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Post-One-Year Anniversary to PyeongChang Timeline
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2019, continued:
February 22 -- Scott poses with several junior ice dance teams on the ice at Toronto Cricket Club and is thanked for his help (Toronto)
February 23 -- Tessa posts from Florence, Italy + Scott at Ilderton Arena + Scott posts a video from Thank You Ilderton + attends Paul Brandt concert that night (London)
February 25 -- Tessa posts with Carolina Kostner and Anna Capellini (Florence) + VM confirmed as skaters for Fantasy on Ice + Great Kitchen Party/b2ten release video about their organization's partnership with an interview with VM
February 27 -- Tessa's Nivea Urban Skin commercial debuts + Scott's Leaf Nation interview game session Guess Who? is released + Scott posts on twitter regarding a Leafs game + Tessa posts from Tuscany, Italy
March 2 -- Scott at a Blue Jays spring training game (Dunedin, Florida) + Tessa posts from Tuscany
March 3 -- Tessa posts from Tuscany
March 4 -- Scott works with Carreira/Ponomaranko at Novi (Detroit) + attends a celebratory dinner + Tessa posts her new Nivea commercial + Toys R Us/Barbie announces Tessa as one of their choices as a Canadian role model and an appearance
March 6 -- Tessa announces partnership with Barbie
March 7 -- Scott tweets about Tessa’s Barbie partnership
March 8 -- Tessa appears on several morning shows with her Barbie “Close The Dream Gap” promotion and a Barbie event (Toronto)
March 9 -- Tessa at Toys R Us as an appearance in partnership with Barbie/Mattel as a Canadian Role Model for Barbie's 60th birthday (Mississagua) + Tessa and Scott individually post about Lajoie/Lagha’s Junior World gold medal win
March 11 -- Scott’s Leafs TV interview is released (taped February 19)
March 14 -- Tessa tapes commercial for Air Miles partnership (Toronto)
March 17 -- Tessa appears as a presenter for the Juno awards (London)
March 19 -- Tessa spotted at The Root Cellar for dinner (London)
March 21 -- Tessa attends Nivea UrbanSkin launch event (Toronto)
March 22 -- Scott in an Instagram story doing coach duty (Montreal)
March 23-24 -- Tessa and Scott doing choreography with Sam (Montreal) + Tessa spotted on a flight back to London
March 25 -- Scott coaching Lajoie/Lagha (Montreal)
April 1 -- Scott and Tessa speak at M&M Food Market partnership rally (Mississauga, morning) + Tessa and Scott 'London Sportspeople of the Year' celebrity dinner and auction (in support of Thames Valley Children's Centre) (London, evening) + Tessa’s Nivea No Limits peacock commercial is revealed + Tessa’s cover on Glory magazine is revealed and Tessa is named as one of Canada’s 30 under 30 leaders by Bay St. Bull
April 2 -- Tessa appears on several shows to promote Nivea No Limits campaign (Toronto)
April 3 -- Tessa posts about Scott making a coffee purchase with their Visa card + VM spotted at lunch at King St. Eats + Tessa and Scott tour the Walter Carsen Centre with Canadian National Ballet’s Heather Ogden and Guillaume Cote and announce an upcoming project with Cote
April 4 -- VM working with Ogden/Cote again + filming a segment for Hello Fresh + attend Air Canada Wanderluxe gala in support of SickKids Hospital and Herbie fund + Tessa revealed as a guest judge for upcoming season of MasterChef Canada
April 5 -- VM spotted at Granite Club on the ice (Toronto)
April 6 -- Scott in Calgary participating in a development camp for skaters
April 7 -- Scott continuing at the development camp (Calgary) + Tessa in photoshoot (London)
April 8 -- VM release a short, silly segment promoting their appearances April 9 + Tessa posts from Toronto
April 9 -- media day for Rock The Rink (RTR) - most cities and dates are released for the fall tour + VM appear on several radio and TV shows promoting it
April 10 -- day 2 of RTR media day
April 11 -- Tessa in London, England
April 13 -- Tessa with Lilah and Sasha Fear (London)
April 14 -- Tessa on the ice and at tea with the Fears (London)
April 16 -- Tessa and Scott in practices for Ice Fantasia (South Korea)
*****Ice Fantasia (April 19-21) (South Korea)
April 24 -- Tessa at a photoshoot (Toronto)
April 25 -- Tessa appears on Anastasia Bucsis’ podcast Player’s Own Voice (to air in June) + Tessa at Jessica Mulroney’s One Connection event with Bumble Bizz (Toronto)
April 27 -- Scott in a photo with a fan in a restaurant (exact date unverified) (Ilderton area)
April 29 -- Tessa in a dance studio with TVA Sports (Montreal)
May 1 -- Tessa appears at Villa Maria College to promote FillActive FitSpirit (Montreal)
May 2 -- Tessa at a photoshoot for BonLook (Montreal) + Tessa attends the Canada Youth Summit as a guest speaker with FillActive FitSpirit with Sophie (Ottawa) + Scott coaches for his mom/aunts’ skating school (Komoka)
May 3 -- Tessa and Scott at a restaurant with Rock The Rink’s band Birds of Bellwoods (Toronto) + Tessa and Scott attend CSOI ‘incognito’ (Toronto)
May 4 -- Tessa attends Jordan’s barre class at BarreBelles + has an outdoor photoshoot with Adidas (Toronto) + Scott spotted arriving at Tampa airport
May 5 -- Tessa attends Run for Women (Moncton)
***** Canada's Great Kitchen Party Auction Trip, Mallorca (May 9-16)
May 16 -- Tessa’s Air Miles commercial drops
May 17 -- Tessa’s 30th birthday! posted pictures, location unknown
May 19 -- Tessa spotted out for a meal (Stratford?)
May 20 -- Tessa at the Budweiser Stage in partnership with Air Miles (Toronto)
***** Canada's Great Kitchen Party Auction Trip, Newfoundland (May 22-27)
May 27-28 -- Tessa and Scott give a talk at Investor’s Group Presidents Academy conference (New York)
May 29 -- Tessa posts as a partner of Colgate + Tessa and Scott are named as guest judges on the upcoming fall season of Battle of the Blades + spotted in the Sendai train station
*****Fantasy on Ice Tour (May 31 - June 16) (Japan)
May 31 - June 2 -- FOI, Sendai
June 3 -- Tessa goes out with other skaters to karaoke + Tessa’s episode as a guest judge on Master Chef Canada airs (taped in December 2018)
June 7 - 9 -- FOI, Kobe
June 14 -16 -- FOI, Toyoma
June 20 -- Tessa posts a picture from the cottage
June 21 -- Tessa at a shoot for MAC
June 22 -- Tessa attends Jordan’s Barre Belles class + Tessa, Jordan and the McMorris brothers attend the Arkells concert at Budweiser Stage (Toronto)
June 24 -- Tessa in Prince Edward Island + night out with other celebrities attending the Special Olympics gala (including Elisha Cuthbert Phaneuf) + renovations begin on the new location of Moir’s Skate Shop
June 25 -- Tessa attends the Special Olympics Enriching Lives Summerside Luncheon + the Enriching Lives gala (Charlottetown) + Tessa’s new collection with BonLook is revealed
June 26 -- Tessa spotted at the airport (Charlottetown)
June 27 -- Scott attends Canada Day celebrations at Parkhill-West Williams Public School
June 29 -- Scott takes a photo with a fan in his local area
June 30 -- Tessa posts Instastories of an at-home outdoor workout BarreBelle style with Jordan + a picture of her at the cottage
July 1 -- Tessa posts for Canada with a cottage pic
July 2 -- Tessa shares and IG story from the cottage featuring her Olympic gold medalist beer fridge from Molson
July 3 -- Tessa posts a picture with Jordan from the cottage
July 6-13 -- Tessa on vacation in Vancouver and California with Liz, Madori, and others (exact dates unknown)
July 15 -- Tessa posts herself at London airport
July 16 -- Tessa at a photoshoot (Montreal)
July 17 -- Tessa has a reunion dinner with queenopain, Jaime from b2ten/Reconditioning/P2 (Montreal)
July 18 -- Tessa and Scott give a talk at Deloitte Canada financial advisory summit (Mont Tremblant)
July 20 -- Tessa and Scott each post to social media to encourage people to go to Tim Horton’s to buy a Special Olympics doughnut to support the cause (Scott’s photo was taken with Dave Campbell, osteopath from b2ten)
July 26 -- Tessa attends a MAC meet and greet at Yorkdale Mall (Toronto)
July 27 -- Tessa does a Shopper’s Drug Mart Nivea ‘fireside chat’ at Vaughn Mills (Toronto)
July 31 - Aug 1 -- Tessa does a photoshoot for Adidas (Montreal)
August 2 -- Tessa attends Osheaga and has a meet and greet with the winner of a Nivea contest (Montreal) + Tessa and Scott release an Apple playlist
August 3 -- Tessa attends Osheaga
August 6 -- Tessa attends Walk of Fame Hometown Stars celebration for Chris Hadfield (Sarnia)
August 7 -- Tessa and Scott each receive their Walk of Fame Hometown stars (Ilderton and London) + Scott’s engagement to Jackie becomes official public knowledge + Tessa and Scott do several interviews
August 8 -- Moir’s Skate Shop re-opens in their new location (Komoka)
August 12 -- Tessa does a photoshoot with Paul Buceta (Mississauga)
August 13 -- Tessa and Scott have a media day for Rock the Rink, with Kaetlyn, Elvis, Jeremy, and Birds of Bellwood (Toronto)
August 14 -- Tessa and Scott in the dance studio with Guillaume Cote (Toronto) + Scott does a coaching session at Granite Club (Toronto)
August 16 -- Tessa’s Adidas ad comes out
August 17 -- Scott attends a wedding
August 18 -- Tessa and Scott’s Hometown Stars events air on local TV
August 21 -- Tessa is announced as an ambassador for RW&CO + she attends an event to promote their collaboration (Toronto)
August 22 -- Tessa has a photoshoot (possibly MAC) (Toronto)
August 28 -- Tessa and Scott spotted practicing (Komoka?) + Tessa has a shoot with new partner Yves
August 29 -- Tessa spotted out (possibly the 28th) + Tessa gives talk at private Adidas event + has a possible interview at Assembly Chef’s Hall
August 30 -- Tessa and Scott practicing (Komoka?) + Scott posted out with Jackie
September 7 -- Tessa has a meet and greet for The Brick at West Edmonton Mall (Edmonton)
September 8 -- Tessa attends the TIFF Dior launch party Toronto + Tessa and Scott have a late night practice session with Gui Cote
September 9 -- Tessa and Scott spotted for another practice session
September 11 -- Tessa has a shooting day, for unknown reasons relating to Team Canada Champion Chats (Classroom Champions)
September 12 -- Tessa’s Adidas VRCT jacket ad drops
September 15 -- Tessa posts about packing for RTR rehearsals
September 16 -- Scott borrows AC/DC lyrics to tweet about leaving for Vancouver for RTR rehearsals with the cast
September 17 -- first glimpse of on ice RTR rehearsals with the cast via Jeremy Abbott (Abottsford) + Tessa and Scott announce they are stepping away from skating after RTR
September 19 -- Tessa and Scott guest judge on the premiere of Battle of the Blades (Hamilton)
September 20 -- Tessa and Scott are back to rehearsals for RTR (Abbotsford)
September 21 -- Tessa and Scott attend an Elton John concert with Jeremy Abbott, Kaetlyn Osmond, and choreographers Matheiu and Randi
September 23 -- Tessa and Scott drop the puck at a Vancouver Canucks/Ottawa Senators (Abbotsford)
September 30 -- Scott visits a local dance school with other members of RTR (Abbotsford)
October 1 -- Tessa attends We for She as a keynote speaker (Vancouver)
*****Rock The Rink tour (October 5 - November 23)
October 5 - RTR, Abbotsford + Tessa and Scott have photo taken with a fan at a liquor store (exact date unknown)
October 6 - RTR, Penticton
October 7 - RTR, Vancouver
October 8 - RTR, TBA (removed from lineup)
October 10 - RTR, Red Deer
October 11 - RTR, Dawson Creek
October 12 - RTR, Prince George
October 13 - RTR, Grand Prairie
October 16 - RTR, Calgary
October 17 - RTR, Lethbridge
October 18 - RTR, Regina
October 19 - RTR, Medicine Hat
October 20 - RTR, Brandon
October 22 - Tessa and Scott spotted travelling from Toronto to London
October 23 -- Tessa and Scott to be awarded honorary degrees from Western University (London)
October 24 -- Tessa and Scott guest judge on Battle of the Blades (Oshawa)
October 25 - RTR, Winnipeg - removed from lineup
October 26 - RTR, Saskatoon - removed from lineup
October 29 - RTR, Sault Ste. Marie
October 30 - RTR, London
October 31 -- Tessa and Scott guest judge on Battle of the Blades finale (Toronto)
November 1 - RTR, Sudbury + Tessa and Scott do a radio interview via phone
November 2 - RTR, Kitchener
November 3 - RTR, Kingston
November 5 -- Scott does several joint television interviews with Special Olympians (Toronto) + individual radio interview (including information that his wedding will be in July) + Scott attends a Maple Leafs game with Max, Patrick, and Andrew Poje
November 6 - RTR, MIssissauga + Scott announced as a Board Ambassador for Scott Hamilton’s Sk8 to Elimin8 Cancer (to unite skaters and communities)
November 7 - RTR, Ottawa + Tessa and Scott along with Patrick, Tatiana, Max, and Jeremy are spotted having breakfast at Sunset Grill (Ottawa)
November 8 - RTR, St. Catharines + Impact magazine releases interview with Tessa + Tessa spotted out to dinner with friends before the show at Merchant Ale House (St Catharines)
November 9 - RTR, Oshawa
November 10 - RTR, Cleveland - cancelled + Tessa attends a Barre Belle class (possibly with Jordan)
November 13 - RTR, Peterborough
November 14 - RTR, Laval + Tessa announced as part of Classroom Champions
November 15 - RTR, Quebec City
November 16 - RTR, Moncton + Jeremy shares a video of the RTR cast watching Austin Powers on the tour bus
November 17 - RTR, Halifax + Jeremy’s personal takeover on IG for Edges of Glory shares behind the scenes and short chats with the cast and crew as the tour comes to an end + Tessa and Scott film a segment for This Hour Has 22 MInutes + the cast is spotted at The Press Gang Restaurant and Oyster Bar and at The Lower Deck (Halifax)
November 18 - Scott out at a Karaoke Club
November 20 -- Tessa spotted at Winsor House (St. John’s)
November 21 -- Tessa tapes a television interview for “Out of the Fog” + Scott spotted out and about (possibly with Patrick, Max, and Tati) (St. John’s)
November 23 - RTR, Saint John’s, with family in attendance
2020
******May 12-19 - GKP Ireland (Galway and Conmerra)
******May 20-27 - GKP Italy (Matera)
#thank you as always to balletfever89 and @dreamofawonderfullife for the earlier timelines#thank you to @mysticseasons and @virtchandmoir for having such consistent and reliable blogs for VM news#and thank you to the other posters and anons who help me keep this accurate#timeline#post-one-year anniversary#timeline 2019
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The Pig Led to Slaughter - Drabble for Griffin's Blog (Part One)
A/N: Hey guys so @griffintail does ask collabs with Lemon Anon on their blog. Their latest story (collab 6) didn't have enough angst so I decided to make some. This is the result. You should check out their collab for context since it is an AU of sorts. Don't want to? Here's the summary: Pirate Captain Dad! Technoblade with SBI+Fundy, Y/N Style. Hold on to your bootstraps, we're just getting started. >:) - Minty
TW: Suspicion, mention of murder, lying, mention of getting arrested, cursing. (Let me know if I need to tag anything else!)
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It was early in the morning, the sun just peeking over the town’s buildings, that a loud knock awoke the blonde light-sleeper. Startled, he’d nearly fallen out of his own bed, muttering a few curses to himself. Untangling himself from the sheets, he stumbled out of his room. Three more knocks sounded from the door. Briefly, he was relieved seeing Y/N curled up in her bed with Tommy, fast asleep. At the very least, they didn’t get woken up.
Another three knocks - what could possibly be so urgent at this hour?
“I’m coming, I’m coming…” He grumbled as he descended the stairs, moving across the house toward the front door. Pulling the robe a bit more over himself, he begrudgingly opened the door. Still gaining his bearings from being abruptly awoken, it took the older man a minute or two for his brain to process the royal blue uniforms.
Navy. Shit.
Well, if he wasn’t awake before, that fact certainly slapped the older man into reality. Two officers, swords at their hips, looked at him sternly, almost as if they were sizing up how much of a threat he was. “Good morning, officers. How may I help you?”
“Sorry to disturb you at this hour, Mr. Craft. There was a recent attack at sea…” The Naval Officer’s gaze slightly peers beside Phil into the house, almost as if looking for something. “Could we ask you a few questions?”
Despite how uncomfortable these two made him feel, Phil knew he couldn’t exactly turn them away. If he did, they’d just come back with more officers and take him to jail. No, he couldn’t risk it - he had Y/N to think about now. Technoblade trusted him with looking out for his daughter. It’s not as if he could simply pick up and move like he used to. Besides, they couldn’t have figured out any incriminating details about him… could they? He willed himself to calm as he opened up the door further. “Of course, come in gentlemen.”
The two soldiers scanned the room, moving through it, looking at every detail. Phil gained a little confidence as he slowly realized something - they don’t even know what they’re looking for. They're being too obvious about it, they wanted him to give them hints, reactions, anything. But sadly for them, he was smarter than that. A small smile appeared on his face as he moved to light a candle.
“I’m sorry for the state of things, I wasn’t exactly expecting company.”
“No worries sir.” An officer dismissed with a small smile as Phil turned around, candle holder in hand. Phil moved over toward the couch, placing the candle holder on the table for a bit of light in the dark room.
“We can talk over here - can I offer either of you anything to drink? Coffee, tea...?”
The other Naval Officer, who was previously looking at the mirror with a vase of flowers in front of it in the doorway, spoke: “We’re fine. It’ll only take a few moments of your time, at most.”
“Of course.” Phil agreed, settling on one end of the couch. “You said there was an attack?”
The more friendly officer agreed. “Yes, a few days ago last I heard. A band of pirates attacked a cargo ship carrying the Kingdom’s trade. The captain hasn’t been much of a threat before, but since it was the property of the crown the King wants him captured. His name was Technoblade, I believe?”
“Technoblade…” Phil murmured to himself, acting confused. “What a strange name indeed.”
“He’s known to frequent this town for supplies, a few sources say you’ve interacted?”
“Well, I’m quite the merchant myself, I’m not entirely surprised - Though I can’t confirm for sure.”
“How so, Mr. Craft?”
Phil nervously laughed. “I’m afraid to tell you, gentlemen, that I seem to have misplaced my logbook. I’m planning on seeing the bookmaker on that in a few day’s time, however. My apologies.”
“No need, perhaps you can recognize him from the picture?” The other piped up, unfolding a piece of parchment to reveal a drawn sketch of his son. It was pretty accurate. Scarily so. It captured the fire-like determination in his son’s eyes that never extinguished. The scars were all in the correct places, even one close to his eye that Phil recalled he fretted over when Techno had arrived home at last, claiming that the blow could’ve blinded him.
Phil tensed slightly, and the more aggressive naval officer’s eyes flicked up to his. They bore into him. “Is there something wrong, Mr. Craft?”
Keep calm. Don’t give anything away. They need you.
Wilbur needs you. Fundy needs you. Tommy needs you. Y/N needs you.
Technoblade needs you.
“Pardon me, officers - just… lifelike, that’s all.” Phil put on his best smile. “Nearly gave me a fright.” He laughed a bit, and the officer holding the poster gave him a warm smile.
“No worries, sir. Just take a good look for a second - do you recognize this man?”
‘WANTED’ was sprawled across the top. ‘Armed and Dangerous’ is written at the bottom. Oh, and there was the reward for catching him. Phil saw so many zeroes he didn’t know whether to be proud or disgusted. After all, Phil couldn’t count the number of times, in the beginning, he’d told Techno how dangerous this business was, the number of pirates who got caught and put in prison or were victims of the gallows. He told him it was risky, he told him he could die.
But, he guessed, Technoblade always lived life to the fullest, a bit more on edge than others ever dreamed they would. It was a part of him Phil could never change. It was a part of him Phil loved. So, even though he wanted him to be safe, who was he to take that adventure-seeking spark in his eyes away? He was happy, after all. But now, reality began to seep in. Reality of Y/N growing up without a father, without her father. Before, Technoblade had nothing to lose.
Now? Now, he had everything to lose.
As the two officers looked to him for an answer, Phil swallowed the knot in his throat. He knew lying to a government official was a traitorous offense. He knew what would happen if they caught wind of the truth. But he and his sons… they were apples from the same tree, he supposed. Risk-takers. Liars.
For Phil… family always came first.
“No… No, I can’t say I’ve seen him.” Phil shook his head slightly. “Though I thank you both for the warning, I’ll definitely be on the lookout for him.”
A yawn sounded from behind him as someone descended the stairs. “Phil…?” Phil’s head snapped over to Tommy, who looked weary at the scene in front of him. The father could feel the officer’s gazes on him from just sitting there. He’d hoped that he could get the officers to leave before Tommy or Y/N woke up. At this point he hoped Tommy could stay as calm as he was, or he could risk undoing all the protection Phil had done to keep them from suspicion. “Phil, what’s…?”
“Oh, Tommy. I didn’t mean to wake you up this early.” Phil stood, noticing Tommy’s stiffened stance at the Navy, moving forward to gently place his hands on his youngest’s shoulders. He turned to the other two with a smile. “My son.” Phil could feel Tommy shaking with anger and fear. He squeezed the teen’s shoulders to help bring him back to reality before he boiled over. “I’m so sorry to put you in such a state when we have guests, I didn’t think it would take this long.” Tommy’s eyes flicked up to his, a silent message. Is this about Techno? Phil gave a slight nod. “Hm, yes I know you must be hungry… go on upstairs and get changed, I’ll try to make you some breakfast in a minute, I promise.”
Tommy’s shoulders relaxed as he awkwardly looked at the officers, standing down. “Uh… right. Right. I’m sorry… I…” He turned without another word, quickly climbing the stairs.
“Your boy okay?” The naval officer asked, eyeing the staircase.
Phil nervously laughed. “You’ll have to excuse him, he gets nervous around strangers.” He explained. “I really should be getting to making breakfast, is there anything else I can help you both with?”
The other piped up, reassuring. “I don’t believe so, Mr. Craft. We’re deeply sorry to have inconvenienced you.”
“No, please…” Phil answered. “This was quite informative.”
“Keep the poster as a reference and notify us if you see him in the area… don’t approach, he’s known to be unstable, sir - talking to himself.”
“I see.” Phil nodded as he led the two to the door. The voices were acting up again… something must’ve happened. “Thank you so much for letting me know.”
They both tipped their hats in respect. “Sir.”
“Sir.” The one behind him repeated. “Have a good day, Mr. Craft. We’ll keep in touch.”
Gods, Phil hoped they wouldn’t.
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That Ultimates question!
I’ve seen numerous posts about the question asked of Chyler in regards to social media at Starfury Ultimates, May 2019. (Link will be at the end for her full answer if you haven’t read it or wish to refresh your memory).
The amount of disinformation as to who asked the question or what the question actually entailed is quite startling.
I’ve seen people say it was inappropriate, that the question should never have been asked. But before I get into this too much, I need to say the question was reviewed by a number of Starfury staff after the event and all agreed that it was a well worded question. These are neutral staff, who run these events for a living, so are perfectly placed on to what is or isn’t appropriate.
So my first point is this: one person asked the question, entirely on their own initiative. Let’s not blame someone just because you believe it to be true. It isn’t.
It was also talked about to others before Ultimates, seeing if it should be asked - and the driving force behind that question was truly about social media and hate. Not how it should be worded or to attack a group or people in particular.
So look, here it is. The photo of the handwritten question (that is accurate & not a mock up). This is posted with full permission.
So yes, Sanvers is mentioned, but in truth, we can easily say it was way beyond Sanvers on this question. Remember the way Chris Woods was attacked? Or how about Floriana. Both got horrific amounts of hate and that in turn led to some awful fights going on between sections of fans and it can and does still go on.
However, we can also say that once Azie was announced it became another horrible situation, and that was in part why this question was asked. I saw fans being attacked for supporting Azie, or for still supporting Chyler in her role as Alex, or still supporting the show and much more.
Let alone the hate that was spewed by fans towards the person posing the question was that was almost immediate on Twitter. Hate that could’ve had police involvement in some cases it was so bad. Yes possible police involvement was mentioned. That hate trickled down to anyone associated with the person who asked the question, the severity depending on the perceived closeness of that friendship. So I and my husband got some hate as well, albeit not to that level.
I personally got attacked by numerous fans over comments I made on my own timeline, that wasn’t directed at anyone beyond my own thoughts & opinions before Ultimates. I didn’t @ anyone or hashtag anyone or a fandom. Yet I got horrific almost immediate hate the moment I posted things. So did my husband. Both of us had posts completely misrepresented. In several instances people completely misread them and even when this was pointed out, we still got attacked.
I got DM’s telling me who I should or shouldn’t follow for months in advance of May from people I barely knew, or had never interacted with. All trying to sway my opinion on someone or something. Even when I politely asked these posters not do that, that I was getting dragged into something that had nothing to do with me, and that I really didn’t appreciate it - I’d get the replies of ‘yeah fine, we get it’ - only for them to carry on with more reasons why I should listen to them & agree with them.
Let’s just turn this around - If someone comes into your timeline or your DM’s & told you to stop posting about someone or something, or who you can & can't interact with, you’d be rightly annoyed.
I know we can’t always agree on things, but if there is one thing I am sure of it’s we should all use our own critical thinking on how we interact on social media. I absolutely do not agree with telling anyone how they should be around other users if I don’t like their friendship and especially wouldn’t say anything if I wouldn’t interact with them normally, or how they should post on your own timeline (unless it is outright bullying or racist, bigotry etc). That becomes authoritarian and in part egotistical if you turn around and say you can only listen to my opinion.
We can’t all like the same people or agree on the same things, yet too often this is taken as being an automatic attack on someone or a fandom, or group. The reality is, that is real life; we are all different, not robots to be commanded about how we think or act. That sort of expectation becomes more like a cult than fandom (and for goodness sake before anyone accuses me about making that comment specific to a fandom, I’m not).
So let me say from a personal standpoint; I was glad that question was asked, because I had seen my husband have aspects of himself attacked (especially being transgender and referred to ‘it’ more than once), or how I was pushed on how to behave, what to say or who to interact with, or just attacked especially behind the scenes. This was going too far. And yes - this was all from Sanvers fans in our instance. Not anons or alt accounts, but known active Sanvers fans. This is when I do mention a fandom, but it applies to more than one group. This doesn’t mean I’m dismissing others' experiences, but merely mentioning my own. If attacks were so bad after the question, that police involvement was a distinct possibility, that is what is not acceptable. These again were Sanvers fans and we can’t shy away from that.
Also I think it’s important we remember Chyler’s opening & closing lines on her reply, as it helps show how important it was for her to answer the question:
The start of her answer.
“So, so, I’ll be very honest with you, I’m very glad that you asked me that question, and this is a very big discussion amid our crew, in this season in particular, as far as our gaggle of gals has expanded. It includes Melissa, and it includes Azie, and it includes ah, Katie, and we’ve had multiple conversations about you know, about the fandom….”
The end.
“I love you all. And I really want to thank you for giving me this opportunity. I’m surprised I said so much.”
As for it put Chyler on the spot and she felt uncomfortable answering or it made her cry. If you go to enough conventions over the years, you know if Chyler didn’t want to answer I’m pretty sure she she wouldn’t have given the length or depth of answer she did. Reminder of her words: I’m very glad that you asked me that question.
I’ve seen guests plenty of times either politely decline to answer something (usually with; ‘this really isn’t a question I feel is right to ask or relevant to the panel’ or a variant of that, to answers that are brief & fairly basic). Chyler’s was neither of those.
Yes, Chyler did get emotional towards the end, but if you took the time to read what she said, it isn’t surprising. This was obviously something that was emotive for her, not because of the question per se, but because of what it meant as a whole. It was also asked at the Supergirl panel, not the Sanvers panel as that seems to be going around.
Plus refer to my earlier point, neutral Starfury staff had no issue over the question & thought it well worded.
I also have to ask: if this question had come from anyone else in the audience, would these kind of things be said? I truly doubt it would. For some maybe it wouldn’t change their opinion, but I really think that a lot of what has happened is not because of the question itself, but because of who asked it.
I say that in part because I saw Tweets flying around well before the question was even asked talking about who was in line to ask something, and variants of the theme of that it was bound to have a go at Sanvers fans, and how dare the bullies be given a platform to speak. So without even knowing what was going to be asked, people were placing their own opinion as fact out there on Twitter.
Another thing I should mention is that people are saying the question meant the Sanvers panel the following day became a moderated panel.
No. It didn’t. That moderation was announced by Sean before the Supergirl panel began, long before the question was asked or known. Again, don’t put your own bias on this. Why it was moderated had nothing to do with it, and placing that sort of accusation on people is not right.
Also when people say it wasn’t the right arena for the question to be asked. Why not? It’s a fandom event and the question was about fandom. This comes back to something I’ve mentioned before; if you don't like an answer to any question, it doesn't automatically make it that the question is wrong. In fact, if you simply say a question is wrong, even before an answer is given, it holds as well - it doesn’t automatically mean the question is wrong. Just as difference of opinion, no matter how unsavoury to you, doesn't mean it is bullying.
It’s also been said the question should never have been asked as it made attendees cry & get upset.
As much as I’m empathetic that some were upset, we can’t not ask questions purely because we feel it might not be well received by everyone there. We can’t know it will upset people to the point of crying, anymore than you can say it shouldn’t be asked. As I say, we have to genuinely ask, was it the person asking the question that caused that reaction, or the question itself?
If it was the question itself, what part exactly? Because as a question overall, without cherry picking out words to take them out of context, I personally feel it was valid and seeing Chyler answer as she did shows me it had merit.
Last but by no means least: It's obvious some people object to me and my opinion and that's fine. I accept people can't always agree on things. I just ask people don’t continue to come onto my account or my timeline to carry on discussions knowing we’ll never agree on something. That serves no purpose other than to browbeat someone and honestly, I don’t have the time or energy to keep repeating the same thing ad-infinitum. I post on my timeline, and don’t ask anyone to read it or retweet it. I don’t do it with any agenda beyond trying to spread kindness or awareness. If you don’t want to see my posts, by all means please block me. I don’t have issue with that, but if you or others continue to stalk my account, then you and you alone have that responsibility.
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