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pyropansy · 28 days ago
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Companies are always like "we value you! You need to take care of your mental health!" And then when you call out because you can't stop crying and don't know why and snapped at a customer (because it's the anniversary of your father's death where you held him as he slowly died and your body had a trauma response without you even realizing it) its "oh you let down the team. You've only worked here a month, you're not allowed to call out!" And then they write you up for it. Despite the store manager saying "yeah, you don't sound like yourself. You should stay home."
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dojae-huh · 8 months ago
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Hello! Just want to say again that I'm glad I found your blog, your down-to-earth commentary, especially about the business side of it all, is very much appreciated :)
Hi. Thank you for letting me know, I'm glad you find some more down to earth posts useful. In part, I run this blog to offer an alternative in fandom experience.
Thing is, we, as k-pop fans and as people who don't work in showbusiness or South Korea, don't have enough knowledge, experience or inside information to have a strong educated opinion on most of things when it comes to idol companies and their executives. We can have opinions as customers - I like this music, this promotional strategy works on me, these outfits are ugly, this concept rocks -, but not as business analytics. Especially considering how much media play, false information and difference in cultures we face.
However, nowadays everyone has the illusion that they know better, that their opinion and feelings are valid when it comes to any topic. And spread and defend their opinion like it is the ultimate truth.
I've recently come across a twit starting with "it appears that" and ending with "for sure". In a span of a few sentences the fan offered an imaginary scenario and finished with a "this is truth". Of course to "prove" that SM is evil, heh. Such baseless statements easily play on fans' love for their biases, evoke an emotional response, call to arms, they give an answer to "Who is to blame?!", provide a target for unleashing frustration and anger.
When one solo-stan blames our bias, we can call bullshit because we know how things really are. When a fan blames Chris Lee or SM, other fans are ready to accept the words as believeable. Either because they share the sentiment, or have no own opinion on the matter, so any will do. If everyone around says the same thing, it should be true, afterall? That's how our brains are wired: follow the majority, agree with the tribe, mirror everyone's current emotion.
We can't see the inner works and we don't know the inner rules, but we can see the results of labour and sometimes a reflection of things.
When I came to k-pop, I knew SM as the company that overworks its artists, has lawsuits with them, is super strict. Broken in two halves TVXQ and EXO with half of its members gone weren't a good representation. So when I started to get to know NCT better, I started to wonder if I was lied to or that something had changed in SM (the latter). Neos were taught how to songwrite, SM persisted with good quality music for NCT despite the group not taking off right away, artists not looking slavelike, there was SMstation and interesting projects.
Sure, I can observe bad work: poorly prepared concerts (Link), constant failures with album production (omitting Doyoung's name, boring designs for 127), tasteless stylists, etc. However, I also see good work: artists flying first/business class and living in 5 star hotels, being given opportunity to go to the beach, museums, to enjoy sightseeing in new countries; opportunity to explore one's creativity (soundcloud, NCTLabs, solo performances for Link); SM giving artists second professions (MC, variety host, model) that will aid professional longevity (Doyoung hasn't finished school and doesn't have a degree, but I'm not worried for him, even if SM collapses, he'll always find a job. Same for Taeyong, he came as a blank page, now he is a songwriter and a producer, he can even become a choreographer); neos progressively being given more choice and say, their opinion being consulted and their ideas being implemented once they gain enough experience (Golden Dust story, Taeyong making his own setlist for his concert, Doyoung saying Unity should not have solo-stages, Ten choosing the mood and genre for his solo, etc).
Most importantly, I can see many friendships between neos and producers/managers, and that Haechan and Doyoung, who experienced all of SM's downsides personally and not once, continue to like the company. Meaning, the good should outweight the bad. At least for now.
Fans learnt the name of Chris Lee and continue to blame him for everything to this day, although he doesn't own any shares in SM and has stopped being a CEO a year ago. He is a token scapegoat.
Should I blindly trust fans or should I go read Wikipedia, interviews and listen to the guy himself? In situations like these I always choose the latter.
Sure, I can't tell if he evades taxes or participates in shady business, and what neos think of him (aside from Doyoung calling him "hyung" in public and not being afraid of getting punished for it), but I can see he was the person who overlooked all the early NCT songs (we have "Limitless", "Cherry bomb" thanks to him); created SMStation and SMClassics (say thank you for "Try again", "Star blossom"); found Dem Jointz ("Kick it", "Punch", "Sticker") and multiple other songwriters who now work for SM; brought to Korea the idea of songwriting camps, in which Kun participates nowadays and where he befriends foreign creators; invested SM money into a publishing company (and not a winery or a hotel business), which means SM artists will be secured to have a lot of songs to choose from in the future, and Korean young producers will have access to the global market. He has been with SM close to 20 years, and he is evidently a music nerd, ergo he understands artists and their love for music. So why should I hate him? I have no proof of him taking money away from neos, but I have evidence he was very essential to formation of NCT and the quality of SM sound being maintained. On the contrary, I'm inclined to suspect the quality of albums (song setlist, production) is raising again because he is back to supervising A&R in SM.
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orangesaek · 2 years ago
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The Grape scenario was so cute 🥺🥺🥺 Could I request one where you are Rino's sister-in-law (like your older brother married her younger sister) and went to visit Korea where she invited you to the dreamies concert rehearsal and you met the boys. But one particular boy seems smitten with you, I don't mind whichever member 😅
Ps: Rino is their tour/concert planner but I'm sure you know her from the Dream Sketch episodes
^^ https://youtu.be/skHn-gpH0bg
omg omg of course, rino 😭 she's one of the professional dancers i look up to along with koharu (tmi) anyway, thank you so much for sending this request! i have no idea who your dream bias is, but i hope you don't mind jaemin 🤍 he wrecked my bias list so hard 🥲 i hope you see this & let me know if you liked it ♡ a/n: slightly proofread. lowercase intended.
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wow. that was the only word you could utter ever since you landed in korea yesterday. everything was just so pretty in your eyes — the buildings, the road, the food, the people. just, everything.
and wow was also the first word you uttered as soon as you arrived in jamsil olympic stadium. 'big' would be an understatement. it was massive, or any other word that's definitely a lot bigger than 'big'.
"bestie, let's go." rino said, ushering you to get inside the back door with her. you snapped out from your daze and ran to catch up with her.
your relationship with rino didn't make that much sense to many people, as the majority expected you to be closer with your brother's wife and not your sister-in-law's older sister. you were close with your sister-in-law, of course, but rino just matched better with your younger energy. not to mention, you were both huge fans of kpop.
she was promoted as one of the concert directors for sm entertainment not too long ago, and as it was her first time to handle nct dream's concert (which was going to become one of sm ent's historic concerts ever, and in korea's largest stadium at that), she called you up to visit her in korea to support her & to watch the concert as well.
every kpop fan knew about nct, and you were no exception. despite knowing all of their units, casually listening to their title tracks, and knowing around half of the members' names (only because of reading articles about them that piqued your interest), you still refused to stan them because of their 'crazy, unlimited' concept. you swore to yourself that you will never ever become a part of their fandom.
rino knew about you avoiding to get to know nct better, and she wanted to change that. sponsoring your trip to korea and getting you to watch at least one of its units' concert to make you realize what the group is really made of was a part of her plan.
after greeting a couple of staff members, rino brought you backstage to personally meet nct dream. although you weren't a fan (yet), you were excited with the thought of meeting them. millions of fans would fight to be in your place right now. who are you to complain, right?
rino held onto your hand as she led you through the slightly dim areas backstage before finally arriving at a well-lit hall with some doors. based on the number of behind-the-scenes videos of kpop groups that you have watched, you safely assumed that nct dream is inside one of the rooms, probably lounging or doing whatever while waiting for their rehearsal to start.
before you knew it, rino began knocking on a door. your heart started beating really fast and your hands have gone cold as soon as a staff member opened the door.
"grandma's here!" haechan shouted in excitement as he ran towards rino. his voice was something you could easily recognize anywhere, even as a non-nctzen.
rino let go of your hand to greet haechan with a tight hug.
"oh? who's this lady, grandma?" haechan asked after seeing you standing behind rino. that was the time the members noticed your presence, too.
your were looking down on the floor that suddenly became interesting to you at that moment, when in reality, you just didn't know what to do after it dawned to you that you were now literally breathing the same air in one small room with nct dream.
rino let go of the hug and gently pulled you to stand beside her.
"boys, this is my brother-in-law's younger sister," she introduced. "and my bestie."
you heard the oohs and ahhs of the members and quickly looked at them to say hi. the members then introduced themselves (with haechan proudly introducing himself as rino's grandson), and asked you to sit down comfortably with them as rino left the room to take care of some things.
"oh my god!" chenle exclaimed as he covered his mouth dramatically. "i think i just found myself a new bestie."
although it had only been a few minutes since you sat down with them, the nervousness you felt when you stepped inside the room was all gone thanks to the boys who made an effort to make you feel comfortable in such a short amount of time.
you honestly didn't want to start assuming things, but you definitely caught jaemin frequently stealing glances your way. he kept on smiling at you as well, and just generally had the best reaction to whatever you said (right next to mark, who laughed at literally whatever you said).
"kids, let's go." one of their manager hyungs suddenly called, and the boys quickly stood up to go. you were quite unsure if you should go with the dreamies or just wait for rino to text you where to go.
you were sitting a bit anxiously on the couch, watching the boys get ready to leave the room when you saw a hand in front of you.
you looked up to see jaemin, flashing his billion-dollar smile at you.
"come on," he said, waiting for you to take his hand.
you looked up at him, then on his hand, feeling a bit flustered and confused at the same time.
you could see the other members and staff leaving the room one by one, but you were still sitting on the couch.
"jaemin-ah, hurry!" renjun shouted as he left the room.
"yeah, yeah, i know!" jaemin shouted back before looking at you again. "my arm's gonna fall off soon," he said, shaking his hand lightly in front of you.
seeing that your butt was glued on the couch for some reason, jaemin took your hand instead and gently pulled you up.
"let's go before renjun kicks my ass," he said, holding your hand tighter as the two of you left the room.
you were now sitting on one of the chairs close to the stage. though not the actual concert yet, it felt surreal that you were now watching nct dream perform in front of you.
it made you realize you were missing out on such an amazing group, that you made it your personal assignment to do some research on nct dream and listen to all of their songs once you get home.
during the entirety of the rehearsal, you could see jaemin looking at you. and this time, you were sure because each time he sang his parts or would dance near where you were seated, he would lock eyes with you. unashamedly.
(un)fortunately, you weren't the only one to notice that.
rino, as well as the other dreamies, couldn't contain the playful smile on her faces. they just found it so cute how you would blush and shyly look away from jaemin.
"amazing job today, kiddos!" rino said when the rehearsal came to an end. she quickly thanked the staff around her before running to where you were.
"how was it?"
"it was awesome! i'm looking forward to their concert." you answered, feeling so hyped up.
"hmm, that's great. and what about the members?" she asked, brows raised teasingly.
rino's question caught you off guard and all you could do was chuckle nervously. she gave you a knowing smile before hooking her arm with yours to go home, letting you off the hook just once.
you honestly felt a bit sad that you were unable to properly say good bye to the boys — to jaemin, your new-found crush, to be specific. you didn't get the chance to meet them again when they rushed backstage right after the last song.
after eating dinner, you went to the bathroom to brush your teeth. just then, your phone chimed, signaling a new text message.
you opened the text and choked on the foam of your toothpaste, "i don't want to sound like a creep, but your hand was really soft", it said.
another text from the same unknown number arrived.
"oh, it's nana. jaemin. teeheehee"
you were now coughing so much that rino rushed to the bathroom in panic.
"what's going on?! are you okay?!"
you waved your hands to tell her that you're alright. well, except for the fact that you have just received a text message from nct dream's na jaemin.
"j-jae...min..." you tried to say between coughs. rino looked at your now-red face, seeming to understand what just happened.
"oh, i see." she said with a knowing smile on her face for what seemed like the hundredth time that day. you looked up at her with a puzzled look on your face after you have slightly recovered.
"what do you mean by that?" you asked. rino chuckled.
"haechan asked for your phone number so he could give it to jaemin," she finally said. your body froze as rino laughed at your frozen state.
"i wasn't the only one who noticed the way jaemin looked at you during the rehearsal this afternoon,"
you still stood frozen.
"so the dreamies asked jaemin what he thinks about you, and he said he would like to get to know you better."
"oh..." that was the only thing you could say at the moment. everything just felt too much for you to digest, and rino understood, so she left you in the bathroom, giggling to herself.
you rubbed your eyes a few times before looking at your phone again, making sure that you weren't just imagining things. however, the texts from the unknown number were still there, waiting for a reply.
quickly gathering your courage, you finally sent a reply.
"hi, jaemin. uhm, it was nice meeting you."
not even a minute later, you received a reply from jaemin.
"i really thought you forgot about me already TT_TT anyway, sorry i had to get your number this way. you must have been surprised"
you smiled to yourself, thinking how cute he was. you made your way to the bedroom and lay on your bed as you saved jaemin's phone number as 'nana jaemin'
"no, not at all. it's all good :) don't worry"
"so uhm see you at the concert tomorrow?"
"of course, i will be there :)"
"and at the company dinner after?"
"uhm, i'm not sure if i can go since i'm not part of the staff, but i guess we'll see??? i'll ask rino"
"well then, regardless if that's the case or not, what do you think about going out for dinner with me this weekend? :)"
"sure, i'd love that :)"
- end.
requests are OPEN ♡
UPDATE: anon just requested a continuation 🤍 you may read it here.
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beautifulpersonpeach · 1 year ago
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Can you please speak your thoughts on the Fifty Fifty situation? I remember you saying they were putting out good music and now this huge chaotic lawsuit is going down seemingly out of nowhere.
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Ask 2: BPP have you heard about what’s going on with Fifty Fifty? I honestly thought their company was really competent with how they had been promoting them, but I guess there was a lot going on behind the scenes. I feel really bad for the girls and I hope everything works out, but the situation seems so messy. It also made me really think about how much I appreciate BigHit, because I can only imagine how wrong things could have gone for BTS if they had been with some of these other companies instead.
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Ask 3: What is up with kpop companies this year its like a shitshow one after another… wasnt the Pmega X group abuse this year, then theres SM doing fuckall to keep their legacy acts and now with fiftyfity… like is it usually this messy? Cuz i feel like before you had only 1 company being messy , each year. But now they decided to do it kne after another even simultaneously lmao cant decide if this year is a success for kpop with the multiple hits -im guessing nj will dominate again with their comeback- or the lowest of lows for the idols themselves
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Hi @jiminsthighsfr and Anons,
The short answer: yes, this is fairly normal for k-pop. A lot of companies are shady and mistreat/underpay their artists. A lot of people are unscrupulous. All the stereotypes about the k-pop industry didn't come out of thin air. It's more likely for a company to not pay their idols fairly than the other way around. In fact, this is what JTBC was banking on when they came out with the false lawsuit story for BTS in December 2019. By that point, nearly every major and minor agency had idols who had filed lawsuits alleging abuse and extreme coercion, except BigHit with BTS. So I can see why the executives at JTBC thought this was a situation of 'just write the story and the truth will come' - basically, assume that BTS was mistreated and underpaid like many idols and publish on that basis hoping that having the story out there will give the members courage to simply confirm what was 'fact', while banking on the fandom to believe the story right away (which was typical). But we both know that's not how things worked out, ARMYs were the last people to believe it and were asking for receipts because the fandom knew that despite the extremely rigorous lifestyles the boys had endured like most idols, by 2019 it was extremely clear BangPD valued each and every single one of them.
And for people asking for my view on the tangentially related discourse of JK getting his song 'Seven' sent to radio, my view is that I don't think this has changed. I think BangPD still fully values each and every member of BTS, and I don't think any member is being mistreated, abused, or grossly mismanaged. But BangPD is not their father, and his motivation to produce profit is more agnostic/cynical than a lot of ARMYs want to admit. But at the same time, you either trust BTS to handle their business as capable adults, or you don't. It's really that simple for me. More than anybody else, they know their own situation, and are certainly capable of handling themselves.
Anyway,
Like I said when I first mentioned Fifty Fifty, the group has been cashed up from the jump, with CEOs well established in the industry, despite deliberate messaging/omissions about the unusual financing / structure behind Fifty Fifty re: the formation and management of the group. Also, it's normal for players in the industry to try poaching a successful act (BangPD was approached shortly after BTS debuted to sell BTS, he refused), so it was only a matter of time before Fifty Fifty was approached, and Attakt's unusual structure was bound to cause friction. From an accounting POV, it's smart because it minimizes each company's tax outlay/payments, but from an M&A POV to secure IP, The Givers/Attrakt partnership has very obvious weaknesses, which Siahn and Fifty Fifty are capitalizing on. I have no idea how their case will turn out, but I doubt it will end Fifty Fifty. They still have potential so I hope it's channeled well regardless of the outcome of this mess.
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A couple of thoughts on the BigHit Music/BTS relationship and... that rumour!
First the rumour
So, let's get the rumour out of the way... [though I'll probably come back to it eventually].
Last month an anon directed me to a rumoured 2020 blind item, about two members, who hadn't extended their contract...
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This account is a known Taekook account. The comments/replies suggest the original poster of the blind doesn't exist and they posted this blind just before closing their account... but here's the thing why can't I find any reference to the original post. You're not telling me shit loads of Taekookers, hell OT7 and solo stans wouldn't have been all up in that shit if this blind was around in 2020. I never saw such a blind back then and I follow two big blind item websites (they have always intrigued me). This makes me think the post wasn't real. But perhaps there's a slither of truth in it...
Then on 11th Feb 2023, Crazy Days and Crazy Nights posted this...
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And in the comments, there is the prevailing theory that BigHit/HYBE is deliberately not promoting their (Tae and JK) solo project stuff as some sort of evidence to back this theory up. Despite the fact that BH doesn't promote work that they don't produce themselves. I have yet to see a tweet or Weverse announcement about RM's involvement in a K-Variety Show he's doing, or Hobi, Suga and Jimin's recent fashion brand deals. Why because those companies are more than capable of promoting their own work with the members themselves.
Tae's cooking show is currently being promoted by the broadcaster as per usual and JK's World Cup Single was for a different label so any promo would have been done by them. Also, if BH weren't supportive of these endeavours do you really think they would allow their staff to travel and work with the Tae and JK and and provide support on these projects? You knot
I also find it interesting that a blind item that is supposedly 2 1/2 years old is suddenly back again and linked to a recent company purchase and Blackpink. That just seems suspicious.
I'll leave that there for a bit...
Let's keep it on the down low...
Now let's look at HYBE and BigHit and why I think the boys might have more control than we currently see.
Earlier this week, in light of the whole HYBE/SM drama, I saw two TikToks from the same user that piqued my interest and how BTS might have more power than we think...
Now I, like many others, was under the assumption that HYBE had full control over BigHit, but after a little research, I've found that this TikTok is true and BigHit is a separate entity to HYBE itself...
This twitter thread from April 2021 (when Scooter Braun and Ithaca Holdings were purchased), is very insightful and all publicly available...
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So, in essence, when HYBE was in the process of purchasing Ithaca Holdings from Scooter Braun, Bang PD did something, he and the HYBE board (mostly made up of former BH Entertainment people) unlisted BigHit Music from the stock market and separated it off as private company. Still owned by HYBE but privately owned by them and independently operated and not affected by HYBE's dealings.
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Before I move on some context that's needed for later…
In 2018, BTS re-sign with BH
In 2020, we discover BTS's contract renewal will run from June 2020 to June 2024
October 2020 BH Goes public BTS get shares in the company
6 months later Big Entertainment splits in HYBE and BigHit Music.
By 2021 we learn they have extended their contract for the full 7 years to 2027.
2022 BTS go on break from group duties ahead of enlistment.
NOTE: I think Points 3 to 5 are very important to all of this....
(I hope we're all still here, lol)
Why do I think this is important and shows us why BH/HYBE is not out to get the boys?
Firstly, it shows that HYBE wanted BTS/BH to be protected in case anything happened to the rest of HYBE. This is pertinent considering the CDCN blind specifically mentions the purchase of the US company. How it's worded suggests that BTS profits paid for it and that the boys are in a slave contracts. If BH is sperate that suggests that their profits don't automatically go into HYBE's bottom line. Also, any idiot with a Google Degree can tell you in seconds that BH had one of the most progress profit sharing deals with its artists.
Additionally, we don't know who owns the shares in BH, we know that in March/April 2021, HYBE was the sole shareholder, what's to say that other entities are shareholders too... such as BTS.
Think about it, in 2020 HYBE/BH were trying to persuade BTS to do the USA thing, what if BTS who were not in a happy place with all the speculation of enlistment, plus covid, were close to saying no to an extension and a push into the USA. What if HYBE offered them something they could refuse, which would kill two birds...
What if BTS wasn't happy about BH becoming HYBE?
So why did BH not become HYBE in 2020 and waited until 2021? I wonder if the answer to this was BTS and their contract extension. Imagine this...
You're BTS and the company you've literally built, is about to go public and you as artists who were promised more control in your contract could potentially loose said control when the new company is formed. Add to this you've yet to officially extend your contract and said company want you to do something new and could benefit them massively (US market push & new ventures etc.).
Your BTS, what would you do?
Me I'd kick up a fuse until you made sure there were some provisions in place to protect your brand and your creative freedom.
Maybe, that's why BigHit didn't immediately become HYBE because BTS weren't fully onboard.
What would placate them?
Maybe making BH into a separate entity and giving the boys the control, they crave?
The would do two things, ease their minds about the USA push a little, as well as the change to HYBE.
However, this could happen straight away, and would take several months to implement, it's also possibly why the Scooter Braun detail didn't happen sooner. Prior to this happening, they were given share in HYBE, and I think during that six months they were given iron clad contract extensions that benefited them and BH (note not HYBE) greatly.
Another thing to consider... perhaps BTS are shareholders in BH Music the private company. All we know is originally when they private the company HYBE was the sole owner; once you're a private company you don't have to announce things about profits, stocks & share sales unless it's a takeover situation, unlike HYBE as public company.
I also think this private (and very possible) arrangement might be what led HYBE to purchasing stock in YG Plus because HYBE would get a slice of BTS revenue (from manufacturing/distribution costs that YG Plus generate) prior to BH/BTS getting their profits, because... what if, only a small portion of BH's actual profit can go into the HYBE's bottom line.
Anyway...
In conclusion, I think there was a slither of truth in the "original" blind item, but I wonder if it involved all the boys, perhaps led by the two (who we all believe to Taekook).
No, I don't think it was connected to their sexuality, but more likely their (BTS's) unease of the company they helped build going public and a possibly fear of being undermined by any new management, as well as the push into the USA.
The latest version of the blind, is most likely being stirred up by antis who want to isolate Taekook from the others (hence the constant HYBE don't promote their solo work, even though HYBE/BH don't do it for other members), making them out to be diva's who want more and more. Then use incorrect information in the process and therefore creating a blind that actually doesn't make factual sense.
The Blackpink thing? I have no idea.
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dredshirtroberts · 1 year ago
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Storytime
so last night around midnight my phone text message alert goes off.
it's important to note that I very rarely receive traditional text messages (despite my Text Alert Anxiety kicking back into high gear out of absolutely nowhere right before i told my parents to stop messaging me anymore unless it was something very important). I get a couple promotional ones from my weed store, and my phone company reminds me about my bill via SMS. That's generally it, unless my parents decide to remember me suddenly out of the blue, and again, I've told them to fuck all the way off so the only reason I should receive messages from them is if there is a major family update i need to be kept aware of.
The phone goes off four times very rapidly, which makes me concerned not just because of the phone anxiety but because that never happens. I get maybe one text from the weed store a week - up to twice a day if they have a correction on a promotion they sent out erroneously. The phone company already sent my alert that my bill for this month is ready and reminded me of my due date for paying it (all in one text! very efficient! I'll receive another one about 5 days before it's due just to make sure it gets paid on time, which i appreciate). I had no idea who would be texting me since everyone who knows my number and i speak to regularly would likely have attempted to send me a message on discord first, or otherwise wouldn't need to send a text message because they were in the house with me.
I check my phone - 4 new messages in a group chat between myself, my mother and my sister. Oh shit, it must be super serious then if she sent 4 messages very quickly at midnight when I specifically said she wasn't to contact me unless it was a major family update (implication being Emergency Situation).
I open the group chat.
Something about my parents is that ever since my sister and I moved out, they have begun caring for and speaking about their pet and inanimate objects as if they are People. Now the inanimate objects are specific with duties and also are related to their interests - my father's two new "sons" are his dog and his robot lawn mower both of whom have People Names.
So anyway their wine stopper who they have named a variant of "Bruce" for [a specific but i don't want to doxx myself] reason has been moved to sit astride the spigot on mom's boxed wine. This was so important that the "please do not contact me" message was ignored.
Admittedly it is entirely possible that my father did not communicate the stop-talking order to my mother since i sent it specifically to him but it addressed both of them. Unlikely but possible. I only say unlikely because this is the first time my mother has messaged both myself and my sister and did not sign off to us as "love you girls!" but instead changed it to a more gender neutral "Love you guys!". She's been doing the "Girls" thing since well before i came out but doubled down on it somehow afterwards.
It's also possibly relevant to know that approximately 6 hours beforehand i had finally gone onto my facebook and removed them from my friends because I realized that part of the reason I stopped posting on facebook regularly was because I didn't want them to know about major aspects of my life, and since they were major aspects of my life i couldn't share them on facebook but also that was all i had to share on facebook, so i just stopped. Probably a healthy thing but I'd very much like to feel as though I am the one in control over my social media experience and that includes giving me the option to share my life on a social media site that connects me with other members of my family who I do want to know these things about me. Because they care and support and love me, where my parents do not.
I will say it is VERY unlikely these two things are actually related as neither of my parents is on facebook often enough to notice these things immediately after they happen, but the coincidence was not lost on me. I am also aware that my sister does not, to my knowledge, know about me asking my parents to stop contacting me.
For now I will be ignoring the chat - i do not care about the wine stopper they love more than me, and i am offended that still the only reason she reaches out to me is because she vaguely remembers i exist when she's drunk enough to think moving her wine stopper to a new location is newsworthy. Should contact persist in this capacity, I will send her the exact message I sent my father - if it continues in the group chat I will likely reach out privately with this, but depending on how egregious this gets I will only hesitate a little before bringing this shit out onto main.
Because they're hiding it. They can't be seen to have failed so poorly with their first "little girl" *gagging noises* that "she" no longer wants to speak to them. They might be seen as bigots and they aren't bigots, some of the people they know are....sweet like I am. (my mother's favorite "euphamism" for effeminate men and other homosexual-adjacent folks) They just don't understand why I would want to be a guy, after all I'm so pretty etc. etc. (no compliments when I was trying very hard to be a girl, mind...).
And I am inclined to help them hide it - i don't want to air my dirty laundry in front of the whole family. I am against ruining people's reputations when it doesn't do anything but hurt them - and my parents are heinous but they are human beings and I would not want to humiliate them without due cause. it's the same way I handled the breakup with my big-e Ex. I lost a lot of friends because he had no qualms about dirtying my name, but in the end I'm better off for it because in the end if no one asks for my side of the story, they don't deserve to use it to come to their own conclusion about the situation. Folks picked sides then, folks will pick sides now. And I'm not inclined to being accused of libel or slander about my family simply because no one was there when it was happening, or that it was hidden from them in plain sight.
I'm not at that stage yet, so hopefully I will not have to go the nuclear route on blowing this shit up in order to get my parents to leave me alone.
but they shouldn't hide it - it'll hurt them in the long run. There are people they can talk to about how to deal with it better, and I want them to take advantage of that opportunity to grow and learn and work on themselves.
but they won't. They can't be seen to be less than perfect. So I will hold my cards to my chest, and should they get cocky, I won't be afraid to hit the big red button and throw the whole family into a tailspin.
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songwoongmink · 2 years ago
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2022 Top 10 Songs
No. 10
KEY - Gasoline
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Overall a good song with a more than perfect MV, but I disliked on my first listen and it took me a while to give it a second chance. Plus, I don't like the album itself, that is the physical item.
No. 9
SM Town - The Cure
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I know it's a very recent release, but it's, in my opinion, the second best SM Town Winter song. The only thing I don't enjoy is the TaeMark rap. I want to buy the album but the shipping fees and the difficulty to find the Kangta ver. makes it complicated.
No. 8
MAX CHANGMIN - Devil
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As always, Changmin never disappoints. I hesitated between Fever and this one, but Devil is so unique among this year releases, and showcases best how talented that man is. Sadly it isn't enough to be ranked higher.
No. 7
SNSD - FOREVER 1
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One of the most awaited comeback of the year, and it was so worth it. That song is mindless fun, with beautiful women singing, and a catchy chorus I can't help but to sing.
No. 6
BIGBANG - Still Life
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From its release up until, I think September, it was first. I was ecstatic when it'd be announced (for real), and it's an amazing song with so much artistry. But there were no promotions, nothing, and I can't really listen to it anymore, for some reason.
No. 5
Jackson Wang - Blow
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Like the No. 2 of this list, it was an unexpected... blow, so to speak. Mind you, I don't check any GOT7-related songs, I don't like them. I'll just make an exception for Jackson, because that one song is so hot and pleasant to listen to. Also, there should have been stages (another common point with No. 2)
No. 4
SUPER JUNIOR - Mango
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The mandatory suju song hehe. That one has everything : insane vocals, good styling, moments I scream over, and an overall sexyness I wasn't ready for. What else is there to say?
No. 3
KANGTA (feat Paloalto) - Love Song
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Not really a 2022 release, is it? Three years late, hm-hm, but I forgive him, it's great in all aspects. Too sad he didn't get to perform it though. The reason it's No. 3 is because, thanks to Kangta, I fell into a H.O.T rabbit hole (see No. 2) I still have to escape, and thanks to H.O.T, I bought a hi-fi stereo to listen to Resurrection I also bought.
No. 2
JANG WOOHYUK - ECHO
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That song took me by surprise. Despite being a single, I would have bought it, did it existed physical. That song makes me so emotionnal for a reason I can't explain, it's beautiful. Plus, the cut on his face is so hot.
Before going on No. 1, here are some honourable mentions : BoA's Forgive Me (the whole EP is a no-skip) ; TAEYEON's INVU (the whole album is also a no-skip) ; KIHYUN's RAIN (was in the ranking for a while, too) ; WayV's Phantom ; SM Town's Happier ; and finally, ATEEZ's Cyberpunk (aka, their best song, sadly I no longer actively listen to them and I hated Guerilla). Now onto the main event!
No. 1
RYEOWOOK - Hiding Words
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First, I'll say this : I was excited for that comeback, even had pre-ordered the EP. Then, the highlight medley and Bluebird happened, and I cried, and cancelled my pre-order. And still. Hiding Words is the best song to come out from a suju solo, title previously owned by The Little Prince. Between the MV, the lyrics, the concept, the high notes, the way Ryeowook sings, everything stands out as perfect. No wonder that man had been my second bias (and could be again, after the SM Town concert). The more I listen to Hiding Words, the more I fall in love. Bless him.
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fanofbirdsflying · 1 year ago
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sm entertainment is a bad managment company when it comes to exo.
this company has been relying on exo's fandom to carry ALL the promotion since kokobop (technically monster even).
this company releases albums quickly, gives them less then 7 music show apperances, less than a handful of variety (or radio) show appearances and expects fans to do everything.
in recent years it's become popular to show some of the recording bts of how the title tracks/album were recorded... has exo had that for obsession? or don't find the feeling? (hoping for cream soda...). exo and their producers do some actually interesting things with their songs, but we don't get to see that.
killing voice has become a great promo platform in recent years. exo went on there because fans asked for it.
exo is known for being a pretty group (vocals too)...when was the last time exo's faces were together for a magazine photoshoot?
sm doesn't understand that exo isn't as dead as they WANT them to be. they REFUSE to put exo out there and give them proper promotional cycles. they REFUSE to send them to variety shows to promote their music and the members. they give them 1 MAYBE 2 weeks of music shows to make fans shut up. they refuse to introduce exo to new audiences. there is only so much exo's old fandom can do in terms of streaming and buying albums. exols don't have the habits that other fandoms have of manipulating their own faves' numbers. if you don't make the effort to reach out to new audiences through variety shows, radio shows and online content, with barely any music show apperances, OTHER ppl/ppl who are NOT fans won't know about exo, their new song/album or their talent.
you might think it's stupid of me to want exo on music shows for a significant amount of time put it's not. the more you go on, the longer fans have sth to talk about. and maybe ppl who aren't fans will stumble upon their new performance while they were looking for sth else. (this isn't about the music, but there are instances of idols going viral for good styling (e.g. taeyeon lion heart), so even non musical things like this can do a lot.)
what's the point of of spending time on making an album if you don't go out there and promote it?
sm has the habit of releasing exo album's quickly so that they can go on an (asian) tour.
sm didn't really have much hope for exo in 2016 when they came out with their third album ex'act. sm thought (and made exo believe) their best days were over, despite exo outdoing themselves in terms of their personal best. and continued to do so with every following release.
sm actively holds them back by not properly managing them and planning schedules. i am aware that exo has individual schedules, but that's what the COMPANY is there for, to make it work somehow.
they also hold them back by not printing exo's album(s). sm, like many other companies, opens a preorder to roughly determine how much interest exists for an album, so that they have a rough number of how many copies to print. sm and exols tend to not really inflate exo's numbers. when exo released their obsession album, sm CANCELLED people's orders. to this day it is their lowest selling full album, because of sm not wanting to cater to exo (and exo's fandom). there is a DEMAND. people want to spend money on exo, but sm doesn't want that.
now, in case you haven't heard, sm has done the same with the exist album. they cancelled orders and don't want to meet demands of exo fans who want to buy exo's album and spend money on EXO. exo had over 1mio preorders, and refuses to meet demands, yet thus far (20230716) have no issues with nct dream and their 4mio copies of preorders (which have become a somewhat regular thing for bgs in the past few years, inflated numbers, to media-play with).
and you can't say it's because of sm's internal drama at the beginning of the year, because sm has been treating exo and their promotions like a joke for a long time.
sm does not like exo. sm doesn't want exo to be bigger than sm.
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Huh why is our last convo flagged as mature content 😅
I'm torn because EXO COMEBACK YAY but more money for SM? Very much NAAAAAAY and it's such a mess, but EXO RISE!
Armchairs when EXO and SKZ beat BTS: 🤬🖕🏻 FRAUD!!! Their outrage is so funny, nothing like good old fashioned Exol-s vs Armys battle!
The pre release is very nice and nostalgic, the vocals are vocalling! Baek cropping SM's logo in his IG story, idk if it was incidental, but I choose to believe he did it on purpose to be a little silly!
Not sure if I will see that Ferrari girl ever again, she has races to attend lmao
A lot of Shawols are feeling negative about the song description, I'm skeptical, but it's Shinee after all. Intense piano, something like the beginning of Advice maybe? This comeback is also bittersweet because of Jinki, but I'm still sooo looking forward to it. However...... 😭 https://twitter.com/pansymoons/status/1668272217904365574?t=lw0Cq8MzYXGdKBZl3gnJ3Q&s=19 - this combined with HARD I- are they for real ahdgaggsgagsgssfajshsh
Damn, how to be Hoshi?! https://twitter.com/hoshzone/status/1668567593085706240?t=v9rtKzMcXHxVPkY-9qjCiQ&s=19 and he followed them right after, I'm glad they allowed him to do it, after all the 5 in his IG username stands for Shinee and there's no other explanation
YES YES YES EXACTLY EVERYTHING YOU SAID ABOUT ATEEZ AND THEIR PHOTOSHOOTS. You know I have all their albums, I was either too blinded by their looks in the past or perhaps the photos were a bit better but now yeah I can see the lack of variety? I can't tell, but my god the shoots rely on their appearance only and sometimes the photos don't even look flattering :/ not to mention the whitewashing and air brushing. There's no depth in those photos. The inspiration may be there, but it's watered down. I have a lot to say about the technical aspects too, it pisses me off not only because I want better for Ateez and don't want KQ to milk fans and give them half assed concepts, but also as someone who dabbled into photography... so fucking annoying. There's so much to be done. The white outfits photos???? For what.... come to think, not only does Ateez lack great comeback photos, they barely have any magazine shoots? Very strange
Ok so Bouncy sounds fun, the preview doesn't really sound like an Ateez's song to me though, the dance looks like it may get popular on Tik Tok lmao. I wish they did something different, but maybe I won't dislike it, I was just hoping for actual singing, but I don't think that's the vibe they're going for right now lmao. It does sound like a summer banger, a good club song and Seonghwa is already eating it up! I'm just worried they're pushing the Hwa rapper agenda and won't give him a lot of singing lines, and look rapper Hwa is cool, but he has such a versatile voice!
Stray Kids' song left me speechless in a bad way at first, but... not to compare, but Skz can just pull off wacky shit, it's their brand at this point, so they sold it to me. Not my fave TT and they have better bsides, e.g. Topline with Tiger JK, but S Class isn't terrible. Hopefully I feel the same about Bouncy
THE NAKAMOTO YUTA YES! Maybe I'm back to being a Yuta girl now ajdhdhsgagsgaggaags I've always had Taeyong tunnel vision so it's hard to focus on anyone else, besides xenophobic SM doesn't give two shits about him, he needs to go jrock, he has the voice for it, instead he barely exhales on NCT's tracks JAIL. We actually told him we're looking forward to more jrock covers and perhaps an anime opening? I hope something good happens to him and EmbarrasSMENT actually promotes it. At this point he should join WayV, ignored, underrated... 😭😭😭😭 Anyway he was very kind and gentle and we made him laugh with our clown antics, so that's a win!
I'm so proud of Taeyong, he put his whole heart and Tyongussy into this album and it paid off despite SM not doing much for him, so much for being the company fave... and the fact antis were boycotting him? VILE. Yes, Mark was cheering so loudly it was cute! And Taeyong called Yuta and Taeil out for not attending his showcase, but then they eventually came <3 haven't seen much of Dream, but tbh I don't care about them, sorry 😅
Taeyong's photocards y'all will be mine... one day 🤧 where did SM get him from? The streets ahsghagshahshs pretty sure they lured him in with bread or some shit.....
Btw there's one scene in Bloodhounds that was shot at the same location as Skz's Back Door I was like, hold ooooon. Is it good?
You're watching anime illegally, so I'd suggest to look at animepisode.com! They have 10 episodes on there I believe. I mean black hair, blonde hair, pink hair... they're all Seonghwas anyway.
Taeyong is going the Kai's route and does challenges with so many people, both for his track and theirs <3 and https://twitter.com/taeoho/status/1668155919962714114?t=EFHbqllTpLsZtbFbv4kJEw&s=19
Both JYP and KQ and basically everyone else seem to be more relaxed about challenges now, so I hope to see more. The fact there's no Skz x Atz challenge yet is criminal... also LSF appeared on Aespa's channel?! Maybe Hybe is still trying to buy SM aksgdgsfahsgahshshsh
Ok but his mind! I know it's just a silly Tik Tok, but I'll never not admire his passion and dedication to details. He's so creative too, that's why I always want more for him, I know he's not greedy, but I just want him to have more opportunities 😭 https://twitter.com/hwalilac/status/1668188123984195585?t=nxxIDzwNPLbn_eGFEwKpvw&s=19
THESE TWO AGAIN MY GOD AND WHAT IF SEONGHWA..... https://twitter.com/TENsfeed/status/1668740420678090753?t=2sCKYa6AXtuNL022D_rQIg&s=19 - DV 💖
hello!!
Huh why is our last convo flagged as mature content 😅 /// I'm torn because EXO COMEBACK YAY but more money for SM? Very much NAAAAAAY and it's such a mess, but EXO RISE! /// Armchairs when EXO and SKZ beat BTS: 🤬🖕🏻 FRAUD!!! Their outrage is so funny, nothing like good old fashioned Exol-s vs Armys battle!
NO BC FHWKDHWK THIS IS THE SECOND TIME 😭😭😭 SOMEONES OUT FOR MY BLOG FBWNDBSJ more money to sm but if exo win the case,, they will get a sum hopefully the labor cooperation does their thing BUT EXO WE RISE !!!!!! NO IT REALLY IS SO VERY FUNNY BC THE STREAMING CULTURE AND EXOLS ARE JUST NOW LEARNING ABT IT AND TRYING IT OUT AND THE STREAMS ARE CRAZY SO IT GOT PPL MAD??? how are we gatekeeping streaming now 😭😭😭😭 also gotta make this comeback their biggest as a way of protest 🤚🏻u know 2016-2017 kpop is back when army v exols start pulling up 😭😭
The pre release is very nice and nostalgic, the vocals are vocalling! Baek cropping SM's logo in his IG story, idk if it was incidental, but I choose to believe he did it on purpose to be a little silly! /// Not sure if I will see that Ferrari girl ever again, she has races to attend lmao
it really is,,, i actually cried bc of the no autotune in their voice made me realize how kpop’s full of autotune but exo will always produce the best of their raw voices,, was discussing this with a friend rn with listening to atz’s cb and switching to exo give the ears something to be peaceful about 😭😭 NO BC I KNOW HE WAS LAUGHING DOING IT TOO but with the way his everything is being eyed upon,,, this is the least shady thing he can do bc otherwise when that mouth opens it drags esp after this??? drag them to court baeks,,, gotta attend ferarri races only for disappointment 😔😔 but at least seb will be on the track ✊🏻
A lot of Shawols are feeling negative about the song description, I'm skeptical, but it's Shinee after all. Intense piano, something like the beginning of Advice maybe? This comeback is also bittersweet because of Jinki, but I'm still sooo looking forward to it. However...... 😭 https://twitter.com/pansymoons/status/1668272217904365574?t=lw0Cq8MzYXGdKBZl3gnJ3Q&s=19  - this combined with HARD I- are they for real ahdgaggsgagsgssfajshsh
i mean yeah it’s shinee after all,, we’d get a good song either if not the tt then we know the bsides will ABSOLUTELY always carry,,, NO BC I TRIED TO FIGURE ALL OF THIS OUT??? HOW??? LIKE WHAT EVEN IS THIS SM 😭😭
Damn, how to be Hoshi?! https://twitter.com/hoshzone/status/1668567593085706240?t=v9rtKzMcXHxVPkY-9qjCiQ&s=19 and he followed them right after, I'm glad they allowed him to do it, after all the 5 in his IG username stands for Shinee and there's no other explanation
THIS IS SO WHOLESOMELY CUTE 😭😭😭 NO LITERALLY HOSHI THE MOST ACCOMPLISHED SHAWOL
YES YES YES EXACTLY EVERYTHING YOU SAID ABOUT ATEEZ AND THEIR PHOTOSHOOTS. You know I have all their albums, I was either too blinded by their looks in the past or perhaps the photos were a bit better but now yeah I can see the lack of variety? I can't tell, but my god the shoots rely on their appearance only and sometimes the photos don't even look flattering :/ not to mention the whitewashing and air brushing. There's no depth in those photos. The inspiration may be there, but it's watered down. I have a lot to say about the technical aspects too, it pisses me off not only because I want better for Ateez and don't want KQ to milk fans and give them half assed concepts, but also as someone who dabbled into photography... so fucking annoying. There's so much to be done. The white outfits photos???? For what.... come to think, not only does Ateez lack great comeback photos, they barely have any magazine shoots? Very strange
YES YES !!!!! it’s always the same studio,,, same backdrop, little to none accessories neutral tones,,, i also dabble into photography quite often so my first thought whenever i purchase albums is to see the photo books first bc i need them to be STUNNING my top3 are exo’s, nct’s sticker album but seoul city version the photography in it so sO IMPECCABLE to look at, the shine the colours the angles and the blurs and all??? ive been dying to purchase it,, the scenery is sTUNNING like look at these :::
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the difference between them is actually crazy,,, nEED a new photographer for atz + someone who dresses them accordingly to the backdrop— give us colour an outside background (like w diary),, do a kokobop photo scans colour scheme???? UR ABSOLUTELY CORRECT the depth we can get but won’t makes me mad, like how ty did for his album, black and white and his features carried him,, the shadows from his nose and his eye sets, pure artistry,, like those are photos id hang up as art,, have not seen the current album’s photobook but i won’t be surprised at it,, YEAH THE LACK OF MAGAZINE SHOOTS??? LIKE I SAW THIS ON PINTEREST AND WAS SCREAMING AT KQ ???? LIKE GET SHIT LIKE THIS IF U WANNA USE A WHITE BACK DROP GIVE US EDITORIALS???
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Ok so Bouncy sounds fun, the preview doesn't really sound like an Ateez's song to me though, the dance looks like it may get popular on Tik Tok lmao. I wish they did something different, but maybe I won't dislike it, I was just hoping for actual singing, but I don't think that's the vibe they're going for right now lmao. It does sound like a summer banger, a good club song and Seonghwa is already eating it up! I'm just worried they're pushing the Hwa rapper agenda and won't give him a lot of singing lines, and look rapper Hwa is cool, but he has such a versatile voice!
it does sound fun and it def is!!! def the best mv aesthetically the chorus is STUCK in my head 😭😭😭 listened to the album, sorry to say but it sounds like a second geurilla album,, few of my friends and i were discussing this and we wished they chose songs like how sm chooses for their group’s bsides,,, it sounds the same but it does sound good just wished for songs like treasure and utopia,, just raw voices, vocals and a dream.
im gonna let u review of it happen so i will comment then 😭😭
Stray Kids' song left me speechless in a bad way at first, but... not to compare, but Skz can just pull off wacky shit, it's their brand at this point, so they sold it to me. Not my fave TT and they have better bsides, e.g. Topline with Tiger JK, but S Class isn't terrible. Hopefully I feel the same about Bouncy
LMFAOOOO 😭😭😭 i will def check it out now that u mentioned a few, i did hear one where they kept whispering and it just didn’t click w me 😭😭
THE NAKAMOTO YUTA YES! Maybe I'm back to being a Yuta girl now ajdhdhsgagsgaggaags I've always had Taeyong tunnel vision so it's hard to focus on anyone else, besides xenophobic SM doesn't give two shits about him, he needs to go jrock, he has the voice for it, instead he barely exhales on NCT's tracks JAIL. We actually told him we're looking forward to more jrock covers and perhaps an anime opening? I hope something good happens to him and EmbarrasSMENT actually promotes it. At this point he should join WayV, ignored, underrated... 😭😭😭😭 Anyway he was very kind and gentle and we made him laugh with our clown antics, so that's a win!
NO BC IM ACTUALLY SCREAMING ????? ANON IF U DONT PHOTOCOPY THAT AUTOGRAPH AND SEND IT OVER ,,, ITS OVER 🔫 no ur so right, yuta has so much potential he can pull of villain so good + sm need to get him on the big screen like d.o,,, like he can hit big he’s really good at acting esp after the japanese movie he did! NO UR SO RIGHT HE BARELY BREATHES IN THOSE TRACKS LIKE I DONT EVEN KNOW HOW HE SOUNDS LIKE 😭😭😭😭 he should bc at least he can fill that one spot w his magnificent voice <33 AND U MADE HIM LAUGH
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I'm so proud of Taeyong, he put his whole heart and Tyongussy into this album and it paid off despite SM not doing much for him, so much for being the company fave... and the fact antis were boycotting him? VILE. Yes, Mark was cheering so loudly it was cute! And Taeyong called Yuta and Taeil out for not attending his showcase, but then they eventually came <3 haven't seen much of Dream, but tbh I don't care about them, sorry 😅
HE REALLY DID!!! that album screams him, from the photos to the entire concept vvv glad he took the initiative for it and got the copy rights at least ik the money will go to him 🧍🏻‍♀️,,, BENBFEKJDKW OH TO BE U AND ATTEND THESE EVENTS 😭😭😭
Taeyong's photocards y'all will be mine... one day 🤧 where did SM get him from? The streets ahsghagshahshs pretty sure they lured him in with bread or some shit..... /// Btw there's one scene in Bloodhounds that was shot at the same location as Skz's Back Door I was like, hold ooooon. Is it good?
LMFAOOOO taeyong photocards are like a new level of expensive which means at least u can get some from his album 😭😭 need his legendary one actually,, FBWKDHWKD IS IT GOOD??? LORD IM WATCHING FOR THAT PLOT BUT THAT DRAMA IS ACTUALLY CRAZY GOOD IM 100% SOLD everyone acts so well im so into it!
now that i think of it, these photo cards are like investment,,, i will sell mine in a few years to come for some moolah and ik that thv card will SELL
You're watching anime illegally, so I'd suggest to look at animepisode.com! They have 10 episodes on there I believe. I mean black hair, blonde hair, pink hair... they're all Seonghwas anyway.
ur my saviour omg i used to watch anime on watchdub.com back in the day and could not find a good place for now BUT IM SO GLAD THANK U THANK U 😭😭😭 all of them are seonghwas, no exception.
Taeyong is going the Kai's route and does challenges with so many people, both for his track and theirs <3 and https://twitter.com/taeoho/status/1668155919962714114?t=EFHbqllTpLsZtbFbv4kJEw&s=19
BUT WHEN DO WE GET MISTA ROVER X MR SHALALAA ?????????? TAEYONG GO VISIT KAIS 9 TO 5 AND GET HIM OUT
Both JYP and KQ and basically everyone else seem to be more relaxed about challenges now, so I hope to see more. The fact there's no Skz x Atz challenge yet is criminal... also LSF appeared on Aespa's channel?! Maybe Hybe is still trying to buy SM aksgdgsfahsgahshshsh
right!! it’s so nice to see everyone in the id is try somehow support each other and promo it, hoping atz also gets a lot!!! NO LITERALLY LIKE WE BETTER GET CHANGBIN DOING THAT CHALLENGE,,, hybe will forever try to buy it 😭😭😭
Ok but his mind! I know it's just a silly Tik Tok, but I'll never not admire his passion and dedication to details. He's so creative too, that's why I always want more for him, I know he's not greedy, but I just want him to have more opportunities 😭 https://twitter.com/hwalilac/status/1668188123984195585?t=nxxIDzwNPLbn_eGFEwKpvw&s=19
seonghwa director era is coming ??? ur right more of his opportunity to show his art !!!! i hope they get to go on running man this promo season, and lots more!
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THESE TWO AGAIN MY GOD AND WHAT IF SEONGHWA..... https://twitter.com/TENsfeed/status/1668740420678090753?t=2sCKYa6AXtuNL022D_rQIg&s=19 - DV 💖
WHY DOES TEN LOOK LIKE ROSÉ 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 SCREAMS AND NOW HAVE SEONGHWA BY TENS SIDE FBWNFHWK WHEN WHEN WHENNNN!!!!!!
loona to freedom ✊🏻
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AND??? LMFAOOOO IF I WAS JAEJOONG ID BURN IT & and if all sm artists to jaejoong’s company? he will always have the last laugh
AND EXCUSE ME???? PLAY MMMH RIGHT NOW
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everyforkedroad · 2 years ago
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KP twitter drama - a hot take 🔥
I don't know if I'm going to get myself blocked or whatever for this diatribe but I have to get this off my chest.
If you are not aware (lucky you), KP Twitter is up in arms over Be on Cloud's alleged refusal to send Mile and Apo to accept the Mekhala Awards, citing scheduling conflicts. Granted, fans worked hard to make sure MileApo won that award.
In addition, many accuse BoC of holding MileApo back, of keeping content from fans, and not promoting them properly, taking their spotlight and putting on the other cast members instead.
Honestly, I don't know what to think of those accusations, but the behavior that I'm seeing is beginning to smack of a disturbing sort of entitlement.
MileApo and the KP cast just performed a two-day concert for which they rehearsed non-stop for ten days. Some of the cast were recovering from Covid and, in the case of Apo, performing despite symptoms and having to quarantine afterward.
MileApo are also doing preproduction for their historical movie, coming out next year, and are preparing for multiple concert dates between now and Sept, all the while fulfilling their sponsorship duties towards contracted companies.
What troubles me is that these are the same folks who worry about MileApo being exploited by BoC, but then turn around and demand that they do fanservice events and produce content when they are already so busy. This also smacks of exploitation, this time by fans.
Maybe it's a cultural thing and I'm missing the point by a Mile. If so, I apologize for my ignorance.
I just wish people would calm down and not jump on every last outrage. It's always the same people stirring up trouble and they do it for the engagement, not because they actually care about the actors or the series. Worse, they don't see the actors as human beings because if they did, they wouldn't be so obnoxious about demanding things that is beyond what they owe their fans.
Twitter is not the end-all/be-all of celebrity promotion. MileApo's career success isn't going to depend on the cute pictures they post or silly videos where they talk ad nauseum about how much they love each other. Their success will depend on the quality of their projects, the excellence of their performances, and the number of people who consume their commercial projects, the majority of whom are not picketing on Twitter.
And finally, not to be a corporate apologist, but BoC did issue a statement discouraging fans from participating in pay-for-vote contests. If fans chose to do it anyway, they can't turn around and get angry when BoC refuses to play along. They want their actors to be treated as professionals. Professionals wait for awards that acknowledge their work and their art. Not their popularity.
I am just as thirsty for MileApo content as everyone else and I like going on Twitter (and IG) because it's where MileApo can be found. But folks doing these hate campaigns have to realize that actors have been known to abandon social media for just this reason. Someone like Mile (or his SM manager), who is so generous with his SM posting, might be inclined to change the way he interacts, while I could see Apo ditching altogether. So maybe people should calm down and appreciate the work they do instead of demanding things they are not entitled to, or expecting the company to do things they have already clarified that they are not doing.
Rant over
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lovingonrepeat · 4 years ago
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Paint It White // Liu Yangyang
Day three of my Kinktober // NCT 2020 Project
DAY 3: Yangyang + mirror sex → “You’d better be quiet or everyone’s going to know what a naughty little slut you are.”
Word count: 1.7k || Genre: smut
Warnings: femdom, mirror sex, semi public sex, edging, brat taming, punishment, begging, restraints, hair pulling, finger sucking, cum eating
This work is completely fictional. Feedback is welcome. Hate will be blocked. Thank you!
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Note to self, thank Taemin.
If Yangyang was honest, he would realize how this was all his fault. He wouldn't have tried to play with your thigh and get you hot and bothered while you were eating lunch with the WayV boys. He wouldn't have sent you those dirty texts, trying to get a rise from you while you were watching a movie in the dorm with everyone. He would've listened to you when you told him to stop trying to grind into you while you were in the crowded SM elevator. And he definitely wouldn't have grabbed your ass when he thought he saw a staff member looking at you.
He knew that you were getting irritated at his actions, but that's what he was counting on. He was looking for you to finally break, so when you snapped and dragged him into the empty practice room, locking the door behind you and looking at him with fire in your eyes, he couldn't stop the thrill that coursed straight through him.
It was all Yangyang's fault, and he loved it.
He thought he had everything figured out, but he wasn't expecting you to do this. You had managed to take a quick look at the schedule posted outside the practice rooms before choosing this one, specifically for the fact that Taemin had been the last one to use it. You went straight for the ties he'd been using for his Criminal promotions as soon as the door was locked, and you felt the way arousal coursed through you as you saw the wide eyed look he gave you.
And that's how Yangyang ended up here, clothes long gone and forced onto his knees with his hands tied behind his back. He's set up right in front of the mirror as you play with him, embarrassment shooting through him as you force him to watch himself.
He can't control his moans, desperate to be able to reach out and pull your bra and panties off so that he can see you better, and so that he wasn't the only one fully exposed like this. But he can't. All he can do is moan and shake and become all consumed by the way you're stroking him.
It's so much and not enough at the same time, the way you jerk him off fast just to slow down the instant he starts to get close. It's maddening, and he can't help but buck into your touch, hoping that maybe he can prevent you from depriving him of yet another high.
You notice the way that he can't seem to catch his breath, gulping on air as he silently prays that you'll have mercy on him.
You won't.
"Ready to give in yet?" You ask, not slowing down your movements as you build him up to another high he won't get to release.
He shakes his head rapidly, and his wise crack is cut off by a moan as you give him a couple extra hard pumps for that. When he finally composes himself enough to speak, his voice comes out ragged and broken.
"Go to hell."
You lean close, pulling on his bound wrists so he falls back into your chest a bit. You move your grip down to allow him to grab your hand between his fingers, and he holds onto it for dear life. It's a tender moment between your otherwise devastating actions, and it makes him feel safe, despite being vulnerable to you in the most intimate way possible.
When you speak, it's directly into his ear, ghosting along the shell and making his entire body shiver with the sweet tone of your voice saying something so sinful.
"Baby, you're already in hell."
He groans at your words, and at the way you just keep touching him. He's getting so close, and if would only keep going, maybe he can get there.
"You know," you tell him, starting to slow down as you notice the signs of his high. "This practice room is free the rest of the day, and the door's locked. I could do this forever."
You slow your hand almost completely, giving him hard and deliberate strokes to emphasize your point. He groans, frustration boiling over as he slumps forward. His head rests on the mirror, with his sweaty and too long hair hanging in his eyes. He can't get enough air, gasping and fogging up the mirror with his lust filled exhales. The sight is extremely erotic, and you can't stop the rush of arousal that courses through you.
It makes you want to wreck him even more.
You move your hand away from his wrists, bringing it up to tangle into his hair. You give his hair a tug, pulling his head up to stare right in his own eyes as he gasps from the pain. He cries out as he sees his frame in the reflection, with his disheveled hair and sweaty body and wild eyes and his dick that's so, so hard. His mouth hangs open, letting out loud, broken moans as your hand increases its pace again, building him up to yet another high he won't experience. His sounds echo off the walls of the dance studio, and you lean in so your chin rests on his shoulder.
“You’d better be quiet, Yangyang. Or everyone’s going to know what a naughty, little slut you are.”
He bites his lip hard as he whimpers, trying desperately to muffle his moans as your words send a shiver through him. But he's not able to hold his sounds back for long as he starts to get overwhelmed again.
"Shit, shit, shit," he sobs as he feels the pleasure start to overtake him again. You plant soft kisses onto the back of his shoulder as he shakes under you.
"Is there something you wanna say?" You ask, smirking against his skin as you feel him nod hard above you.
"Yes, yes, yes. Please, I'm sorry, I'm sorry."
You grin widens, and you give him a little nip on his back that makes his entire body jump. But when you start to slow your hand again, he panics.
"What? Why? I said sorry. Why? Please?"
"What are you sorry for, baby?"
He groans, beyond frustrated as you slow your movements to allow him enough clarity of mind to answer your question. He tries to drop his head and tear his eyes away from his own reflection, but your grip on his hair stops him, only serving to intensify his arousal with the way it causes his scalp to sting.
"Well?" You ask him.
"Uh," he starts. "I'm sorry for being a brat, and I'm sorry for not listening, and I'm sorry for taking $10 from you without asking first, but just please."
He's babbling at this point, and you're not even sure if he's aware of all the words coming out of his mouth. You chuckle, satisfied with his answer as you move to place a kiss on his temple.
"There you go, baby. That wasn't so hard."
You increase the speed of your pumps again, and he lets out a hiss that turns into a high pitched whimper as the pleasure starts to overtake him for what feels like the umpteenth time. You see the way his eyes look around frantically, not sure whether he should look at the way your hand is pumping him or the way you're looking at him with pure lust burning in your eyes or watch the way he's falling apart. The sight just makes everything so much more intense, and he can't fathom how has hasn't exploded yet, and decides that it's solely because you just know his body too, too well. His breathing picks up as moans fall involuntarily from his lips, echoing through the empty walls of the dance studio.
"You can let go now," you tell him, moving your hand from his hair to firmly grip his jaw and loving the way his eyes all but roll into the back of his head at your words. "Go ahead and paint the mirror white with your cum."
He orgasms with a shout, shaking and trembling through his orgasm as the hot white spurts of his release shoot onto the glass and your hand. It feels like it goes on forever for him, wave after wave of earth shattering pleasure after being kept on edge and denied for so long. He collapses into your body when he's finally done, resting his body weight on you as he kisses your neck. You bring your hand down to his tied ones again, allowing him to hold your clean hand in his as he comes back down to Earth.
"You okay?" You ask him, and your heart melts when he flashes you that thousand watt smile of his.
"More than okay," he replies. He's sleepy, but you can hear the tinge of satisfaction in his voice.
You reach forward, swiping your already dirty hand through the mess he made on the mirror. He starts to say something that you're sure is probably smug and will get him into trouble again, but you don't give him the chance, sticking your stained fingers into his pretty mouth.
He's a bit taken aback at the action, but obeys immediately, sucking around your fingers and humming contently to himself.
"By the way, I knew it was you that took that $10. I cannot believe you framed Hendery for it."
He laughs around your fingers, and you laugh too, placing a small kiss onto his nose as you do. When you take your fingers out of his mouth, you wrap your arms around him, gently guiding him to lay down with his arms still bound behind him. He sits up on his elbows, watching you curiously as you reach around to unclip your bra and pull your underwear off your body. You straddle his, but not before collecting more of his release onto your fingers for him to suck off. He groans around your fingers, and looks up at you with lust filled, obedient eyes.
"Now, we have this room for a couple more hours. So now it's your turn to make me feel good."
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dojae-huh · 1 year ago
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hi huh nim 👋
i'm a regular visitor of your blog, aside from the jaedo discussions, i actually come for your analysis and descriptions of any topic you post! it's fun reading your opinions since you take your time to see the details and elaborate about them, and i really appreciate all that ❤️
i really agree with what you said about how divided the fans are when it comes to important stuff, such as a member's solo. and it's humbling when you pointed out that even the leader's solo is not doing that well, and i agree. it's sad to see the reality of how shallow this fandom's support when it comes to each activity, i would say that nctzens are nct's biggest weakness (aside from being managed by sm lmao).
and if a member does any solo gigs, most of the fans tend to gatekeep and be wary of other subfandoms. just like how jh stans are mad at dy for appearing in his vlog. from a shipper standpoint i'm happy to see dy there but they have been band members for almost a decade now and it would be weird if they don't visit or mention each other when doing a similar schedule in the same country. it saddens me to see these subfandom wars each time when it's just a normal band member interaction most of the time.
can't wait for jh's new song and possibly an mv, with a movie coming up there's a lot to look forward to. and for dy, his ost "here with you" has been listed as alternative pop/rock genre so we're one step closer to dy rock solo 🎸 hehe
thanks for reading this far ❤️ stay safe and healthy 👋
Hi,
I'm eager to blame twitter as one of the problems (its algorythm, the way it makes bubbles, helps hate-twits to spread, etc), however, it seems some other fandoms manage to still be united despite it, so maybe we are just unlucky.
I only can ask fans to not be silent all the time and at least defend a translator when he/she is attacked for not transalting for everyone or translating for a non-bias member, as well as unit-fans who are attacked for not constantly proving his/her position as a sfan. In general, fans who get out of line should be told so. If not they themselves, their readers can be influenced. It is a common thing when a majority thinks they are a minority because they don't see the opinions they agree with being shared on socmed. (Just look at how popular "unpopular k-pop opinion" videos and threads are, people are happy to hear/see something expressing what they want to say themselves but are afraid of confrontation/cancelling/backlash).
Taeyong's solo did very well. He sold a lot of albums. Yes, he didn't win a music show, but that's often depends on many factors. Kick It barely won anything (1 Music Bank win) and it's the biggest 127's hit. I was talking about the fandom during the promotional period. It didn't feel like the whole fandom was celebrating.
I don't get this affinity to solo-stanning. I'm already seeing comments like "if DJJ won't perform on NCTNation, I won't watch it". Like?.. Those same three members are going to perform in other units?
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soofection · 6 years ago
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jenkai discourse in retrospection
 (long post)
to take a slightly more light hearted break from all the updates regarding the burning sun case, I propose a discourse of jxk in retrospection after gaining all the new knowledge exposed by the media recently
dont read if you dont want to, if you read please dont come attack me for posting what I want on my own blog 🥰
In no way is what I type facts, and I am NOT comparing burning sun case with jxk (jxk is so insignificant and jxk is not a criminal case) yet I will make references to what the media and companies are capable of doing as proven by the exposure from the b. sun case regarding similar behaviours.
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we now know that the kpop world is not what some once thought - an ideal fairytale land where idols/ the media never lie to us.
The truth:
We finally realize for sure that in korean ent. industry, sexual favours (in exchange for sponsors, promotion via media manipulation, basically fame and safety), offering prostitutes services... all in all using SEX is commonly used in return for connections / power / protection from the 'higher ups'.
why did jxk happen?
I propose: to cover yg x jni sex/sexual activities and jni has sponsors rumours (updated). After knowing yg is to a certain degree (personal assumption: large extent) involved in B.Sun and gangnam clubs, it makes sense to suspect that the jni rumour could be real. look up yg's past history, how he obtained his wife (emphasis, obtain). 12 years older yg 'fell in love' the moment he saw his wife as a second year middle school girl, recruited her at 16, ruined her career and married her. who knows how exactly yg treats his younger girl employees? Who is there to protect them?
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but its just a 'groundless' rumour why was yg desperate?
to propose reasons: 1) it could be real, if so he HAS to camouflage it before it blows up further. 2) even if its not real, he didnt want to put bp's and his own name's reputation at stakes since bp is his most money earning group right now 3) if he doesnt make a deal with dispatch, who ofc are capable of digging deeper and they hate yg (proven by their ability to obtain kkt chats and exposing b.sun evidences) to supply them a fake scandal to cover ygxjni... dispatch WILL expose him. (also keep in mind jni has other sponsor rumour that might or not be true). and 4) - suggested by anon: yg could be taking precautions before b.sun scandal blows up. As we know b.sun revolves around sex crimes, Yg must get rid of the 'boss had sex with employee' label before b.sun blows up. Or else he will get dragged, it would be like adding oil on fire.
this theory is reinforced by allshitpop stating a media outlet discriminately announced 'the yg x jni rumour was false.' why purposefully mention it when no one asked?
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but why ji?
main reason: hes an artist from sm. Yg desperately needed a scandal impacting enough to satisfy dispatch (releasing small unconvincing sandals will discredit dispatch's liability and reputation. ) But what to do when none of yg's male artists are popular enough to create a fuss nor any male groups's careers mature and stable enough to withstand the scandal pressure from the general public? the obvious solution is ofc to beg other big companies - sm or bighxt.
Most popular boy groups atm is still btx and ekso. honestly yg wouldve prefered btx due to their crazy fame, and jni will be their first dating scandal... the reactions would be DRAMATIC. yet in contrast to ekso, btx didnt really need to take that risk in hopes for more popularity. (rmb there would always be adverse effects when being involved in a dating scandal despite positive reactions and large no. of supporters). Also, even if btx has any scandals to cover, bighxt's recent merge with cj-enm (described as 'a powerhouse' aka very huge powerful company) means btx's any potential scandals can be taken care of for now. so that leaves ekso.
Who in ekso fits ji's image the most?
(hence will recieve 'positive' reactions and make them more aesthetically believable. without a doubt, its ji and his on going promoted sex appeal.) Reasons for ji and not other members: 1. theres no harm in giving him a beard (personal belief, ignore point 1. if you think homosexuality/kaisoo pairing isn't plausible) 2. to raise his popularity for his potential upcoming solo. 3. if someone who was involved in dating scandal before came up again, they probably predicts the pairing to be more positively recieved --> more supportors and a more hyped response from the public.
but none of that happened, the scandal was managed poorly. The paris evidence was made in a rush (dates didnt match) park pictures were too ambiguous (again dates and time didnt match), even when dispatch posted a pic of ji in a carpark supposedly came back from hawaii to give jni presents after landing - we learned from ji's own ig live that the day he wore the outfit in the photo, he had already returned to korea a few days ago, was around town shopping and went no where near the airport. Besides these failed attempts there was absolutely no other proof that jxk is real.
why was it poorly managed?
bc this is a rare collab between two big rival companies. Yg was the one begging at the start yet sm wasnt able to take full control of this scandal. Conflicts and disagreements upon makng many decisions were highly likely to occur between these two rivals.
The break up
a lot of fans were shocked when jxk broke up just after 25 days. (brand new record). what else is weird?
sm personally confirmed jxk broke up abruptly. Usually when couples break up, fan rumours start to float around first. But not this time, no rumours surfaced yet sm all of a sudden definitively stated that jxk broke up. Back then I already predicted it maybe because yg or bp got into trouble hence sm wanted to distance themselves as far as possible. I still stand by that idea.
Sm must get away from yg and b.sun case for the sake of theirs/ekso's reputation. sm def dont want to be dragged into the mess. Remember, sm as a huge company themselves def have their own dirt to hide, getting dragged means huge consequences if the investigators target them.
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so why did sm agree in the first place? I assume its bc altho sm knew that yg had dirt to hide, they did not know it was something as serious, severe and big as b.sun case / tax evading case. Therefore, what are the coincidences that sm announced breakup shortly before dispatch sparked reinvestigation into b.sun by posting crucial evidences? (the first chats)
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its highly possible that dispatch warned sm, (which makes them sound like the good guys but no. remember sm is dispatch's source of money and partnered with them many times. b.sun indeed aint directly related to sm, (as for now) dispatch has no reason to ruin sm) Or, sm could have found out through other sources that b.sun case will blow up soon. they quickly cut their collab with yg early, and announced break up probably without telling yg first. (since telling them possibly means giving dispatch away).
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this also suggests that dispatch hates yg but anyway.
The benefits of ji
Comparing the two, jni seems to be the one who gained more from the scandal. She got most of media and the public's attention. there is an explanation for this - shes the 'rookier' one, and the trendier one out if the two since bp is still rising when ekso has reached their plateau. However, ji did gain his own lesser share of attention (indicated by the gained followers on his ig).
I have always said that when idols agree to be involved in a scandal, they are likely to get a 'reward.' but now thinking about it, agreeing to scandals is part of ji's contract, rewards are bonus but not obligations. Besides, the scandal itself supposedly helps ji gain popularity for solo and gains a beard, sm didnt NEED to give him more bonus. Often when idols get more modelling jobs / solo etc after scandals is bc sm uses the risen populairty from scandal as an opportunity to maximise profit by giving them more jobs, it might not be bc sm wants 'pamper' them.
Plan cut short
unfortunately for ji who is not getting his solo soon, the jxk plan flopped due to poor management, and was cut short due to b.sun case. The scandal did not fulfill what it was supposed to do and ended prematurely . Followed by the apparent troubles in sm negotiating contract terms with ekso, (delayed ekso schedules),chxn suddenly getting a solo, and the blowing up of b.sun case, ji might have missed his chance again. Or hes simply still preparing.
to summarize i want to clarify a few things.
- none of these are facts, but an overall picture forming one huge speculation.
- I dont try to defame bp or shame them. i also am not trying to state that girl artists def had sex with the hihgher ups. b.sun has shown us that men always have more power over women, and they rarely get protection.
- I want people to realize the dark side of kpop. The kpop industry is full of conspiracies, media manipulation and lies. What you see on tv is not who your idols are portrayed to be on camera. Don't impose your ideal vision on them and hurt others when reality suggests otherwise.
side note: this theory conveyed reinforcement to statements I've made before
- conspiracies are real and true. Look at all the dark and shady events involved in b.sun case
- media play, mass manipulation exist and are common practice.
- dispatch and sm collab and are partners on a case by case basis.
- idols lie on interviews all the time, their tv persona is different from the real them.
- companies offer protection for their idols
- it is indeed common practice to use one scandal to cover another
ANYTHING can happen in the world of the k ent industry. dont lightly dismiss any possibilities. We must analyse the sum of the situations - the full picture of any events before believing anything we are told.
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ajw720 · 6 years ago
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I don't agree with all the things you post, there are some things we disagree on but there isn't anything that has been more true than the fact that Darren gets used by so many people. Darren is a SWEETHEART, he is kind to anyone, i remember someone saying he's like a puppy, if you smile at him long enough he'll think you're friends so it hurts a lot to see so many people and so many FRIENDS use him for his fame. This needs to end soon cause I just want him at his happiest all the time.
Anon, i have said to several people within the past few days, if i was not watching this with my very own eyes, i would never in a million years think this was true.  It is INSANE the number of people that have willingly enabled this either to promote their careers or for kick backs from a number of people including M’s family, RR, and F/ox.
And what we have now are some truly pathetic people that are shamelessly promoting an absolute nobody so they will get a few more listeners or viewers or clicks on their SM pages. To the point that they are excessively kissing her ask and treating her like the queen she pretends to be but absolutely is not.
The only good think I can say, while not always true, at this time, D has his eyes wide open. M must be promoted and he is doing everything in his power to make sure that happens, and it is not an easy feat considering she has NO CAREER and NO AMBITION.  So essentially they are calling her “writer, director, producer, musician” despite her complete failure, despite numerous opportunities, to successfully launch a career in any one of those four areas. D himself is promoting that ridiculous bar more than I have seen him promote ANYTHING in his career, it is constant and all the time. And he is using these shameless idiots that have no concern for what is right or good to help him promote her because that is what her contract dictates and he got majorly burned and he clearly not allowing it to happen again. 
So yes, there are some that do not gain anything from this and are just trying to help D. But the majority, like SK/Significant Others (that makes me irritate as they were legitimately his friends),J/ulie J/ames, Ch/arlene, her useless friends F/ox, L/ulu, & All/i, Jo/di (though honestly I think she may actually be drinking the Kool Aide), the woman from R/oyalties now, are all using D to promote themselves despite the fact that this is an incredibly unhealthy situation that he does not want to be in. And most of them know it and don’t care.
But make no mistake, D knows, he was naive when he was younger, but it has been along time since I think he has blindly trusted anyone.  Always remember, it may not always seem like it, but D is plotting and planning everyday to do as required and he does have some amazing advocates who are his support system helping him every step of the way.
Truly hoping he is tying up those loose ends that he mentioned this year so he can start fresh as soon as possible.
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swallowedthestars · 2 years ago
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were you more into exo k or exo m?
loooolll I was much more interested in M. K has a lot of really standout talents but I thought M meshed as a team better and felt they were a little more interesting to watch/listen to. i was also a rlly big tao fan
exo rant under cut
honestly i know a lot of kfans view them as "traitors" but aside from kris i dont think any of the chinese members wanted to leave or took that decision lightly (i mean we all remember taos giant meltdown over kris and despite what sm said it was apparent that luhan had talked to the members WELL in advance and out of the 3 had the cleanest break). tao was visibly injured all the time and luhan mentioned he was getting all his requests for leave denied. also being away from home is hard. i dont think wanting to be somewhere where you know you'll be treated better and have more control over your own schedule is crime (I also think its kind of ironic that post thaad lay is in a very similar situation as all the chinese members, basically a solo artist whos being managed by sm).
while i dont think the K members were necessarily getting treated tons better, it was kind of obvs that the chinese members were getting the rawer end of the deal? while the whole group was marketed at 2 markets, you have one half that gets to largely focus on promoting in one market and another half your group that is carrying a lot of the burden of straddling two markets (I think its telling all the chinese members were bilingual but none of the korean members had even basic mandarin fluency) which probably contributed to how exhausted a lot of them ended up. and it was obvious that K had more invested into their marketing and promotions. looking at the lyrics of exo K vs M its sometimes obvious that M had songs that were mediocrely translated versions of the korean ones (SM has now corrected this by hiring decent songwriters for WayV so the lyrics dont sometimes sound dogshit so even they realized that was a mistake on their part).
i mean to be fair exos marketing strat DID work, at their peak they were ridiculously popular in both markets and all of exo and former exo are still very popular in china, but it also makes sense to me that the C members were not content with their situation and I think the K members had a lot more obvious incentive to stay
my interest in exo dropped off a lot after the exodus unfortunately (lol). i am just not as interested in any of the former exos solo music and i don't really watch dramas so I dont see any of the stuff any of the exos and former exos have acted in either :( i do kind of miss ot12 but I think all the members are doing very well for themselves these days (except one, lol) so I think alls well that ends well
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normonce · 8 years ago
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Long just enough to interact with fans and keep a presence on sm. I want to hear mani's thoughts and stuff from her. Hopefully my ask don't sound wrong I have no I'll feeling towards her parents it's just she's turning 21 some Independence would be nice even though Mani wants them around.
(part II) A lot of people misinterpret her inactivity on sm as complete avoidance, when I don’t think that’s the case. She’s busy and is no longer a teen in need of entertainment or even online companionship. Normani’s parents are a big part of her life, her mother especially. Her mom was gone alot when she was younger due to her job as a flight attendant, so I’m sure N enjoys her mother’s availability. We should probably be thanking her for keeping our girl sane but for also taking pictures and videos of her, for us (before Blair became her personal photographer on tour her mother was there. All those snaps of her performing on stage had to be taken by someone). If Normani wanted to tell us how she “really felt” about certain situations she would. She doesn’t on social media for a reason. In reality she uses it as a marketing tool now, as a reminder that she’s doing x, y, & z and that you should check (i.e. her affinity to rt certain things rather than tweet a link herself). The only time she even participates in #AskNormani’s nowadays is when it’s sponsored by some 3rd party like a magazine who is promoting an interview of hers or a cover issue she’s on. It makes sense for her to do it that way and that way only when you consider that the 3rd party org. is generally the one who pre-screens the questions and gives them to her thereafter. Imagine getting thousands of random questions daily, with a handful of them being disrespect and unnecessary (think about the number of tweets you see directed at her that disgustingly explicit or racist like suck my …, eat a …,  i wanna lick your…… you get the point.) She can say I only want to answer questions about my future endeavors, the sound of the new album, and any Beyoncé related questions; and I will not answer questions about ole girl, my momma, and who I am dating. I don’t get anywhere near as many questions as she gets on the daily but I could understand not wanting to entertain questions if even for a brief amount of time.
People get worked up over something as irrelevant as likes and follows, imagine what a real statement/reply would do. I’ve said this countless times, Normani is scrutinized to a higher degree. It sucks but its true. We know what can happen when her words are taken out of context, she’s probably trying her darnedest to prevent a battle of the fans.
She’s guarded, she can’t give us everything. We wanted more, she’s posting pictures and videos fairly often now. We wanted to hear her voice, she’s committed to doing promotional interviews outside of the show and after she performs, and she willingly promotes the group always. We wanted to know her thoughts, she agreed to write a weekly blog post about her dwts journey. She has autonomy over her life despite what everyone likes to believe. She’s not some stage kid living out her parents’ dreams deferred. She’s the one who wanted this, she’s in control even if its not what we want. I think we all have a problem with projecting our desires on our faves. Do I want to know more of her deepest thoughts? Yeah. Do I want her to stop retweeting randoms who incorrectly utilize aave vying for her attention only for rts? Absolutely. Do I want her to be more of a socialite with established celebs and not just her friends from around the way? Sometimes. Do I want her to change who she is to accomedate me? I shouldn’t. I completely understand what you’re saying and where you’re coming from anon; however, I understand her hesitancy and evasion.
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