#and while i think sjs was 100% telling himself all the time this is Just Business given how apparently starved for human connections he was
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slams hand down do it you know you want to do it,,, sugar daddy au and now its just awkward as fuck but they get to Deal with It. bonus points for people laughing at them in the background. i am your inner demon whispering that this is a good idea and you should absolutely write it (no pressure ofc!!! take your time and its fine if you want to!!!)
for ship names. yeah very sad. i havent settled on like. a combination of their names that sound appealing to me so im just. sitting there awkwardly in Yun Taeheon x Shin Junseo. simple but it works. ill bonk my brain for ideas later,, i have cut down on thigns i need to hand in tomorrow im procrastinating because the thing i need to do is so horribly boring
maybe the korean side of the fandom has something going on but that would require me to go on twitter and figure out what korean words to put in the search box and I'm already failing at "go on twitter".
sdkhldfkhg the inner demons are winning. now I'm kinda contemplating how this would even start, which made me realize we know fuck all about Shin Junseo's past??? We only knew that apparently he had a shitty job before he awakened and didn't have any friends and seemingly also has no family.
So like? Local man signs up on an app bc honestly at this point being a sugar baby would not be worse than another horrible shift at whatever minimum wage job he has to pay the bills?
And cool, he hits it off with Yun Taeheon, something something business man. It's a lot less hollywood-pretty-woman than he expected, more nice dinners with genuinely entertaining discussions, and sure getting laid is nice too, and then, well, the world goes to shit for a hot second and well, the contract written before runs out, isn't renewed and Shin Junseo has a moment between picking up a shitty job again and awakening where he comfortably lives on his savings while his,,, ex? well, no, ex would be implying they dated. boss is also not quite the term, his previous situationship, made himself a guild master.
whatever.
and then the world goes even more to shit and he drags corpses and the memories of a world annihilated out of a dungeon. He makes his plan, keeps his head down and then fucking Yun Taeheon is standing in front of him again.
#ask#anon#weapon creator#btw i need you to know that i think YTH would be the one who is most awkward about it#like oh no that's the guy he was paying to spend time with bc he's a loser who can't find someone he'd like to date like a normal person#side note: i think yth is the kinda guy who'd text you at 1am like 'what flowers do i bring to meet your mom for the 1st time'#and while i think sjs was 100% telling himself all the time this is Just Business given how apparently starved for human connections he was#yth was probably genuinely going 'should i talk about just. being in a relationship with him?????' a couple months in#step 1 of being a sugar daddy FAILED#ANYWAY and he probably thinks 'okay i can play this cool'#and then sjs takes a look at the first contract he drew up#and says sth like 'oh wow you'd pay me more now' and yth would simply perish#sjs meanwhile is just awkward bc he suddenly has a lot more 'power' and is specifically wanted#god im so obsessed with how the only thing sjs wanted was to be useful and a friend#insane trauma to toss into the start of a story#dlfghdlfjkh anyway i am so sorry im just rambling
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Additional propaganda from the notes for Mo Ran:
Mo Ran absolutely deserves this more, he is the Truer shizunfucker. Fucked his shizun in multiple lifetimes!!!!
Mo Ran is like, objectively better at fucking his shizun, on account of being good at sex and having multiple lifetimes in which to practice on CWN.
Mo Ran did not tell wanning to watch him fuck himto death for binghe to beat him I’m sorry.
There is a reason why modern AU bingqiu fics usually make shen yuan like binghe’s TA at most, while modern AU ranwan fics always commit to making chu wanning mo ran’s professor or something. Vote Mo Ran!!!!
#obviously it's Mo Ran#because there's two of him and they're BOTH shizunfuckers#he is the supreme the ultimate the nonpareil
#listen im only on volume 2 of erha but mo ran should win#mo ran takes the fuck in shizunfucker to whole new levels
#but i had to go for mo ran#on account of his particular levels of horniness over his shizun at all times
#mo ran however. even at the height of his hatred for his shizun was still balls to the wall insanely horny about him#even when he believed himself in love with someone else he was STILL HORNY FOR CWN ALL THE FUCKING TIME#mo “ill fuck you to death” ran#i also believe the phrasing specifically is more on point for mo ran
#Meanwhile Mo Ran fucks his shizun in two timelines and even with his two personalities in the same timeline! And he fucks him so good-#His Taxian-Jun persona would never stop fucking Chu Wanning. Source: 2ha novel. It's in there.#There are many many instances of Mo Ran describing his shizun while referencing something about when they fucked#i'm remembering that passage about the size of his shizun mouth and how he created perfect sized candies based on when he sucked him#and looking at the motifs and themes of the narrative of 2ha fucking is a great deal for the protagonists#it is by connecting through sex that they discover they can also be loved
#I’ve read all of svsss and only 2.5 volumes of 2ha so far and hands down mo ran is the ultimate shizun fucker
I'd even argue that Mo Ran wanted to fuck Chu Wanning even more BECAUSE he was his shizun, whereas Binghe fucking his shizun was more a happy accident
#erha#like mo ran got a whole power dynamic kink going on#the winner is clear
#mo ran did not married his shizun 3 times and went litterally to hell to save him
#i think ill go with moran because hes just#such a shizunfucker through and through#he saw cwn#and his mind was set#'hole is goal'#or smth idk#also erha has shizun in teh title#so checkmate-#jks aside i think also because cwn is more a shizun to mr than sqq was#or rather cwn taught mr very basic skills etc. while i remember sqq bullshitting his way through more often than not
#Having said that Mo Ran is 100% the bigger shizun-fucker#Yeah LBH loves SY!SQQ and is highly and unhealthily obsessed with him but have you SEEN Mo Ran?#Mo Ran loved CWN in 2 lives despite being convinced it was mutual hatred in the first life#he captured him and ''hate''-fucked him for YEARS in his first life#on his wedding night he ditched his wife in the bedroom and went to fuck CWN instead#LBH kept his shizun's corpse preserved for years? So did Mo Ran! (though I concede that I don't recall him cuddling it to sleep)#Anyway! Mo Ran literally chose CWN to be his shizun because he thought he was pretty#When CWN was harsh on him and condemned him and shit (and MR took it as abuse) he still loved him (despite thinking it was mutual hate)#When SJ!SQQ abused and condemned LBH he despised the man and tortured and killed him#In MR's 2nd life when he understands CWN more and doesn't think what he feels is hatred he's kinda obvious another character casts a spell#on him that makes him pursue his true love or some shit (thinking he'll go after his love from his previous life) he just continues being#obsessed with CWN!#He completely neglects his ''love'' from his previous life including their friendship because he's so down bad for CWN#In the 5 years CWN is being brought back from the dead MR gets a blank book made with enough pages to write him a letter every single day#(which he does!) and then he has to get more paper because he ran out of space!#He also starts dressing like CWN to the point that when they're reunited in a hot spring bath CWN mistakes MR's robes for his own#When MR can't make it back in time for the celebration CWN waking from the dead he uses an emergency firework to paint a greeting across th#sky from hundreds of miles away#He's down bad#and for 2 whole lifetimes!
#mo ran didn't say “watch me fuck you to death!” to his shizun in chapter 6 for ya'll to fail him like this
#it's moran!#all diff versions of him wanted to fuck his shizun (reasons vary)#i love binghe but my dude would've ended with a harem if shen yuan didn't transmigrate#moran always wanted to fuck his shizun lol even when he was the evil emperor
#this was v difficult but I decided to give it to Mo Ran#cuz he fucks his shizun in every universe <3
#HOW is MO RAN losing this one ????#he fucking ATTICWIFED his shizun in the timeline where he “HATES” him#HOW IS HE LOSING ????#and he BASICALLY did it again at the end of the novel - this time just consensually#Binghe WISHES he could live with his shizun on a little mountain without anyone for miles around all year round#except for certain dates to see friends and families and THAT'S IT#WITHOUT sqq binghe has a harem#WITHOUT cwn Mo Ran kills himself#COME ! ON !!
#The Husky and his White Cat Shizun#Mo Ran#VOTE FOR MY BOY#He wanted to fuck his Shizun in both lifetimes!
#When 0.5 1.0 and 2.0 MR all were obsessed with CWN there’s no competition
#how is mo 'i will fuck my shizun in every timeline' ran losing this?#mo 'i literally gave up on life when shizun died' ran#mo 'i spent my wedding night fucking the shizun i thought i hated while my new wife was left abandoned' ran
Canonicals Tournament FINAL
The final is between Luo Binghe from The Scum Villain's Self-Saving System (shizun: Shen Qingqiu) and Mo Ran from The Dumb Husky and His White Cat Shizun (shizun: Chu Wanning)
Propaganda under the cut! (Warning: Propaganda may include spoilers about the characters and their media)
Luo Binghe:
Luo Binghe's shizun Shen Qingqiu caused his sexual awakening and they lived together with Luo Binghe acting similar to a housewife.
Even after being betayed, stabbed, and pushed into the Endless Abyss, Luo Binghe still loved Shen Qingqiu and wanted answers instead of revenge. Instead he had to repeatedly suffer his shizun dying in his arms and assumed abandonment. Which makes him absolutely lose it, made even worse by his evil sword Xin Mo which worsens all of his negative emotions and destroys its hosts, along with additional trauma over the course of the story.
He reused the sword that his shizun sacrificed himself to free him from, cuddles the corpse every night for five years to preserve it, he creates dreams of their happy years together but never made a Shen Qingqiu that would speak to him, he kidnapped and destroyed cultivators' cores so he could feed xin mo and preserve sqq's corpse, he rebuilds their house in his demonic palace, he spent years fixing sqq's destroyed cultivation and trying to revive him, he forces Shen Qingqiu live in that new house, he rescues and repeatedly puts himself in harms way to protect sqq, he tries to destroy the world so Shen Qingqiu can only love him (due to being driven mad by Xin Mo and his believed abandonment by sqq). He tries to kill himself after Shen Qingqiu dies for him again. He would do absolutely ANYTHING for Shen Qingqiu! He's increadibly jealous of everyone Shen Qingqiu gives attention to, including stairsweeps he smiles at. Luo Binghe has sooo much wrong with him and it makes him so lovable. He's so incredibly traumatized, driven by love and desperation for a majority of the story. He loves Shen Qingqiu so much and can't bear to live without him.
After everything? He lets Shen Qingqiu go, wanting him to be happy even if it means sqq won't stay with him. But sqq wanted to stay together! He gets his man! There is in world porn written about them, they have weird kinky sex inspired by the porn, they get married! Luo Binghe cries regularly for sqq, so sqq can dote on him despite his thin face. Luo Binghe is shameless and adores sqq. Lbh got so nervous that he fell flat on his face when proposing! Lbh loves sqq so much and wants him to be happy more than anything else!
More on disciple era:
Luo Binghe's sexual awakening was his shizun tied up and shirtless. He fell in love after Shen Qingqiu got poisoned protecting him. He moved into his shizun's house and handled all of the cooking and cleaning, would regularly fake fall into Shen Qingqiu during training to get hugs. He got a boner from being forcibly cuddled to heal his injuries. And ran to jump into a lake after being spanked for struggling too much during the forced cuddling. Sqq still never noticed lbh's affections.
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It took him like 3(three) interactions with nice shizun (transmigrator who replaced his old one) to fall irrevocably in love. baby boy was ready he had mommy issues daddy issues and honestly by that time shizun issues too... luckily his new shizun can fill all those roles and more!
#lbh is THE shizunfucker
#binghe calling him shizun is a kink at some point its definitely him
#vote binghe!!#he wanted to fuck shizun so much that shizun died twice for him
#... i mean. luo binghe is a satire of the shizun fuckers character trope. hes an exageration of it so hes Very It
#luo binghe#again its basically a kink for him as well that puts it on another level
#cmon man#binghe is THE shizun fucker#activily has to be told to not call his husband shizun during sex
#binghe is THE shizunfucker supreme. no competition.
Mo Ran:
*gestures helplessly at the whole damn book*
#Mo 'I died and went into the past after the teacher I hated died in my arms and I dream of him every night' Ran???#of course its him
#vote for Mo ran I’m sorry but he is the emperor shizunfucker of all the shizunfuckers#he is the man the myth the legend#he’s the one you think of immediately when someone says shizunfucker
Extra Propaganda here. There are 3 versions of Mo Ran throughout Erha and every single one of them either wants to or did fuck their Shizun. Even in the darkest timeline when he thought he hated CWN more than anyone he fucked him. This boy is obsessed.
#mo ran 100%#he truly has the shizunfucker mentality
#mo ran#HAS TO WIN#he wants to fuck his Shizun so bad
#but it's gotta be mo ran#the all-time shizunfucker in this world that world and beyond
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Hi, nyerus.....If you don't mind me asking, who are your favorite MXTX characters (top 5 from each novel)? And why? I'm sorry if you've answered this question before.
Thank you so much for asking! I would love to! (Apologies for the delay, and also for how long this is lol....)
TGCF
1.) Xie Lian: I could write forever about why I love him, but XL is just a really great character who subverted my expectations. He's gentle and compassionate, but also funny and snarky on the inside. His character arc is the classic hero's journey but told out of order. So we meet him when he's already wise and world-weary, then get to see what he was like before, and how he finishes his journey later on. He's extremely inspiring, to show that our choices and our actions are what make us, and ultimately no one can take those from us.
2.) Hua Cheng: This is no surprise! I also just adore HC for being a very intense character! He's completely devoted to XL and that zealotry is very unique in a character. He's 100%, not 50, not 75. While he has a lot of relateable aspects, this part of him is utterly fantastical, on the level only myth and fable can achieve--which tracks. After all, he isnt a Ghost King for nothing. In the story, he is the embodiment of the purest devotion, no strings attached.
3.) He Xuan: I actually like him for the same reasons as HC! He too is a walking fable, only instead of devotion, he represents vengence. (They're actually like foils of each other, which is quite neat.) I really adore his arc, and how murky his whole character is. It tells a cautionary tale of how sometimes, our worst enemy--the one who makes us most miserable--is often ourselves. SWD wronged him greviously, but HX's obsession with vengence ultimately prevented him from getting the peace and recompense he wanted in the end. Absolutely stellar storytelling.
4.) Mei Nianqing: While I often question his motives and methods, he is still a really good character. Caught between wanting to be a mentor and protector to XL, but still loving (platonically or romantically, that's up to you) JW. He's the only father figure in XL's life that actually took him seriously, even if he did have to come around to it. But ultimately, he was proud of who XL became even before he ascended. He was just terrified of XL drawing the attention of the one man he shouldn't--and did. However his belief in superstition and fear of Hong Hong-er also makes sense, even if it's sad. MNQ is also just a quirky and fun dude lol.
5.) Mu Qing: I really like how complicated and murky MQ's is in terms of his inner turmoil. I'm somewhat similar to him in the way he thinks, and it's real work not to make things worse for myself by expecting the worse. His background makes him naturally suspicious of... basically everyone, all the time, and it's honestly understandable. Ultimately, he does understand that you can't make assumptions about people's intentions by projecting your own insecurities onto them--which I think is something everyone can relate to. I really like his subtle journey of self-realization and self-forgiveness, and he ends up far better for it.
MDZS
1.) Lan Wangji: I love the fact that LWJ was just so ready to Night Hunt himself to death upon the loss of his beloved. As you can tell, I really like complicated characters who have extreme traits, haha! That being said, I just also really like his stoicism and reliability.
2.) Wei Wuxian: Naturally, it's hard not to love WWX! He decided "yeah maybe the ends do justify the means" and went for it. To us, he is the hero. To the regular people of the world? Whose ancestors were dug up and disturbed to be used by the Yiling Laozu? His blackened reputation is not without cause! (Like... JGY literally has done more positive and helpful things for regular people than Wangxian, but those metas already exist lol.) Once again, his gray morality is what makes him so damn good, and can be debated at length!
3.) Jiang Cheng: JC gets a bad rep, but oh boy he doesn't make things easy for himself at all. However if I was in his position, I probably would be much worse off. He lost EVERYTHING, and still trudged on because there were people who depended on him. His hatred of the Wens also makes sense in the context that... that's often how humans react to and process extreme trauma. We find something to blame and *waves at literally every major conflict since the dawn of time.* (His rumored torture of innocent people due to that is reprehensible, of course, but given that MDZS is a book about how rumors can make or break someone's life... we should take that line with a grain of skepticism, much like all other hearsay.) He's not typically the type of character I like, but I found him really interesting to read.
4.) Jiang Yanli: I really love JYL, who decided to be the emotional backbone of her family from the time she was a child. It was an undue and extremely heavy burden to bear, but she did all of it without complaint. That's strength. I think many elder siblings can relate to her having to step up and be the third parent, when the actual adults fail at it.
5.) Wen Qing: I really like her arc in the novel, where she makes some of the hardest decisions anyone will ever have to make, over and over and over again. I don't typically love very "rough" characters, but she has ever right to be that way (and it makes sense for her character, and isn't just a tacked-on character trait like hair color or eye color in a CC), and honestly I want to marry her very seriously.
SVSSS
1.) Luo Binghe: Probably the most misunderstood main character of all of MXTX's works. LBH is neither truly a crybaby nor is he a ruthless maniac. He's right in the middle, in the valley of misanthropy. And yet, he knows just how to use his charisma to get his way. Cunning and devious, intelligent and ruthless. Meanwhile, he craves love and intimacy--something he could only ever dream of.
2.) Shen Qingqiu (Shen Yuan): Extremely refreshing to see an transmigrator know how to handle transmigration almost flawlessly. (Me reading/watching other works with this trope and wanting to tear my hair out at the protags = me sympathizing on a personal level with SQQ.) This also proves to be SQQ's fatal flaw!! His knowledge of the novel is both a boon and a obstacle to him, and prevents him from understanding the other characters as people until he lets go of his pre-conceived notions. And of course, his snarky as heck inner dialogue is amazing.
3.) Liu Qingge: I don't actually even know why I love LQG as much as I do. He's just neat.
4.) Tianlang-Jun: Honestly same goes for TLJ. He's just great though, and I have a blast reading about him. He wanted to see the good in humanity, and ultimately comes around after writing them off.
5.) Yue Qingyuan: He's a fascinating character. Harmless on the outside, but a quagmire on the inside. His love for Shen Jiu was quite... problematic, in that he saught forgiveness from SJ, without actually ever taking the time to understand him or to make amends. Patronizing and judgemental, yet willing to let SJ get away with literally anything because of his own unresolved turmoil, etc etc. Fascinating.
#if this sounds like I want to study some of these characters under a microscope then you'd be correct#i also have a lot more faves i would want to talk about but actually it's a lot of work to Think#i just really love characters who make me think or are very complicated#tgcf#mdzs#svsss#asks#nyerus.txt#thanad-zid
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I had a dumb wife swap idea, and while I’m never writing it, I’m kind of invested in the setup now, so here you go.
Okay, so we’ve got OLBH, only son of rich as fuck couple SXY and TLJ. Who got him a tutor, SJ, to raise him well. But SJ being SJ, he did not like LBH. When LBH grew up, he ended up accepting it and using his phenomenal playboy skills to hatesex his way into SJ’s bed. I’m thinking they got fucked up somewhere they shouldn’t have and got publicly found out in compromising positions. It’s a scandal, and SJ’s career is ruined. TLJ pushes for a marriage of convenience to weather the storm. SJ figures he’s got nothing to lose, in fact he could think of worse things than being LBH’s trophy wife, since they both agree monogamy with each other isn’t something they’re interested in. They’re fine with the other doing whatever they want to do as long as they keep it on the down-low.
Meanwhile, you’ve got SY and YQY. I’m thinking they went to the same school and ended up friends when SY was kind of nice to him after he moved away from SJ. YQY probably is a scholarship kid to SY’s fancy school. YQY is more than fine with SY’s sometimes abrasive side, since he’s nothing compared to SJ. It’s YQY who makes the first move, because SY looks kind of like SJ and while they’re not that alike, it’s good enough, not that YQY is aware that’s why he did it. SY goes along with it because YQY is nice and good looking and SY can be a go with the flow kind of person. YQY works himself up to a really prestigious job and asks SY to marry him. SY ends up staying at home and doing nothing, cause of course they’ve got maids and all that shit, and that suits him just fine. All of it just kind of happened. They’re both convinced they’re in love with each other, even though they’re not, because why wouldn’t they be? They get along fine, they’re not repulsed by each other, they’ve been together forever. They just separately think they’re in a rough pass, and it’ll, well, pass. Except it’s been like that for years.
How the fuck do they end up swaping partners via reality tv? SQH entered SY, and had his boyfriend sign up his dysfunctional boss. SQH was also a scholarship kid, and so he knows both SY and YQY from way back. He probably kind of tried to keep them apart when he realised it would never work out, but when does anyone listen to SQH?
Everyone is downright appalled at the idea of appearing in reality tv. Until SJ learns who he’s matched with, and then... He’s not sure what he’s going to do, but he has to know. YQY, when he finds out, is similarly astonished and terrified/exalted at the idea of welcoming SJ as his spouse. They both push for this to happen, with SJ assuring LBH that there is exactly zero chance of this making it to tv. Bribes will be paid, people will be threatened, whatever necessary. SJ just wants to make YQY’s life hell for a little while. YQY assures SY the same thing, just less visibly threatening. SY ends up agreeing because maybe it could help their pretty boring relationship? LBH is an ass, so he agrees because he doesn’t mind letting SJ ruining other people’s lives for once, and SY is hot. Who cares if he ruins someone else’s marriage? He wouldn’t mind hitting that.
So SY moves into LBH’s place. LBH is instantly 100% charm, cause he’s getting that in his bed, thanks. His resolve only grows as the days pass and he realises he actually likes SY. SY, meanwhile, kind of hate himself for how attracted he is to LBH. He hasn’t reacted like that to YQY in... he never reacted like that to YQY. But he won’t cheat on him. YQY deserves better from him. So it’s hell.
SJ arrives and pretty quickly has very similar goals to LBH. YQY grew up fine, and it’s obvious he’s not immune to SJ. This is a modern AU, so there isn’t a dramatic betrayal in their shared past. YQY just moved on to better things while SJ struggled in their original, shitty neighborhood/school. YQY probably had much nicer parents than SJ’s, maybe some lowkey abuse, but not like, rape or heavy physical abuse. SJ probably stayed over a couple times when they fought too badly. That’s why YQY feels guilty for having left SJ behind and why SJ kind of feel like YQY owes him. I think YQY ends up folding like a wet blanket and they fuck like, everywhere for three days straight.
So when this thing ends and SY returns home, he’s welcome to an horribly guilty YQY that tells him he cheated on him and they’re getting a divorce, because he realised what he was missing and he can’t continue like this. He tells SY that he’ll get all the alimony he wants and then some, that YQY will set him up for life, not to worry.
SY is flabbergasted, obviously. He was Not expecting this. But it is evident that YQY won’t change his mind, and anyway SY has too much pride to try to get back someone who cheated on him while SY himself respected his vows.
So he calls LBH and is like “How shitty can your marriage be for both you to hit on me and your husband to sleep with mine?” And LBH is like “Very, but also arranged and open, so I give no fuck.” And SY is like “Oh. Okay then why don’t I come by and you can make me forget this whole thing via sex?” LBH is very into this, so that’s what they do. LBH fucks SY until he’s mindless, and he looks at SY, whom he likes, remember? and tells himself it might be nice to be with someone who would be upset at the idea of losing him, because even if SY and YQY’s relationship was obviously not the stuff of fairy tales, anyone can see that SY cared. So when SY wakes up, LBH tells him that this was nice, but also probably a super bad idea, and SY should milk every cent he can out of YQY, set himself up somewhere nice, take a couple months of vacation, and call him when he’s ready so they can date.
SY blinks. He hasn’t dated in... Forever. YQY was his one and only. He realised it is indeed way too soon to do anything but cry and sue YQY, so he acquiesces and leaves.
Life returns to normal for LBH, except not really. SJ is gone all the time. After a while, LBH catches him and asks him when they’re getting a divorce. SJ blinks and is like, never, our marriage is for appearances, I don’t care. LBH tells him it was fine when they were both keeping to anonymous hookup and meaningless flings, but SJ has pretty much moved out. He’ll get caught, and LBH will 100% throw him under the bus as the cheating scumbag he is. So they’d better get a divorce before that happens. He gleefully reminds him of the prenup/contract/whatever he signed before the marriage that means that he gets nada, btw. Not that it’s going to be an issue, since YQY is doing well enough for himself.
SJ is kind of pissed, because he was fully planning to leach off LBH for as long as he could. He thought LBH wouldn’t care. But nah. So off to get divorce lawyers they go.
And that’s pretty much it. LBH and SY starts dating. SJ and YQY get married pretty much as soon as the divorce is finalised, as everyone looks on in horror at that shitshow. They can’t believe YQY did that to SY. SQH spends the rest of his life apologising, except not really because things did turn out better.
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some mo & he tian & she li feelings (this is a long post)
I HAVE SO MANY FEELINGS about... dynamics.... and how at the beginning Mo is thrown into a dynamic which is probably familiar to him and resembling what he and She Li have, and with threats that feel realistic to him, while He Tian is 100% surprised that his threats seem to be taken realistically?
He is surprised Mo would be so scared to actually shake?
And we know that threats of physical harm are part of the dynamic between Mo and She Li because of the chapter with the ear piercing flashback, where She Li literally is like talk back, get literally harmed (also the kind of creepy possessiveness of literally modifying someone’s body), out of nowhere, no previous warnings, he just feels like he owns Mo enough to be able to do whatever whenever.
On the other side, the “relationship” is one sided, as in we don’t see She Li helping Mo when the group of protagonists retaliate against him after being bullied. Mo is on his own, unless he is needed for some stuff, like LITERALLY throwing away his life and future because She Li asked him to (and we see how happy he is of being okay at school when he goes to visit his father in prison).
And then he literally trips into the protagonists’ group and the dynamic must seem so similar to him, with the way He Tian treats him, but it mostly seems like there is a discordant level of how serious each threat is between He Tian and Mo? Excepts that this time he is not left on his own??? and He Tian is actually there when he needs him??
Which is enough to move Mo?? TO TEARS?? And the thing is, in my opinion, He Tian did save Mo in that occurrence, as She Li has saved Mo before, but instead of telling him “well I guess you owe me so I own you”, their dynamic doesn’t change that much.
Not to mention that He Tian’s way of relating to Mo changes and gets gentler with time, as he must realize that his threats must appear more serious than what they are (at least at the beginning, with the sewing lips accident, the non con kissing accident, later finding out that she li is the one who pierced Mo’s ears).
AND THEN THIS??
And I might be wrong but this is just before He Tian goes to Mo to tell him that He Tian is his lackey now. Like, the level of actual realistic threatening that comes from a statement like “I like the when he is miserable”, not to mention that He Tian has been feeling quite the opposite in previous chapters (trying to make Mo happy, mostly). He must have like a long guilty flashback of the way He Tian himself has treated Mo at the beginning of their “friendship”, and from what happened with the kiss and the shaking, He Tian did not seem to enjoy Mo crying/in fear AT ALL.
Clearly not at the same level of She Li, who is here to be the perfect antagonist, thank you, She Li.
AND THEN THIS-
I CANNOT-
Mo never went to She Li when he was bullied by He Tien and friends, at the beginning, but now that the levels of affection/loyalty/realistic-threats have been exposed, he knows that he can go to He Tien and accept what He Tien told him, WITHOUT feeling like he owe him.
And just another thing, She Li was ready to get Mo out of school and right into his family’s business (a bar, I think), which screams of “isolate your victim” to me, while He Tian’s dynamic is mostly pulling Mo in alongside his circle of friends.
And while he does throw money at Mo, he also finds a job for him (in one occurrence, I don’t remember if it was more than one).
SO THAT IS IT--- I have feelings... ..sj;asdsj;as
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again, i am not writing this (my writing sucks and i have a ton of deadlines coming up!) but you keep making me think about it and laughing to myself so i feel the need to share the mental images
i am actually thinking of keeping both scenarios i mentioned earlier in the binghorse crack AU in my head.
so the first scene would definitely be SQQ waking up and realizing he's transmigrated into PIDW and then having Ming Fan bring him the protagonist and this monstrosity with a pretty face and LUO BINGHE shining in gold above his head shows up
and then while SQQ blue screens and tries very, very hard not to make a noise like a screaming teakettle, we get some flashbacks:
to the washerwoman, picking up an abandoned newborn Binghorse, and i'm laughing to myself imagining this absolutely wretched skincreature that is somehow worse than all other skincreatures combined because it's still all bloody and swollen and red, more like a furless rat than a foal, it has just been born. and the washerwoman's like, awww, he's beautiful!
(he's really not)
and then the washerwoman's death - just as in canon, but... it's a binghorse. he's holding her hand in his hooves. i don't know how he's doing it, but he is. is he sitting/kneeling by her bed? sounds anatomically unlikely, but sure, let's say he is. it's all very sad and tragic except there's binghorse so it comes back around to being too weird to be (only) sad
when we see him again he's doing the digging challenge at Cang Qiong, and like in canon, Ning Yingying comes to pick him up. except she just stares at him in silence for a bit.
and we wonder, is she going to say it? is she going to point it out?? are we, the audience, going to get some acknowledgement of the weirdness??
nope! she just brings him in as in canon. i've decided it's much funnier if most people see absolutely nothing different about the binghorse(s). he's just a disciple like any other. well, one that their shizun doesn't like. does he look like a weird horse creature? do his eyes shine creepily in the dark? are there roaming herds of creatures in the forest that look identical to that disciple? sure. nothing weird about that. they don't see what your point is. what do you mean, strange?
some people - OG!SQQ included, and also LQG - notice something is weird about that disciple, but they're not sure what. he just really creeps them out sometimes. no abuse because the first time SQQ tries, binghorse eats the whip or something else disturbing. SJ is a survivor, he knows when to retreat even if he doesn't understand why or what just happened
SY!SQQ is the only one who sees all the weirdness 100% for what it is and is panicking about it. i actually think it would be really funny if he was terrified of binghorse and constantly trying to accidentally-on-purpose make him leave the sect (desperately looking for Abyss rifts in the unlikeliest of places, telling himself he'll be punting binghorse into one at the first opportunity) while at the same time absolutely loving him and being unable to avoid doting on him as in canon.
he adores binghorse and is utterly repelled at the same time. he loves petting his disciple's hair. he hates every second of it. SQQ's second life is a torment unlike any other.
SQH also sees binghorse as binghorse but he had a lot more time to acclimate. also, if this is an AU he might not have certain death in his future, so he's all for binghorse, all hail binghorse, binghorse is love, binghorse is life
he is also absolutely never letting it slip in front of SQQ that he sees binghorse as anything but a perfectly normal stallion protagonist. Cucumber-bro needs to handle some confusion alone in his life. it's enrichment for his enclosure.
i'm not going to write it but i'm wondering how a Binghorse crack AU would work @meltedmush
my first idea was showing the one individual Binghorse that decides he wants to cultivate and how he joins Cang Qiong
but then it occurred to me how much funnier it would be from SQQ's perspective, if he thinks he's just transmigrated into canon PIDW and suddenly this nightmare creature that seems to have eaten the protagonist and only left his face hanging out shows up at the door of the Bamboo house
#i don't know if the OG angst CAN be kept#i get the feeling binghorse would somehow avoid it through the power of being.... binghorse#any time things would take a turn for the worse in canon something absurd happens instead#all hail binghorse binghorse is love binghorse is life#SQQ's binghe brain (and heart) can overcome anything#even binghorse#SVSSS#binghorse#skin creatures#there#now these ideas are out of my head#if anyone wants to go ahead and follow this or use it as inspiration for binghorse crack fic please do#since meltedmush has allowed fic writing about it xD
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All I Ask | Two
A/N: This is my take on Endgame Thor. Obviously, if you haven’t seen it, DO NOT read this. Really. You’ll spoil so much.
This is very very very late, but alas, it is finally here! It includes smut as requested by the lovely @coldmidnightlights ! I really tried!
Part 1
Weakly proofread | GIF found via Google
Pairing: Thor x Black!OC | Song Inspo: All I Ask by Adele
Words: 3.3K | Warnings: Smut, Angst, PTSD, and Mental Health
tags | @kreolemami @chaneajoyyy @kpizzletrash @letsshamelessqueen-m @marvelmaree @nina-sj
All I Ask
Folding up a red, sleeveless shirt, Naomi roamed her bed that was consumed by a mountain of various clothing garments, and she spotted a pair of denim shorts. Leaning over, she grabbed them, pulling it up to her figure, noticing how her thighs peaked past the sides.
She sighed.
She knew that she’d put on a couple pounds over the past few months, but it didn’t really bother her. She’d never been a universal puzzle piece among the other ladies in her career. She was naturally thick, and no amount of training and diet changed that. And as long as she was able to keep up, which she certainly could, she saw no issue.
Pairing the two items together, she placed them in the open suitcase that sat on the floor near her the window. Straightening back up, she pushed her hair behind her ear.
Looking around the room for favorite pair of sandals, her eyes fell on the photo frames located across her dresser.
She licked her lips, instinct carrying her feet over to the reminders. Naomi grazed her hands over the first photo. It was of her and Nat, one of their first missions together as partners. Nat’s hair was still long and curled, and Naomi’s was freshly cut into an asymmetrical bob.
Both ladies were in cocktail gowns, and neither wore a smile. At least, not with their mouths. Naomi detected the lighthearted relation in their gaze, the pride that accompanied their successful completion of a rather difficult assignment.
Naomi pushed her lips together, swallowing the uncomfortable lump growing in the back of her throat. She then transitioned over to the next photo.
Again, just one look, and she returned to that moment in time. It was the night that they’d secured the tesseract from Hydra. Of course, they’d also lose it again later that night, but when the photo was taken, they were still oblivious to Stark and Banner’s secret project that would lead to the creation of Ultron.
A shot glass of alcohol pressed against his lips, one arm around her waist, her hand pressed against his chest, and a playful scowl on his face. He was enthusiastic that evening as was she. They’d planned to go on a brief getaway to celebrate the demise of a two-year-long mission. He’d spent his time traveling the nine realms both fulfilling his royal duties and assisting in the repair of the damage inflicted from Loki’s attack.
Namely, she also spent her time searching for the tesseract as well as dealing with the fallout from SHIELD. Their time together was limited, so there was ardent excitement at being able to leave without worrying about what occurred during their absence.
Licking her lips, she tasted the familiar salt. Sighing with frustration, she angrily wiped at her tears.
She sighed, going back upstairs to finish packing. She went to grab a few bras when she heard the creaking of the floorboard.
"What’s up, Korg?"
"I-" Naomi spun around to see Thor standing in the doorway, his eyes immediately going to the dresser beside her, the pictures.
She paused, unconsciously crossing her arms. "Hey."
"Hi." He cleared his throat. "I don’t mean to bother you-"
"You could never bother me, Thor," she interrupted quietly, opening and closing her mouth as she moved closer to him. "Come. Sit."
Recognizing the lack of available space, she immediately moved to push her pile of clothes toward the top of the bed. "Sorry."
"It’s-" he stopped, allowing her to finish. He waited for her to stand back up when she instead stayed seated, moving up, crossing her legs over each other.
Naomi licked her lips. When he made no effort to move, she patted the spot beside her. "Please."
For a few seconds, he did nothing, and Naomi considered standing back up. However, just as she straightened her back to get up, he made two short strides and gradually lowered himself onto the mattress.
Sitting across from him, Naomi forced her hands to remain at her side. It was hard for her to converse with him without there being any sort of physical contact.
And then she remembered why there was an additional layer of tension surrounding them.
The fight….
She turned her head, allowing her eyes to focus on a small, black, dress which she immediately connected to the last event she wore it for.
Date night…
"I’m sorry." She broke the silence, still determined to not allow their eyes to meet. "I-I should have talked it over with you first."
"Would it have made any difference?" There was an almost sarcastic tone to his voice that was also doubled with irritation. "Would it have affected your decision?"
She closed her eyes. "You know it wouldn’t….."
Diverting her gaze, she stared down at her lap, raking her nails over her brown skin. "He’s my brother, Thor."
"I understand that, Naomi."
"Do you?" She questioned softly, finally willing herself to look at him. "Because if you were in my situation, and if it were Loki-"
"Don’t." He immediately silenced her, his voice carrying the heavy weight of finality.
Naomi straightened up and contemplated her next statement. If this were a conversation that took place before the Snap, her response would be something entirely different from what she planned to say. They were different.
"I’m sorry," she relented and licked her lips. "I just-" Looking away, her throat tightened. She cursed. "I watched him kill my parents,-"
"I kno-"
"No," she interrupted. Naomi was doing everything in her power to be understanding, to be patient, and she was, more than anyone else left in Thor’s life. But she had her own trauma she was trying to manage, trauma she’d been neglecting because she was so focused on him. "He tortured them in front of me, all the while, telling me that I was next, that when he was done with us, he’d go after Sam." Her voice broke. "And that’s exactly what he’s done."
Thor’s gaze softened. Naomi was never one for tears, so seeing her so fragile before him stressed the depth of her pain. "Naomi-"
"My mom, my dad, my best friend-" her jaw trembled. "And I feel like I’m losing you too." It was something she absolutely hated admitting aloud, but it was the truth. She knew he still loved her, but she also knew that you could love someone and not want them around for a variety of reasons. "So, don’t-don’t sit here and tell me that I’m wrong for wanting to do this."
"I don’t think that you’re wrong, Naomi." He sighed, shaking his head. "I-" Now it was his turn to figure out if what he wanted or would say would be the truest testament to how he felt. "It’s dangerous. He is dangerous."
"I can do this, Thor. You know I can."
"No, I don’t, Naomi."
She leaned over and pressed her fingers against her temple. "Thor-"
"You know what I do know, though?" He didn’t wait for a response. "Every person that I have ever cared about, always, without a doubt, ends up hurt or dead."
"Thor-"
"Despite all of my efforts to keep them safe" As his eyes glazed, Naomi reached her hand out to grab his, surprised when he didn’t jerk away from her touch. "Nothing works. They leave or they die."
"Thor, that’s not going to happen to-"
"It already did, Naomi!" His volume increased to a level where she was sure Korg, Miek, and anyone within 100 yards of their home could hear. However, she remained still, watching as his anger quickly dispersed into another emotion, one he worked meticulously to hide but was always visible to her. Pain.
"I lost you." He whispered in a devastated voice. "For five years, five long fucking years, I’ve spent every day regretting everything I did and didn’t do because they all led up to what happened-"
"It wasn’t your fault-"
He waved her off, turning his head as the frustration started to return. "You keep saying that-"
"Because it’s true!" She interjected, emotion imbued in her voice. "I-I would give anything, anything to take away your pain, and I know that I can’t, but-" she also shook her head, jaw shaking as she realized she could no longer filter. It was time to lay it all out. "I am doing everything I can to let you know that I am here for you, that I love you with all that I have, but-" she allowed her tears to fall. "I’m hurting too, baby. I-Nat was my best friend. I loved her, and I also love you, so much, and I wish you would just give me a chance, something, because I need you, but I need you to need me back." She broke, covering her hands with her face as she took a deep, shaky breath that left her stomach quivering from the intensity of her emotions. "And I’m trying to be strong, for you, for me, for everyone, but now I may lose Sam, and I can’t-I can’t lose him too, Thor. I-I can’t."
The Asgardian’s head dropped. He knew that Naomi was trying, and yes, he too continued to struggle, but in the midst of his dwelling on his loss, he continued to take advantage of what the universe had granted him. Naomi was alive, she was real, and she wasn’t asking much from him, just a chance. Just for him to show her that he still cared for her, that he still wanted them to be together, that he still loved her.
Naomi felt both shame and frustration. The last thing she wanted to do was have a breakdown, let alone in front of him. She was supposed to be there for him, be strong for him, and yet….
"I’m sorry." Berating herself for being so vulnerable, she twisted her body to get up from out the bed and relocate her mini-breakdown into the privacy of her bedroom. However, just as she went to rise up, he stopped her.
Naomi looked down with uncertainty, her eyes never leaving his as he gradually pulled her toward him. Before she could even reassure herself that he was offering what she thought he was, she pushed herself into his side, directing her tears into his shoulder.
Eyes closed as she silently cried into him, he allowed his arm to move around her body, his hand on her hip. "I’m sorry, Naomi."
As he spoke into the top of her head, Naomi struggled with her emotions that were already all over the place. This was what she’d been craving for so long, to be close to him, to be near him, to be with him. She’d tried her best to give him the space that he needed, to allow him to initiate when he was ready. Of course, things rarely happened as they were supposed to.
Calming herself down for a few seconds, she looked up at him, her eyes and face damp with her tears. Mouth slightly parted, she watched as he met her gaze, his eyes briefly dropping to her lips. She was unsure as to how much, if at all, she would regret what she did next, but at that moment, she couldn’t care less.
She needed him.
Pushing up, she pressed her lips against his, her hand going to palm his face. She felt his initial resistance and responded with further molding of her body against his, and when his hand near her hip moved to graze her ass and the underside of her thigh, she moaned.
Placing her other hand on his face to deepen their kiss—God, she’d missed the feel of his lips on her—she sat up and swung her leg over his lap so that she was straddling him. His stomach created a slight barrier between them, but nothing that could hinder the intensity of their kiss that was becomingly increasingly heated by the second.
He finally broke it, eyes closing. "Naomi…"
"Please," she whispered, pressing her forehead against his. "Please, baby." She inched away from him to reach for the bottom corner of her camisole, lifting it over her head and tossing it on the floor. "I need you. I-I need this."
Hands moving down his shoulders, she panted slightly while trying to push down his cardigan. "I’m not going anywhere." A beat. "Pl-"
Naomi was suddenly on her back, Thor hovering over her, his mouth latched to her neck, her mouth ajar, hands exploring his body. From there, desires were blurred. He wanted to savor this, each second of exploration reminding him how much he’d missed this, missed her while Naomi was yearning for his touch, for the familiar stretch that left her clawing his back until she drew blood.
They both wanted the same thing but had different ideas on how to attain it.
"Please," she panted, pushing up against him to remove her bra when he reached behind her, snapping it off with one swipe. She moaned, pulling his lips back on her as he disposed of his cardigan only for him to trail his lips down her face, neck, and latching onto her nipples.
Moaning and writhing against the pillow, her fingers pushing at the waistband of his sweats. "Stop teasing me."
"I’ve waited too long. Let me savor this moment.”
The anticipation was grueling but his sentiments were reciprocated except the god above her possessed a greater amount of patience and restraint. Naomi was restless, eager, ravenous for his touch, to feel him in a way she’d been starved of for far too long.
“Thor.” A breathy whisper as her fingers crawled down to feel him, her nails grazing his thick shoulders. “Say it.” Eye closing as she pressed into his skin like her loved pushed through his walls. “I-I need you to hear you say it.”
Thor was teetering into complete surrender to his desire as well so he dumbly questioned, failing to see past mere words. “What?”
Naomi lifted her eyes open to ensure she grabbed at his beard, forcing his vivid blue eyes to stare into her warm brown orbs. She licked her lips, nerves trying to get the best of her. “Tell me you love me.”
It wasn’t even the request that startled him. It was the emotion. The vulnerability. The sentimentality. The fear. Naomi rarely bared her emotions, so this blatant display of transparency created unfamiliarity within the god.
A few additional seconds of longing was enough to increase her anxiety, prompting her to sit up, hands still gripping his shoulders. Thor offered no objection as she repositioned them so that she was straddling him, her eyes clenching shut at the feel of his hardened member grazing her seeping core.
Typically, foreplay preceded penetration, but this wasn’t a typical sexual escapade. This was lovemaking in the form of the purest and most innocent level, a higher form of intimacy where intertwined bodies conversed and conveyed feelings and emotion that word failed to accurately embody.
Starvation clouded her sentences as Naomi welcomed the almost vaguely familiar stretch and fill as she guided his thick length inside of her weeping opening. Her essence saturated both of them.
Low profanities slipped past her pressed lips. She’d almost forgotten what this felt like, what he felt like. It still amazed her how she was able to take all of him as she did.
Thor kept his hands on her hips, helping to guide her, his eyes never leaving her face, searching for any indication that she wanted to stop even though he knew that stopping was the last thing on her mind.
Naomi placed her hands on top of his and squeezed. As she finally acclimated to his girth, forbidden words were replaced with pleads. She wanted, needed to hear him say it. For her own sanity.
“I love you, Naomi.” His eyes never left her face, watching the scrunch of her brows, nose, and the tremble of her lips as the declaration finally escaped the depths of his fear. “I love you.”
She sniffled, moving her hands to his belly, stabling herself as she welcomed a slow pace. Back and forth. Gradually, finding her comfort and basking in the comfort of confirmation. She hadn’t realized that despite her best attempts at self-pep talks, she needed him to verbalize it.
She needed to hear it.
“I love you, Thor.” Her voice cracked in conjunction with the bed beneath them creaking from the steadily increasing pace as she rode him. “P-p-please don’t leave me.”
Clarity replaced clouded judgment as Thor recognized the latent content of her heartfelt request. His ability to recognize underlying meaning improved with each statement that left her full lips. Their fears were one and the same, just masked with different packaging.
He feared to lose her, again, in a physical sense. She feared to lose him in an emotional sense. The same outcome. Different paths. One result.
Heartache.
They both were fighting for and against something not realizing that their actions were playing into what they feared the most.
Loss
Grabbing her arm and pulling her down against him, Naomi moaned into his soft kiss as he lifted his hips, amplifying the depth and speed of the thrusts.
“I won’t leave you,” he vowed as she brought her hands to either side of his face, her forehead pressed against his, eyes clenched shut. “I promise.”
She swallowed back a scream. The love, verbal and physical, it was all so overwhelming. She finally receiving the comfort and intimacy she’d desired for so long. And much like his opening decree, Thor enjoyed every minute of it, every stroke, every touch, taste, and feel of her soft body against his. He savored their time and her like it was his last day in Valhalla.
Likewise, Naomi cherished him, his love, him, up until her body couldn’t physically withstand anymore.
When all was said, done, and depleted, she curled up beside him, arm across his core, her hand softly caressing circles on his stomach.
He kept her close to him. Proximity was everything to the king these days. Silence was okay for a short amount of time, but Naomi recognized that there was still a conversation to be had.
“You know I have to go….”
He sighed, kissing the top of her head. “I do.”
She peered up and smiled sadly. “I’m coming back, Thor. With Sam. I’ll be okay.” She added. “Bucky is going with me.”
“The one-armed man?” Naomi muffled a giggle. She missed this. His humorous naivety. “The one who shot you?” His hand instinctively moved down to the scar left from a mission that left her facing off against the Winter Soldier.”
“He’s better now, Thor. And he won’t let anything happen to me.”
“Neither would I.”
“I know, baby, but this isn’t exactly a Stormbreaker worthy mission. It’s a rescue mission, and it’s-“
“Personal,” he finished for her, lightly rubbing her back. A few seconds of silence. “If you’re not back in three days-“
“You’ll burn down everything to come find me,” she smiled shyly, lifting her hand to his face and gently pressing her lips against his. “I will come back, Thor.”
He kissed her palm. “You better.”
Eyes watering at the love she felt and saw in his eyes, she warmly exclaimed, “I love you.”
“I love you too.”
He pressed his lips against hers, soft and sweet, transitioning into hot and steamy. Naomi went to shift so that she could move her legs over him when the door swung open.
“Hey, Ms. Naomi, do you know what station Lifetime i—oh my god!"
“Korg!"
#thor#thor x reader#thor x oc#thor odinson#avengers#thor fanficition#marvel#marvel fanfiction#thor x black!reader#thor x black!oc#odin#norse mythology#mcu#thor fanfic#work: all i ask
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Do you have any mbti ideas for AD characters?
Hey! Well, I have been thinking about it and I have some ideas lol. They’re a bit hard to figure out because, after all, it’s arrested development, meaning they haven’t really grown up, which makes seeing their cognitive functions harder to figure out. Someone did typings on funkymbti, but I don’t agree with all of them 100%, but I’m no expert. But, again, I wouldn’t mind taking a swing at it. My personal rundown, with explanations under the cut, is:
Gob - ESTP (this is the one I am the MOST confident on)
Michael - ESTJ
Lindsay - ENFP
Buster - ISFJ
George Michael - ISFJ
Maeby - ISTP
Lucille - ESTJ
Tobias - ENFP
George - ENTJ
Tony (mostly speculative) - INFJ
Gob - definitely an ESTP. Like, holy shit, he’s a stereotypical ESTP. A stereotypical ESTP is the partier, the jock, the popular kid. He’s totally in a Se-Fe (Extroverted Sensing-Extroverted Feeling) loop most of the time; basically his manic stages because, yes, I have to fit in the bipolar Gob theory whenever possible. Anyways, he seeks adventure and sex and drugs and alcohol and is somehow magically ALIVE, so he either has no limits or knows his limits, making me believe his Se is high. Fe explains his ability to charm people, as Mitch described him as someone who doesn’t even realize he’s being charming. To quote mbti notes, “Tertiary Fe often makes a person seem sociable or charming, which can easily be mistaken as Fe dominant. However, tertiary Fe often has a calculating underside, more likely to treat people instrumentally as tools/objects for self-centered gain (due to higher Ti). Tertiary Fe is more likely to produce relationship failure and social discord (than dominant Fe).” He’s able to observe the environment around him and come to conclusions from time to time, showing his SeNi, like putting together that his mom had been driving Michael in “My Mother the Car”. I said he loops in Se-Fe because his logic (Ti) is very much absent like...constantly. His logic is very abstract and not based in facts like Michael (a total Te user) is. Inferior Ni also explains his need to stick to being a magician despite his total failure at it; lots of tunnel vision can happen with Ni. So, yes, I’d say ESTP.
Michael - This person said ISTJ, but I lean more towards ESTJ, if only for the fact that he’s not nearly as introverted/independent as he likes to believe (he needs the family as much as they need him) and the fact that it means he’d have inferior Fi (Introverted Feeling), explaining his “robotic” nature. Fi also explains why he has his own set of morals that, quite often, go against his family’s. It also definitely explains why he thinks he’s more moralistic than his family but really isn’t; the lower something is in your stack, the weaker it is, but you still might think you’re good at it. The Te-dom nature makes him very driven by facts and logic, and having Te-Ne makes him come up with dry, snarky comebacks. SJs have a rep for normally being pretty traditional due to Si, which isn’t always true, but it works in Michael’s case. I think a lot of his s4 behaviors are signs of inferior Fi/being in a Fi grip versus inferior Ne/being in a Ne grip. To quote mbti notes’ spotting guide on inferior Fi, “Their failures usually involve: being too aggressive and then getting severe pushback, taking on too much then suffering exhaustion, or being so focused on bottom line efficiency/results that they neglect other important things.” ESTJ.
Lindsay - She’s definitely an Fi user; she has her own morals and ethics that aren’t decided by her family, so she’s an FP or TJ. They said ESFP, but I might honestly lean more towards an ENFP. When she’s stressed out, she goes back to Tobias, and in s5a, they have her leave to find her “real” family, which indicates an inferior Si to me. But when she’s less stressed, she’s able to change her life around quite easily. She changes her focus a lot, including what size of a cause she’s on, and she’s very adaptable, normally a high Ne trait. And Lindsay having the same functions as Michael but in a different order really helps explain why they tend to get along well, I think. ENFP.
Buster - Buster is a hard one, god. He’s been robbed of so much of his adulthood that it’s hard to figure out his cognitive functions. Stereotypically, I think he fits as an ISFJ (Si-Fe-Ti-Ne). Si-doms are stereotyped as being very into routines, and Buster had trouble leaving his routines behind when Lucille was in jail. He craves approval of others, particularly his mom and his older siblings, which could indicate Fe, and higher Fe tends to make people warm and friendly, which is definitely a Buster trait. Through Ti he’s normally able to come up with some logical explanations, like figuring out Uncle Oscar is his dad, but he’s not too concerned with logic. His Ne is basically non-existent, since his growth has been so stunted. But, yeah, he likes things to stay the same and he’s a sweetheart, so I’d say ISFJ.
George Michael - Definitely an ISxJ, since when he’s stressed, he easily falls into the grip of Ne - spiraling anxiety. To, again, quote mbti notes, this time on inferior Ne, “Their failures usually involve: being too anxious or worried (catastrophizing), being overwhelmed by too much novelty or rapid change, or micromanaging situations (sometimes due to unwillingness to delegate).” I think I’d go with ISFJ because I think he has to have Fe in his stack; he’s very worried about keeping peace and harmony, and while Michael keeps the family together, GM is the one who actually wants the family to be together. Fe is often about togetherness. ISFJ.
Maeby - I definitely agree with the typing done on her as an ISTP. Her Ti-dom nature makes her very prone to being a bit rude and cynical, as well as independent and she can figure things out on her own. Inferior Fe pops up in her being unintentionally (or sometimes truly just intentionally) cool or rude to people around her. Hell, she purposefully tried to make GM feel bad for no reason. She’s definitely someone who lives in the moment (Se) and she’s able to get things to fall into place...most of the time. Definitely Se in her nature, so I could also see ESTP as well, but her Fe seems to be her biggest blind spot and she lashes out when she’s upset. And to quote mbti notes, “However, tertiary Ni often leads to very superficial judgment, more likely to carelessly dismiss deeper meaning or potential for growth (due to higher Se). Tertiary Ni is more likely to have a dejected or cynical attitude about what is possible in life (than dominant Ni).” Let’s not forget how she ended s4 by refusing to say she made a huge mistake. ISTP.
Lucille - another tough one. I’m sure most people would put her as an ENTJ since that’s normally considered “the mastermind”, but I don’t know. I’ve always said the child most like her is Michael, so I could definitely see ESTJ. Te-Ne would explain how she’s able to think so quickly on her feet, both in regards to lying to people and with her insults. She’s definitely set in her ways, a definite Si related trait. Her active blind spot is definitely her morals, much like Michael, but she’s a bit better at hiding it since she is older. ESTJ.
Tobias - I think the person who typed on funkymbti did a good job with ENFP. From the mbtinotes on dom Ne/inferior Si “Their failures usually involve: not being able to prioritize the best ideas to pursue/develop, carelessness with details that leads to failure, or feeling restricted such that they cannot access inspiration/hope for long periods.” Ne explains his willingness to give up the career that he had for decades as well as how he’s willing to change what kind of performing he does. I’d say FiTe works because he’s not necessarily into harmonizing and he’s definitely devoted to what he thinks is right to him, not necessarily what people tell him to do, since he has no problem pursuing an acting career despite everyone telling him it’s a dumb idea. ENFP.
George - Eh, I do my best not to think about him lol. I actually 100% agree with this person’s reading on him and would definitely say he’s an ENTJ. His family are chess pieces to him, he’s always scheming, very much a Te-Ni trait. His inferior Fi makes him pity himself when he’s stuck in a bad situation. Yeah, I’ll stick with ENTJ.
Tony - I’m not sure there’s really enough to work with for him at this point. I’m tempted to say INFJ, since that makes him Gob’s “mirror” type, meaning his has the functions in the opposite order of Gob (ESTP would be Se-Ti-Fe-Ni and INFJ is Ni-Fe-Ti-Se), and that’s supposed to make people a “perfect” match. But, since they’re same, maybe he’s an ESTP? Lol. Well, he definitely has a singular vision like a Ni-dom would, which is making it as a magician (contrasted to Gob’s inferior Ni that he always falls back on that one vision, Tony’s whole life is definitely magic). Again, from the mbti notes page, this time on inferior Se, “In low moments of weakness, they become very rash or extreme in behavior.” This could explain what we hope is just him faking his death (where are you s5b???). He claims he’s good at faking being gay and definitely has some manipulative, suave tendencies that could be an upper Fe trait. So, yeah, why not? INFJ.
I’ll also say the Steve Holt gives me ESFJ vibes (very sweet and warm, popular, goes with the flow, values family) and Ann Veal seems like an IxFP (guided by her own morals and ethics). I could definitely be wrong, though.
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Rin Reads & Rants about: Catwoman: Soulstealer - Chapter 2
We finally get to the butchering of other comic book characters! Yay! I’m not ready, but here we go!
So, if you remember last chapter, it ended with the cops banging on their door. So, this one starts with the two sisters panicking about what to do. It is finally decided that Selina should hide in the closest because she’s covered with bruises and that would only make the cops raise their eyebrows and stuff. So, Selina does.
Turns out that there is also a social worker with the cops that Selina didn’t see when she had hobbled over to the door. The social worker manages to force Maggie to let her into the apartment, just as Selina is attempting to free herself from the closest. She finally stumbles into the main area.
“They all looked at her, the cop’s eyes narrowing as they beheld the bruises, the woman’s face tightening in disapproval”
Disapproval of her awkward entrance or of the bruises?
It is revealed that their mom is down at the precident and is in bad shape. In bad shape from what? Well, I’m unsure. Did she have an overdoes or is she just hella drunk? Idk the lady doesn’t tell us.
“ ‘You’re not in good shape, either,’ the woman added.
‘I’m fine. Just fell down the stairs yesterday.’ (Selina said).”
Oh, Selina, if you knew anything you would know in a situation like this, a social worker would take your lame lie as a grain of salt because abused kids lie all the time about what’s really happening. My cousins were abused by their father for YEARS and we didn’t even know until years later because they would cover it up in fear of what he would do to them. But, alas, okay. You keep using the lame “I fell down the stairs” Excuse for your beat up state.
So then Selina debates about going to get the one grand of money she had stashed under the kitchen sink to pay the cops off…but I thought they didn’t have five hundred dollars to pay for the medical bills for Maggie? I mean, what is logic though in this book? Idk her.
It’s too late though because the cop finds the money and pockets it for himself.
Also, one of the cops calls the two of them “Little girls” Which, uh Selina is three weeks away from being eighteen. Maggie is fourteen, but looks frailer in her condition so that one is correct but Selina? She isn’t…little. But, keep going I guess.
The social worker then states that Selina has a record with two strikes. Of what you might ask? Well, I sure as hell don’t know because no one says anything, and Selina defends herself by saying that is was from three years ago. Was it prostitution like the original catwoman did? Who even fucking knows. Which, fun Rin Nerd fact: The reason Maggie hates her in the comics is because of the prostitution, which in the comics she’s a nun and goes literally insane as I stated earlier. But, alas, this is nothing like the comics so, moving on!
The social worker attempts to get Maggie to go with them and Maggie is like “No!” And she attempts to flee out of the apartment. Which…she’s got cystic fibrosis, and from all indication it’s bad. This was not the smartest move. There would be no way she would make it out the door and anywhere without collapsing or something.
She doesn’t make it far before the one cop grabs Maggie and we get a sentence I burst out laughing out at:
“Selina exploded.”
That’s it. Just. Selina exploded. Like, @ sj/m, if you’re going to be dramatic, at least be realistically dramatic. Don’t use the word exploded and think it will sound good and 100% not stupid. “Selina saw red” or something, but not EXPLODED. Good grief on a stick.
“The dark-haired cop went down first. Uppercut to get his head up, then elbow to the nose put him on the ground. He was unconscious before he hit the carpet.”
She is able to do all of this while still super injured from her cage fight. Which, yes adrenaline does something to a person, but…it seems pretty out there she’s able to take down a guy a) injured and b) so quickly with just an uppercut and an elbow to the head. Also, is she as tall as this guy? How was she able to jump up and knock him when she could barely stumble to the door to see who was outside like 5 minutes ago? The cop literally called her a little girl so that means she’s much smaller than him.
So then Selina fights the other cop and he nearly calls her a bitch but Selina stops him by punching him in the face.
“Her body sang in agony, wounds ripping open, bruises bleating.”
Lol @ the bleating bruises. Also, that’s about as much info we get on her injured state while fighting these douches. Adrenalin is a cool thing I guess. Which, you can argue it can, but it never states in the book that like. “Adrenaline shot through her.” Just that the sound of her sister crying out in pain made her explode. So, it made her explode and turn her into a literal superhuman for 2.5 seconds with the ability to knock out one guy who was described as “Thickly built.” So, cool beans.
So then Selina shoves the woman:
“Selina shoved the woman. Hard.
Hard enough that the social worker went careening into the table, chairs scattering.”
Again, this could have been one sentence. But, whatever. Dramatic and all that.
In the end the mustache cop ends up tasering her and she blacks out.
Selina wakes up in a precinct room. Then, a woman comes in and Selina describes her as the following:
“A tall, slim woman with night-black hair and skin like golden honey entered the room.”
Which, reading slightly ahead we find out she is Talia al Ghul. I mean, we only are told her first name, but I know who Talia is—she’s an al Ghul. She’s an important character in the Batman series—she’s the mother of Batman’s kid Damian which, like is a whole thing in itself, but I’ll stop there. Her father is Ra al Ghul who is “The Demon’s head” and her mother was part Chinese and Arab. But yes, SJ/M you describe her only with “golden honey skin and nidnight-black hair.” This book is in fucking modern times, you’ve already described THREE girls solely by their ethnicity. But ya can’t describe Talia a little bit better? Really? Reaaalllyyy? Whatever.
Talia puts down a large file and starts going through it. It’s Selina’s file. She starts flipping through it and the papers “hiss” for some reason. I’m going to start doing a count on how many unnecessary animalistic words are used in this book.
Oh my fucking goooood Talia’s accent is described as a “some rolling purr.” And I just…I can’t. WE GET IS SARAH YOU ARE WRITING ABOUT FUCKING CATWOMAN.
Selina doesn’t answer any of the questions Talia keeps asking, and instead, keeps asking her own question of “Where. Is. Maggie.” Which. Lol. Where dat question mark be?
Selina threatens Talia and Talia questions how she will follow with through the threats being handcuffed and all, and Selia nonchalantly has the cuffs fall off. Turns out she nabbed a paperclip and used it to free herself. How Talia wouldn’t hear this or see Selina doing it boggles my mind but ok.
Talia just beams and tells her she’s clever and then tells her to put them back on. It was a very weird interaction. Like why wasn’t Selina more surprised that Talia didn’t care that she’d freed herself? Why are you not confused girl???
Talia then tells her that she has an offer for her:
“I’ve got chart after chart of your grades. Your exam scores. Do your little kitty-cat friends know you’re top of your class and that you aced all statewide exams?”
Of fucking course Selina is book smart. She couldn’t just be good at fighting and gymnastics, she also has to be super-duper smart! Also, I thought Selina kept skipping out of school? How is she this smart without going to school and learning? Unless she’s not actually smart and is, in fact, just good at guessing answers.
Anyway, Talia offers her a place in her super-duper School for Gifted Youngsters....Ah, crap wrong comic book series! Sorry!!! with the offer that Selina’s crime records will vanish. Selina decides that if she would go, then her sister would have to be put into a good home and be looked after and that their mother will never be able to see Maggie again. Turns out Talia wants her so bad, she agrees to this, but says that she will have to leave tonight and not say goodbye to Maggie. Selina takes like 5 seconds of contemplating never seeing saying goodbye to her sister, then agrees which kinda destroys the close relationship Sarah was trying to make between the two sisters. I could have gone for a paragraph of confliction, but whatever.
So then we fast forward to Selina going onto the plane. We are told her body aches for having to leave, but there isn’t really much of Selina regretting leaving her sister without saying goodbye.
The chapter ends with Selina asking Talia if she’s Wayne because “Waynes did plenty of charity work”. In which Talia answers with:
“No. My family name is al Ghul.”
DUN DUN DUUUUUNNN. Also, Catwoman like never ever was a part of the al Ghul league of Assassins sooooooo…… yeah. The next page says we skip 2 years so I guess we don’t get to watch Salina train or anything.
I totally forgot to put dash and ellipse count in chapter 1 so this is chapter 1 and 2 put together. Also a count on the use of animalistic words for no good reason.
Interruptions count: 70
Animalistic words used for no reason: 6
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I love that Virgo and Pisces are literally opposite signs in the zodiac (Near is a Virgo and Light is a Pisces)
Yes! I absolutely love this too. Astrology and DN both are among my special interests and it’s really nice that the characters mostly fit their zodiac signs, or at least the themes of their signs. I have no idea how much of this happened by accident, or how much Ohba (or people from SJ) know about astrology, but I’m going to 100% ignore this and the validity of astrology (because I don’t actually “believe” in it) for a moment. Please do the same if you want to read on.
Traditionally, the opposite signs are meant to be the “mirror” of each other. Pisces are associated with intuition, detachment, inspiration, unity, (self-)deception & delusion, seclusion, complexity, the subconscious, etc. While Virgos are associated with reality, the senses, lucidity, plainness, facts, the analytical, details, duty & responsibility, etc. (They do come together as the “healers” among the signs and via themes like austerity, spirituality and idealism, but that’s not really relevant here)
And while Near doesn’t exactly manage to rid Light of his… delusions, it’s still him who forces him to confess, to stop his lies and tell everyone (well, everyone who was at the warehouse) what he really thinks and feels. It’s quite beautiful. (And quite different from the Pisces & Scorpio interactions between Light and L, despite L’s and Near’s almost identical roles in the story.)
(more irrelevant ramblings about Pisces and Virgos under the cut - and with pictures too!:)
(Also, I’m Pisces myself, so don’t feel attacked if I say something bad about us. I know us. We are all locked in our ivory tower &very peculiar when it comes to our world views, but that’s not always a bad thing!)
(”Truly safe and ideal world” - that’s something that mainly exists in the head of Pisces, tbh)
(Pisces are also associated with selfishness, which, imo, is a weird thing to call Light with all his “God of the New World” talk, but I really do think that sees his “mission” as a form of self-sacrifice too)
(Harm “his world” is probably something he should have said - and what an extremely typical point of view this is for a Pisces, lol)
(Yeah, that’s pure manipulation, but that doesn’t mean that he doesn’t believe this himself) (Pisces are full of contradictions - did you know that the Pisces symbol ->♓
(I can be your angle….or yuor devil) (No, for me this symbolises his gradually divorce from reality too, which is very relatable, tbh)
(Classic Virgo here, not just what he says, or how he physically isolated himself from people while still being a team player - but also that he’s basically married to the ground)
(Bear with me, but Ryuk absolutely symbolises his detachment from reality here too, if you want to. *cough* (I admit that I mainly just like that some weird, supernatural being with wings, who can float and physically disappear/reappear, is the reason for everything that happens to him) Light tries so hard to change the world, the reality, with something that absolutely doesn’t belong in this world - with something spiritual. (And well, Pisces usually try really hard to be anywhere else but in the real world too) (And it’s also not unusual for us to use everything and - maybe - anyone which/who might not be from this world to “cope”)
(That’s just a joke, I know, but I still find this hilarious - the “flying” Pisces and the “I-want-to-become-one-with-the-earth-and-ground” Virgo - it’s just… perfect)
(Fun fact: Virgo is a Mercury sign and people strongly influenced by Mercury often stay child-like, or youthful longer than most people)
(Every Pisces needs a Virgo in their life to tell them how it is, tbh)
(Damn)
(Brutal, yeah, but a typical Virgo/Pisces interaction - just a bit extreme, usually it’s just something like my (Virgo) grandma telling me that I absolutely can’t walk home alone, with nothing more than a thin jacket, in the middle of winter and that, no, “just ignoring the cold” won’t help) (or that I need to face my problems & a very good therapist to help me deal with all of them) (bless you, grandma)
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(If Pisces & Virgos do believe in something though - then very fiercely indeed)
(Yeah, crush him, Near)
#answered ask#anon#light yagami#near#astrology#well this escalated quickly#but that's what you have to expect when you mention TWO of my special interests in one ask
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