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zabelismyfavbagel · 3 days ago
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Hello tried posting this to a Pedro Pascal community but honestly I don’t know how it works so reposting this again I guess.
I need to rant to ppl who like the The Last of Us game AND SHOW please!! Cuz the negative gamers who keep commenting HATE for the show is making me LOSE MY MIND. I need someone on my side and are nice please 😭
(Fyi this is stuff about episode 3 and spoilers of the game obviously)
1. Them not liking Tommy cuz he seems too "tame" and complaining that he's not on his way to Seattle.
First of all, BE PATIENT why are we jumping ahead. We don't know if he's going or not going to Seattle.... yet. I also think they show Tommy to be more "passive" to show how he acts since living in Jackson to be more of a shock when he becomes aggressive. Compared to where in the game you don't see much and only know he was vicious in his past. Like when Dina was shock/ frightened to see what Tommy did to the 2 WLF soldiers CUZ SHES ONLY KNOWN JACKSON TOMMY (the part where they're like strapped to chairs and one of them written the code for the gate in blood). I mean it's not as shocking for us since we knew that was a tactic Joel had also used before. So what i'm saying is the show could just be showing how everyone in Jackson views Tommy until he switches.
2. Ellie and Dina not being in a relationship right away and wanting THE COUCH SCENE.
This one is not as annoying cuz i know in the end they will be together. But why are there so many ppl foaming out the mouth for the couch scene? Do they need it that bad and they just can't wait any longer? It's fine if you're just excited for it but idk the comments just seem so negative cuz it hasn't happened yet. Maybe i'm just looking at it too deeply so that could be my fault. The show making their relationship a slow burn is not that big of a deal to me. I mean Joel dying, Ellie was in the hospital, and the rebuilding of Jackson seems like a lot of stuff already happening so being in a relationship immediately could be a lot. Also Dina and Jessie being back together is fine i guess. In the game Dina did say their relationship was like just on autopilot so maybe in the show after losing Joel (since she "loved him too”) could be her way of just wanting some kind of normality.
That's it for now unless some ppl do find this and want to chat. I do have positive and negatives for both show and game like a compare and contrast I guess too. But i'm already tired of typing rn.
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no34t1ng · 2 days ago
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Hello!! Can you help me? I'm 50kg rn but my gw is 48/47. My parents watch how I e4t and keep asking me to e4t more, they are 0b3se so they expect me to e4t too much and we1ght like them, all the fo0d they bring to house is too 0ily and I can't actually l0se we1ght like this, also even drinking water makes me too bl0ated (so many ppl say drink 2L/3L to l0se w3ight) but the highest I can drink without getting blo4ted is 0.5L lmao, today I'm f4sting and my mother asked me what I 4te today.. I told her the truth because she already knows and now I br0ke my f4st, everytime I try to do a d!et I get forc3d to e4t more because it's not enough (I don't restr1ct that much tbh because they watch what I e4t closely, but I still try to not e4t much) do you have any tips? Ty for reading 🤍🎀.
hiii lovely! thank you for asked!! ⭐🐋
hearing ur situation, staying sk1nny sounds super hard tbh, but we must stronger than that right😭💞
but since ur goal is ar0und 2–3 ⓀⒼ, i’d recommend just 3at1ng in c4l0r1e d3fic1t, not f4st1ng, bc ur parents probs wont let u f4st anyway
or if u really wanna f4st, maybe try 23:1 or 16:8 f4st1ng, but full-day f4sting might not work rn as we can see
try to find ways to m0ve more and burn extra c4lor13s too!
and about drinking w4t3r, i think u should just split ur 5OOmI throughout the day and slowlyyyy increase it little by little
no str3ss here, every b0dy is different
if u want more, u can check out the tips i’ve already posted💓💓
good luck sweet!! 🐬
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faaun · 1 year ago
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last night i got home kind of tipsy and very much in tears and my mother told me the force you exert to keep someone in your life is proportional to the force with which they will leave your life. if you have to fight tooth and claw to keep them, their leaving will be just as hard, just as harsh, and just as definite.
#she said it like a law. its just momentum.#also she told me to get a therapist and start archery ASAP bc i need to get it together#and also she said even granting that this person u were in love w was So Special . as in hot motorcycle-riding iranian masc lesbian in ldn#they arent the only one on earth and that once i start my proper adult life outside of studies etc etc i will probably no longer live in th#UK. she said most non straight iranians u would like have left the country anyway . where do you think they went? theyre out there#and also she asked me to imagine how many hot gay iranians there may be in italy or amsterdam or smth and i was like ok points 😭 maybe#ur right. anyway i was having a feeling of dread bc crying into the arms of ur strict asian mother while buzzed usually results in#death chaos destruction etc in the next few days but actually i think maybe she has genuinely changed as a person and the fear is#unwarranted#anyway i need to eat breakfast and study w the date person i met yesterday#they are so nice ??? genuinely so so sweet i dont feel attracted to them at all omg i genuinely think i have a thing for hot evil ppl 😭#but we could b besties . theyre a lot more romantic than the ex situationship person too like generally . ugh they should be perfect but#alas it appears i am shallow as fuck or potentially a lesbian actually#OH THEY MIGHT ALSO BE POTENTIALLY A LESBIAN BTW#i think i just tend to not date cis ppl entirely by accident#....feel free to rb if u want btw sorry for the rant
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pronouncingitwang · 2 months ago
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adam scott says in the "inside the episode" of 2.07 that it allows the audience to "see the magic of gemma and why she immediately took over [mark's] life and his heart" and dichen lachman describes the ep in the severance podcast as "the audience getting to know [gemma] and everyone seeing what mark had that he lost." well, what about gemma? how much do we really get to know her? what did she lose? why did mark take over her heart?
they had 50 minutes for a Gemma Episode and they spent half of it on dead wife tropes and her smiling at mark with come-hither eyes while not giving us a single new fact* about her or a relationship outside of mark and mark's family. a subversion of the dead wife trope is not just scenes later showing they had an imperfect marriage bc mark (or nobody) is the problem in all of those scenes; you need to disrupt the idea that she was the perfect wife, and i don't think we get that. so much of it is explicitly presented through mark's pov. she doesn't hurt him at any point. she's just there being lovely or victimized as he loves or neglects her. everything we learned about her past gives more depth to his current grief but contributes little to our understanding of her current suffering or motivations. that could change with time, but for a first try, i think it's an abysmally bad showing
* that wasn't in mark's 1.07 monologue, his conversations with devon and alexa, or the the you you are pdf, all of which i think did a better job than this episode
#very okay to reblog obviously#i don't know how to express this in the body of the post but all the 'omg... we finally learned that gemma is a person' posting i'm seeing#rlly rubs me the wrong way both bc we didn't learn a new fact about her this ep and also bc well i already knew she was a person#they talked about her. i saw photos. i imagined her. i saw ms casey be a person. at no point did i think she WASN'T a person#and i think it's just bc ms casey is Strange and Offputting and in the podcast stiller describes lachman's performance as 'otherworldly'#and it feels. a little. racist. that that was the angle and how the audience took it. but that one might just be me#like you're all so impressed over nothing over no effort or skill! ANYWAY#mark may be the main char but so many chars have their own shit going on (ex: s1 irving one of severance's great successes)#why can't gemma. or at least can she have A Personality that isn't mark's wife or lumon's torturee#gemmas important to mark but he also has stuff w petey. w helly. w devon. w wanting to unite the severed floor. w etc. what does gemma have#also ppl saying mark is also her dead wife. how. explain it to me. what do you mean. that he motivates her actions?#the issue w the dead wife trope isn't that she motivates the man's actions it's about the agencyless female char. mark is not agencyless#sick and tired!!!!!! i can't believe the cw's supernatural did a better job than severance on giving depth to their opening fridged woman#severance#severance spoilers
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skrunksthatwunk · 10 days ago
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did my first ever used car browsing online and there's a car that's like really good on basically every aspect but the color is fucking NASTY. but ive been evolving a bit around it. and so now im like thinking "okay the bit's funny now but would it be funny in like seven years" kinda stuff
#like imagining my friends laughing (with me) at my car shouldn't factor into the buying process but it's sinking in anyway#we live in an area with really high auto crime rates right#so it being ugly and super visible would actually help with total theft at least. not sure about breaking my windows though#like i would be less likely to get hit at night bc of visibility but it's so nasty and indiscreet#what if i go on a date and they see the nightmare car and are like yk what nevermind#i'm gonna have to make eye contact with my coworkers after parking that there every day#and im gonna try to use it for as long as possible bc that's the goal anyway and also bc i know that shit is NOT reselling for ANYTHING#but its stats are so good i'd feel bad calling it a beater car...#anyway the most interesting choices are that and a really cute car with similarly good stats but#it's low vis and more expensive (but it's newer and diesel etc so like.. idk?)#it's a beetle... i'd love to cause violence via punchbug!!! also a conversation piece and not one that i have to like#put an eyes.train warning for!! yk!!! black beetle was made for me but at what cost#there's also other cars that are normal but those two are so memorable and almost feel like opposites#even though their stats actually overlap a good amount (like their mpg is the same i think)#if i have this car for the next 8+ years (the goal. the dream) then i better like it right#i want it to be durable and safe and cute and cost efficient#technically they're both all those things except the ugly car is ugly. but it IS funny in a way the beetle isnt!!#which is kind of like being cute#im so relieved to have a couple of car guys in my family bc idk shit about cars tbh#and i really thought i wouldn't care about what my car looked like but unfortunately i kind of do is what im realizing#and also i thought i didn't really have a dream car but i kind of do.. and it's a black beetle...#they're so cute to me... and it's small so parallel parking will be easier... and it's not like i'd drive many people around....#but its storage is bad and it's a convertible and idc about that but im probably paying more bc of it since other ppl care#ugh idk...#anyway#i mean. it would be nice to like my car... esp if i plan on using it for so long.... and a car that i won't get sick of....#but the beetle might not work well for transporting junk if i get into sculpture like i keep threatening to#and i feel like it might do badly in a wreck bc it's so tiny#ah idk...#update gonna have to say no to the beetle apparently that year's extra unreliable and they're already not the best cars
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welcometogrouchland · 4 months ago
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Noticing that TV and film will often have a character either have had an abortion in the past that isn't showcased on screen (and just used as part of the character's ~fucked up and twisted backstory~) OR contemplate getting an abortion in the present day but not to through with it. Just once I want to see someone delete that fetus within the events of the plot and not be like. Extremely majorly punished for it and/or be in the wrong
#ramblings of a lunatic#was watching a tv show w the fam recently and it's the 2nd series of a show that was clearly written with only 1 in mind#so in the 2nd season a character gets pregnant (bc ofc) and contemplates getting an abortion#only to do the whole 'omg she thinks she's lost the baby and realizes she wanted to keep it all along!'#which like. fine and valid and happens to ppl irl I'm sure#but like. this season doesn't establish if she wanted kids prior or if she has a stable job (she was struggling career wise-#-last season and the timeskip this season doesn't go into it)#AND has this fucking bizarre scene w/ her boyfriend (whos mostly been irrelevant and occasionally annoying up til now)#where he says it's 'our pregnancy' that she was going to terminate and when she (rightfully) bites back-#-saying 'you mean MY pregnancy?!' he just. storms off and deflects#which would be one thing but we have to wrap up the main plot so she just apologizes to him (for other plot stuff)#and we're never given any indication that his opinion has changed and they're just happily parenting at the end of the season#which just. left a bad taste in my mouth#like I KNOW i know not every bad thing said on screen needs a big blinking arrow that points out that it's Bad and Wrong#but idk how I'm supposed to feel in a series that has painted itself as explicitly feminist up til this point#presents the outcome of a woman dating and bearing a child for a man w seemingly zero respect for her bodily autonomy as happily ever after#w no follow up#like the whole series is centered on a group of sisters and this pregnancy story happened to the youngest one#who's always seen as needing to 'grow up' in season 1. so assuming this is meant to be building off that arc it's so WEIRD still#bc yes being a parent is an opportunity for many ppl to mature emotionally but that's not really something the character-#-reflects on all season. it's more abt her burying her past relationship w a season 1 guy (who was infinitely more interesting than new guy)#-than anything to do with that#AND EVEN IF IT WAS the notion of pregnancy as a punishment/reckoning meant to make her grow up or take responsibility-#-which is secretly a blessing in disguise i. god the show fell apart so hard here for me#and my mom and sister were just cooing over the baby at the end and i didn't speak up bc i didn't want to be a bitch#and in all fairness I'm probably being a tad uncharitable in this post but like. don't piss me OFF man#anyway. normalise abortion storylines that aren't backstory fodder and aren't fakeouts for baby plots. please
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beclight · 2 months ago
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im known for being THE bec light fan of the fandom, so i feel like im in the right place to say this: YOU DO NOT OWN FANDOM CHARACTERS AND CANNOT PREVENT OTHER PEOPLE FROM LIKING THEM JUST AS MUCH AS YOU DO, and if that makes you uncomfortable (which is fine, and for any reason), THE THING TO DO IS BLOCK NOT HARASS THEM!!!!!!! ive seen too many ppl in this fandom disrespect others over DARING to say, even as a joke, that they're the number one fan of X character. If someone having the same favorite group of pixels as you genuinely angers you, to the point of feeling the need to insult them and having concerning thoughts about them, then maybe it is time to log off
#not referring to anything recent#as i THANKFULLY havent seen it happen in a lil bit!!!#however it has happenned many times in the past and in those moments i was so thankful to have my fav be a rando no one is attached to LMAO#everyday im mortified at the thought that there COULD be other bec fans outthere that are scared of exclaiming their love for the character#-publically out of fear i'd attack or get mad at them for trying to “steal” my fav or some bs like that. this will NOT HAPPEN PLS GIVE BEC#-THE LOVE THEY DESERVE the more bec enjoyers we are the better :(#btw; this is NOT about non-sharing yumeshippers!! (important)#this is about people (most often not yumes at all smhow!) thatll go out of their way to ATTACK other members of a fandom for sharing a fav#“this is MY favorite character so it cant be anyone else's and if you claim it is i will insult you and humiliate you in front of others”we#-learned to share unimportant stuff in preschool? you're not even a yume so its even LESS justified to react like that over a char#even more stupid when its a main characters 99% of the fandom likes like. what do you think will happen browsing fandom spaces.#if you feel the need to throw all of eve's bitch-ionary at someone over having the same taste please get some offline rest and remember#THE BLOCK BUTTON EXISTS FOR THIS REASON???#if its harmless and you dont like it! block! block block block! throwing a fit like a 7yo reincarnation of eric cartman in the candy aisle-#-won't make you more legitimate in the title of the “biggest fan of X guy”. i promise you blocking people that make you personally-#-uncomfortable(without necessarily doing anything wrong)without insulting their bloodline is absolutely amazing. you should try it.#not bec light#ouhh me speaks#this sure is a lot of words#ik the fandom is full of mentally unstable ppl that rely on their favs for moral support; this however doesn't grant you the right to lack#respect towards strangers. I love bec and finn with all my heart and unless youre some kind of h*tler 2.0 i could not care less about if#they also bring you comfort! and if one day for any reason it starts bothering me; i would just start blocking/muting the people who post#about them! as simple as that. :( your fav/yume would NOT want you to be rude to the people who like them; so just IGNORE#it makes me sad for people who have a certain character as their fav/ F/O cuz ive seen them disputed a lot n theyre not even a main5 HELPPP#; as comma#OK IM DONE YAPPING i have school tomorrow hashtag goonight
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puppppppppy · 1 year ago
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i wrote this as a joke because I wanted to strangle a guy watching tiktoks without headphones on the bus, but im genuinely disturbed that we've gotten to a point where convenience comes first. and it depresses me even more that its used to justify and monetize greed
#like we have so many ways of doing things that could help us in the long run but because we're told it requires more work we just cant#its too resource intensive. or maybe its too much to maintain. we have to overlook benefits so money can go into more important things#we teach each other to do things a certain way so it works for everyone but who was it convenient for first? what abt who it might hurt?#i have to wonder if the rules our current system uses is worth listening to or following if it doesnt have our best interests in mind. u an#me and the ppl around us.. would we be better off if i ate my meals knowing the person who grew it wanted to feed others the way they could#feed themselves? and that isnt to say we're going to be happy doing it but i guess satisfied that its helping someone instead of quietly#accepting that itll eventually go in the dumpster behind a grocery store because it stopped looking appetizing or it wasnt on sale anymore#what about building homes so we can shelter each other? what if we were satisfied with what we did because we knew it would be paid back#with kindness? isnt that what we evolved to do?? heal each others bones and tell stories and help each other??#why dont houses come with solar panels or generators unless we find a way to make people pay to use the sun? why is our pooled money used#to fund genocides instead of education and hospitals? whose interests and convenience came first when we started this??#i wont pretend to know the answer because i dont. but we all know we're miserable and im sorry to say that i cant see myself fighting#for a world that wont fight for me too. why do we work if we cant live from it?? why did they stop us from plucking more teeth from our#bosses until they could build more walls around themselves and then go back to underpaying us??#im so tired. i cant even imagine making it to age 70#yapping#vent
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jamiethebee · 9 months ago
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You know what irks me the most about the mha ending. (Sorry I'm still on it.)
Like the early parts of the manga, there were so many grown up hero AUs in fandom (like storylines that took place when they're adults and heroes) and they're fun! A little silly!
And then we had the war arc and cities are being destroyed and everything's torn up and for over a hundred chapters, it's been oh huh I guess every AU like that will just be canon divergence lmao
And then Horikoshi basically wipes the slate clean so I guess all those AUs could technically canon compliant. There's not even much in the way of lasting physical damage! Because it's dealt with???? Immediately???? Within months?????
Which is fine! Nothing wrong with it! The AUs are fun! But, it just irks me that you could throw out half the manga because it didn't matter. Nothing majorly changed. Silly adult hero AUs for everyone I guess because the League may as well have been 2 bit villains for all the effect they had at large was. Idk. Maybe I'm bitter? Maybe my brain still trying to process the ending and the change in how AUs relate to canon? I guess - what was all the constant sprinkling in of "society has let people down" that we see from chapter 1? It meant nothing? I guess????? I mean A WAR HAPPENED. But whatever I guess heehee wasn't that soooooo silly???? That people's take on early story can be the same as post story?????
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march32nd · 3 days ago
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me when the girl i've been dating for two months tells me that she doesn't find me at all attractive and isn't attracted to me and doesn't know if she ever will be !!!!!
#aaand so i stay with her anyway???#because uhhh idk i'm fucking stupid i guess#also she said that a large part of the reason was that i “wasn't masc enough” or something#and like. if you are my mutual who is also my irl and is seeing this then hmmmm we have stuff to talk about i think#but also if you are one of my irls at all and you're seeing this then no you're not#anyway what do you think i should do [non rhetorical question] bc like uhhhh#and she was like ????? but i don't want to kiss someone who isn't attracted to me remotely#and like not to get into it too much but i have. already been in relationships where i was used for my body and for experimenting and stuff#and the idea of having to do that again makes me feel like i should die actually!!!#i mean the idea that apparently i've already been doing that again makes me feel so so disgusting and gross actually i don't fucking know??#but also i am a fucking idiot or something because i said that was fine and that i wouldn't go anywhere as long as she didn't want me to#ugh idk i try not to make a habit of venting on the internet but also like#half the problem is that i don't really have many friends here in real life at my college right and she was my closest friend before we#started seeing each other so that throws a major wrench in things and also means i don't really HAVE ppl i can vent to that aren't on the#internet so here you go i guess. whatever this is my blog anyway i can do what i want here#harperposting#sorry for yapping and sorry for dumping it all in the tags and ugh idk whatever but if one of you knows what i should be doing please lmk f#i am in fact soliciting advice
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bunnyboy-juice · 1 month ago
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OH MY GDD I FORGOT TO TELL YALL MY WIFE CAME HOME YESTERDAY AND JUST. WOOP. PICKED ME UP LIKE NOTHING. AND THEN DID IT AGAIN LIKE 20 MINUTES LATER AGAIN LIKE NOTHING.
#bunny rambles#she is so strong 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫#and admittedly ik she's been able to do this for a while cus she can throw me & ppl larger than me around in sex easy#but also like!!! i get so easily spooked when people touch my sides/waist/wrap their arms around me and my default response is to usually#throw myself on the floor but between the grief and sick and all i just. relaxed into her touch#this is a big deal for meeee i rarely let people touch me in ways where i can be manipulated physicallyyyyyy bc i so nervyyyy#yes this is why i like cnc so much. frankly cnc is like... my favorite bc i want sex often but im actually really bad at receiving touch and#cnc (whether it be intox or rape/molest play or somno etc etc) is a form of play that makes sex a lot easier bc my little white dog can have#its little freak outs without us having to Stop Completely. and i love that there is kink/play forms that allow me to be my flawed little#self and NOT feel like im letting whoever im with down bc. they're into it.#the relationship between my trauma and kink is i do kink play in Spite of my trauma btw. i fawned mostly with the experiences growing up so#being allowed to fight back is really nice. g-d i love my wife so much. when we met we started as fwb and she heard me out when i was like#hey look I'm real into u and im very carnally attracted to you and also if we take it any further with you touching me (she ate me out in#the backseat of her car our first hang out 😵‍💫 never let anyone do that b4 her) im gonna cry and she was like “okay! thats okay!” and we#got to have beautiful sex and i got to pleasure her and then we sat together and she let me just cry it out (bc its not something i can#control. its not me its the kid) & it turns out if im given the space to cry a couple times in vanilla settings when adjusting to new touch#I'll not only Stop but become a beloved sex pet. also this is why i say im rarely seeking and dont like pickup play as much bc i am forced#to only top in most circumstances which is fun and all but i do desire being touched also yk? and shes the only person whos ever really been#THIS patient with me. and it makes me happy that i was finally able to explore and embrace#my sexuality and desires and sexy fears and like. yeah. idk. big ramble of many topics < 3
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bell-swamp-fitzjames · 2 months ago
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mcdonald goodsir talking scene but its like an hour bc i just would like to see them talk more
#oh fics i must write things i must think#not to imply im not giving my two current fics my all i just am doing varying degrees of brain power on writing#i want to do a refresh on my one college gothic course bc i'm going to be doing ghosts in my next#multichapter fic where idk if this will change talk about things i need to pin down but#i think it will be collins crozier and eventually tozer who are able to see ghosts and they exist but i'm#going to be keeping it where generally ppl don't think this is real at all slash like#idk the spiritualism movement etc is like our real world but the thing is ghsots REALLY DO exist i guess osrt of just furthering#the yes and of tunnbaq actually eating these guys souls#but i also dont know what else im changing bc like rn its just like ok everything the same but i get to describe how to certain characters#its MUCH worse actually like imagine tozer seeing irving in camp only for him to later see his body being brought back idk#i think im gonna combo i tmaybe with the one wild thing i started back when venus in furs had me GOT#where tozer makes his own mutiny but ugh we shall see#i'm considering letting manson also see ghosts idk man i know this fic cant to everything but im also like#oh tee hee i can write morfin and collins and oh tom hartnell is here and of course tozer#and then new we are also saying fuck it and adding crozier which opens#lots of things#ENSEMBLE CAST CURSE YOU like looove this show but why are there so many guys#if i want to write a sick and cool fic i have to think about too many guys and then i shoot myself in the foot by going#yeah ok..... and what if we explored so much in this one thing#says the guy who also has to go through hoops to write terror fic sorry i forget my roots#i act like i didnt fucking make fictional show mickey's sister the same as his real life one and made her a lesbain in high school#LIKE MY BROTHER IN CHRIST it doesnt matter#i guess its just bc i worry i dont get these guys and again theres too many of them#like what if i write c#well they are all fictional#anyways i shouldn't put in the tags so much if you read this im giving u a kiss
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sweetandsourcookies · 11 months ago
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lying here in bed and thinking abt how alienated out i feel in the cookie run fandom. and then theres a polish sitcom playing in the background from a different room.
#mostly like. i feel so alienated out for like. having such different views of chars.#dark choco is a char i find myself to relate to a lot. i see so much of myself in him.#and yet. i cant get fully interested and that makes me feel. am i even a true fan of his character#if my interpretation is so vastly different from the fandoms#and how his kingdom is probably my least favourite out of all the ancients' kingdoms#for how i feel like ppl and the narrative tend to forget how dark cacaos kingdom is so flawed.#like the whole “no sweet meals” thing. i am not talking abt irl influences and how it impacts the presentation of the kingdom but more like#i feel like ppl tend to perfectionize dark cacao kingdom while ignoring a ton of systematic issues in it.#then theres my opinion on hollyberry. i love her. shes my favourite ancient. but i wish we got a more serious storyline with her#im not all catched up on the lore but i just wish rlly wish we got more of the hollyberry kingdom. and see holly display a wider range of-#-emotions.#i hope the eternal sugar update will get us some hollyberry kingdom angst because i need some more serious characterization for her that r-#-not just snippets#then theres. white lily. i feel like im the only person who liked the fact white lily got her own kingdom and was split into two versions.#it DID come out of nowhere but like. i feel like its sort of more interesting than just white lily being fully DE?#her update was a fiasco with how shadow milk stole the show that was meant to be hers.#but like. so many of my opinions are different than the fandoms that i just cant help but feel like an intruder sometimes#i dont want to sound like a pick me or someone who thinks they r special for being different. because im not.#i do not like this feeling. but i needed to be open abt it ig#cookie chat#theres also like. the lack of proper characterization for carrow besides “good loyal soldier”.#that annoys me as hell too#fyi i DO NOT hate dark cacao kingdom to be clear. i love it a ton. the cultural influences are so interesting and i love the setting.#i just wish ppl didnt brush off a lot of systematic flaws abt it.
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the-somwthing · 1 year ago
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Welcome to my little meta analysis essay called
Why do we misremember Flower Husbands as being “nicer” than it was?
Disclaimer: I’m not here to talk about whether or not FH is “toxic” or anything like that. It’s just a fact that many old fans rewatching FH POV and new fans who are watching it for the first time after seeing fan content tend to be surprised at how they actually behaved in the series compared to how everyone remembered them being back in the day. This will NOT go over whether or not I think FH is unhealthy or whatever and instead just discuss why I believe this phenomenon has happened.
So, if I try to make this a fancy well written essay, I’ll be here all day, so I’ll just get to the point. 3rd Life came out during the DSMP era of mcyt. MCRP has been around for ages, but the DSMP style of RP (which I’ll be calling “smp rp”) was pretty much popularized by DSMP, mostly towards the end of 2020. For reference, 3rd Life started early 2021, so there’s about a half a year between these two events, and DSMP kept going for years so 3rd Life was absolutely happening during the golden era of DSMP.
But what does DSMP have to do with this? Well, it sort of created this idea of “lore” and only specific things being “canon”. You can make fun of me for the way I worded that, but you know what I mean, DSMP was weird about that stuff. I don’t really blame them as it was kind of a new style of RP they accidentally spawned, but still, it was a confusing time for SMPs.
3rd Life was actually less like DSMP and more like the modern SMP RPs, where there’s no (known, lol) scripted events and the fandom itself deciphers what is or isn’t “canon” rather than it being told to them, with mostly everything being considered canon. HOWEVER, I do believe that DSMP’s style did still affect the fandom, specifically with the topic of this essay, Flower Husbands.
But why would it only really affect Flower Husbands? Now we get into a rough topic: shipping discourse. Back in those days, shipping in the mcyt fandom was heavily frowned upon. Moreso than it is today (I know it’s still around, but it was a lot worse the earlier we go lol). I’ve even seen old relics of ppl saying flower husbands should only be portrayed as platonic cuz it’s wrong to ship them, despite their team name literally being husbands. But more importantly, for A LOT of people, flower husbands was the One Ship people felt “allowed” to ship, BECAUSE it was canon. So they would allow FH and shun every other ship.
My point isn’t actually that, with it being the only “acceptable” ship everyone tried to make it more wholesome, though I suppose that could be a contributor. But my ACTUAL point is where all the things I laid out finally close in on each other:
Ships were a Dangerous territory in mcyt fandom, and ships being “canon” was something a lot of people weren’t prepared to deal with. People don’t want to get too close to RPF territory, but back in the day their ideas of c! vs cc! wasn’t as great, so they default to the DSMP Rule of “if it’s stated to be roleplay, then it’s canon to the characters, if not, it’s noncanon and just the CCs hanging out”.
You see where I’m going with this? When trying to follow this rule for a character relationship where they don’t explicitly state what is or isn’t RP, they hear “we’re married” and instantly mark that as canon to the characters since it clearly isn’t true to the CCs, and tend to block out anything else, otherwise you’re risking it not actually being true to the characters. Especially when it’s things like Scott saying something mean about Jimmy; that directly contradicts the “these characters are in love” thing, so it must not be canon, right?
But wouldn’t people still remember that these things happened, or did they actually straight up not process any of it? My answer to that is: of course everyone was paying attention, but with the context that it’s the CCs playing a video game, all of the teasing and other behavior seems WAY less serious. It just looks like average friends playing a hunger games smp together. And as I explained earlier, the fandom was ONLY processing this as a CC thing, so Scott’s treatment of Jimmy never stood out because that’s just how it is playing games.
Back to DSMP, I’m not active in that fandom anymore but I’ll see snippets sometimes, and I’ve seen the claim that beeduo was actually boring in canon and the fandom was the one that made it interesting. I feel like this is exactly what happened with FH. Nobody was actually expecting anyone to go hard into romantic roleplay, so the fans just take whichever pair says they’re getting married and fill in the blanks themselves. And that was normal back then, it wasn’t fans making stuff up for no reason, it was kind of expected of us.
So yeah, I personally believe that this whole confusion about FH is a result of its time. Whether you want to finally look at the actual substance of the relationship rather than following weird rules about what is or isn’t “canon”, or you believe that since FH was from a time where romantic RP was confusing and weird it would make the most sense to take into account the time period it came from and ignore the less appealing bits in favor of the fanon, I don’t really care honestly. But man isn’t this an interesting situation.
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subtlybrilliant · 3 months ago
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“Well aren’t you optimistic…”
Thanks, Karen. It’s either that or be dragged down into the unyielding abyss of despair again! :)
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aiscapades · 11 months ago
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this fandom about a monster fucking dating game makes me feel more welcome and included than any other fandom i've participated in
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