#and then i like black out and wake up having written multiple rambling paragraphs lol

[cuntylouis]

oh interesting! to me lestat's idolization of marius is so integral to his character that i can't see it not happening. the way he has been portrayed in s1, i think it would make sense for him as a character to not think of sex slavery/rape as anything particularily bad and just another thing that some vampires do to abuse others, if that makes sense. i think that it would go hand in hand with how he abused claudia in regards to her rape, mocking her, torturing her with the memories of the act etc. there is that one line from the books, i think he describes armand as "still being a scared orphan" (or something like that) so on some level he realizes what happend to him might not have been great (just like he admitted in the trial that what he did to louis was wrong), but i dont think that would be enough, for lack of a better word, for him to not want to be like marius (not saying that he wants to copy the way marius acts with his fledglings, but that it's not something that lestat would mind if someone else does it, if that makes sense) overall there are still things that would be great to be included in the show and finally done justice, compared to how horrible the books basically treated every storyline. i really want a well written tragedy and them giving all the characters so much more depth, let's hope for the best! (i always appreciate your long answers to the asks you get, because i think there is a lot of great discussions to be had about iwtv and it's nice to read what people think without it being derailed by some weirdos)

You're making me reconsider, maybe you're right that Lestat will still idolize Marius in the show at least on some level. Lestat is so cynical and has his unique views about evil or if such a thing even exists. He might be impressed by Marius' power and superficial charm and knowledge, and think 'well, i've done all kinds of horrible things to my fledglings, who am i to judge, we're both monsters'. Him experiencing shame and remorse for his actions in the modern time might make him only more likely to view Marius in idealized and somewhat sympathetic light, because he could see the monstrosity he sees in himself reflected in Marius and relate to him, and think that if he himself is ever going to redeem himself Marius must be redeemable too.

Because they seem to be going for some type of redemption arc for Lestat (at least Sam has several times indicated that Lestat has been depicted at his lowest and most awful in the show as a starting point for his character development) i could see them tying it with his relationship with Marius, Lestat initially making excuses for and idolizing him because Marius represents abusive white patriarchal power structures and qualities Lestat still deep down identifies with, and then he'd slowly over the series become disillusioned with Marius and everything he represents. But this is purely a guess, i don't know what will happen other than that i'm confident it'll be better than in the books. Also i really need to reread tvl and qotd because they come up constantly but details are getting fuzzy in my head