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spaceorphan18 · 10 months ago
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Have you read the latest script of K&J's podcast about the Michael episode? I'm very interested in hearing your thoughts. They were talking about Jenna acting out and being forced to take time off. And they mentioned being upset because other people were acting out and getting storylines or being given time off to do other things. The later one is def about D since he went to do the musical but I can't believe he would act out for that, it's like totally OOC.
Same anon as before as I was just finishing to read the script. They did indeed talk about Darren being written off and I'm debating if I should listen this time because the way it's written they seem very jealous of him. I'm getting upset by just reading this. So I'm still very curious about your thoughts about it if and when you have the chance to read/listen to it.
I actually figured you guys were all tired of my opinions, lol.
Yes, I did kind of skim the transcript this morning because I saw people talking about it and was curious. And, I have a lot of complicated feelings about the whole thing.
First of all, though, I say this with love to all the Blaine and Darren fans out there -- Kevin and Jenna are never going to be able to be objective when doing this podcast. I keep thinking about all the other rewatch podcasts I listen to, and how all of them - even when discussing things that were hard to go through and/or things that weren't that great with the show - have a level of decorum that Kevin and Jenna just do not have. I do not know why they began this podcast, but digging into the show on a media analysis level just is not where their talents lie.
(Also, I don't think they love Glee the way those other podcasters genuinely love their show and that just colors how they see things. I'll get more into this in a moment...)
And I get that it's frustrating. Believe me, I do. There are plenty of Kurt things they do not talk about that drive me nuts. But at the same time, I feel like the 'recaps' have boiled down to praising Naya, Amber, and themselves; commentating on whatever BTS stuff comes up, and discussing shit on TikTok. I'm not sure why they're even bothering with the 'recaps', tbh.
But guys - if this podcast is upsetting you, if you're finding yourself this anxious or mad or whatever -- it's time to stop. They're not going to change how they do things, and at this point, I'm not entirely sure what you're waiting for from them? Maybe it's time to stop hate listening <3 <3
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As for the acting out -- I think a lot of the cast probably did. I'm sure Lea was a terror to work with at times. I'm sure Mark probably wasn't easy either. I know Naya spoke up on a lot of things -- though the producers didn't take as much issue with her until the Season 5 drama. Chris was pretty vocal about choices with his character. I can imagine Amber being just as frustrated with Mercedes' lack of anything to do. Didn't Heather say she kept it all inward? And what about Diana who really seems to not ever want to talk about Glee again?
So - who knows what acting out means, tbh.
Keeping all of this in context -- this cast was very tired by the time Season 3 came around. There were too many characters to service, they keep adding ones in, and they were all very young. (And for those of you who are experiencing your early 20s right now? I hate to say this to you -- but you are all still very young.) Added on the fact that the producers clearly did not understand their mental health needs (as evident about how apologetic Ryan Murphy seems to be about all of it) you get a lot of young people expressing their frustration in a lot of different ways over a lot of different things.
I think that Jenna has some very, very complicated feelings about the show -- and in particular about this era because this is where she had a rather big break down. You know what, I do feel for her, because I can see where she's coming from. I can't imagine - feeling like you're tied to a job where everyone around you seems to be getting a better deal than you, and you're trying to be the nice one, and eventually, holding all of that inwardly will make you crack. I'm glad she went to therapy. I kinda hope she's still going to therapy because it seems as though a lot of this is still bothering her.
And I don't really think that Darren, specifically, is ultimately what led to Jenna's breakdown. I think it was a lot of things compounding on each other and Darren on Broadway might have been the last straw that caused her to crack.
I will say (again with all the love to Darren, I adore the guy) there was underground talk that when Darren first got there - he didn't exactly handle his newfound fame in the most eloquent of ways -- in that he was a little on the pompous side. But again, that was age, and by the time Season 4 came around, by all accounts that I came across, he was friends with everyone.
That said - none of this is Darren's fault. It's not Darren's fault that Ryan Murphy handled his young cast and their mental health very badly. It's not Darren's fault that he jumped on opportunities when they arose. It's not Darren's fault that through his natural talents Blaine became a way more popular character than half the original cast. And it's not Darren's fault that Jenna has her own shit to deal with.
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So, yeah...
I guess those are my thoughts.
And I'm still here enjoying Kurt, Blaine, Chris, and Darren -- and believe it or not, a lot of the show in general. And I don't really listen to Kevin and Jenna's podcast anymore because they just don't care about the things I do -- and that's fine.
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metabolizemotions · 3 months ago
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Maybe Station 19 was like an experimental cubist painting.
There were too many stories to be told and too many people trying to tell them, from too many perspectives, with too many styles…
Each viewer saw a different picture.
It was the show that tried to capture the zeitgeist and represent the under-represented. Also the show that often struggled. With the tones and textures. With representing w/o tokenizing. B/w laughing with and laughing at. B/w realism and romanticizing. B/w deliberate and arbitrary. B/w educating and entertaining. B/w what they consider profane and sacrosanct.
At times, it touched our hearts deeply. At times, it frustrated us to no end.
Not every story was given the respect, sensitivity and intricacy it was due.
One moment could lead to a profound understanding of an aspect of a lived life some of us had never known; while the next could be a moment that was beyond confounding - about an aspect of ourselves that made us feel slighted, diminished and even erased.
It had often been an exercise in empathy to find our common humanity at the intersectionality of stories. Yet, the scale of empathy often skewed too far in favor of some characters with the differing standards, narrative frames and plot armors. Ironically yet reasonably turning people off these very characters they wanted people to root for. A persistent dissonance and disconnect.
But it was also the show that didn’t shy away from the ugly, the raw, the uncomfortable and messy parts of our shared human experience. The tribulations of oppression. The perils of ambition. The tests of morality. The trials of friendship and love. That we would make mistakes, but we could also make amends. That we're not defined by our worst. That our best lives could still be in front of us despite the current struggles. That sometimes life sucks but having your people with you makes it more bearable.
I would think it an interesting journey for the diversity of people behind, on, and in front of the screen. The evolving stories, evolving characters, evolving storytellers, an evolving fandom - all amidst an evolving media landscape.
It was probably not an easy show to make. The show had a bewilderingly lack of support from abc or shondaland. Diversity seemed to be both good for promotion (when there was any) and the reason for the prejudice against it.
Just as it had not been an easy show to watch - so biased, inconsistent and self-contradictory. Like when they kept telling us about the family spirit and deep friendships yet somehow spent more time showing otherwise. Or when the writing of systemic sexism was somehow inherently sexist.
Personally, I don’t think characters belong to the writers alone. Besides the usual constraints, the characters were often adjusted back and forth to fit the plots. We’ve also learnt how network execs' dislikes, writers’ personal experiences were factored into the stories. I fully respect the writers’ artistic rights. But actors who embodied the characters for years have a unique understanding too. Viewers also have their personal takes about what were true to characters. It's ok to agree to disagree.
There had been sparks of brilliance, but often extinguished too soon. It has been confounding how the greys-verse did not capitalise on its vast potential, esp. S19. Even while both shows share a show-runner. Grey's anatomy could have lent its scale while Station 19 could have injected renewed energy back into its mothership. Both shows could have been better for it.
Although the characters have the foundation of distinct and interesting backstories, their development often did not fully utilise the narrative potential and the talents of the cast. I’m sure the crew was also competent and hardworking. But somehow some elements b/w n within the shows seemed to just cancel each other out instead of amplifying their impact. IMO 704 and 709 were a few exceptions.
But I'll always be glad S19 existed and we got a S7. I believe they had tried their best to wrap up and give closure to everyone invested in the show. I truly appreciated the hard work given the circumstances even when I personally didn't agree with some takes.
In the end, I really do want to remember it as the show with heart, the show that made us laugh and cry and the show that tried. The show that's unique - in both its merits and flaws. I’ll definitely miss the characters. One last time - 19!
#rehashg some things seemed pointless#had this in my drafts for a while. lost momentum to go thru w it#catchg up on firenerds interviews#tags edited:#post sent accidentally b4 completion. deleted many of the original tags cos didn’t want to end this angry#but I think pp did made disingenuous bad faith arguments esp the disparity being imagined n was condescending#intention v execution v reactions often don’t align but I still think the framing and nuances matter#the fetishised yet censored transition being approved was worst than dg being unapologetically proud of realising his 13yo-self’s fantasy#then to hear pp say the cut w|w kisses obstructed the flow n were not integral to the scenes was worst when applied to this one#esp in contrast with the others’ in the montage and in the context of the episode#but anyway it is what it is even if I wished…#we had tonal appropriate buildups n payoffs of their own stories that didn’t decentralise them or just have wordless montages#n chs n relationships to have been more developed and consistent n not have so many gaps to leave imagination n nostalgia#the writing of some ch really didn’t speak to me or make me want to root for them but personally I would have wished to see that with vic n#n for them to interact more with maya n carina. they don’t have conflict of interest n I feel the queers would have been closer#travis n maya could have commiserate about their dads n their trauma. for maya career was triggering. travis it was his relationships.#maybe the interesting thing about the show is how your fav aspects might be s.o. else’s most hated. vice versa#this is such a conflicting show for me. one that I’m very invested in n would always have mixed feelings about.#I’ve missed the show n would continue to miss it. but really not those parts brought up again in the interview.#station 19 comments#station 19
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machidielontheway · 5 months ago
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Friend i saw and talked to on saturday has covid :((
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I wish that the holidays were over.
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notmoreflippingelves · 7 months ago
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So I know, I know, we all hate it when people add comments and especially lengthy ones to posts that are no openly encouraging them. Nevertheless, I'm gonna do so in this particular case because the novel that I was writing in the tags just got too too long and I was frighteningly close to the tag limit.
The things that would fix Esteban Flores are (in roughly this order)
A found family (preferably one totally divorced from connections to his bio family) and/or a small child to take care of.
A heartfelt apology from his biological family (definitely Luisa, probably Elena, and maybe Francisco as well).
A hug x1000
Being shaken
Enough sleep
But most especially the first two.
Esteban's issues stem from being made to feel like an afterthought and/or an obligation to his family of origin. In his mind, he was not chosen or wanted. He was liked, loved even--but he was loved because he was familia--not because he was Esteban. He was not enough in and of himself, especially not when compared to Elena.
Do you know why he continued to tend the cacao trees during the Dark Times? Yes, it was out of love for his family, but I think there's a bit more to it than that. His abuela shared something private and meaningful (i.e. how to take care of the cacao trees) with him that she didn't also share with Elena. He was welcomed into Luisa's world--if only for a moment. This was his, the rare thing that he didn't have to sacrifice to or share with Elena. No one could take this away from him--the moment of feeling seen and chosen. Not even the fact that this moment was very very much an anomaly and the rest of his youth (and his adulthood) consisted of him being shoved into the corner of some family portraits and left out of others entirely---and no one noticing this for years.
In "Something I Would Never Do," Esteban outright states "Years ago/ I did not know/Just how much they cared for me." He's just now realizing after 40+ years that his family just might love him (50+ years if you go back to when Esteban moved into palace); he's genuinely surprised about it and terrified that he's going to fuck it all up. Yes, Esteban has atrocious self-esteem, but these impressions did not come from nothing. Even now, his family keeps him largely at arm's length. He doesn't appear (or isn't even mentioned) in the two family vacation episodes, suggesting he was left behind. His Navidad plans (the ones he has been dreaming of , all alone for 41 years!) are rejected outright by Luisa, and no one even bothers to ask what the Dark Times were like or how he is coping. Everything has changed and yet nothing has changed. He's there, sometimes he is shown attention and affection, but he's still made to feel that he's not really a part of the family in the same way the others were.
All this is pretty bad in and of itself, but it's made worse by the fact that he's not getting his emotional needs fulfilled from outside the family any more than he is within it. As far as we can tell, Esteban's only real friends as a child were Elena and Victor. (Maybe Felicia as well, but she was far more Elena's friend than his). And neither Victor nor Elena could give Esteban what he needed: the feeling of being liked and chosen for himself and that alone.
Elena is family--the same family has made Esteban feel like an afterthought and obligation, merely liked at best and tolerated at worst. But that's oversimplifying things. Elena is also the impossible gold standard that Esteban will always be measuring himself against. (And it's especially galling that she was 1-2 years younger than him, and he was still nowhere near her level). She's the favorite (and Luisa is not subtle about hiding that fact), the priority, the important one. She's the one who has always been and will always be secure in power and confidence and their familia's love--the exact opposite of Esteban.
Victor, meanwhile, was a horrible influence on Esteban, and not just where Shuriki was concerned. His selfishness rubbed off on his amigo, and his competitiveness and callousness brought out every one of Esteban's insecurities and worst tendencies. It's also very strongly implied that their friendship (at least on Victor's side) was rooted in how 'useful' Esteban was. Through El Segundo, Victor got closer to power/the crown and also found someone that he could feel "superior" to. Someone that Victor could consistently beat at races, so that he could feel like a winner. Someone who wouldn't tell Victor to go to hell if he subjected unflattering nicknames upon.
So yeah, Esteban's childhood primary source of affection/attention outside his family were two people who exacerbated Esteban's already huge inferiority complex. One of whom was part of said family that enabled said inferiority complex in the first place, and the other of whom is wrapped up in the event that caused Esteban to lose his family as well.
And then, Elena was trapped in the amulet and Victor was banished from Avalor, and Esteban was without anyone at all for 41 years. His primary source of attention and affection during this time was the woman who conquered his kingdom and took away his family. Someone who had preyed upon his vulnerabilities from the very start and who kept him alive only so long as he remains obedient and "useful" to her. There's nothing even remotely close to equal or mutual about this dynamic, and Shuriki did even more damage on Esteban's already battered psyche than all of the others combined and multiplied by ten.
Even after Shuriki is gone, Esteban still doesn't have anyone in his life that voluntarily chose to be in his life. His entire social circle is comprised of people that he knows through his family and/or his role as chancellor (and later his magical abilities). There's Naomi, except there isn't, because their dynamic is rooted exclusively in their shared devotion to Elena and their roles on the Grand Council (which is also directly tied to Elena).
Similarly, Doña Paloma interacts with Esteban almost exclusively in reference to his role as Chancellor. Would she give him the time of day if he had no political power or influence?. Doubtful, especially as she seems to really dislike him most of the time. There's a bit more potential for a genuine friendship to develop with Julio or Professor Mendoza, but again, these connections were formed through Esteban's job and we don't really see any interactions that aren't in service to that.
Higgins is explicitly Esteban's employee and given how insensitive he can be to Esteban, it seems unlikely that he has any real non-professional loyalty or affection to him. Same with Armando, except things do seem to a bit more cordial between them.
Esteban seems to have a good rapport with Avalor's allies, especially Toshi and Shoji, but these are unlikely to be anything more than friendly diplomatic connections and ones separated by distance.
So yeah, my boy literally does not interact with a single character on the show without at least one of them doing so out of obligation/duty/job requirement and/or ulterior motive. Fifty years later and almost nothing has changed, Esteban still has nothing and no one to call his own.
#esteban flores#elena of avalor#honestly it pisses me off that esteban never met chloe and barely interacted w/ valentina#because he has a lot in common with them#(and yeah it's not exactly ideal since these friendships too would be connected to job and family)#but still...there are things about chloe and valentina that elena just can't fully understand but esteban can#elena does not know what it feels like to grow up in elena castillo flores' shadow; but esteban DOES and valentina is doing it right now#unlike chloe and esteban; elena has always been popular and made friends easily; she doesn't know how hard it can be#how it can feel like you're doing everything wrong or even if you're doing everything right and its still not working out the way you want#and second-guessing whether people only want to spend time w/ you because you are royal and therefore useful#and elena's friends genuinely like her for her--and not her role#there's a whole dang AU episode in which she and the amigos find and choose each other w/o her having been the princess#whereas with chloe (pre-maliga at least) and esteban; there's always gonna be that doubt that elena never had.#'do you like me for me or for what I can give you? will you still like me when i inevitably disappoint you?'#reason no.1000 that elena of avalor should've gotten an s4: so esteban could make an actual friend and/or get an s.o.#preferably one who has no idea at first of who he is and who he's connected to#so that esteban knows that he himself is what the friend/lover finds interesting and not his power/connection#i mean don't get me wrong; i am still gonna ship him with elena and victor and naomi but can't help but feel like he deserves better#doña paloma is my notp and while i've seen him shipped with chatana and prof mendoza before and like it well enough#there's almost nothing in canon to work with#maybe one of the agama brothers? but we see so little of them tbh#i'm guessing that this is why he gets shipped with OCs so often#the 'right' partner with whom he could have a truly healthy; healing and sustaining relationship doesn't exist in canon#and all the most interesting esteban ships aren't necessarily healthy#since they are with people who either have already fucked esteban up or who aren't interested/qualified in helping him heal#am intrigued by esteban/ivy tho so i may have to rewatch stf soonish and evaluate further
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futurefind · 1 year ago
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“  i’m not used to letting people close. i don’t like being vulnerable— but i want to, with you. i want to let you in.  ” reabeau <:3c
idk which one but always accepting <:3c // @gottgenug
She wants to cry. Wants to kiss him and bury him in blankets and food and comfort until he's forgotten anything else could ever exist.
She thinks how unfair, that someone as kind and good as Beau has had to deal with such things. People may only be as solid as memories and yesterdays, but even if he could never stay the same as they were back in school, he at least deserved better.
"I know."
Still, she smiles, squeezing his hands so tight her own ache. Kisses their backs, and then his palms, and loosely tucks them against her cheeks; pulls away her own to cup his face in her gloved hands, fingertips raking against his scalp. Kisses him, feather-light, before peppering more to either cheek, the corner of his eyes, before finally pressing one firm and warm to his forehead.
Pulls away, rests her forehead against his, smiling wider despite the tears she allows to leak into her eyes. Kisses him, again.
"I know," she repeats, nuzzling into him, dragging in a heavy breath past the pain in her heart.
"It's okay. I'm here. I'm here, and you can take all the time you need, okay? I'm not going anywhere."
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I'm sorry, is all the back of her mind can scream, raging with hypocrisy. Thinks of basements and blood and Bulga, recuperating alone. Always, always alone—
Always dancing and pulling and distracting him from how she hasn't let him in, not really. How all he knows is facsimiles of better days and the cracks that they all share, now, rather than any that are uniquely hers.
Thinks of the gloves between her touch and his face and how, even now, even with this and all her platitudes, she's not really giving him what he wants. What he's asking for.
What he's all but begging for, despite how she's cried and ached and screamed for all these years to not be alone. All these years, all this love, and...
You deserve better.
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seungkwanniee · 13 days ago
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pairings : boyfriend!seventeen x gn!reader
genre : fluffyy, lil angst
warnings : mention of food , half naked body (joshua) , cuss word (jun)
synopsis : seventeen coaxing their s.o. after making you upset before bed time
hyung line ,, maknae line [soon]
an : this is a request from anon, hope you'll like it ! sorry if this took awhile but school is giving me hard time that at the end of the day im not in the mood to write smt. I decided to separate hyung and maknae line so I could post more quickly to feed yall. ALSO as a directioner im DEVASTED these days so yeah that wasn't the best timing so start writing again, this also didn't let me to keep up with svt comeback shedule 😭
〔masterlist〕
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SCOUPS 』
i think that seungcheol doesn't have an high pride at all, so it's pretty easy tho
and, come on, he is Choi Seungcheol how you can even resist to him
when after a long day and he finally comes back home he is straight coming up to you
even if you leave the spot immediatly, he will follow you around pouting
but your plans of ignoring him doesn't end well
you heart flutter by just hearing his voice because you are too in love with him
and when a smile accidentally slips out of your mouth, its when he knows you are all his
he picks you up, unconfortably laying you on his shoulders and walks into your shared room
roughly dropping you on the bed laying next to you asap
i know he has a thing for you hair, so he plays with it a lot
wrapping around his finger, smelling them and softly kissing them
has a BIG thing also for your neck so he never let it breath
JEONGHAN 』
he is not taking seriously any argouments and this makes you only angrier
but he really enjoy seeing you angry so anyway it doesn't matter to him
but when he thought he had enough for the day, he transform into a baby
he is following you around the house trying to cling into your side
and when you lay on the bed because it was almost midnight he find the best ways to cling you
he would immediatly hug you so tight without mincing words
KISSES ON YOUR NECK UUGH
driving you so insane with his angelic and innocent face
and his sooo cute voice saying 'sorry' nonstop
when you can't hold your smile in anymore, he is giggling uncotrollably still kissing you
JOSHUA 』
you two had a pretty bad argoument before dinner time because he is way too gentlemen with other women
so you just decided that he doesn't deserve your presence
you prepared your plate of food and insted of take a sit at the table, you walk straight into your room
hoping that he got the message and he will not sleep into the same bed as you
but after about an hour, when you finished your food and were already laying comfortably under your sheet, you hear a door opening
and who if not Joshua?
he doesn't care at all about your annoyed huffing, he is laying under the sheet beside you
and his goal is cuddling you until you fall asleep
you protest when you feel his arm wrapping your waist but his arms are just way stronger
he pull you closer to him as much as he can, he needs to feel you
when your back touches his naked chest, you can't do anything but relax under his touch
his breath against your hair brings so much comfort into you
he traces your arm with his finger until he hears your cute sleepy sounds
JUN 』
it's really rare that Jun is the one making the frist step after an argoument
he is really shy and he just feels so guitly that he made you mad
his precious baby ?!?!
he is usually awkward, the he will NEVER starts a cuddling session
so when you two have an argoument youre always the one that does the frist step
but today he made you way too angry and he can see it by the way you're not even trying to get closer to him
he wants to cry soo bad because he doesn't know what to do, he is worried that every move he will do is wrong
when the second night pass, and youre preparing to sleep on the chouch once again, he understands that he need to move the fuck up
he is in your shared room, where you were supposted to be with him, under the sheet cuddling nonstop
he nervously walks up and down wondering how to approach you in the best way possible
but it's easier than the tought
when he sits beside you on the couch, you were already all over him
because OMG THIS SHY CAT IS SO BRAVE
he is like 'oh, it was that easy?'
pinching your cheeks and nose kissing because he is starving
HOSHI 』
he absolutely hate making you upset but here we go
at frist he don't even got it, he just continue with his stupid jokes and mess around you
he always do this, like almost everyday, but today he touched a button that should've not been touched
he just frowns when he sees you walking awayt without daring a word
and he is like that for at least 30 minutes, you can almost hear the hamsters into his brain
he may need an help too, so he is on his way calling his best friend
and this sounds so stupid to him but hey he needs help with his beloved
bestfriend will 100% facepalming because it seems so obvious to him
but hoshi arrives here a little late
after he got what he did wrong he is RUNNING to you, jumping straight into your body
he lays on top of you kissing every part of your skin that isn't covered with blanket
also he would gently rub his nose against yours
kissing you under the blanket
WONWOO 』
he may seem awkward but this man is a reader so...
he exactly knows what to do and when to act out
he approaches you slowly, he frist want to know if he will get a slap from you or not
and if you seem way more calmer, he is cooking something sweet
looking cute in his apron and his black glasses falling down his nose bridge once in a while
he may not be the best at cooking but It's the thought that counts
and when his shiluette walks through the door with the sweet smell of pancake no shit
YOU ARE ALREADY ON HIS KNEES
he even forgot to take off the apron that hugs his waist
and his glasses getting fogged up because of the plate under is nose
he is way too cute, i want to cry
you dont even think about be cold to him when he lays under the blanket a little too far from you
you love his effort and his attention that he doesn't even need to cuddle you frist, you are the one starting the session
WOOZI 』
oh shit, did you have an argument? well forgot about him coming to you
man has a reaaally high pride, he must done it biiiig if he is the one approaching you after
thats why he is now complaining if sit by your side or just continue staring at your side profile
his eyebrows frown only makes his face looking cuter
i think he prefer think about a thing a hundred times before acting
and you can tell he is thinking a lot now
he is a man of words rather that physical touch, so he starts to talk to you after sitting beside you on the couch
and when all is cleared he surpirse you even more by clinging by your side
intertwine your arms and lay his head on yours
while his thumb slowly caress your hand and wrist
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spaceorphan18 · 8 months ago
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Also interesting. I think Come What May is visually stunning, and one of the most beautiful things they did on the show. Plus, bonus insight to how deeply Kurt loves Blaine.
But Somebody Loves You is a song I listen to more way more often - it's fun and bouncy and sweet and also a commentary on how much they love each other.
Klaine Duets Tournament - Semifinals, Match 2
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flintmirandas · 2 years ago
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okay honestly it would’ve gone so hard if bill hadn’t died with frank, if he’d been forced to keep living and find a new purpose, let new people into his life and let go of that isolationist mindset
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spaceorphan18 · 2 years ago
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And Here's What You Really Missed: Chris Colfer Edition
Okay - so, I won’t normally do a podcast recap this long - but I really wanted to be thorough because this was the interview with Chris.  The indentations are the recap portion.  Anything in brackets are my personal thoughts - in case you want to skip over that.  I tried to do as little editorializing in the recap portion as I could.  
-Snixxmas is Back
-Kevin and Jenna’s intro - still consider Chris a bestie, and like with the Ryan convo - they’re glad they’re able to have such honest and open conversations with their guests.  
[I think, so far, with both Ryan and Chris, these conversations are incredibly more honest than I’d expect? It does feel like friends remembering things, and not like a PR/soundbyte kind of convo.  I think it’s incredibly refreshing, and -- while I haven’t been shocked by anything, I feel like I have context and clarification to a lot of things that were rumors and speculations of fandom.]
-Jenna wanted to skip right into a deeper conversation - skipping the usual convo surrounding Chris, where he talks about his audition and how RM created a part for him.  Chris joked about who he should send the therapy bill to -- Kevin said RM Productions. 
[Interestingly - one of the things we don’t get clarification on in this podcast is how Chris feels towards RM at this time.  I don’t think it was specifically avoided, I think it didn’t organically come up.  Who knows? But I’m sure Chris will be back on in future podcasts.] 
-Kevin asks about how he got the audition - especially since the rest of them had industry connections, and Chris had zero connections.  Chris replies that a family friend knew an agent in LA, and he began doing auditions when he was a Freshman in HS.  (Retells how he got turned down for a part in That’s So Raven.) Chris recounts that his parents were very supportive - and jokes that he didn’t have a social life, so the three hour drives from Fresno to LA weren’t that big a deal. 
-Chris recounts that moving to LA and being thrown in at such a young age (he was 18 - just out of HS) was a shocking experience.  He was starstruck by even his costars - Kevin having been in a band, Jenna in Spring Awakening. 
-Chris told his parents that they would not be coming to LA with him.  Partly because he didn’t want people to think he had stage parents.  Partly because he wanted to be out on his own. 
-Chris and Jenna spent nearly every day together while filming the Pilot since they were the two from out of town.  Stayed at the Grove and watched movies every night and spent a lot of time at the cheesecake factory. 
-Jenna asks if Chris always knew he wanted to be both an actor and a writer, or if those ambitions came at different times.  Chris says that they were always the same thing to him, and it wasn’t until he was older that he figured out there was a difference between acting and writing.  But he’s always wanted to do both. Kevin jokes that it took him until being a teenager to figure out they were different jobs, and jokes that Chris has always been more advanced than him. 
-Jenna remembers Chris writing his own pilot for Kurt - incase the show didn’t get picked up.  (They mention that Chris, Jenna, Kevin, and Amber hung out a lot in the early days -- they called those nights ‘Jack’ nights -- Jenna, Amber, Chris, and Kevin’.) It was then she realized just how talented Chris was. Kevin says he doesn’t remember that pilot - even though Chris said he wrote it at Kevin’s place.  Kevin carefully admits that oftentimes they ‘partying’ while hanging out - and often under the influence of alcohol.  
[Later - they’ll bring up Glee feeling like college - and it’s something I’ve always thought about when considering these kids at this age.  All of this part of the reminiscing reminds me of my own college days - I was never a big partier or big with alcohol, but there’s something about that age where you just try things -- especially when you’re in the safety of your own home and with people you trust.  Everything about their experiences screams college…] 
-Kevin goes into how he and Chris auditioned at the same time, and rode up in the same elevator.  Kevin was trying to go into the audition process with a friendlier attitude -- was super nice with Chris when they met, and helped him navigate the audition process.  Was still like ‘you’ve got to be kidding me’ when he saw that Chris had the same Artie/Rajeesh sides as him. Kevin genuinely thought Chris was incredibly nice and friendly -- and after figuring out that Chris was going in for a different part of ‘Kurt’ Kevin felt they could be actual friends. 
-Chris jokes that taking out Rajeesh wouldn’t fly today - ‘them taking out a POC to put my pasty ass in’.  
[To anyone who doesn’t know -- there was an original character named Rajeesh in the script, who essentially had all of the lines that went to Kurt.  Rajeesh (I don’t think) wasn’t a gay character - weird to think that the only gay character in the original script was Sandy…]
-Jenna jokes that out of the three of them, only she would be cast today since Kevin wouldn’t be cast as a kid in a wheelchair. 
-Chris was driving back to Clovis after the audition when they got the call that he was cast.  His mom had to pull over because they were screaming they were so excited. Chris had a gut feeling that this pilot would be picked up and this would be his thing.  Kevin felt the same way about it. Lea has a (secret) showing of the pilot -- and they had a discussion as to whether or not the pilot would be picked up.  It never crossed Kevin’s mind that it wouldn’t because he liked the show so much and because they all had a blast together.  Chris mentions that it was the first time that he had seen a show about kids just like him - every theater kid in the world was going to love the show.  
[I’m super curious about that… I know, though, being a theater/band/music/fine arts kid, it did speak to me even if I was an adult by the time it aired.]
-Jenna asks what it was like, at the stage of doing the pilot, what it was like playing a gay character when he wasn’t out at the time.  Chris says, while his hometown has come very far since then (2008), it was dangerous for people to be out at the time - there was even a kid who had gotten stabbed for being out.  It wasn’t until he got the script that he knew Kurt was the gay character and he was absolutely terrified.  He had a family member (not his parents - who were supportive) ask if he really wanted to do this - because it would ruin his life to do this.  He wanted to be a part of the industry and out of Clovis so badly that he felt like he no other option.  He also knew it would force him to ask questions of himself that he hadn’t been ready to do. He’s grateful, in a way, that he was thrust into it - because it forced him to come to terms with himself. 
-[Like RM], Chris was also told by people within the industry that playing a gay character would ruin his character, but he reiterates that he felt it was something he had to do. 
[I feel like there’s a bigger conversation to be had about how much the times have changed even in the last ten years.  You couldn’t be out when I was a teen in the late 90s.  RM’s world was even worse.  I think Glee feels somewhat dated now - but omg, was it a huge deal back in the day… the positive response to the gay characters left a footprint… anyway… ] 
-Kevin asks Chris if it felt like a judgment on him that they wrote this character for him who was gay.  Chris responds ‘oh absolutely’. They joke that they all just assumed Chris was gay, but they were also right (they have a good laugh over it.) Chris jokes that he was much more effeminate when he was younger and that now life has hardened him so he’s less so. 
[Another interesting observation - as even in early interviews, I don’t think Chris has ever seemed as effeminate as Kurt -- and interestingly, Kurt became less effeminate as time went on -- if I had to guess as I’ve talked about other places, though, Kurt was much more the RM mold in the beginning and Chris’s influence throughout the years made him less so even by season 2.]
-Chris admits that he was called ‘faggot’ every day during HS, and that he just couldn’t hide his sexuality.  But he wasn’t ready to have the conversation with himself or with anyone he knew about if he was actually gay or not. He says it’s interesting to reflect about it -- since the world has come so far, and since he’s come so far [being comfortable with his sexuality] that it’s hard to remember what it was like back then.  But he was so excited about getting a job that that took ultimate precedence.  
-They kind of shift into the conversation about having the best time at the beginning - doing the show and having fun.  They’d have all done it for free.  Jenna remembers Chris being so enamored of her being in Spring Awakening that it made her appreciate where she had come from more.  She also says she was aware of how young and naive he was - being thrust into the industry that she felt very protective of him.  Kevin says they all felt that way, and Chris says that he was the baby brother of the group. 
-The talk about the first times they all used to hang out -- at Kevin and Jenna’s place back when they did the front 13.  Kevin recounts a time when Amber leaned out the window to smoke - because it was very high up, but also he was aghast for her voice.  
-Kevin asking if Jenna had the same experience on Spring Awakening as they did with Glee -- since this was the first time Kevin had been a part of a cast like this.  Jenna says Glee was different - especially in the beginning because they moved from outside LA -- their world was Glee.  She did encounter some of the young drama with SA - but Glee was a new experience, especially since she wasn’t a part of the original cast of SA.  
-Kevin asks Chris if this was the first time he had a core group of friends that he ever did anything with.  Chris essentially says yes -- he was a goody-two shoes in HS that this was the first time he was experiencing normal college aged shenanigans.  Chris jokes that he was never invited to the parties back in HS - Kevin (kindly) says they didn’t know what they were missing.  Chris jokes that they weren’t interested in the European history lectures he’d often dish out and Kevin sweetly says that they were there for it.  Chris continues to say that he didn’t have a lot of friends growing up - some when he was younger and doing community theater but not in HS. Chris goes on to state (again) that he was close to the lunch ladies and teachers and that the Glee kids were his first group of close friends his own age.  
-Jenna teases that she’s sorry about that. And Chris states that it explains a lot about him that they made an impactful imprint on him.  Kevin jokes that they all have residual trauma. 
[And this is the part that makes my dead heart swell a bit - you can kind of tell that Chris isn’t bffs with Kevin and Jenna as in they spend every waking moment with each other -- but they are a family from this shared experience and that they do truly all care about one another.] 
-Kevin suddenly remembers the fact that Chris would have night terrors when they all would crash at someone’s place.  Chris laughs about it - stating he still has them, but not as bad.  The night terrors used to freak out Kevin and he’d console Chris back to sleep ‘it’s just the Jaeger’ (lol).  
-Kevin turns the conversation to how he and Chris used to use instant messenger to talk with each other - specifically about being gay (they joke about how back then chat rooms were the only safe place to come out to people).  And that they confided in each other pretty early about both being gay. 
[This where the conversation takes a fascinating turn - and then Jenna interrupts to tell a story about how adamant Chris was to find a washer and dryer in his first apartment - it was his one criteria for finding a place. And then it goes into Chris’s fears about laundromats - and he talks about his first job at a dry cleaners.  And as cute a story as it is - I was like, omg, let’s get back to talking gossip about Kevin and Chris.  Jenna, though, to her credit, does bring it back.] 
-Kevin says that they didn’t outrightly come out to each other, but slowly unraveled their experience levels in dating men.  Kevin talks about having a close friend from HS being a confidant as to being gay - and Kevin wanted to give Chris a safe place to talk about such things if he needed to.  Kevin goes on to say, though, that the four of them (Kevin, Jenna, Amber, and Chris) were close enough anyway that it sort of all came out between them.  
[Little bit of fandom lore injection - even before Kevin came out publicly, it was often rumored that Kevin and Chris had a fling - and when Kevin did come out - I have to wonder if some of those people I used to get info from (yes there was a deep network of people who did have connections to the cast/crew/industry/etc) were well aware that Kevin was gay.  You can also tell -- if you’re able to go way back and watch the super early interviews bbChris felt comfortable with Amber and Kevin more than anyone else.  After the pilot (and that mall tour) stuff, Kevin and Chris were somewhat split up -- Kevin going with the guys and Chris often paired with Amber for PR stuff, but it’s interesting what you can pick up on after watching a thousand interviews -- which I did when I first entered fandom.
Fwiw - based on this conversation, I don’t think Kevin and Chris hooked up.]
-Jenna goes on to admit her crush on Kevin, and talks about the time Chris put a picture of Kevin in her underwear drawer.  (Chris reminds them that he was indeed the little brother.) 
-Jenna asks about what it was like when Preggers came out - and if Chris felt supported putting the story line of Kurt coming out - out there.  Chris honestly says that, beyond the group of them, there wasn’t a whole lot of support for him in the industry.   Chris talks about the kid from Heartstopper who recently was forced out of the closet - and wanted to send him a note saying he understood how he felt because it happened to him and because it’s such a unique situation (but ultimately didn’t because he didn’t want to be weird about it.) 
-Chris states that coming out is one of the best decisions he’s ever made for himself, and says that he thinks it’s good for people to do so -- but he is also realistic in understanding that sometimes coming out puts your career and safety at risk, and pushing someone out is a terrible thing. He notes, though, how much support the kid from Heartstopper has gotten - and it’s proof that society has come a long way from when he went through it.  
-He notes that when he was pushed out - people telling him that he deserved it, that it was obvious, and that he should have known what he was getting into (which Kevin and Jenna agree was a horrible thing.) Chris also says he wasn’t ashamed of anything when he did come out - but he also didn’t have enough experiences to know what he was - and wanted to have those experiences before he labeled himself. 
-Chris talks about that even while Glee was airing - he would get called a ‘faggot’ by casting directors and other producers at auditions he went on.  He says if that happened now, thankfully, people would be getting their pitchforks out.  
[Note how this is similar to Ryan’s stories from earlier podcasts? Hollywood has some deep embedded homophobia in it -- still I’m sure.]
-Kevin goes on to talk about Chris’s public coming out on Chelsea Handler 
[Fandom lore interjection -- when I first heard the story about this, I had read/or was told that Naya and Cory went to the Chelsea Handler set to support him because it was planned that he was going to come out.  People recently have been telling me it was Naya and Kevin.  But based on Kevin’s memory and reaction - I don’t know if that’s true, and wonder if my original understanding of it was that Cory was there and not Kevin.  Not relevant - just thinking out loud about old fandom stuff.  
-Chris goes on to talk about how as PR move to stay in front of the story, he planned to officially come out publicly on Chelsea Handler.  He goes on to say that a publication during the first season [omg i think I remember this tbh] published without confirming that Chris was out. He had not come out to himself or his parents at that point and was terrified.  He was also terrified that people would think he was Kurt - and not realize that he was acting.  Then later, he would somewhat dodge the question when asked and people would get furious at him over it.  Eventually, he wanted to take control of it and went on Chelsea Handler to set things straight. 
-’I would rather be the unicorn than the elephant in the room’- Chris Colfer (Let’s get that on a throw pillow) 
[Just need to interject about Chris being adamant that people did not think he was Kurt.  Beyond the discussion over being gay, Chris and having his own individuality has always been important to him, and part of the issue arising from the whole Klaine phenomenon and the Tinhat issues is that those lines were blurred.  I’ll have more to say on all of this in a bit when Chris brings up Klaine in a little bit.]
-Kurt (and Chris coming out) was also getting a lot of positive response, too -- especially from young people going through the same thing.  It was a lot for Chris to shoulder.  Jenna asks about how heavy a burden it must have been to shoulder that responsibility.  Chris admits that in his personal life, he was having a very hard time navigating being a young man just coming out in an industry who thought less of him for it, but hearing people’s positive stories helped him through it.  
-Chris admits that in his youthful (I say naivety - he says arrogance) he felt like had to live up to the fantasy he was portraying on screen, trying to always be positive, which was often hard.  He was getting death threats - and then having to put on a smile and act fierce was difficult.  He says that he’ll probably write a memoir about all of it someday.  
-Suffered from agoraphobia for a while because of it -- Kevin and Jenna both remember.  Kevin remembers times when they went out and people were next level with Chris.  People would physically touch him, and Kevin comments on how he is possibly the most introverted of the cast members, so it was next level invasive for him.  Kevin continues - talking about how daily life changes, and more so for Chris and his recognizability - and how people felt like they had an ownership over him.  Chris went even more inward and found it suffocating.  Kevin and Jenna both felt protective over him - and Chris thanks them for that.  They mention going to Australia for the press tour, and feeling like they landed in a different world when they came back. 
-Kevin recounts how they went to a gay club (in Arizona) - Chris mentions he climbed the spiderweb (which I assume was some netting on the wall or something) and that they each had a boy they were interested in, but the boys went home with each other.  
-Jenna asks [a question I’ve been wondering myself, tbh] if Chris was resentful about Kevin’s situation - getting to stay in the closet because Artie was straight.  Chris admits, honestly, that he was -- not at Kevin, but at the situation, and that he had to be out and Kevin could remain private.  Chris comments on (at the time - I feel like this is key to this whole conversation, too, a lot of things have changed since then) how there was an underworld gay community that Chris couldn’t be a part of because he was so out and recognizable - but Kevin could be a part of cause he was closeted.  
-Chris talks about the fact that at the time, he was pulled out of pictures by publicists of other famous people because they didn’t want rumors to start about him with the other person.  
-Chris talks about not going on his first date until he was twenty. 
[Which not to knock on his hard times, cause they were very real, but I just think it’s a little funny, out of context, because there are plenty of people who don’t go on dates until they hit their twenties…] 
-Chris talks about his first real date being on the night of the grammys, and he missed the grammys purposely so he could go on it.  (It worked out - Chord could go on in his place.) 
[Just in case you wanted to know - it was Feb, 13th 2011.  Interestingly, Chris would meet his long term partner, Will, a year and a half later.]
-Kevin says at the time (I think he’s talking about post-Preggers? I’m not entirely sure about the timeline here) was the first time he felt any of the cast pull away -- and had to ask Amber if Chris was upset at him.  Amber explained that Chris was going through a lot, and Kevin felt better because that core friendship between the four of them was very important to him.  Kevin also admits that he wanted to give Chris space - because he knew he was representative of a lifestyle Chris couldn’t live at the time. 
-Kevin also admits of being slightly envious of him - because Chris was pushed to confront his sexuality, where Kevin just wasn’t ready to reconcile his personal life and his professional life yet. But when he saw what Chris was going through - decided it better to stay quiet about it. 
-Jenna makes [a fantastic] point where for a while she wondered if Kevin was going to ever be public with the knowledge but then reminds herself that it’s not for everyone to know - and that Kevin didn’t owe the media or the public anything.  But, for the sake of her friend, wanted him to be honest with himself about the situation.  
-Kevin also admits that there were some executives (whom he won’t name) of the show -- one telling him that it was his responsibility to come out (claiming that the secrecy of it is often fetishized (yeesh), the other telling him to never do it.  And he was often inwardly dealing with those conflicting thoughts.  
-Chris says that he, too, was told never to come out -- that he’ll never be cast in things if he says it, and should always play it as a mystery. He was told to have a fake girlfriend - which he figured no one would ever believe.  Kevin admits that Jenna was his fake girlfriend during the early years.  
[Also, not brought up here - but I remember Chris saying once that he’d never have female fans if he came out -- which is kind of hilarious as the teenage girls flocked to him]
-Jenna asks about Mike O’Malley - and Chris working with him.  Chris said it was a dream to work with him. He said while Klaine took off - he found Kurt and Burt’s relationship the more important one.  He’d have grown, straight men come to him in tears telling him how much that relationship meant to him because it helped them connect with their kids. Chris finds it the best part of the show.  Kevin and Jenna agree - saying that it was the heart of the show, more so than the high school relationships. 
-Chris was originally furious about the ending of Preggers - he wanted to have his Emmy moment. Kevin joked that he got to cry all the time [Fun fact - it was much less than you might think - I did a post on it!] Kevin said it gave him a complex as to how good Chris was at it. 
-Chris goes on to say that the stuff with Burt and Finn in Season 1 were more real - and that made him resent the stuff with Klaine being more fantasy/fairy tale like.  He goes on to say that gay people go through a lot in high school - and finding a soul mate at fifteen is not something a lot of people can resonate with.  
-Jenna comments that she wasn’t privy to a lot of the Klaine stuff, cause she wasn’t around, and neither she or Kevin got to work much with both Chris and Darren at the same time, but it occurs to her that it was very fairy tale like - and that it was probably RM’s fantastical version of high school.  
[She is right - I’m pretty sure Ryan had said so himself at some point.  The stuff about Chris and Klaine probably deserves its own post - I’m not going to dig deep here.  But mostly the tl:dr version is that A) I completely understand what Chris is saying, and why he felt the way he did -- and respect that he does feel that way.  B) The reason a lot of people did like Klaine was due to the fairy tale aspect of it. C) I think that we are past the point of using the ‘Chris hates Klaine’ blanket statement to justify whether or not liking Klaine is good or bad. D) I have a lot more thoughts on all of this - but will only bore y’all if you want to hear about it.]
-Kevin comes into say that Burt and Kurt and Klaine are fulfilling wishful relationships - the father/son dynamic you never get and the relationship in high school you never get.  
-Chris kinda laughs it all off, but stays a big quiet on all of it [which makes sense]
-Jenna changes the subject [which is abrupt - but I kind of wonder if it’s less about Chris wanting to change the subject, and more about their time running out and needing to plug Chris’s work before their time is up] to Chris’s writing.  Kevin says he makes them seem lazy.  They also joke that they text Chris and he often says he’s writing.  But they do bump into him out on the town from time to time.  Jenna goes on to congratulate Chris on his ten years of writing - and the sheer amount of work he’s written.  And Chris is currently writing number 19.  
-Kevin remembers how astounded he was that Chris wrote a full movie a year or two into Glee.  He also remembers that the rest of the cast was just doing nothing in particular, and Chris was busy writing his first book.  
-Jenna asks about when his stories started coming to him.  Chris goes into his spiel about Alex and Conner being a part of him from a young age - and how when he was younger he would always ask more about the fairy tale characters, etc.  His mom told him to start writing instead of asking her so many questions.  So he did.  He continues to talk about when his sister was sick he could use his writing as a way of escape.  He then talks about how when Glee was just heavy on him again, he used writing to escape again - and how The Land of Stories saved him twice. 
[Which… I get that kiddo, I really do.] 
-He then goes on to say that instead of doing a memoir - which he was approached to do, he asked to do TLOS instead.  Jenna continues to be blown away by his talent and prolificness.  Jenna says she can barely put on shoes and he’s written all of those books - though Chris jokes that he’s written them all barefoot.  Kevin then comes in saying that it’s impressive that Jenna made a human, and Chris agrees that it’s impressive that she did that.  Kevin says he’s the one that doesn’t have anything to show for anything.  Chris jokes that Jenna’s child will take care of her when she’s older - the books won’t do shit for him.  Though Jenna reminds him the checks will.  
-Kevin asks if Chris has a favorite song -- then amends it to least favorite.  [I’m slightly bummed - I would have loved to know what his favorite was.]  Chris starts out by saying that Umbrella was rough due to the technical aspects of it.  Also - Ben.  Because of all the songs out of MJ’s catalog - this is the one he’s singing to his lover.  The one about the rat.  
[Lol - omg, yeah…] 
-Jenna brings up Let’s Have a Kiki/Turkey Lurkey Time -- Chris [who has stated one of his favorite bands is Scissor Sisters] was so upset about that because he had worked for years to get the number on the show.  Kevin jokes that he’s the one sending RM hate mail (a call to the previous podcast where RM said he had no regrets over the number.) Chris said he had to go to the band and apologize for the number. 
-Chris then brings up Thriller being the worst one overall - that everyone hates the most.  He wasn’t there so he can’t fully say.  He was warm in his trailer watching The Parent Trap with Romy Rosemont and Dot Marie Jones.  [forever laughing at that]  Kevin and Jenna are jealous.  Kevin then mentions that there were pitfalls to suggesting songs - because he really wanted to do MJ - but that number was a nightmare to shoot.  
-Jenna says they’re recapping Showmance soon.  Chris says it’s better than the pilot [I agree - at least I think I agree - did I rank it higher? Lol]  They discuss Push It - and the outrageous things they had to do with each other.  Kevin remembers that they practiced it with varying degrees of sluttiness - and having to perform it for the crew early one morning - and how weird that was.  Chris brings up Jenna’s swamp hands?  Idk.  
-Last thing is talking about Chris’s Golden Globe win.  Jenna recounts watching Chris and how the color left his face.  Chris jokes that there wasn’t much color to begin with.  Kevin says he turned into Casper and you could see right through him.  They talk about how both Dianna and Ashley had to push him to go up on stage - he was so shocked.  Chris says he has no memory of it - it was an out of body experience.  He had gone through something similar at the Emmys - where he was projected to win and didn’t.  But then was told he wasn’t going to win the Globe and did.  
-His biggest thing about the Globes was how could he drink Champagne without getting caught cause he was only twenty at the time.  
-Jenna loves that at the end of his speech he said ‘screw that kids’ which was an amazing punctuation.  Chris has no idea where it came from, and while he’s glad his speech and debate training came in handy, he has no idea where the speech came from.  He also recounts screwing up a line - saying that the cast owe him, instead of them deserving the globe as well. Kevin was also worried for him - but knew he shouldn’t be, cause Chris is so quick witted.  Chris is just glad he didn’t shit his pants. Kevin was just in awe of one of his friends winning something.  Chris is glad the Globes are back, cause his award isn’t canceled anymore.  
-They end by saying they how grateful they are for Chris to come join them.  Chris says that they’ve always got his back, and is grateful they gave him a safe space to talk - and they all say that they love each other.  Kevin jokes by saying if he has any more night terrors, he can come on the podcast and air it.  
-They then joke about how Night Terrors would be a good name for a horror podcast.  They’ll have to rope in Amber and start a new podcast.  
[Okay, phew, that’s the podcast! Look - I really loved it.  Chris seemed to be relaxed and in good humor -- especially since a lot of this was about really heavy things.  You can tell there’s a solid foundation of friendship and respect between Chris, Kevin, and Jenna.  I’m sure this won’t be the only time we hear from him on the show.]
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hoshifighting · 3 months ago
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Hi!
I was wondering if you could write about seventeen showing off to their S.O. that they can unclip a bra with one hand? And them being really proud of it like it’s a super talent? 🤣
seventeen being cocky after unclipping a bra with one hand
seungcheol’s eyes lock onto yours. “easy,” he murmurs, almost like he’s challenging you to admit how impressed you are. he’s already leaning in, lips brushing your neck, one hand sliding the bra straps off your shoulders slowly, dragging it out just to feel you shiver.
jeonghan takes his time, making sure you know he’s enjoying every second of this. when the bra pops open, he pulls back just enough to catch your gaze, that wicked grin playing on his lips. “thought it’d be harder,” he teases, his tone almost lazy. but there’s nothing lazy about the way his hands are squeezing your tits, his touch just shy of too light, teasing you as much as he’s teasing himself.
joshua’s reaction is more subtle i think, but there’s no mistaking the flash of pride in his eyes “guess i’ve got a new skill to brag about,” he jokes, but there’s no denying the way his hands tighten on your waist, pulling you closer as he lets the fabric fall between you.
junhui has that devilish look, the one that says he’s just waiting for you to acknowledge how damn smooth he is. “told you i was good with my hands,” he practically purrs, fingers trailing down your spine. the way he says it makes it sound like he’s talking about more than just unhooking a bra, and the way his hands are already moving, you know he’s about to prove it.
soonyoung doesn’t even try to hide how proud he is. the second the clasp comes undone, he’s grinning like he just won the lottery. “look at that,” he says, voice full of boyish glee, “didn’t even break a sweat.”
wonwoo + a little smirk that tugs at his lips, the kind that tells you he’s pleased with himself. he doesn’t say much, just hums in pride, letting his hands roam free now that the barrier’s gone.
woozi is efficient, so when he manages to get it undone with one hand, there’s this tiny, almost imperceptible nod—like he’s mentally patting himself on the back.
minghao when the bra unclips, he gives you this knowing look, like he expected nothing less from himself.
mingyu is practically beaming “didn’t think i could do it, huh?” he shakes his eyebrows, his hands are already moving to pull you closer, fingers tracing over your newly exposed nipples, clearly enjoying the fact that there’s nothing between you now.
seokmin at the moment the clasp gives way, he’s grinning from ear to ear, that infectious smile lighting up his whole face. “nailed it bestie 😜” there’s something about the way he’s so genuinely happy that makes the moment even better.
seungkwan’s laughs, a little breathless, like he wasn’t sure he could actually pull it off. “i can’t believe that worked,” he admits, but there’s a proud glint in his eyes. he’s determined to make the most of his newfound skill—and i think that moments before he was searching for how to do it.
vernon “not bad, right?” he says casually, like he does this all the time—but this time it was just luck. on your first time he was clearly suffering with the tiny junction.
chan in the second he unhooks it, he’s grinning like a kid on christmas morning. “did you see that?” he asks, almost bouncing on the bed. his hands are already on you, eager to explore, like he can’t wait to see what else he can do.
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spaceorphan18 · 6 months ago
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Would you mind if I'm honest on this post? I've always felt my opinions piss people off, so I might as well lean into it. But please know this is coming from a place of respect @kurtsascot
First of all - I actually agree with you. One of the things I love about Klaine is that they're messy. They're growing up. They fuck up. They don't do the right thing. They feel real in a lot of ways because of that. I love Seasons 4-6 because there's so much more story to enjoy, so much more to pick a part.
Secondly - to somewhat contextualize some of the things I was saying in that BBO post. I think a lot of us did like story. And did like meta. There were /so/ many meta posts at the time, it was delicious. The problem was -- people would start to become defensive about their fav. And it got personal. And things got heated.
There were a lot of people out there who could see both sides. But when you've got an onslaught of people on the internet just shouting 'Blaine sucks he's a cheater' or 'Kurt's a cold bitch' all the time, it becomes harder to be more objective.
Thirdly - I think what makes me a little sad, today, is the discourse I see online doesn't allow for nuance. Unfortunately, I still see a lot of anti-Klaine/Blaine/(and even Kurt) push back for things I've seen for the past fifteen years. And it's a little -- haven't we done this already?
But also, I see a lot of anti-Klaine stuff, now, from people who don't want to dig into those messy stories. And one screw up has them shouting from the rooftops that Blaine is toxic and Kurt is problematic, etc, etc, etc.
I am a little sad, that in the larger glee fandom world these days, that Kurt and Blaine are talked about so poorly. Back then may have been miserable in a lot of ways -- but there were always a lot of passionate fans who did and said a lot of loving things. And I just don't see that as much these days. And it just bums me out a little -- because most of the passion isn't there anymore.
Believe me - I am so appreciative of you and others who've come in late and enjoyed these stories, and are happy to have fun with the characters and enjoy the story for what it is. Really, I do appreciate you guys! <3
Anyway, I'll get off my soapbox - thanks for the indulgence <3 <3
its actually so wild to me that back in the early glee times people were defending kurt/blaine and doing the better boyfriend olympics thing, picking a side, saying x was always right etc….. like. idk. maybe its just me, but i became attached to klaine because they are messy???? i want them to fight, i want them to be a mess- thats what is interesting to me?? that they love each other and keeping fucking it up but they cant stay away from each other and keep trying??? theres something inherently delicious and desperate about that.
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genshingorlsrevengeance · 4 months ago
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For our nikkes and then anyone else you want. How about an S.O. who lightly pins them to a wall (trying to be romantic/naughty), leaning in for a kiss, only to get flustered, chicken out at the last minute only to get reversed pinned and kissed themselves.
(Genshin Impact/GoV: NIKKE/GFL) Kabedon Reversal on their S/O
Genshin: Furina, Clorinde, Arlecchino, Lumine, Eula, Yae NIKKE: Rapi, Anis, Neon Girls' Frontline: AK-12, AK-15, M16A1
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Furina's voice is caught in her throat the moment S/O catch her in a corner, their arm extending and making sure she couldn't escape.
Her eyes dart left and right, looking anywhere but them.
Until their fingers tilt her chin upwards, making her shut her eyes and pucker her lips for a kiss, her heart beating in her chest.
...For a kiss that never came.
(Furina) "...S-S/O?"
One of her mismatched eyes slowly creep open, noticing that S/O's face was just as red as she felt.
A small smirk grows across her lips as she confidence comes surging back, quickly grabbing their waist and pushing them against the wall.
(Furina) "HA! Now the foot is on the other...u-uh...!"
And when she looks into their eyes, it vanishes just as quickly as it arrived.
No wonder S/O couldn't go through with this, it was nervewracking!
Both her and S/O are too shy to initiate the kiss, instead awkwardly standing at the wall and staring at each other.
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Clorinde is caught off guard for only a moment by S/O, her eyes slightly widening as S/O gently pushes her against the wall.
Her surprise is brief as she watches S/O shrink by the second, almost leaning in to presumably kiss her before they quickly back away, stammering an excuse.
(S/O) "S-Sorry, I was just...um...-"
Gracefully, Clorinde quickly switches place with them in one fluid motion, so fast that S/O didn't even realize what was happening at first.
And with a small smile to her lips, she presses it against S/O, both of them sharing a quick but passionate kiss.
Pulling away, her thumb brushes against S/O's cheek affectionately.
(Clorinde) "Not a bad attempt, S/O. But I think I've won this time.
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Arlecchino watches S/O's every step, knowing damn well that they were already too flustered to follow through.
But she wanted to know how far this could go, and she simply observes with little change to her expression.
(Arlecchino) "...Well?"
(S/O) "A-Ah...It's just that..."
First of all, S/O was shorter than she was, so it was amusing to Arlecchino that they even attempted this.
Secondly, she would not budge an inch until S/O committed, unblinking and watching them fidget.
S/O sighs and backs off, trying to hide their embarrassment from her.
It doesn't work.
(Arlecchino) "Allow me."
Without warning, Arlecchino pushes S/O against the wall as one arm rested next to their head and she leaned in with no hesitation.
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Lumine yelps when she feels S/O corner her into the wall, not knowing how to react.
But she quickly knows what to do the moment she sees just how flushed their cheeks are, a smirk slowly forming.
(Lumine) "Y'know, you're usually not supposed to be that nervous when you're doing it."
(S/O) "S-Stop teasing me!"
With a soft giggle, she simply taps one finger against her arm as she crosses it, waiting for S/O to make the move.
(Lumine) "Make me."
And seeing just how their body froze up from her response gave her all the time she needed to reverse this.
In one fell swoop, Lumine quickly swaps positions and smoothly kisses them in the span of a few seconds, feeling S/O freeze but then relax into her.
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Eula chuckles, seeing S/O hesitate to move in for the final motion.
(Eula) "Cold feet, S/O?"
(S/O) "I-I...No, of course not!-"
Her oath of vengeance goes unsaid but its understood between the two of them.
Because she only scoffs at their false confidence before her arm scoops their lower back, and she picks them up easily and has their back against the wall.
Nevermind the fact her own heart was pounding, but with this reversal she would at least be in control, Eula not resisting her urge to kiss them deeply.
If you were going to sweep someone off their feet, then she would have to show them how it's done.
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BIG MISTAKE.
Yae was pleasantly surprised that S/O would try something so bold.
Until they hesitated for even just a second, making Yae bare her fangs playfully.
(Yae) "Aww, aren't you so cute?"
And before S/O could even respond, she reverses the situation without breaking a sweat, one finger tracing their neck down to their shoulders.
(Yae) "If you wanted me to do this, you should've asked instead of doing it yourself!~"
Despite her teasing, S/O's attempt made her heart flutter. Now it was time for her to do the same thing, but with the correct amount of confidence needed.
S/O had a lot of bite marks on their neck after the fact.
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Rapi's eyes widen as S/O pushes her gently against the walls.
She was unsure of what to do in this situation, but judging by S/O's rapidly increasing vitals, they probably had no idea either.
Or rather, they lacked the confidence to continue.
With her own cores rapidly heating up, Rapi simply chuckles and lets her arms wrap around S/O, letting her forehead rest against S/O's to calm them down.
(Rapi) "Good try, S/O. Would you like some help?"
Someone close to her once said that she should be more assertive. What better way to do so than now?
Twirling in place, albeit slowly, she now had S/O in her previous position, and placing kisses on their lips, cheek, and forehead, hearing them laugh.
She was amazed at her own confidence, but she supposed having someone to love would do that to a girl.
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(Anis) "G-GAH! S/O?!"
Anis is for once at a loss for words when S/O has her against the wall.
Oh god, right now?! What if someone walks in-
...Nevermind. Anis just detected S/O's heartbeat climb to higher and higher rates, and that was before she even looked in front of her.
And just like that she immediately regains her snarky composure.
(Anis) "Come on, if you wanna try something as daring as that, you gotta have the backbone for it!"
She's careful not to utilize all her strength as to not crush them, but it was very easy for her to swap positions.
And with one playful kiss against her lips, she pulls back with a toothy grin and continues walking, leaving S/O a flustered mess.
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(Neon) "OHGOSH-"
Neon's world spun for a brief moment before her eyes landed on S/O in front of her.
Oh, a kiss! Weird way to do it but whatever-
(Neon) "WAIT! Are you doing one of those Cabbydoms on me?!"
She had seen this talked about in her shows!...She thinks, anyway.
Neon suddenly becomes excited, eagerly waiting for S/O to continue before they immediately averted their gaze, making her pout.
(Neon) "Oh fine, I'll do it myself!"
Neon, despite being so small, aggressively slams S/O against the wall before crashing her lips against theirs.
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(AK-12) "Oh?"
12 allowed herself to be gently shoved into the wall behind her, waiting to see what S/O would do.
Much to her amusement, they did nothing after that. Or more accurately, they failed to kiss her after making a valiant attempt.
(AK-12) "Hm, so close.~"
Her eyes open for a brief moment just to tease them, and suddenly pushes them against the opposite wall, still staring into their eyes as S/O's darted to avoid her close scrutiny.
(AK-12) "Look at me, S/O. I'm about to show you how it's properly done."
Kissing them for a brief moment, she pulls away and closes her eyes once more, hearing S/O stutter almost every word and making her giggle.
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Well, S/O tried to push 15 to the wall to kabedon them.
Instead, she remained completely still as they failed to even make her budge, making her raise an eyebrow.
(AK-15) "S/O, do you require something?"
(S/O) "A-Ah...n-nothing, don't worry about it."
Detecting their vitals, it was clear S/O was lying. Were they attempting to show affection?
RPK-16 told her of a style to make your lover's heart race, and decided to try it.
15 effortlessly pushes S/O into the wall, picking them up with both her arms and kissing them, hearing S/O yelp before kissing back.
At least it worked.
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M16 has a shit-eating grin the entire time, her eyebrows playfully waggling at her S/O.
(M16A1) "Oooh!~ Gonna shut me up, S/O?"
She watched S/O go through six different emotions in the span of a few seconds as she genuinely thought they would kiss her.
And to both her disappointment and surprise, they didn't.
(M16A1) "Don't wuss out, S/O! Gotta back up what you're doing! Like THIS-!"
M16 crashes her lips into S/O before pinning them into the wall, her hands grabbing their wrist, not letting them come up for air until she got her message across.
It was a good thing she both had a few drinks in her, and that they weren't completely alone so her confidence wouldn't shrink.
Truth be told, if they had done this to her in private, then she would be just as nervous. Not that S/O needed to know that.
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r0-boat · 6 months ago
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OmG thanks so much for all the delicious stuff you wrote ❤️❤️❤️ Wonder if you can write sth about somnophilia, like one night the WHB kings are horny and their s.o is deep in sleep 👀
Again thank you for the smut, I re-read it multiple times already 😋
Sure! Thank you so much for liking my writing! I really like writing for these demons.
Whb Kings Somnophila
Cw: dubcon (s/o is asleep and does not say yes or no to advances.)
the kings are horny, but s/o is sleeping deeply.
Nsfw
Satan
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His cock is throbbing in his pants; He wants you so bad but he can't bring himself to wake you up. You look so peaceful, so cute. He's utterly entrenched by your deep slumber your chest going up and down peacefully. So peaceful. His hand drifts toward his cock pulsating against the fabric of his jeans. He doesn't take them off rather slip his hand past the fabric and palm his legs. He shutters at how wrong this feels, but he doesn't care.
He gets in bed with you. His pants are long gone. He brings you against his chest. You're cute flesh thighs pressing against his length. It's not your hole, but it will do for now. Satan knows he if were to wake you, his subordinates would skin him alive, and anyone would kill him to be in his position. Your thighs feel amazing pressed against his cock heal. Remember that the next time when annoying ass Levi or Mammon start bragging about you.
Mammon
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He wants to you to lay on top of him; ever since the first meeting were, you slept so peacefully on his chest; he is so desperate for that to happen again. You were so cute, small, and helpless, And he liked it when you used him as a bed. Mammon takes it upon himself to put himself in between the mattress and your body. Where he belongs, underneath you. You stured a little bit in his arms, but once you rested on his chest, he snuggled right into him. Perhaps he liked this a little too much; He smiled from his eyes cock starting to bulge in his pants. Shameless mammon sliding off his pants as he strokes his throbbing length, His other fingers playing with you till you're wet enough for him to slide inside. With your warmth around him and you sleeping peacefully, he was at peace. His dick throbbing inside you has he puts his hand in your hair petting you gently.
Leviathan
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After your first unpeaceful day in Hades after being kidnapped You must have felt exhausted. You absolutely refused to sleep in Levi. Ungrateful human! He offered the most secure and comfy place in the castle and you refuse to sleep on the couch?!
Curled up on the couch, You tried to retain warmth. Levi sighs. He didn't want to leave you here; he picked you up into his arms, moving you to a guest room instead. He was glad he saw you before anyone else could. His heart fluttered, knowing he was the only one to see you so sleepy and cute. You are so bratty and mean before, And now look at you. His eyes soften does he brushes your hair out of your face but this fingers tucking it behind your ear. He felt heat going to his cock. Fuck... You look so irresistible. Jealousy begins to bubble, other demons had to see you like this. Jealousy mixes with lust has Levi slips his cock out of his pants He can't help it He wants you so bad and he keeps thinking about the way your hands went around his neck. What have you done to him??
Beelzebub
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He spreads your sleepy legs apart. He had been so hungry all day thinking about you for a quick meal but now that I found you sleeping so cute and peacefully. He couldn't help but dive his face in between your legs. Doing consciously grind your hips into his face, He eagerly laps at you deeper.. when you finally begin to wake up you clench around his tongue. Your thighs pressed against your head as your eyes fluttered open to meet wild pools of gold. Beel moans against you. As much as he likes your thighs squeezing his head, he pushes you open so he can have his fingers work you. He wants more when he notices you sleepily staring at him. He smirks. "Good morning, sleeping beauty."
Lucifer
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He is pleased to know that you are safe enough with him to fall asleep in his own bed. Though he is a little guilty that You had to wait until you fell asleep in his sheets. He can't help but feel a sense of pride having Solomon's progeny, curious little child of man, in bed, knowing they are so sought after. Another part of him is curious. He had never seen a human sleep so closely. He hopes you don't mind as he lays beside you. As soon as he got beneath the sheets with you, he was getting to move, pressing your ass right up against his crotch instinctively; he wrapped his arms around you, and your back pressed against his chest. Apparently, this is a human sleeping ritual called 'spooning.' The act is innocent but feels inherently sexual since you can feel the curve of your ass pressed against his bulging cock. His breath shakes with his head buried into your hair, inhaling your scent. You can't help but fuck his hips, but not enough to wake you. He wants this moment to last for a little longer.
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ithebookhoarder · 6 months ago
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Hi! I’m not sure if you’re still taking requests for criminal minds but if you are could you do the BAU react to their so being a paramedic/firefighter? :))
If you decide to write this thank you in advance
(BAU Headcanons) If their S.O. was a paramedic/firefighter 🚨
A/N: You're very welcome! Here you are my angel. I'm always taking requests but I can't promise how long I'll take to reply and finish them 😅 Hope this is worth the wait. Also - major shout out to any first responders out there. You are literal superheroes! 💕
Warnings: Mentions of injuries, mentions of mental health, alcohol references, sexual references, references to death. (Let me know if I missed any)
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Aaron Hotchner
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Aaron would be honestly so in awe of you and what you do for a living. He’d also appreciate having a partner who understands what it’s like to have a job with unpredictable hours, such high stakes, and requires risking yourself to save people. 
As such, he would know how important it is to prioritise time together for the two of you. It’s why he is so active with forming a family calendar as he knows that, if it isn’t written in ink, you may never find an opportunity to do something. 
He is all about creating concrete plans for you both, so you have something to look forward to and actually have a chance of being able to arrange it, even if it’s months in advance. It doesn’t matter if it’s Jack’s soccer game, going for a jog in the park together, or a week-long vacation. 
However, he’s learned to be far more flexible if plans don’t work out the way you’d hoped. He’s had virtual Thanksgivings with you over the phone, a boxing-day Christmas, and even turned running errands on a day off into a date-day. 
We know Aaron would honestly hate knowing how much danger you’re in sometimes at work but he also knows he has no leg to stand on given his job and what he does every day. So, you both agree to let the other one know at least once a day that you’re ok, even if only by text. 
You’d have to agree to a ‘no work at home’ policy for you both to even stand a chance of relaxing at home and focusing on Jack (who thinks he has the coolest parents ever! Like, two superheroes for parents? He’s the luckiest kid in the world). 
Aaron would be such a proud partner too, even if he doesn’t always say it out loud. He shows it in his face every time he and Jack come to visit you at work, or when he displays a picture of you receiving an award on his desk for everyone to see. 
He even helps Jack when he asks to go as you for Halloween one year - the sight of which made you cry so hard you couldn’t even speak for a good hour after. Instead, you snap a picture and carry it with you everywhere when you leave the house, and even stick a copy in your locker. 
He’d have notifications set too, tracking incidents in your area so he knows when you may be working or out on a job. He’s also not above pulling the ‘FBI’ card if he even hears of someone making your life hard at work. 
He’d also be the biggest hypocrite, always worried you’re not getting enough sleep or eating enough, despite him running on no sleep and three expressos. 
He’d also be the first to rip into you if he found out you’d taken some unnecessary risk whilst out on a call. 
“I have enough worrying about my own idiots over here without worrying about you doing something stupid too. Please, you need to be more careful, ok? I can’t and won’t lose you. Not like that.”
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David Rossi 
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Rossi has lost many people over the years so he would definitely be terrified of losing you, and getting hurt. However, he knows what it’s like to have a passion for helping people and he’d never stop you from doing what you love and making a difference.
Besides with his crazy schedule he doesn’t mind having a partner who is mostly out working, or also operates on a crazy schedule. It’s almost complimentary, and allows you both not to miss each other too badly when you’re busy. 
Rossi strikes me as a supportive partner in his own ways. For instance, he would make massive donations to fundraisers for your department and for causes supported by your work. He wouldn’t even tell you most of the time, leaving you to work out where the mystery million dollars came from overnight after you just so happened to mention it to him over dinner. 
Speaking of dinner, he’d be keen to invite your colleagues over to his place for social functions, offering to hosts BBQs and family dinners. He’d also invite his BAU family too, knowing how nice it is for your worlds to mix and for people to relax amongst people who get what it’s like to deal with difficult issues. 
He also makes homemade dinners at least once a week, cooking enough so that you both have leftovers to take to work for the next few days. 
He’s also keen to share any recipes he can with you, so you know how to make them when you’re on shift for hours on end. 
“Just because you’re busy saving lives doesn’t mean someone shouldn’t take care of you too!”
This man would also make sure to call you whenever he gets a chance, especially if he is away on a case. He likes hearing your voice and makes sure to ask all about your day so far, knowing its good for both of you to touch base. 
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Derek Morgan
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This man would be the biggest supporter and cheerleader. Like, you know your pictures are all over his desk and he’s always bragging about how you saved someone’s life whenever he gets a chance. 
“Oh yeah, that’s my baby. They’re a literal superhero. They’re badass.”
That doesn’t mean he doesn’t worry about you when you’re away working or if he sees some major incident on the news. He’ll be refreshing his phone over and over until he sees a text from you telling him you’re ok. 
You know he will also be begging Penelope to see what she can find out too, through any means necessary (Hotch doesn’t exactly have to know about it…)
You bet your ass that if he does hear you’re hurt or if something is wrong then he will be bolting his way down to the ER or wherever you are the minute he is able to. Penelope would likely be one step ahead of him if he was unable to be there right away taking care of you until he can.
Morgan is such a good care giver too. He knows how hard it is to take care of others if you don’t take care of yourself so is King of supporting healthy habits. I’m talking meal plans so you eat right, proper sleeping habits when you can make them work, and getting out of your apartment on your days off.
He’s all for vegging on the sofa sometimes but he’s keen to support you where he can and remind you there’s a world outside of work and your home. 
He would be the kind of partner who would suggest doing things together as a couple, whether it’s a daily jog in the park or even training for some kind of race. This gives the two of you a shared goal and also shared time together - including in the shower once you get home. 
“What? It’s twice as fast this way and costs half the water bill, sweetheart.”
Also, you know this man gives the world’s best massages and he would be only too willing to give you one when you get home. He’d even try and wait up for you if he could, although you’ve come home more than once to find him passed out on the sofa. 
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Emily Prentiss
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With her track record of trusting and being betrayed by people I think Emily would be extremely anxious about having a first responder for a partner, even if she would also be totally amazed by you and thinks you’re so badass. 
Like, you can’t tell me she wouldn’t be beaming ear to ear if you ever came to visit the BAU. She would be showing you off to everyone and anyone, giving them all a face to put to the name she’s been talking about for weeks. 
“Babe, you’re amazing. You’re literally saving lives every day. All I did yesterday was fill out a stack of paperwork as big as my arm.” (She ignores the disapproving look Hotch shoots her for that comment…)
It’s just that she’s scared about losing you and it would take you both a while to work out how to make your relationship work and communicate effectively with one another about your fears. I mean, it’s not like you aren’t as equally worried about her but it takes a while for you both to accept that it’s a part of your relationship and that neither of you are willing to give your jobs or each other up. 
When she’s away on a case, or if you’re working overnight, then she won’t be able to sleep unless she sees she has a text from you telling her you’re ok and still in one piece. Of course, she prefers to be able to call if she can but knows it isn’t always possible for both of you if you’re in the middle of a shift. 
She’s a safe space so wouldn’t take it personally when you get home and have fatigue, adrenaline dumps, or just lack any potential excitement or energy for plans you made in advance. 
She’ll meet you where you are, whether it’s cancelling plans and staying in, or going out anyway because you need a distraction. As long as she’s with you then she’s happy and it isn’t like she doesn’t do the same thing after a really bad case. 
Also, we know that you’re the only one she trusts to look after Sergio when she isn’t there, knowing you will be better having someone to cuddle, feed, and look after when you’re not on shift. You become Penelope’s version of Sergio too, as Emily instructs their tech analyst to keep an eye on you both when she can’t. 
She’d be keen to spoil you from time to time and indulges on takeout, trips to the movies, and wants to take you to as many amazing places on holiday as she possibly can. She knows it’s good to travel and to have a complete break from your daily routine. Plus, she knows so many people and so many languages that you’re spoilt on choices of where to stay next. 
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JJ
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I honestly feel like JJ would struggle having a first responder for a partner. She’d be such a Momma Bear that its both wonderful and intimidating.  Like, we know she and Will worked it out eventually with him being a cop, but the fear of losing you would be a big issue for the two of you for a while. As would be navigating how you both deal with the other’s feelings after a bad day on the job. It takes some trial and error before you get into the swing of things. 
For example, she would give the best pep talks and would also know just what to say after a bad day. 
“You did everything you could, sweetheart. I am so proud of you and you saved so many lives today. You may not have been able to save that one, but they knew you tried. They knew you were there and that you cared. That’s all we can ask for in the end. You are amazing and I’ve got you.” 
When you’re both home together, or if you’ve told her you’re having a rough shift, then bath times are a must. She normally has one run, with candles lit, by the time you get in the door. She is also keen to crack open a bottle of wine, or whatever you drink you want, to help you both relax as you lie together in the warm, soapy water and just forget everything for a little while. 
She’d also insist on you both leaving voice messages for the other when you were away, so you could wish the other a ‘goodnight’. It’s comforting to her but she also likes being able to share them with Henry too. 
Speaking of phones, this ex-media liaison would have so many alerts set up and contacts to call if she even suspects you may be out on a major incident. It’s honestly kind of mind-blowing how quickly she managed to get on the phone with your superior, after hearing you could be out on a job that had gone awry. She was in a different state at the time but wouldn’t hang up until they told her what had happened, where you were, and if you were alright. 
She’s also keen to support you in a practical sense, so offers to do loads of laundry for you between shifts and also cleans the house as a way of making sure you have a nice home to come back to. You’d be sure to return the favour when you could, but she likes doing it and being able to show her appreciation for you in such a basic but important way.
JJ would be way more relaxed leaving Henry with you if she’s away, knowing your training makes you like the best possible babysitter ever. 
That, and you cannot tell me that Henry would not worship the ground you walk on. After finding out what you do for work, that little angel would make siren noises whenever you’re in the car together - something you’re keen to encourage as “everyone knows the best part of the job is turning the siren on, JJ. Duh.”
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Luke Alvez
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Luke would be so proud and so scared for you sometimes, being a first responder. 
Luke would understand that you both have super stressful jobs so is keen to suggest a ’leave work at the door’ policy unless one of you really wants to share. He knows sometimes all he wants to do after a challenging case is walk in the door and face-plant on the sofa and he’d be a hypocrite if he didn’t let you do the same… that doesn’t mean he won’t reach over and gently pull of your boots for you, and leave a glass of something on the coffee table for when you feel like it.  
He is also a firm believer that Roxie cures everything, so would be only too happy to leave her with you when he’s out of town, so you can have all the cuddles and playtime you want. 
He also walks her by your work if he gets time so you can come out and sneak a cuddle if you’re not too busy or on a job. Roxie is now your work’s unofficial therapy dog and she loves her role - and the added attention very much. (And you best know she has her own little version of your uniform too).
I feel like he’s the kind of guy who would wake up with you if you have an early start, even if he doesn’t, just so he can cook breakfast and make you coffee in your favourite to-go mug. 
“You deserve to start your day in the right way, so go and enjoy your shower, baby, and it’ll be ready for you when you come out.”
He’d also leave you stupid little love notes in your bag too, knowing they make you smile when you find them later on. You also like to keep them and stick them in your locker for luck, and normally have one tucked in your pocket too. 
He’d also recommend different kinds of music for you to listen to on shift, making you playlists you can share and add to when you’re not together. It’s got so bad your co-workers refuse to let you have the aux when you’re driving around anymore as your choices are so varied they get whiplash. 
Luke also loves getting involved wherever he can, whether it’s donating time to help organise a fundraiser, bringing pizza by work, or going with you as a date to any formal events you’re invited to. He scrubs up niceeee and he loves seeing you all dressed up formal too. 
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Penelope Garcia 
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Penelope would worship the ground you walk on and frets about you like she frets about all her BAU babies when they’re out on a case - but WORSE.
So she does what she does best and compensates with love and kindness. She takes care of the people she loves and you would know that better than anyone. This queen would totally make you care packages and would make sure you had them delivered when you’re on shift. 
“You spend all your time taking care of other people, my real life knight in shining armour. The least I can do is make sure you have some fluffy socks, face masks, and other basic pamper essentials to take care of yourself! Oh, and don’t forget the protein shake I made for you! And stay hydrated! And be safe!”
She’d make sure to send gifts for your co-workers too. It’s why she’s the favourite spouse of all your colleagues and she’s greeted like the queen she is whenever she visits. 
Her cookies have earned her the unofficial title of ‘Star Baker’ and you best know there have been physical fights over them whenever you’ve left them in the crew mess. In fact, your boss has had to give you all warnings about it as a result, calling ‘dibs’ on them if you couldn’t all be trusted to share. 
She would also give you one of her many mascots for the dashboard of your rig, knowing that the little bobblehead or whatever will remind you of her when you’re out on a call. 
Speaking of calls, you know she is tuned in to all scanners / messaging systems so knows exactly where you are at all times, but especially if there is a call out. You best believe she is making sure you’re ok and has her eyes and ears open if you need help of any kind or back-up. 
As a result, you know she has been scolded more than once by Hotch and by the local authorities for interfering and hijacking calls when she thinks you’re being ignored or need assistance. 
Penelope would also be the first person to encourage you to attend some kind of support group, or seek out some kind of therapy, to help deal with all the stressful and traumatic things you deal with on a day to day basis. She would be only too happy to help you find one and would drive you there and back when she’s able. She’d even come along if you wanted her to. 
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Dr Spencer Reid
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Spencer would be an incredibly proud partner and you know it. He would show his support in various different ways and would absolutely take any and all opportunities to remind people he’s dating a superhero (especially Morgan). He doesn’t understand why someone as amazing as you would choose to date someone like him. 
He would like giving you book recommendations so you always have something to read on shift. He’d give you his copies to borrow, so you can enjoy his pencil notes in the margins when he’s not with you. 
Not only that, but he’d also be happy to take recommendations from you too - no matter how different they may be from his usual reading material. That way you can both compare notes when you both get home and leave work behind for a moment.  
Also, you know Spence would be a fountain of knowledge about your job and has probably read up on anything he didn’t already know about your field. There isn’t a piece of jargon or code that he doesn’t know and he loves trying to use it when talking to your colleagues when he visits sometimes. It earns him their respect, which you know he would be nervous about, as your co-workers are like your second family. He’s that way with the BAU and he wants to impress the people who mean the most to you. 
His thirst for knowledge means he is always willing to let you practise different exercises on him and is keen to learn whatever you’re willing to tell him (something that has come in handy on many of his own cases). 
In return, he would like sharing whatever statistics he has memorised about the work you do. It’s also why he is so concerned about you, knowing how much your role takes out of you. His job is tiring and traumatic enough, but he is at least part of a big team and works only one case at a time. 
“I’m just saying sweetheart, it’s estimated that 30% of first responders develop behavioral health conditions including, but not limited to, depression and PTSD, as compared with 20% in the general population. If you ever want to talk to me or someone else, like a professional, then you know that’s ok.”
As much as he isn’t an overly affectionate person, I feel like he’d be the kind of person to buy you both those bracelets that you can tap and it sends a pulse to the other, letting them know you thought about them. It’s like a virtual tap on the shoulder just to let you both know they’ve got you and love you. 
He’d also drive the doctors insane if you ever got hurt on the job, yelling at them to double check their diagnosis if he even thinks you’re not getting the best treatment and care possible. 
He’d also insist on taking care of you during your recovery, not trusting anyone else to do it right - and he also has Dr Who primed for your entertainment. What could be better than that?
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spaceorphan18 · 6 months ago
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I'm not sure how I missed this the first time around - but these are fantastic observations!
I'll add to it that -- Kurt has such a unique relationship with touch. Yes, what was said up above about being a noticeably queer kid. But on top of that, his first interactions with touch (outside family) was always negative. Puck was dumping him dumpsters. Karofsky was shoving him.
And even his dad kept his distance (until he didn't).
He sings to Burt - I want to hold your hand. That's important!
And also - Blaine's touch is constant, reassuring, grounding, and loving. And that's something he wants to (pun not really intended) hold onto.
Yes, yes - to all of this! <3
Have you ever noticed...
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I’ve been collecting these gifs for a while now (almost a year). I find it interesting, and  I don’t think there is any denying it’s more than a coincidence.
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If I were braver, I might perhaps delve into how I think maybe both Kurt and Blaine suffer from touch-starvation, a real and diagnosable medical issue. Possibly, I’d boldly declare that Kurt’s love language is words of affirmation (thus the reason he LOVES to be publicly serenaded). There is no way in heck you’re going to touch him until your words make him believe you do care and love him (think about that hug when he finally came out to his dad). And the instant connection he had with Blaine was tied to touch as well. As that trust grew (and words of affirmation spoken), he loved having that connection with Blaine and craved it from then on. I’ll leave those random thoughts there for you to ponder.
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In the meantime… This is all the gifs I’ve collected of Kurt when he’s thinking about or near Blaine. Maybe someone else can take this and run with it. I love to hear everyone’s meta—it’s fun.
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PS! And I’m so sorry that I didn’t realize when I started collecting these that I should keep track of who made them (many are from the internet). If you created one of these gifs, let me know I’ll give you credit. ♥ Bless the content creators!
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