#and prefer other cultures *cough*mandalorians*cough* exclusively because they have something closer to a western family system
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After vague blogging about fanfic and YA I will say that the issue of media for teens mixing poorly with all ages and adult media is not a problem exclusive to fanfic writers. 90% of the conflict in the star wars fandom stems from the fact that star wars’ YA and children’s media is to some degree canonically and philosophically incompatible with the mainline movies. In the movies the Jedi are unequivocally the heroes and we’re supposed to respect them even as they get backed into a terrible corner. They’re wise heroes doing their best.
In the media made for kids by necessity the adults of the Jedi order have to make absolutely wild and absurd decisions in order for the kid protagonists to get chances to do heroic stuff actual kids would find fun and exciting. This naturally puts their behavior at odds with the goals of the movies.
Add in that the movies don’t hold up to close reads because they’re intended to be fun summer blockbusters, and the fact that the Jedi are based on a fairly shallow understanding of a non-western collectivist lifestyle without nuclear families which is extremely foreign to western audiences and what do you get? Decades worth of discourse over whether the Jedi are actually good guys which can never be resolved because they're based on completely different ways of analyzing media. Worse, nobody can agree on what parts of star wars should be counted in the first place so even if you're analyzing things in the same style you might still be doomed.
#i go through phases where i'm kind of obsessed with star wars meta and discourse#so many people coming from pretty incompatible places all convinced that they're correct#and so mad at people on the other side#it's like a train wreck#on the one hand between the media aimed at kids#and the fact that george frequently chooses flow over characterization#(see: the movies do not hold up to a close read)#it's uh EXTREMELY EASY to make the argument that the jedi kind of suck if you're reading things from a watsonian perspective#and at a certain point even if you know that there are doyalist reasons for why some things are the way they are#there's so much that would have to be hand waved that you can't just use the doyalist excuse for everything#if you're trying to write fanfic#ON THE OTHER HAND#it's extremely obvious that some people are very uncomfortable#with the lack of nuclear families in the jedi order#and prefer other cultures *cough*mandalorians*cough* exclusively because they have something closer to a western family system#but the most fascinating are people who are extremely pro jedi#but like#also pull a shit ton of stuff out of the jedi apprentice books#for example#like... if you're considering those books canon in your fic then the jedi order is almost unsalvagable in a non YA context
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