#and the misogyny within
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people will try to treat transgender as if it is a material class of people but it functionally is not
#by multiple definitions of transgender i would be considered trans#that's why the idea of ''historic trans people'' is laughable to me#the entire concept of trans only exists within the context of a society's gender roles#therefore it can only exist as a result of misogyny#and like yes you are correct! multiple cultures throughout history have been misogynistic!
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Shoutout to Nejire for being one of the only characters to acknowledge Izuku's feats during the Overhaul Arc.
The manga should have let them be friends. For as nerdy and neurodivergent coded as Izuku is portrayed in BNHA, the story sure goes out of its way to minimize his interaction with any weird girls
#bnha reread#bnha 161#bnha#hado nejire#midoriya izuku#ochako is a good character but she is a very average person who fits easily within the norm both to the reader and in universe#blah blah blah something abt misogyny in shounen and not allowing a similar spectrum of personhood for its girls#to be fair bnha sometimes allows women to exist outside of a narrow mold but they are either gags - one off characters - or villains
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"I'm team feminist/feminism!" But will quickly drag a female character through the mud without sympathy for their circumstances just because they don't fit your ideals, will get mad when poc criticize a female character's actions that are very thinly coded in racism and say "support her crimes!" while ignoring how that often leads to the harm of poc characters, will shade woc characters or put them on higher pedestals than their yte counterparts while ignoring the harm they face while trying to meet your standards, will victim blame those who suffer (and are still suffering) from abuse when they act out in ways you deem "wrong" because of it, following up with the last point will mock and laugh at said abuse to uplift another female character (pitting women against women, even when the narrative does not ask for that), will dismiss any valuable argument displayed if the said female character is a little mean but then go and say "why can't female characters be mean? 🙄"
I could go on.
#fandom misogyny#misogny#like these are just things ive experienced within different fandoms just within the past two months! first bridgerton now hotd#i can't catch a break!#this was especially prevalent with lovecraft country when people were cheering on christine but ignoring the harm she put black people &#black women through just because she also faced oppression from her male peers but ignored how she used her privilege to harm others#many will be quick to make fun of alicent's abuse but then say they are on the side of feminism#news flash: if you ever have to make fun of someone being harmed to drive your point u need better debate skills#also need a life check bc that's so gross#and while im not saying every female character has to be perfect/can't be flawed#or that you can't enjoy flawed female characters its very obvious some rhetoric in these arguments are very harmful#especially again to pocs!#anti penelope featherington#hotd critical#fandom criticism#alicent hightower#eloise bridgerton#rhaenyra targeryan#bonnie bennett#this is more so a rant and idk how to really tag this#fandom racism#pls dni if you can't have a collected conversation on this topic#bridgerton#anti wanda maximoff#monica rambeau
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not sure there has ever been a worse time to be a woman or girl in the uk. random stabbing attacks, crimes on trains increased by 50% in the last few years, 50 women murdered by men since the start of the year ... and absolutely no urgency whatsoever. it's terrifying.
#and it's gross that morons are trying to claim that it's an issue with immigration it's NOT. THE ISSUE IS MEN !!#MEN OF ANY COLOUR OR CREED OR RELIGION OR BACKGROUND. THE PROBLEM IS MEN !!#we need some sort of feminist uprising. if this country wasn't full of fuckheads these protests would've been about feminism#and inherent misogyny within our police forces / fire services / health services / security guards#because immigrant women are just as likely if not more likely to be targeted ! becaue they have little support outside family circles !#because of the racism of this country !#i will always stand with my immigrant sisters. we need to band together and unite against the real threat.
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genuinely p4 fandom outside of tumblr makes u feel like ur living in an alternate reality. You say hey I think u can easily read trans subtext and text in Naoto’s story because the game quite literally talks about transition surgery, and people act like you’re the insane one.
#I love being mansplained about misogyny in Japan by white dudes as well that’s. a truly incomparable experience#like I KNOW what narrative goal the story is trying to achieve man#but to reject a queer reading of the text as utterly incompatible (specifically ‘culturally incompatible’) is just stupid#you can literally examine the works of Japanese queer scholarship and look at the ways trans identity was conceptualised at that point#in time (and specifically pathologised as a mental disorder)#and how that was reinforced by depictions within Japanese art etc#queer identity MUST be acknowledged to exist within its specific cultural context yes#and we should not apply our cultural context as normative#but to decry that it simply doesn’t exist and that to make any queer reading of Japanese art is somehow ‘tainting’ the text by association#is just. crazy to me.#tunes talks critical#tunes talks persona
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It's proposal day! It's another Lucy day!
One thing that I noticed in between the suitors, and Lucy's non explained accepted proposal is how the tone in the paragraph where she talks about the sexist ideas of women being lesser than men seems to be... dejected, and I dare to say exhausted.
I suppose that we women are such cowards that we think a man will save us from fears, and we marry him.
The language that Lucy uses, the sudden inclusion of it when she is talking about the proposals, all of it feels like a rehearsed point that has been hammered into Lucy's head many times. It reads as she is is trying to interrupt her sadness over rejecting Quincey and Jack by reminding herself that her feeling don't matter in the situation.
This is not only simple misogynist ideals that Bram Stoker included in a female character, but also there is something deeper there that alludes to Lucy restricting herself because of her education as a lady.
Mr. Seward, and Mr. Morris are the ones suffering after the proposals, not her. She, the 19 years girl who is for the first time steping into the role of victorian woman, is the cause of their suffering, so Lucy as a woman cannot feel bad for herself because her own existance isn't noble nor worthy. Lucy must center her conflicting feelings, and her tears around the two gentleman she had to reject.
This is not an opinion for Lucy, it's a fact that her entire social, and cultural environment has been telling her since she was born. However there is this little detail that makes her comments a little bit worse for her mental space.
why are men so noble when we women are so little worthy of them? Here was I almost making fun of this great-hearted, true gentleman.
Remember that this is Lucy writing to Mina, and consequently Jonathan because she gave her permission to tell him; two people that she is implied to know since chilhood, and two lovers that definitely do not follow the picture that Lucy paints. In this letter Lucy is almost baring her soul enough to Mina, who despite most likely holding the same ideals doesn't experience the actual whole weight of them as a woman.
Even if it's very clear that she is utterly smittem with Arthur, does Lucy longs for the odd for the times dynamic of Mina and Jonathan? Does she feels that as much as she loves Arthur with all of heart, all of that stuff will still resonate in every step, and action she takes in their marriage?
Oh, why must a man like that be made unhappy when there are lots of girls about who would worship the very ground he trod on? I know I would if I were free—only I don't want to be free. ... I am very, very happy, and I don't know what I have done to deserve it.
Lucy is midly aware that her position is a cage, even if she chose the man she will marry she still views her own decision as the entrance of a cage. However, thanks to her upbringing, Lucy doesn't see this as an opportunity to try, and build a relationship with equal footing like Mina, instead Lucy tells herself that she, as a woman, doesn't deserve enough the happiness she feels.
And that is so tragic.
#New skill unlocked: let's examine the misogyny in this book in a deeper manner#Yes it's bad yes it was a product of its time (even thought some ideas are still today but that's another conversation) but why is it bad#How is it bad and in what way influences both Lucy and Mina within the narrative#dracula daily#dracula#lucy westenra
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More cringe memes. Lucrecia Edition.
#ff7#ffvii#final fantasy 7#dirge of cerberus#lucrecia crescent#Hojo#sephcanons#And don't @ me for this#I recognize that Lucrecia was very much in the wrong for her involvement in the Jenova Project#She is just as guilty as everyone else#HOWEVER there's lots of room to suggest she had no idea what she was really getting herself into#And unlike Hojo she isn't doing this to be a sadist nor was her intention to have her own child taken from her#Lucrecia needs a rewrite but what's there has some serious layers#Also I feel like there's an ugly underbelly of misogyny within the fandom when it comes to its hatred for Lucrecia#Lucrecia is allowed to have done horrible things without being the villain#Good people can do horrible HORRIBLE things#Lucrecia isn't evil she's a stubborn dumbass who kept trying to fix her mistakes and dug herself deeper as a result#But she never wanted Vincent or Sephiroth to suffer#She wanted Vincent alive#And she wanted to hold her son#There's nothing saying that Hojo wasn't manipulating her the entire time#Remember in the OG it's implied he was drugging her into compliance#Part 3 may very well clear some things up
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If I was better with words I’d write an entire thesis-length essay on not just the deeply-entrenched antisemitism of all this, but also the deeply-DEEPLY-entrenched misogyny of this whole past year
#even within the jewish community there are aspects of it that have not fully been acknowledged#like how the female field observers were (and still are) ignored and talked down to#and yet were some of the first to be killed/assaulted/kidnapped#like that is something that is occasionally mentioned but i feel hasn’t really been deeply acknowledged in the jewish community#at least from what I’ve seen#antisemitism#antisemitic misogyny#misogyny#the jewish experience tag
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grit my teeth and hold myself back from fighting someone every time i see the sentiment of "wow can you believe people actually think nightheart is sexist? and that liking nightheart makes you a misogynist? how crazy is that lol" out in the wild. nooooo that's not what the discourse actually was. you have fallen for the dismissive surface level takeaway people had from a genuine discussion about wider trends of misogyny in the writing, that makes said criticisms out as irrational and hysterical as possible. you will now associate any criticisms of misogyny in the series with this hyperbolic strawman
#it makes me feel like im playing 4d warrior cats opinion chess but in a bad way#this doesnt just happen with misogyny btw. 'WOW can you believe people were screaming about kids putting feathers on cats for being RACIST?#well yeah actually i was there it was a genuine plea from native american warriors fans about anti-indigenous stereotypes#in both the worldbuilding of the books itself and the fandom. the racism within the writing of warriors itself codes the cats as native#in a way that exoticises and others those cultures and draws into harmful stereotypes already#so the fandom's use of head feathers on top of this was extremely uncomfortable for a lot of native american fans#and people were trying to gently but firmly raise awareness of this and suggest alternative ways to incorporate feathers into designs#but you already view this issue as a joke i guess so are now predisposed to be hostile to the very idea
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one of these days I'm gonna completely lose it and write about how blue lock's shounen genre misogyny (which isn't to say that it gets a pass because the shounen genre is known for being misogynistic. blue lock is worse than average in this regard. blue lock's very premise is built on misogyny in a way I don't think has been analyzed enough even by people who are aware of the real-world women's football it totally disregards) and accompanying shounen genre-typical totalizing ideal of masculinity result in giving the different play positions the characters have notable gendered connotations, mostly by accident
#bolo liveblogs#blue lock#tl;dr if you create a single-gender space that is centered around becoming the Best Adult you can be#(with the implicit assumption that this requires being the best adult of *that gender* that you can be specifically)#(growing up into the appropriate gendered role)#with a very specific path set out as the correct way to do that (being a striker)#...what does it mean to not be a striker? are non-strikers failed men? what does it mean to be an ''incorrect'' man?#it creates a weird pseudo-binary (trinary?) within the one-gender space of blue lock through sheer power of misogyny#it's kind of fascinating. I told my mom all of this after we watched epinagi and she looked at me like I was crazy
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"And that's what ultimately made him stay and be fond of what used to be Yunmeng Jiang, [...] Jiang Yanli certainly wasn't grand, but kindness is always remembered more personally and why she is so important to Wei Wuxian." finally someone that gets it. I tried to convey that while writing, that he does leave eventually in that universe but that every day he stayed there was because of her and her unwavering kindness.
She wasn't very strong but she was kind in a world that urged her not to be and that's enough strength for me. I believe WWX loved her and that she loved him and that's why she chose to save him in that moment. She was strong then and people keep denying her that.
Hello,anon!
I think there are several factors as to why fandom is very harsh on Jiang Yanli that stem from misogyny. Casual misogyny, internalized misogyny against the gender and the everyday social accepted misogyny that is ingrained in us by what we see from most depictions of women that are counterproductive and outright contradictory in what we should be or tell ourselves we can just be.
Usually kindness and softness are seen as a weakness for women and is mocked as either being too feminine in execution and disdained in nature despite it desperately being something humans really want and crave as natural instinct. Kindness is weak in Jiang Yanli because she does not have the physical clout to uphold the protection wanted doe Wei Wuxian, but Wei Wuxian also never holds that as something she needs to strive for to be a good person. While he values strength he values the kindness in being able to use that talent for other's benefits even more.
He never disparaged the women in the work for their own positions or even judges some of the routes they take for survival because he understands the unfairness in the Jianghu and overarching society they are from that is not kind to idealism, love, kindness, and softness. He thinks it's commendable to live and be able to flourish against that though by trying to stay nurturing and loving.
What draws him inherently is kindness towards the people he befriends and continues to interact with. And also meets that kindness for kindness. MXTX main characters as men wonderfully incorporate what the general confucian gentlemen is expected to be and that does include the idealism of treating women as respectable people which is a usual counterpoint for a traditional practice steeped within misogyny and hypocrisy. There is a very blurred line of praise of men that shows these traits to be masculine while condemned in women from overarching real world politics that are superimposed upon Jiang Yanli.
What is praised in the man, is mocked for the woman. Fascinatingly sad when a simple "why" is asked in terms of what Jiang Yanli did wrong, that is not also mirrored in Lan Wangji her counterpart in caring and loving Wei Wuxian in the same capacity but romantically. Which is the one that usually gets reasonably defended about their actions and said "nothing more could be done by them" and that is usually unanimously agreed upon due to the logic of the world Wei Wuxian was created for?
#mdzs#mo dao zu shi#jiang yanli#wei wuxian#lan wangji#MXTX knows the casual misogyny of her own audience as well#and in each of her works thoroughly criticizes that mindset#even within the use and sympathy of her main male characters
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miss ini miney you mean the world to me
#the fact that she isnt a more popular character within the fandom is proof that misogyny is alive and well#shes a silly little guy. shes a murderer. shes a sympathetic villain. shes got a horrifying tragic backstory.#if this was a male character theyd be an instant fan favourite#ini miney#mimi miney#ace attorney#she was the blueprint
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I GOT TO THE PART IN DEATH NOTE WHEN LIGHT’S FATHER IS ACTING OUT THE SCENE OF KILLING LIGHT MISA & THEN HIMSELF BECAUSE L TOLD HIM HE HAD TO & I NEARLY FELL OUT OF MY SEAT FLINCHING FROM THE BIBLICAL SYMBOLISM (THE STORY OF ABRAHAM ISAAC & GOD) 63 DEAD 490 INJURED
#death note#hit me like a gd truck#however the one thing wrong with it is that there’s no real place for misa to be within the metaphor. misogyny innit#caps /#sui ment /#religion ment /
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calling lesbians/bi women who face misogyny for not being conventionally attractive t*rfs without even thinking for a second like... if this is your idea of being supportive to trans women then im sorry to say but you're not helping at all. like some of you mfs can't even fathom to see trans women without makeup or "not being feminine enough" so i suggest you guys should shut up because your fake ass excuse of activism isn't doing anyone any good. clearly you don't care about transmisogyny or misogyny in general, you guys seem to have a blast calling random people t*rfs while actual t*rfs get away with harassing transfems and you fuckers wont even bat an eye
#like please can you guys just think before talking?? what good are you doing anyone by calling them t*rfs when they're simply addressing..#..the misogyny masc dykes and transfems face within the community for not appealing to their standards??
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being a lesbian is so beautiful actually, i'm so grateful i get to experience life this way
#it can be hard sometimes because of the double whammy homophobia/misogyny you get from all angles#including within the lgbt community#but despite all of that it's still so joyous for meeeee#hugs and kisses to all my fellow lesbians out there happy lesbian day!!!
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besides everything else, James Somerton is a great example of using progressive language to espouse misogynistic ideas. No one sentence of his was outright misogynistic, but when you zoom out and view the pattern it becomes a worldview.
It's insidious because it's hard to prove without making a 2 hour deep dive so you can have all of the necessary examples on hand. But personally I think it's worse than outright "ironic" sexist jokes specifically because it's so stealthy. It takes an hbomb video for people to even notice, and in the meantime it's allowed to continue and do more damage to the people who absorb that worldview.
#james somerton#just to be clear I'm not claiming that somerton fans were all uncritically adopting a misogynistic worldview by virtue of watching him#but I've argued on the internet for long enough to know 'how it is misogynistic to claim [blaming women for a problem]' is EXTREMELY common#even within progressive spaces. and it's hard to fight against#people don't know what misogyny looks like if it isn't loud
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