#and then go: *all putin is trying to do is denazify ukraine hes the good guy here* and im like 🙄

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"just because you are not conservative doesn't mean you are immune to propaganda"

Deadass, everything OP said!

I don't want detract from this post, so I put some of my thoughts here, under the cut

Bear with me here ...

You know how in the mind of Elon Musk stans, he is a genius who can do no wrong?

What about Kanye stans who, even after his antisemitism and support of Trump, won't ever say that he has done sO much wrong?

Or how Trumpers will never ever ever have a real problem with anything Trump does or says?

Or how centrists will fly into an absolute rage if you are critical of literally anything Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden have ever done?

Or if you barely mention that someone’s problematic fave (actors, musicians, athletes, etc) once did something wrong, their stans will immediately launch a venomous defense, because how dare you say their problematic fave is anything less than 100% perfect!!!!

Idk if zealotry or sycophancy is the word I’m looking for, but they’re both pretty close

It’s exactly the same thing with a lot of American “leftists” (aka tankies)

In their misguided defense of “communism” they will ignore every war crime that the Russian army is committing, hand wave away every rape victim of the Russian army, and victim blame every noncombatant civilian murdered and disposed of in mass graves by the Red army and the Wagner Group

There is literally no crime Putin could do that is so evil that tankies won't rationalize it away

And they throw up a whatsboutism, or a yeah but

“YEAH BUT look at what American did!”

“WHAT ABOUT American war crimes?”

My answer: That shit is also indefensible and wrong, AND??

As if two bad things cannot simultaneously be wrong

As if Russia’s imperialism should somehow be negated --or worse, excused away-- because of America’s imperialism

Talk about looking at the world through jaundiced eyes

These are deeply unserious people, and their level of sycophancy is absolutely no different than a Christian evangelical (or any other religious zealot) trying to explain why their defense of their religion is okay, but all of the other religions are the “wrong” ones

Absolutely no different

In what world do you look at any person, government or institution and fix your mouth to say they are not and have not ever been gravely wrong about anything important? "America is a shit hole (I'm not arguing it isn't), but Russia is an innocent superpower that is only acting to defend itself." Please GTFOHWTBS. That's childlike thinking and it very easily lends itself to authoritarianism

Every time Russia fires another missile into Ukraine, tankies go, "Did you see that? See what America is doing?"

I look at all of these groups with the same degree of incredulity and more than a little contempt

I just block a long term mutual who spout nonsense about how Ukraine is waging the war against their own people and they are the bad guys etc etc Russia good. This mutual is a leftist too like me and a proof that just because you are not conservative doesn't mean you are immune to propaganda

I don't care if you are a fellow leftist if you are repeating tankie bs about how Ukraine which is a country that is fucking invaded is also the bad guy just because you don't like USA you will be blocked on sight. Stop spreading nonsense

"Oh WAr in UkrAinE is A ProxY bY uSA—" it's Putin ransacking his own neighbors. I'm very critical of USA as well, but people like this guy is drinking Kool-Aid and ironically agreeing with conservative