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1 and 10 for the salty ask game?
im gonna do supergirl and LOK for this one bc they're my current brainrot
What OTPs in your fandom(s) do you just not get?
supergirl: pls dont come at me for this but i cannot see agent reign, i get the appeal, ive read fics with agentreign in them and they're super cute, but ive never personally been invested in them.
also, while i definitely think kara's had a crush on cat, i like them too much as a mentor/mentee to ever go near a supercat fic. (but i understand the appeal of both those ships)
legend of korra: mako x wu, i dont rly ship them but i think their dynamic is FUCKING hilarious. also ik its technically a:tla and not lok but i dont ship zukka, i love sukka too much, but i do prefer zukka over zutara. (fight me)
10. Most disliked arc? Why?
supergirl: guardiancorp. it felt so needless. i can come up with ten better ways they could've done the harun-el storyline without them getting into a relationship. i shipped pretty much anything the writers threw at us but i could NOT get behind lena x james at all. actually here's one i just thought of: james reveals he's guardian, lena starts helping him be a vigilante = lena and james form a bond and she uses the harun-el to save him bc shes a hero - OH imagine lena being overwatch!
actually, all of season 4 makes my blood boil - not bc i think it was a bad season, it was just too good at its job and i hated it for making me wanna rip my hair out every second. xenophobes taking over? lex luthor manipulating linda? alex loses her memories? the episode right after? the supercorp angst? oh my god the REVEAL?
10/10 would recommend, but you couldn't pay me to rewatch it.
legend of korra: no notes, just make more of it.
wait no if theres one thing i could change - its not the show its in the comics - kuvira's "redemption" arc. ma'am. you were literally a dictator and you tortured people. go on a year long trip to restore your honor. actually, scratch that, go on a meaningful road trip with each member of the beifong family (the apology tour). i do believe you can change but the rote arc felt too rushed - maybe end on a more open note instead of saying "thats it, she's redeemed!"
this one is also more a:tla: please PLEASE give my girl azula a redemption arc
thanks for the ask!
#i might do she-ra too tbh#and oh my god i have so much to say about supergirl s4#if i were ever to do a rewrite fic id prob start there#and no im not kidding ive never rewatched s4#in fact i always stop m rewatch of supergirl on s3ep7 and then i watch the whole crisis x and then i start watching from s5ep17#thats how much i hate supercorp angst#gay tape#supercorp#korrasami
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what are your arrowverse rarepairs?
okay so this is gonna be fun especially as i'm not sure what counts as a rarepair
ARROW
lauricity (laurel x felicity) <- the first words she said to laurel was 'gorgeous laurel' ok she was crushing hard
shasladiver?!?! (shado x oliver x slade + please tell me if they have another name) <- domestic. cute. island. trio. before. the. incident. "what's the worst way your ship has ever died" "oh so slade fake-died and then oliver accidentally murdered shado and then he appeared just as she died and she never knew he was alive so he held her dead body in his arms as oliver was forever shrouded in guilt then slade became corrupted from a drug and oliver had to kill him too but he wasn't really dead and came back for revenge"
smoaksiren (siren x felicity) <- i already ranted about this one i LOVE THEM.
terrificdog (rene x curtis) <- they're so gay and chaotic x nerdy duos are the best even dinah agrees
constanqueen (oliver x constantine) <- why was constantine so flirty to him in that one episode they probably hooked up let's be honest
smoakingcanary (felicity x sara) <- 'YOU'RE STILL CUTE'
alicity (felicity x alena) <- they were actually adorable oh my god
lauryssa (laurel x nyssa) <- supposed to be canon you can't convince me otherwise
(gotta love how much felicity ships are in there girlie has chemistry with everyone)
FLASH
coldflash (snart x barry) <- does this even count as a rarepair they're so popular i mean thematic parallels, red x blue, enemies to lovers, homo-erotic flirting
snowwest (iris x caitlin) <- lauricity coded also the entirety of 4x05
balph?!?! (barry x ralph) <- the entirety of s4. that's all.
blackfrost (frost x siren) <- they're each other in a different font just IMAGINE THE FUCKING POWER.
bulian?!? (barry x julian) <- enemies to lovers and just very sus moments in s3 that made me say 'hold up fruity'
snowfrost (caitlin x frost) <- new ship but oh my god its growing on me they're smoaksiren in a different font
(gotta love how barry is half of them he's so shippable)
SUPERGIRL
superwire (leslie x kara) <- dude they're so coldflash coded
agentreign (alex x sam) <- i still can't believe they're not canon
psiwire (psi x leslie) <- that one episode in s3. got me thinking thoughts.
superlane (kara x lucy) <- i shipped them so much in s1 oh my god
monwinn (mon-el x winn) <- bro has a thing for aliens
scholson (james x winn) <- nah bc this could lowkey work
superbat (kara x kate + is there another name?) <- kate was 1000% flirting with kara in the elseworlds crossover
LEGENDS OF TOMORROW
coldatom (ray x snart) <- snart has a type and it's self-righteous red coded dark haired boys
lovebirds (kendra x sara) <- this was so unexpected but like hello they trained together and she got sara back from the league
timehex (jonah x rip) <- actually no way u can convince me they aren't exes
whiteatom (sara x ray) <- they're so sweet and they're the time parents and so underrated
steelatom (nate x ray) <- bromance.
hellcanary (sara x constantine) <- hhhh i could rant so much bro but they get each other and they are friends with benefits and both have ties to demons and can understand each other's hurt and are chaotic bisexuals and-
atomhawkcanary (sara x ray x kendra) <- they lived together for like a year ok things probably happened.
thanks for asking!!!! damn there's a lot lol
#i usually go for rarepairs bc god forbid i ship something that has lots of content for me to consume#mine#fandom rant#arrow#the flash#supergirl#legends of tomorrow#my faves#im not tagging all of the ships my god#ask post
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mike wheeler NEW spotify playlist predictions
i already posted this about my predictions of new spotify playlists dropping tomorrow, and because i love to be proven right and need validation that i am correct, here is my predictions for a new mike playlist:
side note - if i do all of this and there is A. no new spotify playlists at all or B. everyone gets a new playlist BESIDES mike and will...... i will be mildly upset. anyways.
side side note: a lot of these are based on the music chart i made, so it's primarily 70s/80s music, but i know that the actual canon playlists dont care about time period accuracy... so. oh and also 90% these are from the playlists i've been working so long on so. sneak preview if you're interested in that ig
THE SONGS:
Paint It, Black - The Rolling Stones (1966)
so i know mike liking "darker" music is a highly debated topic. But the fact is that they made an effort to make mike look edgier, and ultimately i see them showcasing that in his new playlist. this one is a classic, the whole thing is a metaphor for depression, and i think it fits mike's s4 character arc perfectly.
Suburbia - Pet Shop Boys (1986)
A song about how boring/dull suburban life is. the key here is the last verse of the song: "Suburbia / where the suburbs met utopia / What kind of dream was this / so easy to destroy? And who are we to blame for the sins of the past? / These slums of the future? / suburbia" Up for interpretation, but i think what it's saying that suburban life is the "ideal" life, playing into the nuclear family theme, and how quickly it can crumble apart. obviously fits the wheeler family; perfect "utopian" image, but a closer look shows how distant the family is.
Bizarre Love Triangle - New Order (1986)
when i tell you this song has been on my mike wheeler playlist foreeeever. it's so so fitting. I can't even explain how fitting this song is so i'm just going to give you some lyrics:
"Livin' a life that I can't leave behind /There's no sense in telling me / The wisdom of the fool won't set you free /But that's the way that it goes and it's what nobody knows /Well, every day my confusion grows"
"I feel fine and I feel good /I'm feeling like I never should /Whenever I get this way, I just don't know what to say /Why can't we be ourselves like we were yesterday?"
I Want To Break Free - Queen (1984)
this one of many deceptively-coded songs i'm including on this list. at first glance it could be a mlvn song, but a closer examination makes you realize how byler coded it is. could be a double metaphor- wanting to break free from heteronormativity, but also maybe wanting to break free from vecna's curse.
Shake the Disease - Depeche Mode (1985)
(i'm the #1 believer in depeche mode fan mike btw, so if none of the new songs on his playlist are by them, i will be SO fucking disappointed.)
like i've said previously, deceptive song. the lyrics themselves have two possibly meanings: a man promising his girlfriend that he will give up a bad habit for her to "prove" his love for her. the other meaning: a man suffering from internalized homophobia. both are perfect for mike. i much prefer the internalized homophobia explanation, and that's the vibe i first got when hearing this song, but, yknow. they're vague enough to not spoil anything.
here's the lyrics, idk, let me know what you think their meaning is:
"Here is a plea from my heart to you /Nobody knows me as well as you do /You know how hard it is for me to shake the disease /That takes hold of my tongue in situations like these"
That's Really Super, Supergirl - XTC (1986)
this is a purely mlvn song. in essence, a song about a man in a relationship with a super hero, he feels like she's abandoning him and their relationship, and despite the fact that she has super powers and is saving the world, she cannot fix their relationship. super fucking fitting, if you ask me.
Telephone Line - Electric Light Orchestra (1976)
not sure if it's quite his genre, but by god if the lyrics don't fit. honestly, i will go insane if they include any song with mention of a phone call in the lyrics. anyways, the song is about a guy trying to call his ex, who never picks up. heres some lyrics:
"Are you still the same? /Don't you realize the things we did, we did /Were all for real, not a dream? /I just can't believe /They've all faded out of view"
Out in the Cold - Judas Priest (1986)
dipping our toes into some metal here. basically a song about a guy who has been left by his lover, and he calls for them to come back for him. could play into mike's insecurities, and also foreshadow him being a damsel-in-distress next season.
Homosapien - Pete Shelley (1981)
okay, so this one is kind of a joke. i'm putting this on here ONLY TO SAY: this is the gayest possible song i can think of them putting on mike's playlist. like mike wheeler's days as a heterosexual are fucking over with if this song graces his playlist. do i really expect it to? no. but do i hope it does? yes.
Where Did Our Love Go? - Soft Cell (1981)
title is pretty itself is self-explanatory. can be a mlvn or byler song.
Good Old-Fashioned Lover Boy - Queen (1976)
fuck it, another gay song i don't realistically see them adding but i want them to anyway.
Bringin' On The Heartbreak - Def Leppard (1981)
mlvn song. kind of goes into how mike is giving el the "best" of him, but it's still not good enough. yea.
I Could Show You How - Naked Eyes (1983)
another deceptive byler-coded song. gonna just give you the lyrics:
"You've been away for so long /You walked out on me /There's no communication /No letters for me /And I wish that I could break this chain of reaction /Turn my feelings into action"
Still Loving You - Scorpions (1984)
do not let the heterosexual couple on the cover of this album fool you, i did pick this for byler. you could view it from a mlvn lens for sure, though that was not my intent.
"Yes, I've hurt your pride /And I know what you've been through /You should give me a chance /This can't be the end"
Don't Let Me Down - The Beatles (1970)
The lyrics may appear somewhat romanitic at first, but the way that they're sung, and with how many times they repeat, they begin to sound like either a cry for help or like they're trying to convince themselves they are true. i do consider this a mlvn song.
Senseless - Erasure (1986)
michael wheeler gay yearning ost
Why Can't This Be Love? - Van Halen (1986)
originally thought this would be a mlvn song but surprise, it's a byler song because it's about unrequited love
Better by You, Better Than Me - Judas Priest (1978)
(this particular song has an extremely controversial history but i picked it only because i liked the lyrics lol.)
basically, this song is about a guy telling his friend to tell his lover how he feels because he feels his friend can do a better job of conveying it.
That's the Way (I Like It) - Dead or Alive (1984)
you can put any dead or alive song here tbh they're all gonna serve the same purpose of being extremely gay, i just liked this one the best
Oh! Darling - The Beatles (1969)
a song pleading for a girl to not leave. the lyrics make whatever relationship was at stake sound very co-dependent. paul really strains his vocal chords to sing this one, which adds to the intensity of the pleas.
"When you told me, you didn't need me anymore /Well, you know I nearly broke down and cried /When you told me, that you didn't need me anymore /Well, you know I nearly fell down and died"
Ordinary World - Duran Duran (1993)
a song more mike wheeler-coded has never existed. if this was time period-accurate mike wheeler would be crying his eyes out to this DO YOU HEAR ME?
one of many fitting lyrics from this song:
"What is happening to me? /Crazy, some'd say /Where is my friend when I need you most? /Gone away"
It Doesn't Matter - Depeche Mode (1984)
moody song about a man lamenting the loss of his romantic love despite his feelings still remaining. i consider it a byler song, jealous and depressed mike vibes for sure.
"I am happy that I have you /Even though you're not here now /I know somewhere you are dreaming /Though it's definitely not of me"
and that's basically it! i have just a couple more, but these are my top contenders. the duffer brothers personally owe me 5 dollars for anyone i do get right btw
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Hey hey! I have two characters for you:
Asami Sato 👀👀 for 1, 11, and 13
and Marley Rose for 3, 5, and 12
ilu!!!
Asami Sato
1. My first impression of them
*tries to sift through 10-year old media reaction memories* Disclaimer that I was in the thick of my "tumblr-girl-cynic" days 😂 Anyway, I'm pretty sure my first thought was "oh noooo a stereotypically pretty female character's going to be introduced to start one of those hetero-nonsense love triangles :( " (past me would flip to find out about what happens to her later in the series 😂)
For Asami as a character specifically tho, I think my very first impression was that she was nice! I enjoyed how friendly and kind she was, and that it was also very sexy of her to be so smart. I was just really hoping she wouldn't be revealed to be an antagonist (which, thank god, didn't happen haha)
11. What’s the first thing you think about when thinking about the character?
Her with her steampunk goggles on, flipping her hair 😍
13. Your favorite friendship they have
All of her friendships in The Krew are A++ 😌 That said, if I had to choose--I'll go with the underrated Bolin x Asami duo! I love the thought of hyperactive Bolin being all ridiculous, and then Asami's there vibing (until she lets herself have some fun and starts getting ridiculous too ahahah). (Also, them playing Pai Sho is just so damn cute haha)
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Marley Rose
3. A song that reminds me of them
I was going to go with a song she'd sung, but that's a total cop-out, so I'll have to go with Superboy and the Invisible Girl from Next to Normal!
(That said, the reasoning isn't that good 😅 Basically, the title reminds me of Supergirl, and like ya know, it's Melissa Benoist...I guess you can also say that Marley intially had quite the wallflower vibes, hence calling her the Invisible Girl could be somewhat appropriate?)
5. My favorite ship of them
I loved Season 4 Jarley so much 🥺🥺🥺 It killed me that they had to do a Glee and have Jake cheat on her 🙄 ((There was no point except that the writers were too mediocre to think of a way to introduce conflict in their relationship that wasn't infidelity :///))
Any way, completely ignoring Season 5, I just think they were so sweet and tender 😭 One thing that really gets me--since I'm an asexual person with an allo partner--is that Jake's such a sexual being, but he's so patient with Marley who's super hesitant about sex (and during S4 even gave me the impression that he'd give that all up to be with her ToT) Just gonna copy-paste something from a comment on your Ace Week Headcanons post on reddit from a couple of months back (pls let me know if you don't want me to link to ur reddit tho HAHA):
There's nothing wrong honestly if for allos sexual intimacy is a non-negotiable, but I also like to think that the love found and gained from the other aspects of one's relationship can be worth enough to leave something important to them like that behind.
Like, S4 Jarley really gave off those vibes for me ToT
12. Sexuality hc!
Biromantic (sex-negative) ace 🖤🤍💜
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I haven’t had a chance to watch 5.17 again yet, but some initial thoughts.
1st things 1st, there were some sublime choices from Melissa Benoist as the Director. I have a couple of screen captures of the ones that immediately spring to mind. She definitely showed her nuanced understanding of the characters, and that really was so fantastic to see. She deserves another shot in the directors chair in S6 if she wants to (& it sounds from interviews as if it is something she’d like to have chance to do more of). Even without understanding the characters, some of the lighting & overall framing of shots were so good! From lighting to just mirroring chess board pieces. I loved it. I felt the Eve fight scene was pretty masterful.
The episode itself. Whilst it did give up a couple of twists (the most major being Lex set up Jeremiah’s death), honestly it fell pretty flat for a number of different reasons.
My biggest problem (& this isn’t new for me), is that Lex’s behaviour was entirely predictable. That all bar a couple of plot points weren’t things that the fandom haven’t already talked about in one way or another almost Ad nauseam.
A big part for me was this flashback episode leaves us with no more truly relevant details on things than before the episode began.
Lex setting up Leviathan? Knew he was going to do it, this is Lex we are talking about.
Lex manipulating Lena, especially against Kara. C’mon, you’d have to be either blind, or in denial this has been going on for months on his manipulation of Lena. Yes, she should realise he is doing it, but again, Lena (as even Mon-El mentions) is the product of her abusive family. That doesn’t simply disappear!
Eve - we knew she was back, so again no real surprise on Lex manipulating her. Again (oh and side note. If you’re going to hate on Lena for ‘killing’ people & say her manipulation by Lex doesn’t excuse her, but don’t say the same thing about Eve, who killed outright for both Leviathan and Lex, your hypocritical hatred of Lena is showing. Check yourself at the door).
Lillian. She had already admitted she wasn’t Earth 38 Lillian to Lex from the award ceremony dialogue. So again, it wasn’t a surprise.
Honestly I could keep going, but you get the picture.
With only 2 episodes left, (& even had it been a full 3 episodes as I expect them to perhaps try and extend 5.19 into a longer one, perhaps over 1.5 hours instead of the usual hour schedule), we still have no clear answers on anything. Leviathan? Nothing was added to their story, and considering they were supposed to be the big villain of S5, only Lex has been that so far. And when you have an episode that does nothing more than we saw in S4, to ‘expose’ Lex ..... news flash. We know all this about him.
What we don’t know is who leads Leviathan? Who else is part of the organisation? We practically know nothing about them.
I felt this episode would’ve been better placed after Winn’s first episode (I’ve said I felt having him over that 2 episode arc was a waste, as again that 2nd episode did absolutely nothing plot wise that couldn’t have been added in the 1st episode, & the 1st episode didn’t add a lot either! I’m not saying don’t bring Winn back, but make it relevant & not 2 filler episodes). To have it done so late in the season makes zero sense to me. It feels messy.
On to William Dey. I’m not even going to try & pretend I like the character. I absolute despise him, & not because of trying to be Kara’s LI. I despise him, because once again we had him in scenes that others should have been in, especially Alex at the beginning. She is supposedly working with J’onn, and while I get they might not want her around Lex, have her working remotely from the tower, sending that information from the video clip to J’onn and Kara. After all, she did that from the DEO. J’onn has all that computing power & I’ve yet to see it used to any full potential.
I also found it strange William just walked up to Kara & J’onn as if they’re best of buddies, but we have nothing to suggest he knows Kara is Supergirl. I hate he has that level of familiarity with them. It again feels rushed & disjointed & totally wrong for any of the characters. Failing having Alex working it, how about having Nia, who again I keep repeating, is an actual reporter, but also as Dreamer could help scout out & report back in with them all back at the Tower.
I also found the wording Lex used to Eve in regards William. "Activate William."
So activate how exactly? Sure they got him working as a journalist, but how? Through clues being sent to him? Is he under some kind of control? I can think of a host of different ways to phrase that, but activate? That sounds an awful lot like some kind of manipulation that is far more than straight forward sending William some clues is about.
And about this. William is a Nobel Prize winning Journalist, & yet not once has he been able to do anything without someone giving him the heads up! I know some journalism requires that, but constantly? If he is so good at his job, he should be finding more than dead ends. It grates like crazy.
Then he simply arrives at Kara’s with sympathy baked goodies - only to then launch into needing help over what he has found. There is a time & a place for that kind of thing. That was neither the time nor the place. I know Lex wanted to get Leviathan on board with his plan, & needed to show they were about to get Supergirl looking at them far too closely, but really? Just no. He could’ve met Kara at CatCo. Met Kelly at Obsidean. Texted or called Kara to check it was okay to drop by her apartment even. But doing so unannounced, when he knows Kara & Alex have just lost their father? It also grates.
Now onto Kelly - lovely to see her supporting Alex - and Kara - after the loss of Jeremiah. But does she know Kara is Supergirl? We still don’t know for certain! The inference in this episode is Kelly does know, as William tells them about the warehouse, then Kelly & Alex are at the tower with J’onn in the same outfits, as Supergirl lands, stating there was nothing at the warehouse. So yes, it is highly likely Kelly now knows. But how or when did she know. It’s these kind of details most fans actual want, not to have to make educated guesses on! This is a reason fans get frustrated. We were being told who used to get to know Supergirl’s identity, but now with Kelly, nothing! And people wonder why fans feel the LGBTQ characters are getting shortchanged this season. It isn’t just about lack of screen time. It’s about lack of depth of story, when previously they had people falling over themselves to show how they knew Kara was Supergirl.
Another example of this lack of depth or explanation is Brainy. Sure he is likely doing what he is because of future Brainy’s warning, but it still comes across as Brainy seemingly stupid considering his apparent intellect. We have been thrown these plot lines, but they’re then left for us to have to fill in the blanks as each episode airs, as we’re not getting them otherwise.
It is far too chaotic for my liking.
So once again my overriding sense after watching this episode is frustration. It still feels like a total mess, with no answers (& even if they give us those answers, 3 episodes - now 2 - would be nowhere near enough time to do it without rushing. It even felt rushed at times in this episode).
William continues to be an absolute waste of space, (and God do I feel sorry for Staz over this), taking perfectly good screen time away from other already established characters, who could do what he has just as easily.
The Kara and Lena push & pull is giving us nothing new! Nothing. It’s gone well past giving us angst to us having had enough. Like with Lex, they seem to have gone too far with a good thing, & now rather than enjoying it, the majority simply hate it. With a passion. I am sick to the back teeth with it. Lena deserves to finally be rid of this villain tag, & given her rightful place back with the Superfriends (after a damn sit down talk with Kara - not Supergirl - and get on some level ground for good this time). I don’t expect a miraculous friendship rebuilt in seconds, but I do want actual forward progress between them to stick. Not 1 step forward, 2 steps back. I certainly don’t want this carrying on into S6, or at least not without resolving more than this.
In all the 5 seasons I’ve watched Supergirl, I don’t think there has ever been such underlying anger or frustration on how the season has panned out, both from fans & media alike. The disconnect from the fans to the show is huge right now, & really I cannot understand how the end of S4, which was seen as a real step forward for the show, to the excitement of S5, & how it was being portrayed; to this.
I want so much to be able to sit here & write positively over the episodes generally, but too often this season I’ve not been able to do it. I feel so sorry for the cast, because I know they love the show so much, and I want nothing more than to be writing positively about it each episode, but I simply can’t do that.
So in conclusion.
Phenomenal directing by Melissa Benoist.
Complete & utter frustration & disconnect everywhere else.
#supergirl#kara danvers#lgbtq#chyler leigh#alex danvers#azie tesfai#katie mcgrath#nicole maines#kelly olsen#supercorp#brainy#david harewood#j’onn j’onzz#m’gann m’orzz#white martian#green martian#lena luthor#lex luthor#jon cryer#lillian luthor#brenda strong#jesse rath
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So what issues would you like them to tackle that hasn’t already been done on the show before?
(I just want to say this is my first ask ever and I've been here since... God maybe 2013? So thank you!!)
I would LOVE to see a new dimension to sexuality. I'm also casually of the team that's "Sara herself should say Bisexual" because Bisexual has only been said once on screen and Nate said it casually.. We have a scene where Sara says tells Nurse Lindsay that Lesbian isn't a bad word yet the show kinda doesn't act that way about Bi. Bi erasure is an issue that would be interesting-- since Sara is with Ava, it would be neat to have some line of "i didn't pick a team" or just along the lines of Still Bi With A Woman.
(They also missed an opertunity with Charlie to use neutral pronouns of some kind)--> a discussion further on gender identity would be cool too. There are casual set ups for this with Charlie, like in the Shakespeare episode, but nothing is ever really taken completely seriously or honestly even explicitly. I would really enjoy a nonbinary or intersex narrative in this particular context because I feel like the team of legends (as the people the characters are) would fit really nicely with that. But it would be cool to have a trans character that Gideon helps? Because the arrowverse trans character (in Supergirl-- Nia) is already transitioned. It would be cool to have a transitioning characer in a really casual way even (a particular scenario would be New Character leaving sickbey while someone else walks in. Other person asked if New is feeling OK and New just says like "oh yeah, just my hormones.). But yeah anything with gender identity.
I always hunger for more disability stories, but based on how they Wrote Sara's blindness... yikes. I remember watching a panel or something on YouTube about how Caity was hoping that Sara was at least going to have a cane or be shown to struggle with some stuff, but the writers ignored all of that. So its kind of touchy based on that but I think it would be really neat to have someone with a prosthetic (or even just an amputation, someone born without a limb, etc.)-- it would be a beautiful narrative about 'Gideon can literally grow you a new arm' and that character firmly saying no, this is me, having this difference doesn't make me less, you aren't "fixing" me because I'm not broken, I like myself, etc, whatever.
I know that for me personally one of the best things about the show is that Sara and Ava don't have to come out, and everyone just treats them like normal, but I think some kind of homophobia narrative would be good, not to a big extent but just to the extent like in S1 when Kendra and Ray move in 1950s and that dynamic only with the girls. Like, for the show to acknowledge homophobia in such a direct way, as they did with interracial relationships. This beyond the obvious homophobia of the Nazis. (I personally can't think of an aspect where its implied, but sometimes I can miss or misinterpret implicated stuff like that).
I would love to see a return to POC cultures and narratives (narratives outside of racism) S1 with Kendra and Carter and the Egyptian culture aspect, Amaya and Zambesi aspect. We see a tad bit of this with Zari and the bollywood scene, and Japan post WW2, but they are more side aspects now. It would be neat to go to India or other places in southeast Asia (culturally), or Central/South America. Overall, I would just like to see more of that cultural aspect because human culture is something that interests me a lot and I feel like can be easily casually thrown in with time travel--- traditional clothes, buildings, and ideals (an example of the ideals is the discussion in feudal Japan about the cultures views on death).
I feel like there was a lot of potential with Hank and Sara to continue that discussion about women in power. Yes, we have discussed this before. We do it a lot in second season with the JSA and even Jonah Hex but I think Hank had a lot of potential to add a dimension to that discussion. (honestly see next paragraph for more). That whole episode with the Minotaur i would have loved if they'd been a bit more explicit with that-- yes, obviously a woman can be in charge (in Hanks mind) but he has the right to walk in there and take over because her experience doesn't matter and also we will do whatever he wants. Sara spends almost the whole time just rolling her eyes and bitting her tongue besides a light quip in the beginning asking if a girls ever punched him. in the past Sara has literally exerted dominance over men so I was just kind of disappointed with that dynamic. I love the character of Sara as an "unconventional woman" or a "strange friend" and I've noticed comments like that pretty much stopped after the 3rd season. I know some people hated those comments but I think they can be good. I enjoyed them and would like to see them again because it's literally just Sara being unapologetically herself, a strong woman, doing whatever she does, no matter how weird or unconventional it is. (Which is an integral part of Saras character to me)
BUT its also not necessarily "new" issues. Issues don't go away in real life-- we had multiple issues about Race in America with Jax, from different points in history (Slavery and the 1950s). Jax even mentions how he still experiences Rascism today. The issues don't go away and just because they are mentioned once doesn't mean they can't (and shouldn't) be examined from other points in history. IE just because the show has talked about it before doesn't mean we can't talk about it again from a different angle and/or perspective.
I see a lot of potential with Astra with the racism thing (people are nicer to me in literal Hell) but it also would have been interesting with Mona, to show a different type of racism would have been INCREDIBLE.
I also can think of maybe a scene or two that would have just been a nice touch with Zari (either one, but I have a soft spot for Zari 1.0, and I think with her life as an illegal Muslim would have been an enriching perspective) as a Muslim. They are very good to her character in the way that she obviously abstains from Liquor and Pork, and observes Ramadan. But one thing that would have been interesting is for Zari to experience early 2000s (or honesty still right now) xenophobia. Especially Z1 since being a Muslim is Illegal in 2045 there was a lot of emotional potential there. (Although I feel like I can understand why the writers didn't want to touch that because of current conflicts).
Since we're going to outer space (that was actually confirmed right? Or was it just hinted and I misread??), I think issues will have to be character driven rather than time period driven. But therin we have a lot of potential-- a race of aliens without distinct genders (wait, so your worth can be dictated based off of your genitals?? Plus sexuality stuff there), aliens confused about race (I don't understand some of your skins are different colors... and your people treat each other differently based on this?). We could introduce a matriarchal society, which the crew with Captain Lance feel particularly unphased by. Perhaps we have a completely pacifist society or aliens made of inorganic materials (debates about what constitutes as alive, what lives are meaningful, etc.) You get the idea(I adore star trek so you can imagine my glee thinking about some of those scenarios).
I think for me, the hard shift to comedy was at the expense of some of my favorite aspects of the show and also things that set it apart. This Found Family is so rewarding because they are all so so different but those differences enrich each other. They become better people and feel at home without having to change who they fundamentally are. And they are whoever they want to be. I feel like now the show has simply had an incredibly jarring tone shift thats trying too hard to be a comedy. (This one is just an opinion but a joke among all the serious is always just a lot more funny to me. I find myself laughing more at one liners and random stuff in the early seasons. Now it feels like 'ok, what's the next ridiculous thing.')
I think... humanity is pretty dark. But humanity also rises above. This is why I adore the episode from post WW2 Japan and to me it personally really stands out from other episodes in s4/s5. The idea of creating and destroying, pain and sadness locked inside, terror and hatred for the beings you share the planet with. That pain creates monsters. Sometimes by accident. (Sara's pain turned her into the version of herself she called a monster.). And also about embracing your passions (Mick hiding his writing). In that episode, we still have jokes about Godzilla. Garima appears and its hilarious. But it's also an incredibly powerful narrative about pain and fear and shame and gives a perspective that the western audience wouldnt... necessarily think about (the actual consequences and what the bomb actually literally did.).
That darkness makes the light so much more meaningful. If everything becomes light... than why are we still fighting?
Sorry if this is jumbled, I'm on mobile so.
Also, sorry if this is a rant or whatever. I am very passionate about this topic and oh boy if I was on a computer and had the time I'd probably repondd with a link to a doc.
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5 show meme thing
I was tagged by my lovely @outside-the-government! I’m like a week late doing this, but still. Thanks babe! ^^
Pick 5 shows, then answer the following questions. don’t cheat. tag 10 (or however many) peeps.
Shadowhunters
Rizzoli & Isles
Wynonna Earp
Miss Fisher’s Murder Mysteries
Supergirl
1. who is your favorite character in 2?
(Rizzoli & Isles) Maura Isles <3
2. who is your least favorite character in 1?
(Shadowhunters) Heidi something or other. Ugh.
3. what is your favorite episode of 4?
(Miss Fisher) Oh god there’s SO many good episodes. I think 1x13 “King Memses’ Curse” and 2x13 “Murder Under the Mistletoe” are major favourites, but the whole series is just so damn good, there’s not even a bad episode.
4. what is your favorite season of 5?
(Supergirl) Season 2!! Gay panic Alex is the best and the show was just so good, plus Lena. But also season 1 was really good too, with much more dynamic characters (anti hero Max Lord and the amazing Cat Grant being the two that appear in my head first. Also Astra was amazing).
5. who is your favorite couple in 3?
(Wynonna Earp) Wayhaught of course (Waverly/Nicole).
6. who is your favorite couple in 2?
(Rizzoli & Isles) There aren’t really many established couples in Rizzoli & Isles but of course I ship Maura/Jane. 8D
7. what is your favorite episode of 1?
(Shadowhunters) Ummm that’s a good question tbh. Idk, not a lot of episodes really stand out on their own for me, but I did enjoy 2x06 “Iron Sisters” and 3x10 “Erchomai”.
8. what is your favorite episode of 5?
(Supergirl) Oh man, there’s so many specific moments I love in Supergirl but I’m not sure about whole episodes. Anything with a lot of Alex or Lena is usually a good start lmao. Hm okay a few that stand out: 2x19 “Alex”, 2x18 “Ace Reporter”, 1x16 “Falling” and 1x20 “Better Angels”. Also many of the moments between Sam and Alex (and Ruby) in S3 are amazing and Alex and Lena in S4.
9. what is your favorite season of 2?
(Rizzoli & Isles) Well, I’m only up to 4 as of now, but the whole show is freaking amazing. I think Season 3 is my favourite so far, but there hasn’t been a bad episode of that show yet either!!!
10. how long have you watched 1?
(Shadowhunters) Only since last year, I think? Maybe 2 years? Not super long.
11. how did you become interested in 3?
(Wynonna Earp) Honestly I saw a crapton of gifs and was in love with Nicole before I even watched the show lmao. Red headed, badass lesbian? Count me the fuck in. Also the show seemed hilarious and action packed and I do not regret a single moment lmao
12. who is your favorite actor in 4?
(Miss Fisher) Ohh hmm good question, they’re all so good. Essie Davis is incredible as Phryne, but Ashley Cummings is so good as Dot, and I adore Nathan Page (Jack). Also the actors who play Mr. Butler, Bert, Cec, and Mac are all amazing too. They’re just all so good, okay?!
13. which do you prefer, 1, 2, or 5?
(Shadowhunters, Rizzoli & Isles or Supergirl). Goddamn, um... well they’re all SO different. Shadowhunters is practically pure fantasy, Supergirl is a healthy dose of fantasy mixed with ‘reality’ and R&I is reality-based. Supergirl has also seriously gone up and down in quality over its run, which makes me hesitate to pick it as an overall favourite. Shadowhunters has some weak plots and some weak characters but also some good plots and some amazing characters, which balances it out a bit. Rizzoli & Isles has very strong characters and some pretty enticing plot lines, with linear character arcs as well as the ‘crime of the week’ formula.
I suppose if I HAD to choose I’d choose Rizzoli & Isles but I’m not 100% sure if that’s because I genuinely like the show more or if it’s because it’s my newest obsession and I’m kind of consumed by it right now 😂
14. which show have you seen more episodes of, 1 or 3 ?
(Wynonna Earp / Shadowhunters) Um well they have the same amount of seasons so far but Shadowhunters has more episodes, so that one.
15. if you could be anyone from 4, who would you be?
(Miss Fisher) Probably Dot. Although maybe not because Hugh sucks. Maybe Phryne?
16. would a crossover between 3 and 4 work?
(Wynonna Earp / Miss Fisher) No, unless someone found a way to time travel haha
17. pair two characters in 1 who would make an unlikely but strangely okay couple.
(Shadowhunters) Ummm Clary/Izzy. Unlikely because I don’t think either of them is canonically queer, but I think they would work well together <3
18. overall, which show has the better storyline, 3 or 5?
(Wynonna Earp / Supergirl) Oh wow, um... I don’t know, honestly. They both have pretty solid and pretty bad storylines lmao. As far as entertainment goes, I’d say Wynonna Earp. Coherent-wise, I’d say Supergirl, but I’ve also disliked a lot of the writers’ choices over the last two seasons, so I still think Wynonna Earp wins.
19. which has the better theme music, 2 or 4
(Rizzoli & Isles / Miss Fisher) Well, both themes are just instrumental, so that makes them easier to compare. As much as I enjoy the Rizzoli and Isles’ theme, I think Miss Fisher definitely deserves the win here. The Miss Fisher’s Murder Mysteries theme is hella catchy!
Tagging: I have no idea who has and hasn’t done this by this point so please, if you want to do this, consider yourself tagged by me! And tag me back so I can see your answers! <3
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how about two top fives? top five characters you werent supposed to like but you did and top five characters you were supposed to like but didnt
Ooh nice I really have to think about this! And I hope this is what you meant but I took this to be what the narrative wanted you to like and/or who fandom likes a lot
Characters I Wasn’t Supposed to Like But Did:
I remember when I started Buffy, I saw that fandom had hated Dawn and I was going in prepared to be like, oh man, I’m probably gonna hate her too I wonder why she’s so annoying what does she do? And then I watched and I just…didn’t get it? I understood why she wouldn’t be anyone’s top 5 but I absolutely adored her and she was tied for #1 favorite character for me
Probably Cersei Lannister lmao. She was a massive bitch and I was rooting for her death the whole time, but god she was one of the most fun characters to watch and I loved to hate her so much that she’d go on screen and I’d be like “YESSSSS”
People really hated Carl from TWD and I think that’s lessened a lot nowadays but man I always adored that kid. I know he had his annoying moments but I absolutely adored him and he’s the only reason I ever continued on with the show after Glenn died.
I’m going to be honest. I really don’t hate Ross from Friends. Yeah he’s pretty shitty and his views are outdated af (maybe even for the 90s?) but I thought he was a funny character and honestly, I thought that with the exception of Phoebe they were all kind of shitty characters (Chandler made fun of Monica’s weight multiple times from a friend to being her husband and was with Cathy while she was with Joey, Monica assumed a maid was stealing from her, etc.). Also side note, Ted from HIMYM annoys me a lot but honestly I didn’t go through the show hating him. I went through the show with him as my least favorite each season and being far more invested in Swarkles and their story, but I ultimately did stick through the show to hear his story, and to see how he may have grown in order to find and be with Tracy - and when he met her I was happy not only because we finally saw how he met the Mother, but because he was finally with his soulmate (until the show fucked it up, of course). But anyway, idk, as much as I love Swarkles and the other characters, I don’t think I would have been able to follow the show if I hated the main character and wasn’t invested in him finding happiness
Kali from Stranger Things. Her story was underdeveloped, sure, but I’m hoping to see more of her in the coming seasons and I’m going to be real, I feel like if she was played by someone like Dacre Montgomery fans would have been raaaaving about how amazing Kali was and how they were excited to see more of Kali in the future.
Characters I Was Supposed to Like But Didn’t:
Michael Cordero from JTV. I actually started out liking him, just not wanting him and Jane together, because - and don’t get me wrong before I say anything; Rafael has messed up too, but the extent Michael did things was on a far greater scale to ruin a relationship forever IMO. He made a plan with Petra for her to get Jane’s baby, even when Jane wasn’t sure, he was directly responsible for Mateo getting kidnapped - which wasn’t his intention, but later when Rafael reported him, Michael knew this, went undercover, and still initiated a fight with Rafael saying that he got him fired, and did this while Rafael was right next to his infant son, who ended up getting hurt. Then he continued to just stalk Jane afterwards, and I just couldn’t understand how a character like Jane, who despite being so full of love and forgiveness still loves her son above all else, was with and married a man who tried to get him out of her life and directly hurt him. The more I watched the more I disliked him, and I hated the bad implication of fans ramping up Rafael to be evil while Michael was the “good guy” who “deserved” Jane (and there’s a bad implication there that even though both characters are white, most of fandom didn’t realize Rafael wasn’t a man of color until recently, and that Michael was literally portrayed and shown as Jane’s “white knight” in the narrative).
Maggie from Supergirl. I tried really hard but I just couldn’t, and I’m going to be honest I think it’s most likely just because I was both really starting to dislike Supergirl and also because I was majorly annoyed at the whole Fl*riana Lima situation, and while I tried not to let it affect how I saw the character, I usually couldn’t look at Maggie after a while without feeling vaguely annoyed - so that’s honestly much less about the writing and me not being able to separate character from actor in that case to be completely completely honest
Trish from JJ. IDK if the show cares if we like her but the fandom adores her and I’m just….eh. I didn’t care about her in the first season (I disliked that she tried going with Jessica even though it was something that made Jessica vulnerable, and that fandom consistently pushed Trish up and would bash Luke) and in the second season she just got much worse to me. I’m not watching s3 unless JJ comes back on Disney plus but from what I’ve heard, I’m not going to like her there either. And I don’t think any of it is OOC from the Trish we’ve seen in the show tbh. I hated her more with each episode, but each progression seemed natural (for the show they’ve written, not what the comic counterpart is because I can’t speak to that at all)
Dany from GOT. Unlike with Trish, even though I started hating Dany from like….season 5 onwards (although by s4 I was starting to get kind of annoyed) I am still on the crowd that she (like most characters) was written massively poorly in season 8. I think it could have been a natural progression for her to have been a mad queen, but the show rushed it and made a huge jump that her character shouldn’t have made with the story that they wrote. That being said, her being a mad queen didn’t surprise me and while I still love book Dany, show Dany was a huge white savior and watching almost every POC die for her story while she was touted as a feminist icon was………………………eh
Kurt from Glee ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh my god I hated him. He was a massive hypocrite most of the time (I mean everyone was but he really grinded my gears) and after like 2 seasons he always seemed to act like he was better than everyone. Honestly insert him, Rachel (half the time), and Will in here and I like…did not like them
put “top 5” anything in my ask and i will answer
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