#and tbh it all stems back to the kind of systematic misogyny everywhere in comic books

[ravensvirginity]

the way fans deny that bbra3 is way more advantagous for gar than it is for raven is really strange, raven's character hasnt been really used well since the 80s and a little bit of the 90s but it was derailed as soon as she dated gar and DC made it their mission to keep the synergy between the cartoon and raven in the comics after that no authour has tried to revive NTT raven other than marv wolman and maybe geoff in the later writings but its completely gone after that, the codependency of the couple is destroying their characters

LITERALLY. when I've argued with fans of that ship the most common response I've gotten is "don't you want Raven to be happy?" like no, this is not happiness, this is her being attached at the hip to a guy who does nothing for her in universe or out of it. i hope jakey dies