across the couch in CJâs office, and hasnât left. Â And it doesnât really matter how much she tries to ignore the suffocating tension emanating from him, she canât focus on her own work. Â Which means thereâs really only one thing to do.
âOkay, get up,â she says finally, powering down her computer and grabbing the blazer from the back of her chair. Â Toby just tosses the ball in his hand up again and stares blankly at the ceiling. Â
CJ shrugs the jacket on and gives him a look. Â âGet up,â she repeats.
âWhy?â Â
âBecause Iâm going home and Iâm not leaving you alone in my office; youâll get antsy eventually and probably end up eating the chocolate in my desk and then next week when I canât find it Iâll be very upset, so really Iâm doing us all a favor.â
Toby turns his head to look at her. Â
âYou keep chocolate in your desk?â Â
âYes.â
âWeâll get mice.â
âShut up and just come with me.â
Toby sighs and reluctantly pushes himself up off the couch. Â When CJ flicks the lights off, he shoves his hands in his pockets.
âI shouldâSamâs drafting some remarks for that thing tomorrowââ
âAnd Sam can handle it because heâs good at his job,â CJ interrupts. Â âYouâre coming home with me, youâre going to have a drink, and then youâre going to sleep for more than three hours before you show up again tomorrow, got it?â
âBossy.â Â A hint of a smile passes across his lips before they flatten out again. Â âYou got the good stuff?â
âWho do you take me for? Â Of course I do. Â Now come on.â
Itâs not one drink. Â Granted, realistically, it probably was never going to be just one. Â But at the point theyâre both on the couch in CJâs apartment and the room spins when she turns her head too quickly, sheâs pretty sure that means itâs time to switch to water.
CJ makes herself get up and grab some for both of them once they finish laughing at a story from her Hollywood days and when she returns, Toby is quiet again, aimlessly running his finger along the rim of his empty glass.
âYou know...I think I always knew she would leave me,â he says when CJ sets a new glass down in front of him. Â âShe was always too good for me.â
âThatâs not true,â CJ replies, knocking her shoulder into his when she returns to her seat. Â
âNo, it is,â Â Toby insists, and she thinks the room must be spinning for him too if heâs being this honest. Â âItâs what I doâI fall for women who are far too good for me. Â Andy, youââ
CJ nearly chokes on the sip of water sheâs just taken. Â âWhat?â
Toby waves a hand. Â âYou know.â
CJ suddenly wishes she was sober, that both of them were perfectly, completely in their right minds, because itâs the conversation. Â The one theyâve been dancing around for too many years to count because itâs never been the right time, because sheâs gone back and forth telling herself theyâre just good friends, that whatever her feelings may be, anything reciprocal is all in her head. Â
âI donât,â she says slowly.
âCJâŚâ  Toby looks at her briefly, then away, shifting back on the couch like heâs withdrawing into himself.  CJ grabs his hand.
âHey. Â Donât do that. Â You canât just say things and thenââ
âThere was this night several years ago,â he says. Â âWe hadnât seen each other in awhile, I had just lost a campaign for some state legislative seat but I got dragged to this fundraiser for something or other and you were there. Â You were wearing this red dress and I asked if you wanted to leave early and you said you had to stay just in case you were needed. Â So we ended up sitting at the bar downstairs catching up for...two hours? Â Before you were called to go back. Â And as you were leaving you told me to try picking up the phone once in awhile so that we could run into each other on purpose the next time.â
CJâs chest squeezes as her mind is flooded with the memory. Â âI kissed your cheek.â
She doesnât mention she did it because she hadnât been able to tell what would have happened if sheâd just kissed him.
Toby nods. Â âI had this idea in my head,â he admits, âthat I would call you and ask you to dinner and finally just tell youâbut I put it off and put it off because I didnât want to risk it, and by the time I finally did you were seeing someone.â
âYou could have said something anyway.â Â Her head is spinning again, but sheâs not sure the alcohol is exclusively to blame. Â
Toby tips his head and considers that. Â âWould you have wanted me to?â
âYes. Yes, IâTobyââ
CJ isnât sure if she should scream into a pillow or have another drink so she wonât remember this or shove him for being a fool or some combination of all three. Â
She kisses him instead.
One might think that a first kiss after years of repressed feelings would be like some sort of explosion, all pent up passion and aggressive escalation. Â But it isnât. Â Itâs soft and slow and restrained, as if after the initial contact the world shifted and they realized they needed to navigate the new landscape with caution. Â
And then, too soon, Toby pulls away.
âWe canât,â he says quietly, rubbing his thumb across her knuckles.
CJ swallows hard as she sits back, the world righting itself around them. Â âI know.â
âI want to, I do, butâŚâ
âWe work together,â she finishes. Â
âWeâre trying to build a better country. Â That fight, that goal...itâs bigger than us.â
âI know.â Â Â
Toby smiles sadly. Â âYouâre my best friend, CJ Cregg.â
CJ squeezes his hand and then gets up. Â âDamn right, I am. Â Come on, Iâll show you the guest room. Â I was serious about you getting more than three hours of sleep.â
She leans against the door for a long moment after he closes it behind him. And the world spins on. Â
#tww anon#tww fic#cj x toby#I've never actually written them before but I think it turned out halfway decent#chapel writes
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okay iâm back againâ SO i was rereading your tww sense8 au posts, as one does, and thereâs so many THINGS IM DYING TO EXPLORE. but. um. i forgot some. iâm the worst sorry! BUT: this. âif marriage equality existed at the time, theyâd have probably gotten married and toby wouldâve had a Crisis about itâ WHAT WOULD THIS HAVE BEEN LIKE I WANT MORE OF THIS. i love them so much. i wrote my first cjandy fic and THEY KISSED it was euphoric. ALSO 4x20 IN THIS VERSE. pls talk about any of this, whenever!!
HI BRO ITâS BEEN LIKE THREE MONTHS SINCE YOU SENT ME THIS BUT IâM STILL RIDE-OR-DIE FOR THIS OT3 SO IâM ANSWERING IT NOW!!
look. not to be that person, but toby is an insecure kind of guy. i love him but he is. heâs sad, and heâs quiet, and you know the reason why andyâs breakup conversation to him (in her dream house, right before she went into labor) broke her heart so much was because she knew how much she was hurting him. heâs used to being alone and he doesnât LIKE it but i think heâs at the point where he wouldnât be SURPRISED, you know?
this is all to say that he doesnât do so great, when everything is tense and cj refuses to even be in the same room as him but will kiss andy in the psycellium for some reason. He Doesnât Cope So Well, understandably. this is worse in an au where marriage equality exists.
presumably weâre working with an au where marriage equality is at about the same level as it is today -- so couples of varying genders can be legally married, but no polycules. in this case, we have cj less concerned about being seen with andy in public and more concerned with being seen with toby and��andy in public. iâm guessing sheâs still cagey and therefore the disintegration still happens (honestly, i want to say toby and andy wouldâve fallen apart no matter if cj had stayed or not, but thatâs a whole other discussion), which means andy is therefore available when cj finds herself living in DC with two (2) acquaintances she doesnât work with (and the other one is her brotherâs college roommate, so the choice is easy).
see i just think andy and cj get along in a way that andy and toby just DONâT. theyâre both pragmatic, although cj will get caught up in her emotions if sheâs not careful and andy is always ready to drop everything to start a fight. toby isnât either of those -- toby will just stand his ground for what he believes in, no matter how people try to convince him otherwise, and this is why toby works very well as a second in command and would make a very bad leader in anything besides speechwriting. (i finally talked myself into cj being chief of staff, as you might be able to tell.) (this, btw, still means andy couldâve been the shuttle leaker -- ready to start a fight with the bartlet administration about the pointlessness of military secrets if they canât use them to save people -- but thatâs a whole different issue. the main reason why it makes sense for it to be andy and not toby is that toby is, above all, someone whoâs thrown in his lot with josiah bartlet, and that means he will STAND WITH HIM in public no matter how MUCH he disagrees in private. okay seriously iâm trying not to discuss the shuttle leak here. ahem. GAYNESS.)
what this means is that toby gets into arguments with both cj and andy very easily, because heâll dig in his heels and ignore them throwing every argument theyâve got at him and god can you imagine how frustrating that is. but cj and andy make a very good team, good at compromising, good at showing affection (toby tends to lock up when heâs in a mood), and really good at choosing movies for movie night. (they DO burn things whenever they try to cook together -- toby and cj are the family cooks when theyâre all living together -- and andy, like toby, doesnât speak the language of the press the way cj does, but for the most part they work very well together.)
this is a really long description to say that, yeah, i think if we were in an ideal world, andy and cj would make the best married couple. it wouldnât be a good IDEA for them to get married, because toby would NOT take it well and obviously you donât want to get married if itâs going to hurt your other partner in the way it would hurt toby.
also?? i just want to say youâre a genius because i had never considered the angst potential of 3x21 (edit: completely misjudged the season whoops) in the sense8 au but oh MAN itâs painful. iâm torn between my love of that shot of cj sitting alone in her gown while times square streams past her -- versus a similar shot, except toby and andy are psychically sitting on either side of her, with tobyâs hand on her back and andyâs hand on her leg. LIKE?? THE ANGST POTENTIAL IS OUT OF THE PARK HERE YâALL, I NEED EVERYONE TO GET WITH ME ON THIS.
the image that wonât leave my head is toby, pale and shocked next to sam celebrating the motorcade maneuver, and at some point sam turns to him and asks âare you okay?â and toby, feeling cjâs pain and feeling pain for her, says âyeahâ because what ELSE can he say??? pain. pain is good. thank you for coming to my ted talk.
#andycjtoby#the west wing#tww headcanons#andy x cj x toby#claudiasjeancregg#sb and l rambles#sb and l answers#verse: and it's golden#tww sense8 au#HI YES IT'S BEEN LIKE A MILLION YEARS BUT I PROMISE I STILL LOVE THESE THREE#i put on lover to get in the mood for this and WOW miss americana is such a cjtoby song#also is anyone with me on ''are you gonna be okay on your own?'' from 1x13???#cj is defensive and he leaves right after and like. hmm#i firmly believe they were trying VERY hard to avoid impropriety in early seasons#and got more lax as time went on (and allison and richard decided to lean into it)#also the headcanon that toby and cj cook together comes from that conversation about chicken recipes#from 7x21 institutional memory#you are very welcome
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HEY HI WHAT'S UP so i'm almost at the point where i can FINALLY read the tww sense8 au, i'm so excited, you have no idea. so anyway- whenever you're in the mood to write for this verse- how did early cj/andy/toby work? how did they meet, and figure out they were in the same cluster (yes including will i'm so in love with him as a part of this)? what were/are the individual relationships like within it? literally talk about anything- any relationship- within this au, i love the concept so much. â¤
(the sense8 au in question)
hmm, okay, so as i mentioned to you i actually had written a bit about their relationship in some snippets that will probably never be posted. but i donât LIKE what i wrote, so iâm gonna change it, and weâre all just gonna pretend it was like this the whole time lmao.
andy and toby met first, as always, in boston because i am predictable. in this au you donât know youâre in the same cluster until you make eye contact without being on blockers (which are telepathy-supressing pills, essentially), so they had no idea it was coming, but toby is running a campaign that one of andyâs college friends is working on and andyâs there because her friend was supposed to go to lunch with her an HOUR ago and toby glances up from the papers heâs holding, and-
well. thatâs that. toby isnât so militant about refusing to get close to andy, although he does still feel a bit odd about their age gap and still doesnât agree to date her for a while. richard schiff is 6 years older than kathleen york, so iâm gonna say that andy was 24 and toby was 29. but, as andy points out: sheâs just as smart as he is, and besides, something in their souls said they were equals, and thereâs nothing he can do to avoid it. so they date.
they come up with some ground rules for their relationship. no blockers while theyâre together in person. no blockers without a good reason, because they both like being connected. if one of them finds one of the other members of their cluster - because the cluster isnât complete, they know, they donât know how big itâs going to be but they know itâs not JUST the two of them - they have to call the other IMMEDIATELY. both of them are idealists like that. they know theyâre going to share their lives with their other cluster mates, even if itâs not quite romantic.
and then about a year later, when toby is 30 and andy is 25, toby gets introduced to the new press representative of his latest campaign, a 26-year-old cj. and i think they actually even manage to get into an argument before they make eye contact - but it happens, and toby takes a step to the right into the office where andy has a meeting today.
âi found her,â he says. âthe third one.â
andy, forgoing any other kind of conversation - that would only waste time - turns to the politician sheâs meeting with. âiâm so sorry, somethingâs just come up,â she says. âwe found another member of our cluster.â
âoh, of course,â says the politician. he smiles at her. âweâll reschedule, naturally. and- good luck.â
andy thanks him and hightails it out of there. back at the campaign, cj and toby are still staring at each other. toby says, âyouâre-â and cj says, âcome here,â and grabs his arm to pull him into a broom closet, because you KNOW that was cjâs first reaction.
tobyâs still kind of staring at her, because letâs be honest, young allison janney. cj says, âare there any more?â
toby says, âwhat?â
âin the cluster. have you found any others?â
toby blinks. âyeah, iâve- yeah. sheâs on her way. my girlf- my partner, andy. wait, wait, does that- have YOU found any others?â
cj shakes her head. ânot yet. iâm cj, by the way.â
âtoby ziegler.â
andy breaks SEVERAL traffic laws but gets to the campaign in a record ten minutes, which by the way are possibly the most awkward ten minutes of both cj and tobyâs lives. she makes a beeline for the broom closet and makes instant eye contact with cj, because she is NOT going to lose this connection.
later, cj will think that thatâs about when she fell in love.
itâs 1985, and bartlet is elected in 1998, so they still have a ways to go. they eventually fall into a collective relationship, as andy and toby realize that their relationship is never going to be able to return to a pre-cj dynamic. they met her a year after each other, but sheâs just as important to the relationship as the two of them are.
cj moves to california eventually, fed up and cynical about the public sector. she takes a job with a media consultation firm, as she does in every world, theyâre better at communication in this au. hard to be bad at it when you share a soul, bodies, talents. andy and toby move back to andyâs home state of maryland and andy starts to get closer to her goal of running for congress, while toby just keeps losing campaigns for honest politicians. iâll say that cj moves to california in 1992, and toby and andy get married in 1993.
itâs a lot easier for you to stay in contact when youâre in a cluster. cj watches tv with toby and andy every night. itâs less of a breakup, in this au, and more of cj saying âi want to go work in california, and we have to be more carefulâ. sheâll only do romantic things in the psycellium, which is where, say, andy would perceive her if cj was visiting telepathically. no one else can see her, is the point. but she sits on their couch and watches tv with them and heckles toby when he makes dinner and goes to lunches with andy, where she sits on one side of the table and eats while andy makes herself at home in the other chair.
and itâs not great but it WORKS, and it works until jed bartlet calls them all in and cj closes herself off even MORE for the sake of andyâs career and andy and tobyâs marriage falls apart. and then we get to their approximate relationships in canon.
toby and andy are divorced and spend a couple of years not speaking, but theyâre still CLUSTERMATES and that MEANS something. they still hold to their rule of no blockers when in the same room and, once they start talking again (i think around mid s1), they start talking to each other for comfort and catharsis. oftentimes theyâll argue to get out their frustration with everyone else in their lives. it works.
toby and cj are as non-flirty as cj can manage, which is to say that theyâre at canon levels of flirting. i would say itâs PRETTY FLIRTY. theyâre keeping their cluster under wraps, and theyâre even pretty good at it. senior staff knows because one time they got REALLY drunk during the campaign and had a conversation at normal volume about the boston globe. from opposite ends of a bar. but most of the press doesnât know, except MAYBE danny, and they do their best to keep it that way. exceptions are at rosslyn and other situations like that.
neither of them generally take blockers, so tobyâs attempts at briefing are SLIGHTLY less catastrophic than in canon, since cj can stand next to him and quietly advise. she doesnât take over his body to do it, though, and they try to limit her advice, since it can get really obvious really quickly. toby takes blockers whenever they hide something from cj.
and cj and andy... are the most romantic of the three, just because cj and toby can get away with flirting and cj KNOWS that toby knows she loves him, but andy has always been better about physical affection - and they generally see each other in the psycellium, anyway. (look, i just want them to KISS.) if marriage equality existed at the time, theyâd have probably gotten married and toby wouldâve had a Crisis about it, but it didnât and they donât. they only very rarely see each other in public, generally at balls and the like, during which they both have to pretend theyâre not about to burst out laughing. someone ALWAYS tries to introduce them, assuming theyâve never met before, and itâs worth it for the simultaneous âoh, no, weâve met.â itâs explained by âcj was tobyâs best friend while he was dating andyâ, but you and i know the Truth.
okay, and then sam goes to california and meets a spirited young speechwriter and sends him back to the west wing, and he walks into tobyâs office first.
toby looks up, meets willâs eyes, and something clicks into place. the last piece of the puzzle. the last member of their cluster. and toby goes, âoh no.â
will says, âuh- can we just. uh.â
âcome in,â says toby, sighing and waving a hand. âweâll handle that later. you have an appointment, right?â
they have their canon conversation, in which toby critiques willâs writing and refuses his help on the inauguration speech, and blah blah blah we get to the end of the episode where theyâve both revealed that they respect each other.
itâs the middle of the night, two days after they met, theyâre sitting in the mess hall writing, when will goes, âand the cluster thing?â
âwhat?â says toby, glancing up. âoh, yeah. thereâs two more of us. iâve gotta introduce you.â
âi went home and looked it up,â says will. âthereâs nothing on your cluster anywhere.â
âyeah, well, thatâs on purpose,â says toby. âand itâs yours too, now. do you know cj cregg?â
he introduces will to cj the next morning, then gets andy to come into the west wing so she can pass will in the hallway and meet eyes with him. theyâre very serious about keeping their cluster under wraps, and it would look REALLY suspicious if toby zieglerâs ex-wife came to the white house to meet the california speechwriter that sam seaborn recommended after two months of casual acquaintance. donna is the only one who notices it, but thatâs another story.
the dynamics: toby and will are basically the same as in canon, complete with the s6-7 Riftâ˘. toby isnât as comfortable with will, hasnât known him for as long, but they understand each other. theyâre both writers. itâs something that andy and cj donât know, even if they love toby more than will ever will.
as for cj and andy, they basically adopt will as their brother and move on. will and cj canât be seen getting too cozy, but they talk through problems with each other a lot. andy and will canât be seen in public together at ALL, but they make it a point to sit with each other in the evenings while theyâre doing paperwork or reading or writing. it goes more easily with company, and they want to get to know each other.
and everythingâs well and good and happy until toby commits treason. but thatâs another story altogether.
#loudwithlaughter#the west wing#twwfic#toby ziegler#cj cregg#andy wyatt#will bailey#andy x cj x toby#the stupidly noble cluster#verse: and it's golden#aaah thank you SO much for this ask i had SO MUCH FUN WITH IT#<3 <3 <3#sb and l rambles#sb and l writes#i enjoyed this SO MUCH#i might count this as The Magnum Opus lmao because it's. ahem. long#and also it kinda sums up the main points lmao#tww ideas#i just want to write about cj and andy pretending not to know each other at balls T.T#is that too much to ASK???
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