#and that's not what riverdale is about
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give a basic bitch a semi-decent coming out storyline and they'll act like this is the greatest thing ever done and pretend this is the first good thing coming off a media they're so predictable
#yes this is a reaction to people who watched choni's scene from 704 and say things like 'omg rvd is finally good'#like a show NEEDS to be realistic to be good#and that's not what riverdale is about#and this is so insulting to the cast#to pretend they're bad when the show gives them whacky storylines and that they're only good when their scenes are serious#because guess what? they're good in both case#and yeah madelaine is eating up this cheryl storyline#but she has been constantly great as cheryl for years#she had weaker moments in the early seasons (like cami kj or even vanessa)#and she had serious/sad scenes at the time#but now she does them with the nuance required#because she's a better actress now than 6 years ago#and she's as good when cheryl does crazy stuff like ripping archie's heart out#so don't pretend she needed that moment of vulnerability as cheryl to show she can act because she's been good for years now#just say camp and irrealism is not your thing#because these kids can ACT and this show allows them to act and do plenty of different stuff#spent years calling cami a terrible actress only to be blown away by her performance in do revenge#they need to understand that good ≠ serious#and the riverdale cast clearly has range#especially the girls#riverdale cast
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joaquin left riverdale on a bus headed to san junipero to save himself, but then he comes back to riverdale to help save fangs and for that choice he gets imprisoned, blackmailed, and murdered before he even graduates high school. but then in another lifetime, where joaquin never existed, where fangs makes it to graduation (heterosexually (?)) and tries to leave riverdale for good, his bus crashes. town that kills you if you leave! town that kills you if you stay! town that kills you and kills you and kills y
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Are true riverdale fans of the opinion it is a very good and nearly flawless show or does being a true riverdale fan mean being able to mock writing choices
it's long-running serial television plotted a season/half at a time so definitely not even "nearly" flawless.
BUT. i'm not doing combat with the writing team. i'm not actively reading against the text the way i have to in order to enjoy something like supernatural or the 90s robin comics or the fucking sopranos, which are patriarchal christiancore copworld rapeworld white supremacist horrorshows that hate their minority audiences, with like 2 good creatives involved and martyring themselves to fight the good fight on sparse rare installments if you try to approach them sincerely.
riverdale writing staff are like a favorite smart problematic tumblr mutual to me. I don't always like what's on their blog or who they're referencing. but we're in the same community and i'm interested and inspired and i trust their agenda overall, even when i see shit i wouldn't have fucking posted. but bc i'm not being condescended to or actively spited i'm not gonna condescend to or spite them, you know?
i expect rvd to age like twin peaks (another very uneven, highly referential serial juggling a couple of intensely cool metanarratives on top of its core story). and twin peaks fandom mocks twin peaks all the time. twin peaks includes some CLUNKY shit. it's kitsch. it's camp. it has a second season that is largely ASS. james is there. and on top of that it also includes some genuinely offputting-to-me stuff that just bothers me to sit through, even though i feel like i understand and respect what they're going for with it. i just don't want to watch someone sweep the fucking bar for minutes and minutes as entertainment. OK!!?
...so yeah. mock riverdale but in the right spirit. is that an answer? do i sound like i'm chugging the flavoraid koolaid fresh-aid? probably.
#i like the way people mock the flop parts of twin peaks and i enjoy it when people mock the flop parts of riverdale in the same tone#but rvd NOT one of those shows where the fandom is the thing that makes it good by appropriating and rearranging it. like some listed above#riverdale isn't dumb. it's not thoughtless. it's a lowbrow postmodern love letter to trash media and it takes a lot of big risky swings.#and its juggling act does NOT always work in practice. i don't always agree with the tradeoffs it takes to balance like.#the mainline text AND the queer subtext AND the fanfictiony iterative media riffs AND the genre meta AND the actual canonical metaplot#but it really does reward curiosity and close-reading. it's like a little puzzle cube you have to turn over a few times sometimes to solve#i feel judgmental about people who hit 'post' on what's obviously like a very surface level reaction without much thought put into it#ohhh the show challenged you? the show folded continuity over on itself and you can't hang anymore? you didn't get what you expected?#and now you're being dismissive instead of sitting with it? ok. dork.#riverdale#(it's not really that serious. but you asked and i'm feeling so so very earnest about Posting today. love you thanks for asking)#(would love to know what parts you most want to mock. i have my own list. eNdGaMe is at the top of it. jughead's mommy issues era too)
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*grabs you by the shoulders* it’s about love!!! it’s always been about love!! every action and every choice!! it’s a cycle!! it’s a driving force!!! we do things because we love them! and because of love!! does the earth not love us for giving us every breath we take, and do we in turn not love the earth for giving it to us!!
#no idea what I’m taking about I’m crying over a video Ryan made about a voice message milo sent hours ago talking about GAY KEVIN.#FROM RIVERDALE#this is what life is all about it’s about joy and laughter and love and pleasure both simple and not.#I love my friendsssss#I LOVE MY FRIENDSSSSS#jude.txt
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people's complaints about the riverdale polycule ending are so stupid like why are you complaining that 4 people dating was too shocking or silly. it should have been the whole town in that polycule 🚬
#core four polycule beautiful and true but what is this season 3? what about cheronica...#riverdale#thing
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What type of 'Die a hero or live long enough to become a villain' shut is Netflix PULLING RN!!!!!
Either they'll nuke a show after 1/2 good seasons for really no reason, or give it a handful of seasons that progressively get worse until its the most unwatchable shit imaginable
#guess what im talking about?#cuz you coukd literally say ANYTHING#here are a few examples that are personal to me#dead boy detectives#dbda#the umbrella academy#tua#tua season 4#julie and the phantoms#jatp#because i saw a post about them the other day and am annoyed again#shadow and bone#how could i FORGET THAT#six of crows#sex education#i am not okay with this#even fucking riverdale but thats a separate thing i fear#please add more of you feel personally targeted by Netflixs bullshit#netflix#fuck you netflix
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#that moment where a character that you used to hate becomes one of the characters that you relate too the most
#riverdale#riverdaleedit#*#cheryl blossom#femalegifsource#useraurore#userconstance#userdre#userlix#usermarsy#useryusi#tuserbelovas#tuserlana#addys-beth#i could get in depth about this but its very personal#and i feel like the gifset gives a basic explanation of what is happening to me#but yea...#seeing this while watching the choni supercut may have changed my life#cheryl blossom i love you so much#i think that liking her rather than hating her was a turning point for me#as the past few years i haven't been the best mentally#(i haven't been good mentally for a long time but recently its been fucking terrible)#and ive hurt a lot of people due to that#but i am trying so hard to get better#but to quote lizzie saltzman no matter how far i come i can feel my own mind plotting against me#trying to make me lose everything that i've worked for#but watching/remebering cheryl's story through the choni supercut has been rly good for me#like I AM CHERYL BLOSSOM and im rly happy about that!#schitzophrenia tag#mecore
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early s1 riverdale is so funny because there's so much drama about how archie and jughead ~used to be friends~ and had this ~epic falling-out~ and they keep saying shit to each other like "you don't even know me anymore!" "i used to know you." and the whole time it's because archie bailed on a roadtrip they were supposed to take, like, six weeks earlier
#riverdale#like archie what do you mean 'what do you even know about me?' you were friends up until this july and it's september now
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no but like what is up with the wider shipping community and their way of allowashing clearly aspec-coded characters. or hell. even canon confirmed aspec characters. this amanormativity shit is making me tired. does a character really need to wear a giant shirt that says “i’m asexual” or “i’m aromantic” or “i’m aroace” in all caps and flaming text to tell everyone not to ship them the same way allo characters get shipped. we are not a monolith but i know i can sure as hell say our experiences will never be the same as an allo person’s
#this post was made after i read up about what they did to jughead in riverdale#i have never read archie comics but i knew jughead for years because he was a canon aroace#and then it led me to think about my other blorbos who are also clearly aspec#who got allowashed to hell in shipping#motherfucking. ford pines. miles edgeworth. EVEN LITERALLY SAIKI KUSUO#kiwi’s calls#kiwi’s aspec posting#aspec
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#riverdale#speechless#quick zoom to daredevil jumpsuit under a mid length brown leather trenchcoat one leg up for a sassy stance framed by muted pastel pink wall#thats what riverdale's all about#edgar evernever#♡
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Her music isnt bad. But largely unremarkable in a way that makes me believe chappel roan was manufactured in a pharmaceutical lab specifically for straight women who wanted to have a ‘but I listen to X!’ card for when they get a liiiittle too homophobic.
#granted I thought this about Billie eilish but I’m starting to like her unfortunately#also she came out of nowhere like so many newer artists and the way I learn about them is people being like#lol is this about peecie oflava? on my posts and I go look peecie up and she sounds like Ezra uh#what’s her name#furman. I like Ezra furman#I like chappel roan too#but it’s true#like. riverdale music Yknow. I like riverdale too#I think in part it’s bc I don’t beleive her look or lyrics or sound#do you know what I mean it’s like I just am not buying it sorry
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I love getting to draw whatever I want. :)
#I dunno what the archie fandom thinks about him#but I headcanon that dilton is the absolute queerest little guy in all of riverdale#(completely arbitrarily)#this isn’t simply trans. this is something way more complicated.#(this is also 100% projecting)#archie comics#dilton doiley#midge klump#archie andrews#my art#see he’s a nerd so he has to say things like ‘calculated’ even when the word might not have the proper connotation for this scenario#i don’t make the rules
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Pour one out for Reggie, always second choice for the Lodges after Archie
SECOND CHOICE FOR EVERYONE. like literally it is so hard to evaluate reggie (especially w/r/t the lodges) without bringing in The Tragedy Of The Side Character Rival-Foil who exists in the narrative to experience B-plot versions of the A-plot in miniature
riverdale-the-metanarrative is so blatantly full of guys who are different versions of archie and where his character could go in the story if he didn't have to be the protagonist-hero - munroe as the jaded star fighter with the same nickname hiram originally used on archie as an endearment, who could get out of this damn town if he commits to sports. eric jackson as the disabled vet with unmanaged ptsd who betrayed his unit for a manipulative man in authority who just gets to be a respectable figure in society while his groomed victims suffer (and he could speak up and get justice if he's willing to handle the social impacts of being labeled a survivor). kevin as the openly-gay damagingly-impulsive, validation-seeking, people-pleasing, insecure joiner with a nice-but-emotionally-distant dad who keeps trying to find happiness through in-group conformism. julian s7 as literal understudy, and the guy who died in war (also got targeted and negged by s7 reboot hiram lodge in the s7 reboot version of wrestling. dramatic monologues).
reggie is like. the most powerful and tragic of all of these archie analogs bc he's sometimes a rival, too. so his jealousy and inferiority complex towards archie exists both inside and outside of the narrative! all of those other archie reflections aren't also competing with him and comparing themselves to him and constantly getting handed his leftovers and cast-offs and feeling that that is what's happening. but reggie is :\
anyway. so tragic. love u reggie
#this is one of the things that makes veggie an especially interesting ship to me. both of them know about being secondary to archie#btw don't even get me started on how fucked up citizen lodge is if you're reggie#the way it's so palpable as hiram is spinning his yarn that he'd rather be telling this story to archie and is annoyed by reggie's takes#reggie literally can't help it. he's going to lose every time anyone compares and it doesn't even matter what rubric they're using#he's destined to never ever measure up. even in the henchman olympics he's more loyal but he's TOO loyal actually. what about your dad#hiramaissance#riverdale#reggie mantle#archie andrews
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at the end of the day we will always have seven seasons of riverdale. no one can take that from us
#thinking about how people bring riverdale up everytime their favorite show is canceled#sorry it didn’t have what riverdale did#everyone wants riverdale’s nachos whether they want to admit it or not#riverdale#my post
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im fascinated by a certain brand of riverdale viewers that seem to only want whatever white picket fence normative ending they thought of 6 years ago and are also somehow unaware this is not how all other people watch riverdale like we’ve all seen the “making this previously straight character bisexual now is actually offensive to gay people and it’s queerbaiting when they gay kiss and have gay sex and talk about gay feelings” people (which is code for we already have the safely designated gay characters who we have already labelled in our heads as gay characters and so we dont care about them or think about them beyond the fact that gay 1 and gay 2 go together because they’re the gay ones) and now also the “the core 4 ending up in a quad together is just a cop out so they dont have to pick barchie or bughead and no one has ever even considered it ever” people while the riverdale bloggers have been like yeah those 4 are psychosexual about each other since day one it’s like we always say the core four are in all ways except literal in a polyamorous relationship. i mean how can you be so unaware of the gay riverdale posters if i’ve seen you you’ve probably seen me be real
#the thing is 1 it's 2023 gay truthinng is very popular and 2 there's not that many people posting about riverdale 3 theyre on tumblr dot com#so. what gives#riverdale#thing
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Gay Archie, chasing Reggie back to his family's farm after Uncle Frank discovered their forbidden romance and kicked Reggie out of their home: What if you and me had a little ranch somewhere? It'd be a sweet life. You'd be this rancher and I'd be your farmhand and we'd both just be doing our thing.
Reggie: I told you, it ain't gonna be that way. You know, you have Betty back in Riverdale, and I've got my farm here.
Gay Archie, on the verge of gay tears: Well, try this one and I'll say it just once: We could've had a good life together! A real good life! Had us a place of our own. But you didn't want it, Reggie! So what we got now is the epic highs and lows of high school basketball!
#yes this is combining two different brokeback mtn quotes AND a jarchie quote what about it#riverdale
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